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23:51 huginn pianohacker: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 7 hours, 44 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Joubu> ;)
23:51 pianohacker @seen Joubu
23:40 * Francesca waves
23:27 dcook Much appreciated pianohacker
23:27 dcook Oh, thanks :)
23:26 pianohacker dcook: by the way, 13-week-belated congratulations!
23:26 dcook O_o
23:26 eythian seriously, look it up
23:26 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:26 eythian wahanui: weasel is actually the "least weasel"
23:26 * dcook waves
23:23 wizzyrea hi
22:30 wahanui rumour has it eythian is an expert bot trainer
22:30 bag hey eythian
22:24 eythian hi
21:33 tsk i need to know in acq global system preferences in option AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceiptIsCancelled & AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived what option one should enter there
17:39 Malumfashee hello!
17:38 Malumfashee please anyone online to help
16:13 gaetan_B bye
15:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11584: (QA followup) add missing newline at end of YAML file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6256eac2f672c9ef4e8ec63bfe952af34051d9df>
15:27 tcohen (during install)
15:27 tcohen jajm: good job, where is the code being put?
15:11 fridolin see u
15:03 xeugene Hello Guys
15:01 reiveune bye
14:55 putti has someone analyzed why and in which parts manage-marc-import.pl takes much resources when importing records?
14:15 putti tcohen, yup!
14:15 tcohen maybe we can discuss a proper solution
14:15 tcohen i.e. debug it and come back
14:14 tcohen for each thing you suspect is responsible
14:14 tcohen use Data::Printer; warn p($item_object) or something like that on the controller script
14:14 tcohen please, try to reproduce and insert
14:13 tcohen yeah, you are probably missing mandatory data
14:13 putti I think the problem was fixed by "editing" the record without editing it and the saving it
14:13 putti tcohen, oh no, it didn't :/
14:12 tcohen :-P
14:11 putti tcohen, alright. btw that comma fix now fixed also the check in functionality! :)
14:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13697: (QA followup) fix typo in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=208400fff2d83836d0c4e068d63b04189ff5d0e8>
13:59 tcohen putti: that happens a lot in Koha. It happens a lot less than before (there are some obsessive people here trying to reach perfection regarding user experience) and bugs + patches are really welcome. Solutions are generally trivial, but we need people spotting the problems to fill the bugs
13:56 putti yeah
13:56 tcohen there should at least be a warning
13:54 putti tcohen, well that is true, I'm not sure if I did a bug report already about some other data which can be imported and then everything goes wrong.
13:54 tcohen putti: I don't think so
13:54 putti tcohen, or was there some changes to importing/checking in in the last few days
13:54 tcohen putti: i don't, probably we are letting you inject incomplete item data
13:53 putti tcohen, do you have also any idea of why imported items cannot be checked in anymore?
13:52 putti I dunno :D
13:51 tcohen putti: ah! how did the QA people miss that?
13:48 putti tcohen, ^
13:47 putti It is commit d1c41cda5bd4e1c36fd785015d08d21f6398430a which caused (at least partly) but previously it has been in the same way.. so that's weird. Maybe some other commit made koha more nitpicky about the syntax.
13:40 putti mveron, it is missing a comma
13:38 tcohen hi cait
13:38 pastebot "putti" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sysprefs.sql ERROR 1064 (42000" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59
13:36 Raj HI
13:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11190: (QA followup) for tests on jenkins <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9bf6846bb6e7c0e95f837b08a1dacf849baffed>
13:30 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 24.8°C (8:29 AM CDT on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:30 druthb @wunder 77098
13:30 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 32.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
13:30 druthb @wunder konstanz
13:26 putti The login worked first, but then I deleted the whole database and I got this error.
13:26 putti at /home/putti/kohaclone/C4/NewsChannels.pm line 212.
13:25 mveron putti: This message comes from C4/Dates.pm sub _recognize_format($)
13:19 putti Now I get this error again, after I login: The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized.
13:17 putti *items
13:17 putti mveron, wait, just deleted again my database... Might take a while to import those files again
13:16 mveron putti: Can you edit the item(s)? - Do they have a valid item type?
