Time  Nick        Message
01:18 myds        hi
01:19 myds        i'm trying to upgrade databse scema it throws error unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 345. unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 345. unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 345. unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 345. unab
01:20 myds        please help
01:21 myds        is anyone there?
01:24 m24d        hi
01:24 wahanui     hey, m24d
01:25 m24d        having problem uprade to 3.20
01:25 m24d        can you help me please
01:26 m24d        while upgrade database schema
01:26 m24d        error - unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 345
01:27 rangi       what command are you running when that occurs?
01:28 m24d        koha-upgrade-schema library
01:28 rangi       as sudo?
01:29 m24d        yes
01:29 rangi       and library is the name of your instance that you made with koha-create right?
01:29 m24d        got that
01:30 rangi       because i get that error when i use the wrong name
01:30 rangi       what does
01:30 rangi       sudo koha-list
01:30 rangi       tell you
01:30 m24d        thankx buddy
01:52 m24d        how much time it would be take to yupgrade schema
01:54 m24         how much time it would be take to upgrade database schema?
01:58 rangi       depends what version you are coming from, how big the db is, etc
01:59 Koha-abh    got some errors
01:59 Koha-abh    Your database has users with duplicate user logins. Please have your administrator deduplicate your user logins.
02:00 rangi       yep, you'll have to get into the db and deduplicate them
02:00 Koha-abh    Afterward, your Koha administrator should execute the following database query: ALTER TABLE borrowers DROP INDEX userid, ADD UNIQUE userid (userid)
02:00 rangi       and then run that
02:02 Koha-abh    can u please tell me , which tools i need to use to deduplicate entries
02:03 rangi       mysql
02:04 Koha-abh    and another error is
02:04 Koha-abh    Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client) <b>Please check each of your frameworks to ensure your non-public item notes are mapped to items.itemnotes_nonpublic. After doing so please have your administrator run misc/batchRebuildItemsTables.pl </b>)
02:04 Koha-abh    ok
02:05 Koha-abh    what is second entry
02:05 Koha-abh    error?
02:06 rangi       exactly what it says, I dont think I can explain it more, you need to check all your frameworks
02:06 rangi       then run that that command
02:08 Koha-abh    i'm really sorry for iterupting you
02:09 Koha-abh    but what is framework ?
02:09 wahanui     i heard framework was gone.
02:09 rangi       ahh you'll want to look at the manual for that
02:09 rangi       2 secs
02:09 Koha-abh    ok
02:10 rangi       http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/master/en/html-desktop/#marcbibframeworks
02:10 Koha-abh    got that
02:45 tcohen      hi fellows
02:45 rangi       hi tcohen
02:45 tcohen      hey rangi
02:47 tcohen      rangi: i asked eythian maybe we could substitute the u12+maria node with a jessie+maria?
02:47 tcohen      what do u think?
02:47 wahanui     do u think is ok to set a cookie name marcdocs_borrowernumber true or false?
03:13 dcook       Hmm... Bugzilla thinks I'm suspicious...
03:14 rangi       tcohen: sounds good to me
03:15 dcook       Ahh, looks like one patch was missing a description..
03:16 tcohen      hi dcook
03:16 dcook       heya tcohen :)
03:16 dcook       How's life treating you?
03:17 tcohen      I prefer not to complain in public :-D
03:17 dcook       hehe
03:17 dcook       Wise move ;)
03:22 tcohen      i'm doing great, trying to have the plack integration tested for the release
03:23 tcohen      not enough feedback yet, but lots of bugfixes pushed, same for enhancements, so cool
04:18 dcook       @later tell tcohen That's cool :). I keep meaning to do a Plack instance here on a non-Debian platform...
04:18 huginn      dcook: The operation succeeded.
04:19 dcook       Huzzah. First iteration of the OAI-PMH code is uploaded to Bugzilla :)
04:19 * dcook     wants all the feedback from all the people
04:21 wizzyrea    neat! what's the bug number?
04:21 dcook       bug 10662 I think
04:21 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P1 - high, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
04:21 dcook       :D
04:21 dcook       I don't know why that says high..
