Time  Nick        Message
20:57 Kchris      have a good weekend, everyone.
20:54 cait        have a good weekend :)
20:53 pianohacker bbl :)
20:53 pianohacker cait: celebrating my mom's birthday
20:53 cait        any plans for the weekend?
20:53 cait        the shock hasn't worn off yet heh
20:52 pianohacker cait: unfortunately
20:52 cait        pianohacker: i guess your approach is... valid then?
20:36 cait        hi tcohen :)
20:36 tcohen      cait: hi
20:20 pianohacker agreed
20:20 cait        messy
20:18 pianohacker yup
20:18 cait        even if they don't have the c and d?
20:16 pianohacker cait: yeah. Koha only kills the first one in the record (it should kill all of them; multiple 999s mess up the rest of Koha)
20:16 wahanui     Can we get some hard data on that?
20:16 cait        looks like it
20:16 cait        it might have added another 999 yeah
20:15 pianohacker cait: in a separate tag?
20:15 cait        so koha doesn't kill it
20:15 cait        and it stays there when saving and reediting
20:15 cait        i added a 999a
20:15 cait        pianohacker: i just tested something
20:15 cait        hmm
20:14 tcohen      hi
20:14 pianohacker cait: yup. The code uses the mappings
20:13 cait        hm waht about unimarc? i think they store it in 001?
20:12 pianohacker I wish it weren't saved to the record (like how item data is handled)
20:12 pianohacker cait: yeah, it's quirky the way Koha handles it
20:11 cait        i am still in shock about the 999
20:11 pianohacker yeah, $c and $d
20:11 cait        biblioitemnumber too?
20:11 cait        hm not only c
20:10 pianohacker having an out-of-band MARC tag makes things a lot more complicated :)
20:10 pianohacker I could mark any other subfields besides 999$c as forbidden
20:09 cait        by keeping them out of the editors
20:09 cait        don't allow to add edit or delete
20:09 cait        ?
20:09 cait        or better... the 999 subfields
20:09 cait        is it not possible to disallow editing 999?
20:06 pianohacker we've run into this a few times with our partners
20:06 pianohacker But what is also very wrong is to have multiple 999s, that is a problem that is currently impossible to fix without a script and which confuses many parts of Koha
20:05 pianohacker I agree
20:05 cait        it seems very wrong
20:04 pianohacker cait: the whole 999, but check the code, Rancor's just doing it earlier :)
20:04 cait        or only about dleeting the subfields with the ids?
20:03 cait        are we talking about deleting the whole 999
20:03 pianohacker cait: I'd kill their data, but so will any other MARC modification in Koha :)
19:25 cait        thx
19:25 cait        makes sense :)
19:24 nengard     just fyi
19:24 nengard     cait i think pianohacker left to go teach a class
19:18 cait        hm
19:05 cait        you can't blindly delete fields like you want ;)
18:59 cait        pianohacker: ^
18:56 cait        you would kill their data
18:56 cait        people could have used other 999 subfields
18:36 pianohacker cait: check C4/Biblio.pm, lines 2947-2958
18:35 bag         pianohacker: it’s not exposed in the basic editor
18:27 pianohacker cait: my thought on the 999 was that deleting the 999 entirely is the only way to make sure it's safely re-added; it's not exposed in the basic editor, no?
18:22 tcohen      bye everyone, have a nice weekend
18:11 tcohen      new branch?
18:11 tcohen      magnuse: what shall we do with the ansible-driven kohadevbox?
