Time  Nick         Message
23:51 huginn       pianohacker: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 7 hours, 44 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Joubu> ;)
23:51 pianohacker  @seen Joubu
23:40 * Francesca  waves
23:27 dcook        Much appreciated pianohacker
23:27 dcook        Oh, thanks :)
23:26 pianohacker  dcook: by the way, 13-week-belated congratulations!
23:26 dcook        O_o
23:26 eythian      seriously, look it up
23:26 wahanui      OK, eythian.
23:26 eythian      wahanui: weasel is actually the "least weasel"
23:26 * dcook      waves
23:23 wizzyrea     hi
22:30 wahanui      rumour has it eythian is an expert bot trainer
22:30 bag          hey eythian
22:24 eythian      hi
21:33 tsk          i need to know in acq global system preferences in option AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceiptIsCancelled 	& AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived 	what option one should enter there
17:39 Malumfashee  hello!
17:38 Malumfashee  please anyone online to help
16:13 gaetan_B     bye
15:28 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11584: (QA followup) add missing newline at end of YAML file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6256eac2f672c9ef4e8ec63bfe952af34051d9df>
15:27 tcohen       (during install)
15:27 tcohen       jajm: good job, where is the code being put?
15:11 fridolin     see u
15:03 xeugene      Hello Guys
15:01 reiveune     bye
14:55 putti        has someone analyzed why and in which parts manage-marc-import.pl takes much resources when importing records?
14:15 putti        tcohen, yup!
14:15 tcohen       maybe we can discuss a proper solution
14:15 tcohen       i.e. debug it and come back
14:14 tcohen       for each thing you suspect is responsible
14:14 tcohen       use Data::Printer; warn p($item_object) or something like that on the controller script
14:14 tcohen       please, try to reproduce and insert
14:13 tcohen       yeah, you are probably missing mandatory data
14:13 putti        I think the problem was fixed by "editing" the record without editing it and the saving it
14:13 putti        tcohen, oh no, it didn't :/
14:12 tcohen       :-P
14:11 putti        tcohen, alright. btw that comma fix now fixed also the check in functionality! :)
14:05 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13697: (QA followup) fix typo in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=208400fff2d83836d0c4e068d63b04189ff5d0e8>
13:59 tcohen       putti: that happens a lot in Koha. It happens a lot less than before (there are some obsessive people here trying to reach perfection regarding user experience) and bugs + patches are really welcome. Solutions are generally trivial, but we need people spotting the problems to fill the bugs
13:56 putti        yeah
13:56 tcohen       there should at least be a warning
13:54 putti        tcohen, well that is true, I'm not sure if I did a bug report already about some other data which can be imported and then everything goes wrong.
13:54 tcohen       putti: I don't think so
13:54 putti        tcohen, or was there some changes to importing/checking in in the last few days
13:54 tcohen       putti: i don't, probably we are letting you inject incomplete item data
13:53 putti        tcohen, do you have also any idea of why imported items cannot be checked in anymore?
13:52 putti        I dunno :D
13:51 tcohen       putti: ah! how did the QA people miss that?
13:48 putti        tcohen, ^
13:47 putti        It is commit d1c41cda5bd4e1c36fd785015d08d21f6398430a which caused (at least partly) but previously it has been in the same way.. so that's weird. Maybe some other commit made koha more nitpicky about the syntax.
13:40 putti        mveron, it is missing a comma
13:38 tcohen       hi cait
13:38 pastebot     "putti" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sysprefs.sql ERROR 1064 (42000" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59
13:36 Raj          HI
13:35 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11190: (QA followup) for tests on jenkins <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9bf6846bb6e7c0e95f837b08a1dacf849baffed>
13:30 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 24.8°C (8:29 AM CDT on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:30 druthb       @wunder 77098
13:30 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 32.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
13:30 druthb       @wunder konstanz
13:26 putti        The login worked first, but then I deleted the whole database and I got this error.
13:26 putti        at /home/putti/kohaclone/C4/NewsChannels.pm line 212.
13:25 mveron       putti: This message comes from C4/Dates.pm sub  _recognize_format($)
13:19 putti        Now I get this error again, after I login: The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized.