04:22 * dcook     fixes that
04:22 dcook       I think it's a bit like Frankenstein's monster, since I first started with the idea 2 years ago
04:23 dcook       And I'm not 100% sure what web users would need to do, but I think the core functionality is there
04:24 dcook       Still not 100% sure about the import mechanism but I think it makes about as much sense as it can
04:24 * dcook     would love for someone to prove him wrong, and to use their idea :p
04:25 dcook       Someone asked me recently if I was precious about my code, and I was saying that I have no problem with people pointing out problems, especially if they have solutions
05:59 dcook       No eythian until the 16th? :(
05:59 dcook       Err 17th
06:29 reiveune    hello
06:40 * magnuse   waves
06:46 magnuse     dcook++ for submitting the oai-pmh harvester
06:48 dcook       :)
06:48 dcook       thanks magnuse
06:48 dcook       (also hey reiveune)
06:48 magnuse     magnuse-- for not having time to test it
06:48 huginn      magnuse: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
06:48 reiveune    :)
06:48 dcook       I'm sure it has lots of problems, but hopefully people can provide feedback
06:48 dcook       I'm sure Andreas and his people will at the very least, which is good
06:48 dcook       And I think Viktor and some folks in France might too
06:49 dcook       Thanks for all your encouragement over the years with it, magnuse. It's helped a lot!
07:00 alex_a      bonjour
07:00 wahanui     hi, alex_a
07:04 magnuse     dcook: my pleasure!
07:06 dcook       :D
07:06 dcook       On that note, I'm going to head home and make dinner for my wife
07:06 dcook       laters!
07:09 drojf       morning #koha
07:10 drojf       dcook++
07:10 cait        morning drojf
07:10 cait        yeah, cool development :)
07:10 drojf       hi cait
07:15 magnuse     moin drojf und cait
07:15 cait        moin magnuse
07:17 drojf       hei magnuse
07:41 * andreashm waves
07:41 * ashimema  claps
07:41 andreashm   woho, OAI-PMH harvester!
07:41 andreashm   bug 10662
07:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
07:41 andreashm   dcook++
07:42 cait        morning ashimema
07:42 cait        morning andreashm :)
07:43 andreashm   morning cait
07:43 cait        i hear 'cookies' from the kitchen
07:43 cait        brb
07:53 gaetan_B    hello
07:53 andreashm   hi gaetan!
07:54 magnuse     bonjour gaetan_B
07:54 * magnuse   wishes the oai-pmh harvester good speed through qa
07:55 * andreashm too
07:57 andreashm   I would like to start looking at it right away, but is currently busy with considering holds (again)
07:59 ashimema    dcook++
07:59 andreashm   anyone here have experience with multiple branches, where holds are limited per branch? (i.e., not send holds between libraries/branches... but also not limiting patrons to any one branch)
08:01 andreashm   Also, it is possible to place several item level holds for a patron somehow? It is not permitted in the staff interface, but maybe using some API/endpoint? (ILS-DI or SIP2 perhaps?)
08:03 magnuse     isn't there a bug about that?
08:03 andreashm   I havent found one. But guess I should go back to bugzilla and check again
08:04 magnuse     bug 4249?
08:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't place multiple holds if one record has no holdable items (staff)
08:04 magnuse     bug 14695 was the one i was thinking about
08:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14695 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, ASSIGNED , Add ability to place multiple item holds on a given record per patron
08:05 andreashm   thanks
08:05 magnuse     bug 7717
08:05 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7717 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Multiple Identical Holds
08:05 magnuse     not sure if that might be a duplicate
08:05 magnuse     bug 7710
08:05 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , multiple holds per title
08:06 andreashm   oh, there was a lot of them
08:06 andreashm   magnuse++
08:06 andreashm   my bugzilla-fu is low
08:06 magnuse     yeah, i have no idea how thay relate to each other...
08:07 andreashm   Most seem old.
08:07 magnuse     yup
08:07 magnuse     except 14695
08:07 andreashm   14695 seems the most recent - a restart.
08:08 andreashm   exactly
08:08 magnuse     7710 is in discussion
08:08 magnuse     if some look like duplicates, feel free to mark them as such
08:10 andreashm   also bug 12085
08:10 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12085 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, In Discussion , Allow staff to place multiple reserves for the same patron
08:11 andreashm   yeah, 7710 seems kind of alive, stuck in discussion
08:14 andreashm   unsure how 7710 and 14695 relate to each other.
08:17 cait        yeah it hink those are duplicates
08:17 cait        not sure how it got forgotten
08:17 cait        :)
08:18 cait        if it's ar estart, maybe we should link them and close the old one?