18:10 tcohen      ok
18:10 tcohen      heh
18:10 drojf       gotta go shopping now, later
18:09 drojf       hm
18:09 tcohen      but the current plack.psgi file does actually include the ->disable_syspref_cache() line
18:09 drojf       ah just wanted to post that :)
18:09 huginn      04Bug 13805: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Installer does not work under Plack
18:09 tcohen      there is this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13805
18:08 tcohen      it refuses to log in, it just reload the page
18:08 drojf       i think i have seen a bug for that
18:08 drojf       i was wondering about that. i only switched to plack after the installer
18:05 tcohen      i cannot login to the installer with the DB credentials, with plack :-D
18:01 drojf       hehe
18:01 tcohen      drojf: http://giphy.com/gifs/cpRQzY4VS3V3W
17:59 drojf       so i have a reason to play with that again :D
17:58 drojf       if plack out of the box support makes it into 3.22 it might do a raspberry pi image for people to play with
17:56 tcohen      oh, my queue... damn
17:56 tcohen      i even think there was a bug filled for that
17:55 tcohen      heh
17:55 tcohen      and fix them
17:55 tcohen      drojf: the whole point is to find them all faster
17:52 drojf       :)
17:52 drojf       so it took me one minute to find a bug \o/
17:51 tcohen      drojf: i reproduced the problem, file upload doesn't seem to work
17:40 tcohen      in a file
17:40 tcohen      like grouping exceptions by context
17:40 tcohen      kivilahtio_: nice doc, but maybe a middle road should be considered too
17:38 pianohacker wnickc: it honestly should...
17:35 wnickc      pianohacker: oh, it's not zapping the items, z39.50 from the local catalog creates a new record, I just assumed it edited the existing record
17:34 tcohen      ie--
17:32 druthb      cait++
17:11 cait        oleonard++
17:09 kivilahtio_ anyway that is just my 2 cents, I hope we find more angles to this discussion
17:06 kivilahtio_ attachment "Comparing two Exception::Class approaches"
17:06 huginn      04Bug 13995: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Proper Exception handling
17:06 kivilahtio_ tcohen: You asked me to discuss Koha::Exception with Joubu, and I created a slide show about our discussion. You can take a look here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13995
16:59 drojf       tried again and koha-plack --disable was enough to make it work, so that must have been my error before
16:57 drojf       turning plack back on i cannot
16:55 drojf       tcohen: after disabling plack, stopping the plack daemon and then manually disabling the relevant lines in the apache conf (because they were still active) i can stage a marc file
16:53 drojf       and now its all broken. that was fun :)
16:47 drojf       it works on master (git) though
16:24 drojf       file upload goes ok, when i click stage for import i get the popup
16:24 drojf       http://abunchofthings.net/koha/dev/stagingerror.png
16:22 drojf       mom
16:20 tcohen      do u have a screenshot?
16:18 tcohen      yay!
16:17 drojf       with and without plack enabled :D
16:17 drojf       Failed to submit form: error
16:16 drojf       can't stage a marc record
16:09 drojf       ok. got to import some data so i have something to use
16:06 tcohen      if you have enabled bash-completion system wide, koha-plack <tab> should show you the available options
16:05 tcohen      to choose to deal with the instance's plack server or not
16:04 tcohen      (--plack/--noplack)
16:04 tcohen      sorry, the new switches koha-foreach and koha-list have
16:04 tcohen      the new init script uses a new function
16:04 tcohen      and --start/--stop/--restart, well, you know
16:04 tcohen      drojf: so koha-plack --enable/--disable just uncomments/comments two lines in the apache vhost file
16:02 drojf       tcohen++
16:02 drojf       cool
16:02 tcohen      on a separate project, though
16:02 tcohen      drojf: i'm working on taht
15:59 drojf       a way to see it from inside koha, i mean
15:58 drojf       is there a way to see if you are running plack? maybe an info in the about section would be good for the future
15:57 drojf       yes. i think we used to have starman running on different ports in ancient times, thats why i was asking
15:55 tcohen      it just looks for the cgi scripts somewhere else
15:55 tcohen      yes, your vhost definition doesn't change at all (in general terms)
15:53 drojf       or not? :)
15:53 drojf       yes, but that means i had VirtualHost *:8080 before and when i enable plack, i continue to use the staff client at VirtualHost *:8080
15:51 tcohen      take a look
15:51 tcohen      on both opac and intranet vhost definitions actually
15:51 tcohen      is uncommenting a line in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance>.conf
15:51 tcohen      and koha-plack --enable <instance>
15:51 tcohen      it is running on a unix socket
15:50 tcohen      plack won't run on a tcp port
15:50 drojf       just switch?
15:50 drojf       ?