13:13 putti First the error happens only with records that I imported with the batch import tool
13:13 putti Ok. Now I was able to reproduce it.
13:03 putti Does the log file I attached give any clue why it might have caused
13:02 mveron putti: I can not reproduce 14755
13:01 putti But something triggered the error after the upgrade..
13:01 tcohen i'll try with a real barcode :-P
13:00 putti I knew it :D
13:00 tcohen putti: i don't see the error in master
12:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14755 critical, P3, ---, j.kylmala, NEW , Checking in gives error 500
12:57 putti Can someone take a look at the bug 14755, please.
12:54 kivilahtio tcohen: ashimema: I made a presentation for you! http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=42113
12:53 kivilahtio haha
12:52 ashimema huh?
12:51 wahanui certainly is probably confusing.. thanks for bringing ashimema's attention to it.
12:51 kivilahtio tcohen: certainly!
12:51 tcohen kivilahtio: would you coordinate with Jonathan to find a middle road for organizing exception definitions?
12:50 tcohen enjoy :-D
12:49 kivilahtio need to go continue in a bit
12:48 kivilahtio tcohen: too bad I was renovating our kitchen. From floor to ceiling
12:48 kivilahtio tcohen: yeah I heard
12:48 tcohen we missed you around :-D
12:48 tcohen hi kivilahtio
12:47 druthb decent. briskly busy, but doing okay.
12:47 tcohen how are u doing?
12:46 tcohen hey druthb
12:46 * druthb waves to cait and tcohen and drojf
12:46 tcohen hi alex_a_
12:46 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:46 tcohen @later tell eythian i'm talking to fredericd about this, thanks for taking care
12:46 alex_a_ hello tcohen
12:46 cait morning tcohen
12:45 alex_a_ Does anyone kown why Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy is a required dependency now ?
12:45 tcohen morning #koha!
12:32 drojf that was my feeling too ;)
12:30 cait drojf: i wouldn't do it :)
12:20 drojf if i use a slash in the authorized value code (not category), will it explode?
12:12 magnuse hiya Arve_S
12:02 jajm cait, the "tax rewrite" patches are already signed off, should i add them to the gbsd list anyway ?
11:53 jajm ... if i remember my wiki username :)
11:50 jajm of course
11:47 cait coudl you do it?
11:46 jajm so yes, it can't harm to add this bug :)
11:44 cait or waht to work on
11:44 cait giving ideas on what to test
11:43 jajm cait, what is this list for ?
11:36 wahanui gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:36 cait gbsd?
11:36 cait jajm: ok thx - should we add the taxes patches to the testing list?
11:34 jajm cait, i don't have the complete lists of locked sandboxes but they display a message when they are (example: http://pro.test17.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/sandbox.pl)
11:31 jajm cait, not really, but i'll be around with alex_a_ on thursday ;)
11:31 cait and which ones are currently not available maybe, because locked for testing or so
11:31 cait if yes, was wondering if you'd be around on thursday
11:30 cait hi jajm :) are you in charge of the biblibre sandboxes now?
11:28 jajm cait, hi :)
11:23 kivilahtio Joubu: I hope this is something which can help BibLibre to manage their workflows
11:23 kivilahtio Joubu: There is also a nice LibreOffice Impress presentation which shows the workflow the AtomicUpdater supports
11:22 kivilahtio Joubu: I am rewriting our features now to atomicupdate, and hopefully soon I get some real-life experience on using that feature
11:22 kivilahtio Joubu: I finally managed to wrap it and document a bit :)
11:21 kivilahtio Joubu: we spoke about the atomicupdate improvement to keep track of which updates have been deployed
11:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database
11:21 kivilahtio Joubu: Bug 14698 - AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database
11:20 Francesca thanks
11:19 pastebot "cdickinson" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "index.php" (95 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58
11:16 cait I send a reminder this morning, we could send a follow up to this
11:16 drojf cait: i plan to be there and sign off a little, but may have a meeting somewhen in between
11:15 cait they didn't leave a note - maybe ask if you'd be willing to?