08:20 andreashm   probably
08:20 wahanui     probably is not, but i do not know another way
08:22 andreashm   cait: you mentioned that I should look at branch transfer limits to possible limit holds to a branch. but I can't see that they affect holds... just transfers in general. or am I mistaken?
08:23 cait        hm i think they should also affect where you can return an item
08:23 cait        we shoudl try to summon khall later... he module maintains holds... might have ideas :)
08:26 andreashm   sounds like a good idea
08:26 magnuse     wahanui: forget probably
08:26 wahanui     magnuse: I forgot probably
08:32 nlegrand    hey #koha
08:33 cait        andreashm: i am looking in our ticket system... i think i have alibrary that doesn't allow sending books to each other
08:33 andreashm   cait: oh, interesting!
08:33 wahanui     i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
08:33 andreashm   damn you wahanui! =)
08:34 andreashm   cait: I would be very interested to hear more about their set-up
08:34 cait        hm but might be int works for them because it's bound to the students home library, will see
08:34 andreashm   yeah, that could be it of course.
08:35 andreashm   (And we also want to continue to tranfser books between libraries... but only for returns, not holds going out)
08:35 cait        they have the tranport rules turned on
08:35 cait        and only a - a is checked
08:35 cait        ah
08:36 cait        hm for the itemtypes
08:36 andreashm   ours seem to be a complicated set-up.
08:36 cait        they have set 'from home library'
08:37 cait        but this seems to mix in the home library of the patron
08:37 cait        and return policy is 'item returns home'
08:37 cait        holds are always complicated
08:37 cait        whatever the system it seems
08:38 cait        i wonder if you can influence the holds policy by itemtype
08:38 cait        with one of the system preferences
08:38 andreashm   I was wondering that too.
08:38 cait        HomeOrHoldingBranch
08:38 wahanui     rumour has it HomeOrHoldingBranch is there to tell which of the two fields of items homebranch or holdingbranch is to be considered in circulation
08:38 andreashm   I thought you could, but haven't found anything.
08:38 cait        and circcontrol
08:38 wahanui     hmmm... circcontrol is set to...
08:40 cait        hm ok, wht you want to do is that they can place holds in any branch
08:40 cait        but the pickup branch is the home branch of the item (no transports)
08:40 cait        right?
08:40 andreashm   homeorholdingbranch is set to "library the item is from" currently
08:40 cait        and then they can return it anywhere and it will be sent back home
08:40 andreashm   cait: yup
08:41 cait        not that unusual really, i think it shoudl work somehow. hm.
08:41 andreashm   so any holds placed on library A doesn't care about available items/holds on items (from the same bib) at library B
08:42 andreashm   preferably, we would also like to limit between item types, but that might be over-reaching at the moment (it could be seperated with branch instead, although a bit clunky). This is to avoid patrons being anoyed when the reserve a book an end up with a books from the text-book collection, with a loan period of only 7 days.
08:43 andreashm   I didn't think our set-up was that unusual either... was surprised to not find any syspref's that did what I wnted it to do. =P
08:43 cait        holds are really tricky, so many ideas about them
08:44 andreashm   I can imagine.
08:44 cait        i think i'd try to pikc wizzyrea's or kyle's minds about it
08:45 andreashm   I'll try to do that.
08:45 cait        or even the mailing list
08:45 andreashm   see if they're around later
08:46 andreashm   mailing list might be a good idea too.
08:47 cait        i was plannign to gather all the holds related preferneces and config options in a documentation... but never get around to it
08:47 andreashm   that sounds like a brilliant idea... and something that would take a long time, and require a lot of patience too! =)
08:48 cait        yeah... i gues that'sthe problem :)
08:54 cdickinson  @later tell rangi got it working again: http://i.imgur.com/XP4MuQF.png
08:54 huginn      cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
08:57 drojf       i wonder what to do with the philippines kohacon proposal, given that the national library is not involved (anymore) but the proposal was not changed
08:58 drojf       it is still listed as conference location and hosting institution
09:07 drojf       i added it to the meeting agenda
09:07 drojf       it should be dealt with before we start voting. not sure how though
09:09 cdickinson  quick question
09:09 cdickinson  does any part of Koha need to be refreshed if koha-conf.xml is updated?
09:09 cdickinson  for example, Zebra?
09:11 magnuse     cdickinson: restarting zebra might be a good idea
09:14 * magnuse   needs fresh air and food
10:04 putti       Joubu, online?