15:50 drojf       so when i start plack, it will work on the default port
15:50 tcohen      great
15:50 drojf       have not tried yet, this is a regular installation with a master package
15:49 tcohen      so, drojf have you managed to run kohadevbox?
15:47 tcohen      knows
15:47 tcohen      with zebra it is not the same situation: you might disable the instance at all, but want to run zebra for testing/debugging purposes, or to just have the z39.50 server... who knos
15:46 tcohen      sip, think of SIP :-D
15:45 drojf       i wonder what happens then :D
15:45 tcohen      the init script won't start plack otoh
15:45 drojf       we can disable zebra?
15:45 tcohen      we do the same with SIP, zebra, etc
15:45 tcohen      you might want to run it for whatever reason
15:44 tcohen      ah. no, it starts
15:44 tcohen      it won't start if it is not enabled
15:43 drojf       tcohen: what is the idea behind start and enable plack? or, why would i want to start the plack daemon but not enable plack use?
15:28 cait        Joubu: have a good week!
15:28 cait        Joubu: don't leave us.... :)
15:28 cait        hi ashimema
15:27 ashimema    evening
15:26 tcohen      hi ashimema
15:26 tcohen      bye Joubu !
15:15 reiveune    bye
15:10 ashimema    enjoy your week Joubu
15:09 Joubu       Have to run, I will be afk for a week! bye #koha
15:03 Joubu       tcohen: hi
15:02 tcohen      hi Joubu
14:57 wahanui     rumour has it perfect is the enemy of good
14:57 Joubu       perfect!
14:54 lari        Joubu, I made it return 1 on resent, and 0 otherwise. Thanks for feedback :)
14:40 lari        doesn't _set_message_status return 0 but true on cases where no rows were affected? would it be best to  simply return 1 or 0 from ResendMessage
14:36 lari        Yeah in fact I had it returning 1 and 0 a while ago, not really sure what made me change it to message_id :)
14:33 Joubu       lari: maybe just return _set_msg_status($params);
14:32 Joubu       even return;
14:32 Joubu       lari: just a note: maybe the routine should return 1 if the msg has been resent, otherwise 0. Don't you think?
14:31 Joubu       lari: much more better thanks!
14:12 mveron      lari: Welcome :-)
14:11 lari        mveron, thanks for noticing! I would had forgotten :)
13:38 magnuse     have fun #koha!
13:25 tcohen      sorry, i intended to write :-P
13:24 tcohen      i won't put 'Wheezy not fully supported' on the release notes :-D
13:14 drojf       [off] on lenny or some ancient ubuntu? :P
13:13 cait        [off] which is apparently fairly recent... :)
13:13 cait        3.8
13:12 drojf       [off] i should team up with the other paul and fight for full wheezy support, but he's probably still on something much older
13:10 cait        i hope that made sense
13:09 cait        as Koha still works perfectly fine without it... for me it's not a hard condition or 'non-full supported'
13:09 cait        but hey... it is a about a library...
13:08 liw         but it's going away
13:08 liw         32-bit Intel servers are still plentiful; a number of virtual machine hosting places offer 32-bit only, to save a little bit on memory
13:07 andreashm_  haha
13:06 drojf       oh look, irc spam
13:05 drojf       cait: i don't know really
13:05 hecki       http://spiritualwarfare666.webs.com/Satans_Library.htm
13:05 cait        serious question, i don't know much about these kind of things :)
13:05 cait        drojf: is 32 somethign that is still widely used?