13:17 putti        *items
13:17 putti        mveron, wait, just deleted again my database... Might take a while to import those files again
13:16 mveron       putti: Can you edit the item(s)? - Do they have a valid item type?
13:13 putti        First the error happens only with records that I imported with the batch import tool
13:13 putti        Ok. Now I was able to reproduce it.
13:03 putti        Does the log file I attached give any clue why it might have caused
13:02 mveron       putti: I can not reproduce 14755
13:01 putti        But something triggered the error after the upgrade..
13:01 tcohen       i'll try with a real barcode :-P
13:00 putti        I knew it :D
13:00 tcohen       putti: i don't see the error in master
12:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14755 critical, P3, ---, j.kylmala, NEW , Checking in gives error 500
12:57 putti        Can someone take a look at the bug 14755, please.
12:54 kivilahtio   tcohen: ashimema: I made a presentation for you! http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=42113
12:53 kivilahtio   haha
12:52 ashimema     huh?
12:51 wahanui      certainly is probably confusing.. thanks for bringing ashimema's attention to it.
12:51 kivilahtio   tcohen: certainly!
12:51 tcohen       kivilahtio: would you coordinate with Jonathan to find a middle road for organizing exception definitions?
12:50 tcohen       enjoy :-D
12:49 kivilahtio   need to go continue in a bit
12:48 kivilahtio   tcohen: too bad I was renovating our kitchen. From floor to ceiling
12:48 kivilahtio   tcohen: yeah I heard
12:48 tcohen       we missed you around :-D
12:48 tcohen       hi kivilahtio
12:47 druthb       decent.  briskly busy, but doing okay.
12:47 tcohen       how are u doing?
12:46 tcohen       hey druthb
12:46 * druthb     waves to cait and tcohen and drojf
12:46 tcohen       hi alex_a_
12:46 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:46 tcohen       @later tell eythian i'm talking to fredericd about this, thanks for taking care
12:46 alex_a_      hello tcohen
12:46 cait         morning tcohen
12:45 alex_a_      Does anyone kown why Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy is a required dependency now ?
12:45 tcohen       morning #koha!
12:32 drojf        that was my feeling too ;)
12:30 cait         drojf: i wouldn't do it :)
12:20 drojf        if i use a slash in the authorized value code (not category), will it explode?
12:12 magnuse      hiya Arve_S
12:02 jajm         cait, the "tax rewrite" patches are already signed off, should i add them to the gbsd list anyway ?
11:53 jajm         ... if i remember my wiki username :)
11:50 jajm         of course
11:47 cait         coudl you do it?
11:46 jajm         so yes, it can't harm to add this bug :)
11:44 cait         or waht to work on
11:44 cait         giving ideas on what to test
11:43 jajm         cait, what is this list for ?
11:36 wahanui      gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:36 cait         gbsd?
11:36 cait         jajm: ok thx - should we add the taxes patches to the testing list?
11:34 jajm         cait, i don't have the complete lists of locked sandboxes but they display a message when they are (example: http://pro.test17.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/sandbox.pl)
11:31 jajm         cait, not really, but i'll be around with alex_a_ on thursday ;)
11:31 cait         and which ones are currently not available maybe, because locked for testing or so
11:31 cait         if yes, was wondering if you'd be around on thursday
11:30 cait         hi jajm :) are you in charge of the biblibre sandboxes now?
11:28 jajm         cait, hi :)
11:23 kivilahtio   Joubu: I hope this is something which can help BibLibre to manage their workflows
11:23 kivilahtio   Joubu: There is also a nice LibreOffice Impress presentation which shows the workflow the AtomicUpdater supports
11:22 kivilahtio   Joubu: I am rewriting our features now to atomicupdate, and hopefully soon I get some real-life experience on using that feature
11:22 kivilahtio   Joubu: I finally managed to wrap it and document a bit :)
11:21 kivilahtio   Joubu: we spoke about the atomicupdate improvement to keep track of which updates have been deployed
11:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database
11:21 kivilahtio   Joubu: Bug 14698 - AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database
11:20 Francesca    thanks
11:19 pastebot     "cdickinson" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "index.php" (95 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58
11:16 cait         I send a reminder this morning, we could send a follow up to this
11:16 drojf        cait: i plan to be there and sign off a little, but may have a meeting somewhen in between
11:15 cait         they didn't leave a note - maybe ask if you'd be willing to?