11:15 khall cait: should this be for people who have a Koha test system ready? Or I could do it via the sandboxes?
11:14 cait jajm: around?
11:14 cait maybe we could have a 'learn how to sign off' one?
11:14 khall yes, that's what I thought
11:13 cait khall: someone asked on help 'how to sign off'
11:13 cait drojf: if you could manage to be around for a bit answering questions that would already help
11:13 cait thursday - thx drojf
11:13 khall cait: what are you looking for a tutorial of? Testing and signing off?
11:13 cait itis
11:13 cait oh
11:13 drojf cait: sorry, not this time. several fights with bureaucracy this week and hopefully meeting a new library. no time to prepare anything. also i thought its on thursday?
11:12 khall cait: I can do one in the morning here, any time in the morning until 11 am EST ( start time of meetings ).
11:11 cait you all said at our initial irc meeting that you'd participate... so... no i am coming after you :)
11:10 wahanui hmmm... gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:10 cait gbsd?
11:10 cait GBSD is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:09 cait i had send an email to the list a while ago ;)
11:09 wahanui cait: I forgot gbsd
11:09 cait forget gbsd
11:09 wahanui gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-11-15_Global_bug_squashing_day
11:09 cait gbsd?
11:09 cait this wednesday
11:09 khall when and how?
11:08 cait and you too khall :)
11:08 cait drojf: can I recruit you for a tutorial on gbsd?
11:08 khall what's up?
11:08 cait khall: around?
10:42 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 31.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
10:42 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:40 drojf hi #koha
09:36 mveron hi magnuse :-)
09:36 magnuse hiya mveron
09:30 mveron Hi #koha
09:10 Francesca night #koha
09:09 Francesca right I should go to bed
09:09 Francesca lol
09:09 cdickinson drojf is not here to comment
09:07 wahanui :(
09:07 Francesca wahanui: bad bot
09:07 Francesca sad
09:07 Francesca awww
09:07 wahanui i think fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour
09:07 cdickinson wahanui: what is fun
09:05 Francesca fun fun
09:04 cdickinson the rest of tomorrow is going to be terrible
09:03 Francesca lol
09:03 cdickinson the only part I will enjoy is the energy drink that I will inevitably have
09:02 Francesca enjoy yourself
09:02 Francesca fun
09:02 cdickinson joy of joys
09:02 cdickinson I get the privilege of driving into town before 6am tomorrow morning to pick up my sister from the intercity bus platform
09:02 Francesca oh?
09:02 cdickinson it gets worse though
09:01 Francesca heh
09:01 cdickinson just gotta put it through the ringer, back and forth bugfixing, y'know
09:01 Francesca oh dear
09:01 Francesca hahahahahaha
09:00 cdickinson almost finished rewriting what I was rewriting
09:00 Francesca ok
09:00 cdickinson oh, no, I was talking about the actual Koha instances and stuff
09:00 Francesca I just need to implement changes and push them
09:00 Francesca thats working
09:00 Francesca you mean the webpage?
08:59 cdickinson going to get Koha as a Service working again tonight
08:59 Francesca so why calm before the storm?
08:59 cdickinson well, inside the project anyway
08:59 cdickinson nothing, yet
08:58 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
08:58 Francesca @wunder wlg
08:57 Francesca what else went wrong?
08:57 Francesca I got your tell later
08:57 Francesca what happened
08:57 Francesca oh w
08:56 cdickinson Francesca: the calm before the storm
08:56 Francesca hey cait :)
08:56 cait hi ashimema :)
08:56 cait hi Francesca :)
08:56 Francesca evening
08:06 * Viktor waves at cait
08:06 Viktor Kia ora magnuse
08:06 * cait waves at Viktor
08:05 magnuse kia ora Viktor
07:59 magnuse kia ora cait
07:59 cait good morning #koha
07:38 magnuse heh
07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 26.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
07:38 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse @wunder boo
07:38 magnuse bonjour le france!