13:05 mveron      hi drojf :-)
13:04 drojf       hi mveron
13:04 drojf       his karma that is
13:04 * mveron    waves to cait and drojf
13:03 tcohen      drojf: we need people testing this, and solutions should come up
13:03 liw         poor eythian, who innocently participated in a short Debian packaging tutorial on my last day at Catalyst
13:03 drojf       look he got increased, now he has to do it
13:03 drojf       eythian++
13:03 tcohen      eythian++
13:03 tcohen      heh
13:01 drojf       :P
13:01 drojf       let's say eythian has to do it
13:00 liw         there is a Debian LTS project provide support to (some of) wheezy for several years
12:59 drojf       i think we had full support for squeeze until jessie was released, so it would be nice to not abandon wheezy too fast
12:59 tcohen      drojf: BTW: we should just drop support for apache in favour of nginx which wouldn't have caused this integration issues
12:59 liw         (those who would like to increase the likelihood should offer money to the people able to help make it happen, or encourage themselves or their employees to do it and become Debian developers, which is not at all as scary as rumour has it)
12:58 tcohen      liw: thanks
12:58 tcohen      before this, only some sysadmin/dev gurus had the chance to try it
12:58 drojf       liw: yes, i can imagine
12:58 liw         drojf, I note that backporting something big like Apache is potentially a lot of work, though, which reduceds its likelihood
12:58 tcohen      with this packages integration + a suitable kohadevbox that makes using it trivial, we will get broader testing, and eventually fix the remaining issues
12:57 drojf       liw: thanks
12:57 drojf       tcohen: but i think we all hope it will be soon
12:57 tcohen      drojf: the only problem is syspref caching, which is disabled in the shipped configuration :-D
12:56 drojf       tcohen: right, it is not ready for productive use as far as i know (at the staff side)
12:56 liw         drojf, a) a Debian developer decides a backport would be useful b) they port the version from Debian's testing suite to the target version (wheezy) and c) they upload it to wheezy-backports d) if it is a new package, it needs the backports guardians to approve it e) after that (or if no approval needed) it goes into wheezy-backports
12:55 tcohen      maybe we find a better solution before the release
12:55 tcohen      drojf: i respectfully disagree, right now it is an experimental feature that needs some user intervention to work
12:55 drojf       liw: but do you think it will get there eventually? how is decided what goes in there?
12:55 lari        we have been having lots of failed ones past days, it's annoying to manually run a query on them
12:54 lari        Joubu, it will be useful for my other work as well, I'm planning to create cronjob to automatically resend failed sms messages
12:54 drojf       so i would call that unsupported. or vaguely supported
12:54 * tcohen    nods
12:54 drojf       tcohen: or unless you use 32bit
12:54 tcohen      drojf: so wheezy is supported, but you will miss some new cool stuff, unless you pick the un-official backports
12:53 lari        Joubu, ok, thanks for your input, i agree
12:53 liw         tcohen, drojf: I can't see apache2 in wheezy-backports on https://packages.debian.org/ using the package search, or using the rmadision tool from the devscripts Debian package
12:53 mveron      Hi again #koha
12:52 drojf       don't think there are any as of yet
12:52 * xarragon  regrets giving up coffee, almost falling asleep
12:52 drojf       more like, do you know if it's likely there will be
12:51 tcohen      (official backports)
12:51 drojf       hi liw :)
12:51 tcohen      liw: do u know if there are apache 2.4 backports for wheezy?
12:51 Joubu       lari: especially because _set_message_status shouldn't be called outside of C4::Letters
12:50 * liw       has been summoned
12:50 Joubu       to make it covered by tests
12:50 drojf       that may be a liw question
12:50 Joubu       lari: I just suggested to move the code you introduced into a C4::Letters subroutine
12:49 drojf       no idea how the official backports work, if it is expected to see apache 2.4 there
12:49 drojf       but there are no backports for 32bit
12:48 drojf       more like "we left the cool stuff out but if you dont want that" :P
12:48 tcohen      we will provide instructions for installing the backports
12:48 drojf       i would not call it fully supported then :P
12:48 tcohen      drojf: yes, exactly
12:48 drojf       fully supported but placknot working you mean?
12:47 tcohen      it won't actually use it right now (the apache config tests for the right version)
12:47 tcohen      wheezy is fully supported, if you enable plack using koha-plack --enable
12:47 drojf       once that is working,everybody will want to use it
12:46 tcohen      *to use
12:46 tcohen      drojf: only if you want to the plack integration
12:46 drojf       *wheezy
12:46 drojf       how is the plan with the apache 2.4 requirement? is that going to stay? that would mean we have no real support for wheezya anymore?
12:45 tcohen      i mean silly because that dep is not mandatory!