10:19 cait        putti: i think he is not here this week
10:19 cait        @seen Joubu
10:19 huginn      cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 19 hours, 10 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Joubu> Have to run, I will be afk for a week! bye #koha
10:20 putti       cait, okay
10:20 putti       cait, I wouldn't have needed him, anyways :D
11:54 cdickinson  @later tell rangi got fully functional and configurable Koha sites, with no hacks or tricks or anything. memcached is enabled, still need to separate Zebra, but that will come. http://i.imgur.com/LYQtlBH.png
11:54 huginn      cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
12:17 cdickinson  @later tell rangi sorry for the later message flood, but I just launched a second concurrent Koha instance, and it works with the Koha site I created on the first one. So load balancing is ready to go as well
12:17 huginn      cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
12:24 magnuse     hiya nlegrand
12:28 nlegrand    o/ magnuse :)
12:36 nengard     morning all
12:36 magnuse     kia ora nengard
12:36 nengard     :)
12:38 kivilahtio_ hi nengard
12:40 magnuse     hiya kivilahtio_
12:42 magnuse     ¡hola tcohen!
12:46 tcohen      hola!
12:49 kivilahtio_ hola tcohen
12:51 tcohen      hola kivilahtio_
13:03 druthb      magnuse!  tcohen!  nengard!  :D  Mornin'.
13:03 nengard     druthb!
13:03 nengard     hehe
13:05 magnuse     druthb!
13:05 wahanui     druthb is, like, an amazing person
13:05 * druthb    stomps her foot.
13:06 druthb      Who told you that, wahanui?  :P
13:06 druthb      Lies!  All lies!
13:08 druthb      drojf!  :D
13:09 drojf       druthb! :)
13:18 schnydszch  good afternoon koha community!
13:20 magnuse     hiya schnydszch
13:20 kivilahtio  hi schnydszch
13:31 schnydszch  hi magnuse
13:31 schnydszch  hi kivilahtio
14:39 schnydszch  hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term
15:26 drojf       [off] i made a pretest version of the kohacon voting site. feel free to try and let me know if you find any problems http://abunchofthings.net/limesurvey/index.php/771662
15:28 schnydszch  tried it
15:28 schnydszch  it worked. I got "Thanks for voting! :)"
15:28 schnydszch  did it count? ;)
15:29 drojf       yes it did :)
15:29 drojf       thanks for trying
15:29 schnydszch  great! :)
15:33 drojf       schnydszch: would you happen to know what is the planning for the philippines proposal now? AFAIR the national library was no option anymore, but it is still given as hosting organisation and conference location in the wiki
15:33 cait        you were too slow
15:33 drojf       oh, did not see that
15:33 cait        maybe a later?
15:36 drojf       @later schnydszch would you happen to know what is the planning for the philippines proposal now? AFAIR the national library was no option anymore, but it is still given as hosting organisation and conference location in the wiki
15:36 huginn      drojf: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:36 drojf       meh
15:36 drojf       @later tell schnydszch would you happen to know what is the planning for the philippines proposal now? AFAIR the national library was no option anymore, but it is still given as hosting organisation and conference location in the wiki
15:36 huginn      drojf: The operation succeeded.
15:37 cait        oleonard++
15:58 reiveune    bye
16:17 drojf       [off] radio button version of the survey as proposed by cait, head of the kohacon vote supervision committee http://abunchofthings.net/limesurvey/index.php/614551?lang=en
16:35 cait        [off] lol :) i was just trying to simplify!
17:34 tcohen      hi drojf
17:35 drojf       hi tcohen
17:39 tcohen      drojf: did u manage to start the vagrant vm?
17:41 drojf       tcohen: my notebook broke and i lost 2,5 days. probably no time to try this week :(
17:41 tcohen      'this week', there is hope next then :-D
17:41 drojf       sure
17:42 tcohen      i'm finding interesting plack bugs
17:42 drojf       nice ;)
17:49 tcohen      @seen marcelr
17:49 huginn      tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 5 days, 0 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <marcelr> have to go; bye all
18:17 gaetan_B    bye
18:31 nitz0       Hi ppl. I'm new with Koha. I was reading wiki information and found that there is a link (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Import/Export_All_System_Preferences_RFC) wich category is: Abandoned RFC. That means that there is no Import/Export option 'cause it was never discused? (sorry my english).
18:34 pianohacker nitz0: correct, never discussed or implemented
18:35 nitz0       thx pianohacker
18:35 pianohacker looking for bugs...