07:27 gaetan_B hello
07:09 fridolin hie
07:09 dcook And lots of unnamed namespaces...
07:08 dcook Yeah, it's me being crazy
07:00 dcook And me being crazy
07:00 dcook Some sort of namespace issue I think
07:00 magnuse dcook: race condition?
06:55 * dcook sighs
06:55 dcook With 5 minutes until the end of the day
06:55 dcook I swear I'm doing the same thing twice in a row and getting different results...
06:55 * dcook twitches again
06:53 alex_a bonjour
06:47 * dcook twitches
06:42 dcook I really dislike that thing where you seem to fix something and then it doesn't work again 5 minutes later when you try the exact same thing again..
06:38 magnuse ncip! ncip! ncip!
06:26 reiveune hello
06:24 putti or not..
06:24 putti Oh, it was just old cookies
06:22 putti Anybody got this error after todays git pull: The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized ?
06:20 * dcook grumbles
06:15 dcook Actually that shouldn't cause me any grief..
06:15 dcook Or..
06:14 dcook But collection has it..
06:14 dcook As I expect "record" to have a MARC namespace
06:14 dcook Ahh, but it does cause me problems..
06:12 dcook It shouldn't really matter to much, as I'm prying the record out on its own
06:12 * dcook crosses his fingers
06:11 magnuse dcook: ah yeah, might be on purpose, then
06:09 pastebot "putti" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Check in Error 500" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/57
05:36 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
05:36 cait @later tell eythian do you want to add the elastic search bugs to the gbsd page?
05:35 cait reminder - gbsd on thursday!
05:31 dcook Other OAI-PMH servers I've seen don't use the collection wrapper
05:31 dcook So it's removal could be the fixing of a bug
05:30 dcook Well, I don't know why there would be a collection wrapper
05:30 magnuse dcook: if a collection wrapper has gone missing it sounds like a bug?
05:28 cait bye eythian
05:26 dcook If you added it and deleted it, you need to show you deleted it
05:26 dcook I suppose it's a record though
05:26 dcook I'm glad we have deleted record support with the OAI-PMH server, but it's a bit annoying if you delete and re-add records..
05:24 huginn cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
05:24 cdickinson @later tell Francesca http://paste.koha-community.org/56
05:24 pastebot "cdickinson" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "JavaScript fixes for the Koha as a Service page" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/56
05:22 * magnuse is all for eythian keeping his eyes firmly in his head
05:21 magnus_afk hiya putti
05:21 eythian (also because my eyes are about to fall out if I stare at a computer much longer.)
05:21 eythian think I'm going to leave now cait has shown up ;)
05:21 wahanui what's up, eythian
05:21 eythian hi
05:20 putti cait, hello to you too ! :)
05:20 putti magnus_afk, hi
05:20 cait hi #koha
05:20 * magnus_afk waves
05:13 dcook I am having breakfast at 3pm though.. that's not so bad
05:10 dcook I think I'm going to workaround that in a second and stop caring though..
05:10 dcook No idea why 3.14 is using a collection wrapper and master isn't though..
05:10 dcook Naturally
05:10 eythian of course it does
05:09 dcook Because the opac oai.pl uses the intranet prog...
05:09 dcook It's the intranet "prog"
05:09 dcook Worst Monday ever
05:09 dcook Ah wait... I'm just slow
05:08 eythian I'm sure they've actually been deleted
05:08 dcook O_o
05:08 dcook Well, only for outputting OAI DC it seems
05:08 eythian surely not
05:06 dcook It looks like the OAI-PMH server might still use the prog templates..
05:06 dcook Oh my...
05:05 eythian -a
05:04 eythian but you haven't had a your monday yet.
05:04 eythian you say that
05:04 putti Good morning1
05:01 eythian erg
05:00 dcook Now why the hell is the OAI-PMH metadata in 3.14 coming out wrapped in a collection while the OAI-PMH metadata coming out without it..
04:58 dcook That sucks :(
04:58 dcook Hmm, maybe not bad data per se... but perhaps the OAI-PMH server changed between 3.14 and master?