12:45 tcohen      jessie is not working due to that silly missing dependency
12:44 tcohen      drojf: I managed to solve all the small glitches
12:44 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Signed Off , Allow resending of emails from the notices tab in the patron account
12:44 lari        Joubu, in bug 12426, you suggested a new subroutine instead of directly changing the message status in notices.pl. Would this subroutine basically have the same functionality as my patch, to set the status of message into 'pending' so that it will be processed later?
12:42 xarragon    tcohen: latter
12:42 drojf       so i will give it a try later
12:42 drojf       tcohen: had to sleep yesterday, could not test anymore. but i don't feel like catching the flu anymore
12:38 tcohen      if it is the latter, you need to provide for each theme, but hey, we only have bootstrap :-D
12:38 tcohen      xarragon: is it for in-house use or for commiting it to trunk?
12:37 xarragon    tcohen: so when I add a new opac part, I need to add one part/template for each theme then?
12:35 xarragon    tcohen: yes, I saw a bug ticket from ölate 2014 which generated the same errors
12:33 andreashm_  cait: thanks
12:33 cait        andreashm_: i can show you something, a sec
12:32 cait        reading back
12:32 cait        oh
12:31 tcohen      xarragon: it depends on the theme you are using, and 'prog' has been removed from Koha a while back
12:31 andreashm_  if I remember correctly.
12:30 andreashm_  tcohen: yeah we talked about that too. But cait said that perhaps it was possible with private reports too somehow.
12:30 xarragon    when adding a new page to the opac.. does the template go under 'prog' or 'bootstrap'.. or are they overlapping?
12:24 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.6°C (9:20 AM ART on September 04, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
12:24 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:21 tcohen      andreashm_: public reports maybe?
12:19 andreashm_  cait: was it you (your coworker) or was it Catalyst who made interesting things with (private) reports, for system integration? Can't remember what we said.
12:14 cait        hm drojf left already - i thought he might have
12:13 tcohen      did anyone had the chance to test the revamped kohadevbox?
12:12 Joubu       "the bug" ?
12:12 tcohen      not grumpy at all!
12:11 tcohen      you and Joubu, lots of stuff to talk about, and marcelr, about the Upload things
12:11 tcohen      ah, just a coincidence :-D
12:10 cait        because picking the three of us who were involved with the bug :)
12:10 tcohen      s/u/i/
12:10 tcohen      why us that?
12:10 cait        tcohen: are you grumpy with us?
12:10 tcohen      hi cait Joubu marcelr
12:09 wahanui     privet, tcohen
12:09 tcohen      hi there
12:08 cait        hi tcohen :)
11:43 drojf       hi andreashm
11:38 * andreashm waves
10:51 huginn      drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on September 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
10:51 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
09:56 * magnuse   too
09:52 * cait      waves and wanders off for lunch
09:43 drojf       hei magnuse
09:43 magnuse     moin drojf
09:39 drojf       hi #koha
09:11 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 9.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on September 04, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
09:11 magnuse     @wunder boo
09:11 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on September 04, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
09:11 cait        @wunder Konstanz
09:08 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:08 Joubu       @later tell tcohen ok forget that ;)
09:08 Joubu       oops again, the test pass... Wrong DB
09:07 cait        happens to me all the time....
09:07 cait        heh
09:07 Joubu       :)
09:07 Joubu       oops
09:06 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:06 Joubu       @later tell t/db_dependent/Circulation/IssuingRules/maxsuspensiondays.t is not! And it fails!
09:06 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:06 Joubu       @later tell tcohen please make jenkins execute ALL tests in t!
08:35 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 18.0°C (10:30 AM CEST on September 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
08:35 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
08:34 andreashm   well, I'm off to a meeting now. time to talk Koha to a new co-worker (developer)!
08:34 andreashm   a yes, at least bugzilla got updated
08:34 mveron      Hi #koha
08:33 wahanui     i think maybe is a momentaneous error
08:33 andreashm   maybe?
08:33 andreashm   it seemed to work
08:33 andreashm   ok, trying without the e
08:32 andreashm   then got the status 200 error
08:32 cait        hm try attaching it without the -e
08:32 andreashm   I got a timeout error first, and then tried redoing it
08:32 magnuse     andreashm: could it be a timeout?