11:15 khall        cait: should this be for people who have a Koha test system ready? Or I could do it via the sandboxes?
11:14 cait         jajm: around?
11:14 cait         maybe we could have a 'learn how to sign off' one?
11:14 khall        yes, that's what I thought
11:13 cait         khall: someone asked on help 'how to sign off'
11:13 cait         drojf: if you could manage to be around for a bit answering questions that would already help
11:13 cait         thursday - thx drojf
11:13 khall        cait: what are you looking for a tutorial of? Testing and signing off?
11:13 cait         itis
11:13 cait         oh
11:13 drojf        cait: sorry, not this time. several fights with bureaucracy this week and hopefully meeting a new library. no time to prepare anything. also i thought its on thursday?
11:12 khall        cait: I can do one in the morning here, any time in the morning until 11 am EST ( start time of meetings ).
11:11 cait         you all said at our initial irc meeting that you'd participate... so... no i am coming after you :)
11:10 wahanui      hmmm... gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:10 cait         gbsd?
11:10 cait         GBSD is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:09 cait         i had send an email to the list a while ago ;)
11:09 wahanui      cait: I forgot gbsd
11:09 cait         forget gbsd
11:09 wahanui      gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-11-15_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:09 cait         gbsd?
11:09 cait         this wednesday
11:09 khall        when and how?
11:08 cait         and you too khall :)
11:08 cait         drojf: can I recruit you for a tutorial on gbsd?
11:08 khall        what's up?
11:08 cait         khall: around?
10:42 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 31.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
10:42 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
10:40 drojf        hi #koha
09:36 mveron       hi magnuse :-)
09:36 magnuse      hiya mveron
09:30 mveron       Hi #koha
09:10 Francesca    night #koha
09:09 Francesca    right I should go to bed
09:09 Francesca    lol
09:09 cdickinson   drojf is not here to comment
09:07 wahanui      :(
09:07 Francesca    wahanui: bad bot
09:07 Francesca    sad
09:07 Francesca    awww
09:07 wahanui      i think fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour
09:07 cdickinson   wahanui: what is fun
09:05 Francesca    fun fun
09:04 cdickinson   the rest of tomorrow is going to be terrible
09:03 Francesca    lol
09:03 cdickinson   the only part I will enjoy is the energy drink that I will inevitably have
09:02 Francesca    enjoy yourself
09:02 Francesca    fun
09:02 cdickinson   joy of joys
09:02 cdickinson   I get the privilege of driving into town before 6am tomorrow morning to pick up my sister from the intercity bus platform
09:02 Francesca    oh?
09:02 cdickinson   it gets worse though
09:01 Francesca    heh
09:01 cdickinson   just gotta put it through the ringer, back and forth bugfixing, y'know
09:01 Francesca    oh dear
09:01 Francesca    hahahahahaha
09:00 cdickinson   almost finished rewriting what I was rewriting
09:00 Francesca    ok
09:00 cdickinson   oh, no, I was talking about the actual Koha instances and stuff
09:00 Francesca    I just need to implement changes and push them
09:00 Francesca    thats working
09:00 Francesca    you mean the webpage?
08:59 cdickinson   going to get Koha as a Service working again tonight
08:59 Francesca    so why calm before the storm?
08:59 cdickinson   well, inside the project anyway
08:59 cdickinson   nothing, yet
08:58 huginn       Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
08:58 Francesca    @wunder wlg
08:57 Francesca    what else went wrong?
08:57 Francesca    I got your tell later
08:57 Francesca    what happened
08:57 Francesca    oh w
08:56 cdickinson   Francesca: the calm before the storm
08:56 Francesca    hey cait :)
08:56 cait         hi ashimema :)
08:56 cait         hi Francesca :)
08:56 Francesca    evening
08:06 * Viktor     waves at cait
08:06 Viktor       Kia ora magnuse
08:06 * cait       waves at Viktor
08:05 magnuse      kia ora Viktor
07:59 magnuse      kia ora cait
07:59 cait         good morning #koha
07:38 magnuse      heh
07:38 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 26.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
07:38 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:38 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:38 magnuse      bonjour le france!