18:37 pianohacker nitz0: it doesn't look like a bug exists. If you're interested, I'd recommend sending an email to the mailing list
18:42 nitz0       Uhm, maybe in the future. Now I'm just studying Koha. I installed it yesterday and I want to copy a working Koha DB from a working server. Anyway, its great to use BitchX again and see that IRC is alive.
18:45 nitz0       A work partner send me a file with some information he considered is useful for that purpose.
18:45 pianohacker nitz0: Fair :) Make sure to look at the command line tool koha-mysqldump
18:46 nitz0       right now
18:46 wahanui     well, right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works?
18:46 pianohacker nitz0: by the way, wahanui is a chatbot, so ignore it :)
18:50 nitz0       great /msg wahanui help, right?
19:00 xarragon    Has anyone gotten the drag-and-drop-functionality of jstree to work in Koha?
19:00 xarragon    I would need it to reorder a set of hierarctical data.. Biut can'ät it to work at all.
19:01 xarragon    The official documentation is kind of broken unfortunately,
19:05 xarragon    When I look in the JS file it does seem to have the plugin available.
19:06 xarragon    And I do the editor tree displayed.. But I can not trigger any DND events nor get it to do anything. No errors in the web console. Tried Firefox and Chrome
19:20 xarragon    Ahaa, seems like I needed to dump the script element into the body, not in the ready JS handler..
19:24 xarragon    Opps, no, it was just the ul/li missing the classes needed.
19:36 nitz0       /away
19:36 nitz0       oops
20:08 tcohen      bye #koha
20:13 rangi       woot
20:14 nengard     hola rangi
20:14 rangi       hey nengard :)
20:19 * andreashm waves
20:20 rangi       @later tell cdickinson awesome!!
20:20 huginn      rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:23 Rickx       Hello everyone,  I would ask if there is any routine or similar process to a cronjob you can run daily and generate the .mrc of the bibliographic records. Something similar to what makes cgi-bin/koha/tools/export.pl but from a cronjob ??
20:26 cait        hm can't you run export.pl as a cronjob?
20:26 Rickx       I do not know how to do it
20:27 cait        that should actually work, as export.pl can be used from command line
20:27 Rickx       Could you show me an example of how to do?
20:29 cait        sorry, I don't have the time right now
20:29 cait        try running it from command line first
20:29 Rickx       i run perl export.pl in the command line but the result is codigo html
20:29 cait        before you try automating it
20:30 cait        codigo?
20:30 Rickx       source
20:30 Rickx       code
20:30 cait        hm try without perl
20:31 Rickx       ok
20:31 cait        and add -h maybe - see if it shows you otpions
20:31 cait        ah --help
20:32 pastebot    "rangi" at pasted "$ perl tools/export.pl --h exp" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/66
20:33 cait        thanks rangi
20:33 cait        Rickx: take a look at the link there, it shows an example
20:33 Rickx       thank you
20:59 cait        be rangi
20:59 wahanui     There's a bug for that
21:00 cait        be rangi
21:00 wahanui     Send a patch!
21:00 cait        hi tcohen :)
21:02 Francesca   good morning
21:02 wahanui     well, it's morning somewhere, yes
21:03 cait        hi Francesca
21:04 Francesca   hey cait :)
21:04 Francesca   how are you?
21:05 Francesca   @wunder wlg
21:05 huginn      Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on September 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:05 tcohen      hi cait :-D
21:05 tcohen      hi Francesca
21:05 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
21:05 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 21.0°C (6:00 PM ART on September 08, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
21:05 Francesca   hey tcohen
21:06 Francesca   sup?
21:06 wahanui     everything.
21:06 cait        getting colder here
21:06 cait        brr
21:06 cait        @wunder Konstanz
21:06 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 14.9°C (11:05 PM CEST on September 08, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
21:06 Francesca   its getting warmer here, finally
21:06 cait        it feels colder :)
21:07 Francesca   still warmer in your part of the world though :)
21:23 cdickinson  @wunder nzwn
21:23 huginn      cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on September 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
21:32 nitz0       bye ppl! thx.
22:10 tcohen      cait++
22:10 cait        hm?
23:44 martian     Hi, IT just upgraded the test machine to koha 3.16
23:44 martian     and we ran into a problem "Staff members are not allowed to access patron's checkout history"
23:45 martian     never had that problem before.  the staff member is already set to superlibrarian
23:55 martian     has anyone have the same problem?