08:32 cait        the error is usually hidden somehwere in the 200 html you get back
08:32 cait        andreashm: i was thinking maybe it's a problem iwth the auth
08:31 cait        you got 1.20 left or so of gbsd :)
08:31 Joubu       cait: yes, they opened 14293 some months ago and commented on 13909 yesterday.
08:31 cait        andreashm: it still counts
08:31 andreashm   I get git bz to work, I could apply the path. but not attaching it to sign off
08:30 cait        can you check if there is a git-bz in your home directory of the user?
08:30 cait        magnuse: ? :)
08:30 andreashm   I'm using using kohadevbox
08:30 cait        ine is in home/katrin... but not sure how the dev env is set up
08:30 cait        is there a git bz repository in your dev environment?
08:29 cait        you might have to update your git bz
08:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14726 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Signed Off , Title not showing up on checkout summary
08:29 andreashm   bug 14726
08:29 cait        ah
08:29 andreashm   I probably messed up somewhere. As usual. =9
08:29 cait        andreashm: which bug?
08:29 cait        ?
08:29 cait        Joubu: bug 13909 related
08:29 andreashm   missed GBSD yesterday. So I signed off a bug today instead. Or so I thought, but I get an error message (status=200) when I try to attach it. =(
08:27 cait        sadly :)
08:27 cait        Joubu: yeah, it hink so too
08:27 cait        oh, comment on irc
08:26 Joubu       the barcode stuff is not a regression, it has never worked I am almost sure
08:26 cait        hm no
08:25 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13909 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Suspension days calculation doesn't honour finesCalendar
08:25 cait        bug 13909
08:24 cait        i have seen another this morning
08:24 cait        i think it's a duplicate
08:24 cait        there is no comment from you on the bug :)
08:23 cait        so creating multiple it always creates the same
08:23 cait        we don't write the barcode generated back to the database
08:23 Joubu       ha! ok that's a regression then
08:23 cait        becuase of ajax
08:23 wahanui     somebody said neworderempty was really slow.
08:23 cait        neworderempty
08:23 Joubu       cait: ha but... for the barcode, the issue is on additem or neworderempty?
08:22 Joubu       yes
08:22 cait        is this the correct bug?
08:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14293 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Error in the calculation of the suspension of users per day
08:20 Joubu       cait: something else... sorry! But have you seen my previous comment here about bug 14293?
08:19 Joubu       hum ok, will have a look again... but I think 8684 fixes a bug on the check for an existing item, not the one create in the same round
08:17 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8684 major, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Duplicate check for creating items on order broken
08:17 cait        and bug 8684
08:17 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10890 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Autobarcode "<branch>yymm00001" Fails in Acquisitions When Receiving Item
08:17 cait        there is also bug 10890
08:17 cait        from 2012
08:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8425 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Autobarcode generates duplicate barcodes with AcqCreateItems = on order
08:15 cait        bug 8425
08:14 cait        but probably earlier than 3.18 then?
08:14 cait        but i agree... i kind of wonder if that has worked in older verseions
08:13 cait        it generates the same number all over
08:13 cait        testing another
08:13 cait        hm it appears to be broken in 3.18.8 as well .. the homebranch barcode
08:11 cait        in the columns administration
08:11 Joubu       ha maybe
08:11 cait        would that make sense?
08:11 cait        not the defaults for the subfields
08:10 cait        i think what he means is having default columns visibulitiy in the columns settings?
08:10 cait        ah
08:10 cait        not sure i understand his comment
08:10 Joubu       or I missed something
08:10 Joubu       But the table already only displays the mapped fields
08:10 Joubu       cait: something else: pianohacker added a note on the column visibility for items bug: "that this development does not allow applying default settings to subfields that aren't mapped."
08:09 cait        it only shows in the reading history, but no indicator on the current checkouts
08:09 cait        I failed to file a bug for it - but i think we should make on-site visible somewhere in the patron account
08:09 Joubu       not yet
08:08 cait        did you see my other comment on the on-site checkouts?