07:27 gaetan_B     hello
07:09 fridolin     hie
07:09 dcook        And lots of unnamed namespaces...
07:08 dcook        Yeah, it's me being crazy
07:00 dcook        And me being crazy
07:00 dcook        Some sort of namespace issue I think
07:00 magnuse      dcook: race condition?
06:55 * dcook      sighs
06:55 dcook        With 5 minutes until the end of the day
06:55 dcook        I swear I'm doing the same thing twice in a row and getting different results...
06:55 * dcook      twitches again
06:53 alex_a       bonjour
06:47 * dcook      twitches
06:42 dcook        I really dislike that thing where you seem to fix something and then it doesn't work again 5 minutes later when you try the exact same thing again..
06:38 magnuse      ncip! ncip! ncip!
06:26 reiveune     hello
06:24 putti        or not..
06:24 putti        Oh, it was just old cookies
06:22 putti        Anybody got this error after todays git pull: The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized ?
06:20 * dcook      grumbles
06:15 dcook        Actually that shouldn't cause me any grief..
06:15 dcook        Or..
06:14 dcook        But collection has it..
06:14 dcook        As I expect "record" to have a MARC namespace
06:14 dcook        Ahh, but it does cause me problems..
06:12 dcook        It shouldn't really matter to much, as I'm prying the record out on its own
06:12 * dcook      crosses his fingers
06:11 magnuse      dcook: ah yeah, might be on purpose, then
06:09 pastebot     "putti" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Check in Error 500" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/57
05:36 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
05:36 cait         @later tell eythian  do you want to add the elastic search bugs to the gbsd page?
05:35 cait         reminder - gbsd on thursday!
05:31 dcook        Other OAI-PMH servers I've seen don't use the collection wrapper
05:31 dcook        So it's removal could be the fixing of a bug
05:30 dcook        Well, I don't know why there would be a collection wrapper
05:30 magnuse      dcook: if a collection wrapper has gone missing it sounds like a bug?
05:28 cait         bye eythian
05:26 dcook        If you added it and deleted it, you need to show you deleted it
05:26 dcook        I suppose it's a record though
05:26 dcook        I'm glad we have deleted record support with the OAI-PMH server, but it's a bit annoying if you delete and re-add records..
05:24 huginn       cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
05:24 cdickinson   @later tell Francesca http://paste.koha-community.org/56
05:24 pastebot     "cdickinson" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "JavaScript fixes for the Koha as a Service page" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/56
05:22 * magnuse    is all for eythian keeping his eyes firmly in his head
05:21 magnus_afk   hiya putti
05:21 eythian      (also because my eyes are about to fall out if I stare at a computer much longer.)
05:21 eythian      think I'm going to leave now cait has shown up ;)
05:21 wahanui      what's up, eythian
05:21 eythian      hi
05:20 putti        cait, hello to you too ! :)
05:20 putti        magnus_afk, hi
05:20 cait         hi #koha
05:20 * magnus_afk waves
05:13 dcook        I am having breakfast at 3pm though.. that's not so bad
05:10 dcook        I think I'm going to workaround that in a second and stop caring though..
05:10 dcook        No idea why 3.14 is using a collection wrapper and master isn't though..
05:10 dcook        Naturally
05:10 eythian      of course it does
05:09 dcook        Because the opac oai.pl uses the intranet prog...
05:09 dcook        It's the intranet "prog"
05:09 dcook        Worst Monday ever
05:09 dcook        Ah wait... I'm just slow
05:08 eythian      I'm sure they've actually been deleted
05:08 dcook        O_o
05:08 dcook        Well, only for outputting OAI DC it seems
05:08 eythian      surely not
05:06 dcook        It looks like the OAI-PMH server might still use the prog templates..
05:06 dcook        Oh my...
05:05 eythian      -a
05:04 eythian      but you haven't had a your monday yet.
05:04 eythian      you say that
05:04 putti        Good morning1
05:01 eythian      erg
05:00 dcook        Now why the hell is the OAI-PMH metadata in 3.14 coming out wrapped in a collection while the OAI-PMH metadata coming out without it..
04:58 dcook        That sucks :(
04:58 dcook        Hmm, maybe not bad data per se... but perhaps the OAI-PMH server changed between 3.14 and master?