04:58 eythian my eyes are starting to get very tired as I need to replace my contacts, but I don't have any replacements right now.
04:57 eythian yeah, me too
04:57 dcook Yep, it's Monday
04:57 * dcook is a bit over everything today
04:57 dcook Looks like bad data coming out of Koha..
04:56 eythian yeah, it won't be that
04:55 dcook Nope..
04:54 dcook Oh I wonder..
04:48 dcook That moment when everything stops working inexplicably :S
02:20 Francesca bye rangi, eythian, wizzyrea
02:19 Francesca medical appointments loom
02:19 Francesca gotta go
02:19 Francesca anyways
02:19 cdickinson will do
02:19 Francesca just the first thing that came to my head
02:19 Francesca didn't mean to put login
02:19 Francesca cdickinson: take a look at that
02:19 pastebot "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "javascript login" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/55
02:08 Francesca they don't know
02:08 Francesca they're not in here
02:08 cdickinson don't need to give Stuff more reasons to generate clickbait
02:07 Francesca but imagine the headlines!
02:07 Francesca lots of damage done
02:07 Francesca that would be a bad thing
02:06 * wizzyrea lives near the airport, and does not want raining planes
02:05 cdickinson "it's raining planes." even with context...
02:05 Francesca http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/71582558/air-nz-joins-9-price-war-jetstar-announces-new-nz-routes ----> According to stuff it raining planes. But aw yeah cheep airfares ftw
02:04 Francesca thanks for the reminder eythian :)
02:02 eythian ids must always be unique, classes can be repeated
02:01 * Francesca facepalms
02:01 Francesca thanks guys
02:01 Francesca div has the same id
02:01 Francesca fail
02:01 Francesca ahh faik
02:00 cdickinson in the context of IDs though
02:00 Francesca hmm
02:00 rangi id are supposed to be unique
02:00 Francesca like email
02:00 Francesca but that applies to other fields as well
02:00 Francesca it is
02:00 cdickinson as in, the id you're using for that field might be used by something else on the page
01:59 Francesca what do you mean by duplicate though
01:59 Francesca nope no missing any quotes
01:59 cdickinson that's what I was just thinking about
01:59 eythian also, you're not missing a " or something that causes everything to mis-parse?
01:59 eythian it's not a duplicate id?
01:58 Francesca must be the weirdest ever error I've had on this webpage
01:57 Francesca anyone got any ideas as to why an input id on a form field would cause my css to break massively for that field?
01:56 cdickinson http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/182416/A-Collection-of-JavaScript-Gotchas
01:55 Francesca evil
01:54 cdickinson there are all sorts of gotchas with JavaScript
01:53 Francesca javascript is way to easy to break
01:18 wahanui Francesca: francesca =is= <reply> Francesca is a sleep deprived zombie|<reply> a defender of bots rights till the end of time|<reply> is waging a war against the video driver that continues to fail on her vm
01:18 Francesca literal francesca
01:15 wizzyrea that is really interesting eythian
01:12 cdickinson glad to know we are not the only ones standing for bots rights
01:10 Francesca lol
01:10 ibeardslee should be locked away until they are 21
01:04 eythian http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/artificial-intelligence/children-beating-up-robot <-- hellmonsters
01:03 Francesca bad laptop
01:02 Francesca weird
01:02 Francesca whah disconnected
01:00 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass|<reply> an extremely creepy stalker bot.... you have been warned|a parrot|<reply> wrong|<reply> on fire|<reply> gaining knowledge faster than sustainable|canadian|google...
01:00 cdickinson wahanui, you are a wise man
01:00 wahanui everything.
01:00 Francesca whats sup?
00:59 dcook yo
00:57 Francesca hey dcook
00:56 dcook hehe
00:55 eythian yeah right
00:54 Francesca http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/71589919/Sarcasm-is-the-highest-form-of-intelligence-researchers-say ---> So true
00:27 dcook hehe
00:27 eythian dcook: not at all, did you see that thing about the dog?!?!
00:03 dcook eythian: Slow news day? :p