08:08 Joubu       yes ofc
08:08 cait        i can test in a 3.18 if you give me amoment -we don't have libraries using the autobarcode
08:08 Joubu       cait: I want to know because if it's a regression I can try and fix it
08:08 cait        doy ou mean it used to generate the next number in older versions for multiple items?
08:07 cait        i tested in master without the patch for another barcode pattern -s ame results - but I didn't test in an earlier version
08:07 cait        about the barcode bug
08:07 Joubu       hello cait
08:07 * cait      waves
08:07 cait        Joubu: around? :)
08:07 Joubu       pianohacker: around?
07:47 andreashm   hej magnuse
07:47 magnuse     tjänare andreashm
07:46 * andreashm waves
07:30 Joubu       It would exist in > 3.18
07:30 Joubu       Looking at the code, yes it's broken. But I am surprised that nobody raised this problem before.
07:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14293 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Error in the calculation of the suspension of users per day
07:29 Joubu       hum, bug 14293 seems a bit bad, could someone confirm?
07:24 gaetan_B    hello
07:23 cait        hi all
07:23 sophie_m    hi magnuse and #koha
07:23 magnuse     bonjour cait sophie_m
07:12 * magnuse   usually walks the dog for half an hour before lunch
07:12 magnuse     but yeah, there will be breaks
07:11 magnuse     thanks irma!
07:07 Joubu       I am sure he will need a break :)
07:05 irma        sounds interesting magnuse :) I am sending you a virtual lunch box with VEGEMITE sandwiches so you don't need to stop for lunch. Does that help?
07:01 alex_a_     salut magnuse
07:00 magnuse     bonjour alex_a Joubu
07:00 magnuse     preferably today
07:00 magnuse     irma: not exciting at all, just something i gotta get done
07:00 wahanui     well, it's morning somewhere, yes
07:00 Joubu       good morning
06:59 irma        I hear shouting all the way from the far north ...magnuse, is that you? What is so exciting about ncpi?
06:58 wahanui     what's up, alex_a
06:58 alex_a      bonjour
06:51 * Francesca waves
06:49 * magnuse   shouts ncip! ncip! ncip!
06:37 * dcook     waves
06:32 wahanui     hola, reiveune
06:32 reiveune    hello
06:28 magnuse     community++ cait++ for a good gbsd!
06:21 * magnuse   waves
06:06 dcook       Had written "time" instead of "$time"
06:06 dcook       Ahh
06:04 dcook       Well not really... just going to start inserting test strings until I find where it's dying..
06:02 * dcook     guesses he'll start looking through every reference he has to DateTime..
06:02 dcook       eythian: Just had one of those lovely moments where you have an error for a package but it's so deeply buried that you have no hope in finding it..
01:21 dcook       Actually that probably still works regardless of how you fill in that ellipsis..
01:20 dcook       For a second, I thought the librarians might be giving out too much information :p
01:20 dcook       "The sex of patrons..."
01:20 dcook       Just noticed this out of the corner of my eye when looking through our local bug tracker:
01:19 BobB        opposite for us
01:09 dcook       Interesting.. my wifi has been playing up but ethernet is all right
01:08 BobB        flaky internet here today
00:37 pianohacker bye all!
00:37 pianohacker all right, it's errands/dinner time
00:22 * dcook     misses slow days
00:22 dcook       Test patches, upstream patches, have slow days... haha
00:22 dcook       I'm kind of hoping that there will come a time after I'm done that project and the harvester where I can just focus on regular Koha stuff again
00:21 pianohacker yeah...
00:21 dcook       Nothing too exciting. A legacy app that I keep chugging along, but it eats up time.
00:18 pianohacker what's the non-Koha project?
00:18 pianohacker I know the feeling :)
00:18 dcook       I don't know how I've actually managed to stay sane :p
00:18 dcook       Splitting my time between a non-Koha project, the OAI-PMH harvester, and then regular Koha stuff like support/setups/etc
00:17 dcook       Oh man...
00:17 dcook       pianohacker: nice one!
00:16 pianohacker dcook: what have you been up to?