04:58 eythian      my eyes are starting to get very tired as I need to replace my contacts, but I don't have any replacements right now.
04:57 eythian      yeah, me too
04:57 dcook        Yep, it's Monday
04:57 * dcook      is a bit over everything today
04:57 dcook        Looks like bad data coming out of Koha..
04:56 eythian      yeah, it won't be that
04:55 dcook        Nope..
04:54 dcook        Oh I wonder..
04:48 dcook        That moment when everything stops working inexplicably :S
02:20 Francesca    bye rangi, eythian, wizzyrea
02:19 Francesca    medical appointments loom
02:19 Francesca    gotta go
02:19 Francesca    anyways
02:19 cdickinson   will do
02:19 Francesca    just the first thing that came to my head
02:19 Francesca    didn't mean to put login
02:19 Francesca    cdickinson: take a look at that
02:19 pastebot     "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "javascript login" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/55
02:08 Francesca    they don't know
02:08 Francesca    they're not in here
02:08 cdickinson   don't need to give Stuff more reasons to generate clickbait
02:07 Francesca    but imagine the headlines!
02:07 Francesca    lots of damage done
02:07 Francesca    that would be a bad thing
02:06 * wizzyrea   lives near the airport, and does not want raining planes
02:05 cdickinson   "it's raining planes." even with context...
02:05 Francesca    http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/71582558/air-nz-joins-9-price-war-jetstar-announces-new-nz-routes ----> According to stuff it raining planes. But aw yeah cheep airfares ftw
02:04 Francesca    thanks for the reminder eythian :)
02:02 eythian      ids must always be unique, classes can be repeated
02:01 * Francesca  facepalms
02:01 Francesca    thanks guys
02:01 Francesca    div has the same id
02:01 Francesca    fail
02:01 Francesca    ahh faik
02:00 cdickinson   in the context of IDs though
02:00 Francesca    hmm
02:00 rangi        id are supposed to be unique
02:00 Francesca    like email
02:00 Francesca    but that applies to other fields as well
02:00 Francesca    it is
02:00 cdickinson   as in, the id you're using for that field might be used by something else on the page
01:59 Francesca    what do you mean by duplicate though
01:59 Francesca    nope no missing any quotes
01:59 cdickinson   that's what I was just thinking about
01:59 eythian      also, you're not missing a " or something that causes everything to mis-parse?
01:59 eythian      it's not a duplicate id?
01:58 Francesca    must be the weirdest ever error I've had on this webpage
01:57 Francesca    anyone got any ideas as to why an input id on a form field would cause my css to break massively for that field?
01:56 cdickinson   http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/182416/A-Collection-of-JavaScript-Gotchas
01:55 Francesca    evil
01:54 cdickinson   there are all sorts of gotchas with JavaScript
01:53 Francesca    javascript is way to easy to break
01:18 wahanui      Francesca: francesca =is= <reply> Francesca is a sleep deprived zombie|<reply> a defender of bots rights till the end of time|<reply> is waging a war against the video driver that continues to fail on her vm
01:18 Francesca    literal francesca
01:15 wizzyrea     that is really interesting eythian
01:12 cdickinson   glad to know we are not the only ones standing for bots rights
01:10 Francesca    lol
01:10 ibeardslee   should be locked away until they are 21
01:04 eythian      http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/artificial-intelligence/children-beating-up-robot <-- hellmonsters
01:03 Francesca    bad laptop
01:02 Francesca    weird
01:02 Francesca    whah disconnected
01:00 wahanui      ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass|<reply> an extremely creepy stalker bot.... you have been warned|a parrot|<reply> wrong|<reply> on fire|<reply> gaining knowledge faster than sustainable|canadian|google...
01:00 cdickinson   wahanui, you are a wise man
01:00 wahanui      everything.
01:00 Francesca    whats sup?
00:59 dcook        yo
00:57 Francesca    hey dcook
00:56 dcook        hehe
00:55 eythian      yeah right
00:54 Francesca    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/71589919/Sarcasm-is-the-highest-form-of-intelligence-researchers-say ---> So true
00:27 dcook        hehe
00:27 eythian      dcook: not at all, did you see that thing about the dog?!?!
00:03 dcook        eythian: Slow news day? :p