00:16 pianohacker dcook: there's a circ rules editor/backend revamp Kyle and I will be posting an RFC for soon :)
00:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, In Discussion , Professional cataloger's interface
00:15 pianohacker wnickc: just posted a followup you may be interested in on bug 11559
00:15 pianohacker dcook: been working on a large variety of projects, but not much time on rancor (though that's soon to change)
00:15 dcook       \o/
00:14 pianohacker yes, finished in may and they'll give me the silly paper in december
00:14 dcook       You're done your masters now, yeah?
00:14 dcook       pianohacker: Juggling a few projects, I'm guessing?
00:14 pianohacker marc--
00:14 dcook       pianohacker++
00:14 pianohacker phew, that was the most time I've spent working on rancor in ages
00:14 dcook       Technically, I could live and work in New Zealand :p
00:13 dcook       Yeah...
00:13 eythian     at least your're not in Austral....oh wait
00:12 dcook       [off] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei50lM6ab1c
00:12 dcook       All right. While I'm distracted, I should see that latest political video...
00:10 dcook       Hehe. I don't know if I ever noticed the matey/metis line :p
00:10 eythian     it doesn't
00:10 dcook       This song never gets old
00:09 dcook       We already had our own wheat and barley back at the farm :p
00:09 dcook       Except on the stormy days, but then it was mostly trying to not drown when you're nearly horizontal
00:09 dcook       Nah, mostly we just ate meat and cheese and enjoyed the sun
00:08 eythian     stealing wheat and barley and all the other grains?
00:08 dcook       True fact
00:08 * dcook     used to sail a boat on the Saskatchewan river
00:08 dcook       eythian: It's actually surprisingly accurate
00:08 eythian     https://youtu.be/DuGGNsE3_8Y <-- dcook, I just assumed this was you
00:06 dcook       [off] This is my favourite Canadian video these days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKSjCli_ym4
00:06 dcook       Ahh
00:06 * dcook     puts Portishead back on
00:06 eythian     it's a classic NZ band
00:06 dcook       eythian: Where do you find this stuff? :p
00:05 pianohacker hahahahahahaha
00:05 dcook       Dinde is French for turkey... I figured maybe..
00:05 dcook       Ahh "Where's"
00:05 dcook       Donde Esta La Pollo... is that like... Turkey is the chicken?
00:04 dcook       One reason why I love going to the "international" section at the grocery store
00:04 eythian     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVYvbd8PD-Q <-- dcook
00:04 * dcook     isn't so keen on the unilingual packaging here
00:04 dcook       thanks, wizzyrea :D
00:04 * dcook     gets sad over this
00:04 dcook       I think about French all the time, especially when my family post photos of commercial packaging which contains both French and English labels :(
00:04 wizzyrea    :)
00:04 wizzyrea    close as I can get you
00:04 wizzyrea    ^
00:04 dcook       los habitantes de #koha?
00:03 wizzyrea    it's been ages since I thought about spanish
00:03 wizzyrea    ah yea de
00:03 wizzyrea    yes. duh.
00:03 dcook       Wouldn't that be a definite article?
00:03 wizzyrea    los maybe?
00:03 * dcook     lives in an Italian suburb... he should really learn Italian..
00:03 dcook       da?
00:03 dcook       de in French... di in Italian?
00:02 eythian     dcook: me too
00:02 dcook       How does one use "of" in Spanish?
00:02 wizzyrea    we should ask tcohen ^.^
00:02 dcook       habitantes of #koha :D
00:02 wizzyrea    which is like, population, people
00:02 dcook       I like that
00:02 dcook       hehe
00:02 wizzyrea    habitantes, also probably ok
00:02 wizzyrea    gentes, probably
00:02 dcook       Folk has to be one of my favourite words ever
00:01 wizzyrea    it's like "folk"
00:01 dcook       That's funny as the French equivalent would be "gens" I guess
00:01 wizzyrea    súbditos
00:01 dcook       wizzyrea: gracias :D
00:01 wizzyrea    gente
00:01 huginn      dcook: The operation succeeded.
00:01 dcook       @later tell eythian That's awesome. I really need to book tickets and stuff for OSDC...
00:00 dcook       I actually wanted to use a gender neutral word, but I don't know enough Spanish...