Time Nick Message 00:03 dcook eythian: Slow news day? :p 00:27 eythian dcook: not at all, did you see that thing about the dog?!?! 00:27 dcook hehe 00:54 Francesca http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/71589919/Sarcasm-is-the-highest-form-of-intelligence-researchers-say ---> So true 00:55 eythian yeah right 00:56 dcook hehe 00:57 Francesca hey dcook 00:59 dcook yo 01:00 Francesca whats sup? 01:00 wahanui everything. 01:00 cdickinson wahanui, you are a wise man 01:00 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass|<reply> an extremely creepy stalker bot.... you have been warned|a parrot|<reply> wrong|<reply> on fire|<reply> gaining knowledge faster than sustainable|canadian|google... 01:02 Francesca whah disconnected 01:02 Francesca weird 01:03 Francesca bad laptop 01:04 eythian http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/artificial-intelligence/children-beating-up-robot <-- hellmonsters 01:10 ibeardslee should be locked away until they are 21 01:10 Francesca lol 01:12 cdickinson glad to know we are not the only ones standing for bots rights 01:15 wizzyrea that is really interesting eythian 01:18 Francesca literal francesca 01:18 wahanui Francesca: francesca =is= <reply> Francesca is a sleep deprived zombie|<reply> a defender of bots rights till the end of time|<reply> is waging a war against the video driver that continues to fail on her vm 01:53 Francesca javascript is way to easy to break 01:54 cdickinson there are all sorts of gotchas with JavaScript 01:55 Francesca evil 01:56 cdickinson http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/182416/A-Collection-of-JavaScript-Gotchas 01:57 Francesca anyone got any ideas as to why an input id on a form field would cause my css to break massively for that field? 01:58 Francesca must be the weirdest ever error I've had on this webpage 01:59 eythian it's not a duplicate id? 01:59 eythian also, you're not missing a " or something that causes everything to mis-parse? 01:59 cdickinson that's what I was just thinking about 01:59 Francesca nope no missing any quotes 01:59 Francesca what do you mean by duplicate though 02:00 cdickinson as in, the id you're using for that field might be used by something else on the page 02:00 Francesca it is 02:00 Francesca but that applies to other fields as well 02:00 Francesca like email 02:00 rangi id are supposed to be unique 02:00 Francesca hmm 02:00 cdickinson in the context of IDs though 02:01 Francesca ahh faik 02:01 Francesca fail 02:01 Francesca div has the same id 02:01 Francesca thanks guys 02:01 * Francesca facepalms 02:02 eythian ids must always be unique, classes can be repeated 02:04 Francesca thanks for the reminder eythian :) 02:05 Francesca http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/71582558/air-nz-joins-9-price-war-jetstar-announces-new-nz-routes ----> According to stuff it raining planes. But aw yeah cheep airfares ftw 02:05 cdickinson "it's raining planes." even with context... 02:06 * wizzyrea lives near the airport, and does not want raining planes 02:07 Francesca that would be a bad thing 02:07 Francesca lots of damage done 02:07 Francesca but imagine the headlines! 02:08 cdickinson don't need to give Stuff more reasons to generate clickbait 02:08 Francesca they're not in here 02:08 Francesca they don't know 02:19 pastebot "Francesca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "javascript login" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/55 02:19 Francesca cdickinson: take a look at that 02:19 Francesca didn't mean to put login 02:19 Francesca just the first thing that came to my head 02:19 cdickinson will do 02:19 Francesca anyways 02:19 Francesca gotta go 02:19 Francesca medical appointments loom 02:20 Francesca bye rangi, eythian, wizzyrea 04:48 dcook That moment when everything stops working inexplicably :S 04:54 dcook Oh I wonder.. 04:55 dcook Nope.. 04:56 eythian yeah, it won't be that 04:57 dcook Looks like bad data coming out of Koha.. 04:57 * dcook is a bit over everything today 04:57 dcook Yep, it's Monday 04:57 eythian yeah, me too 04:58 eythian my eyes are starting to get very tired as I need to replace my contacts, but I don't have any replacements right now. 04:58 dcook Hmm, maybe not bad data per se... but perhaps the OAI-PMH server changed between 3.14 and master? 04:58 dcook That sucks :( 05:00 dcook Now why the hell is the OAI-PMH metadata in 3.14 coming out wrapped in a collection while the OAI-PMH metadata coming out without it.. 05:01 eythian erg 05:04 putti Good morning1 05:04 eythian you say that 05:04 eythian but you haven't had a your monday yet. 05:05 eythian -a 05:06 dcook Oh my... 05:06 dcook It looks like the OAI-PMH server might still use the prog templates.. 05:08 eythian surely not 05:08 dcook Well, only for outputting OAI DC it seems 05:08 dcook O_o 05:08 eythian I'm sure they've actually been deleted 05:09 dcook Ah wait... I'm just slow 05:09 dcook Worst Monday ever 05:09 dcook It's the intranet "prog" 05:09 dcook Because the opac oai.pl uses the intranet prog... 05:10 eythian of course it does 05:10 dcook Naturally 05:10 dcook No idea why 3.14 is using a collection wrapper and master isn't though.. 05:10 dcook I think I'm going to workaround that in a second and stop caring though.. 05:13 dcook I am having breakfast at 3pm though.. that's not so bad 05:20 * magnus_afk waves 05:20 cait hi #koha 05:20 putti magnus_afk, hi 05:20 putti cait, hello to you too ! :) 05:21 eythian hi 05:21 wahanui what's up, eythian 05:21 eythian think I'm going to leave now cait has shown up ;) 05:21 eythian (also because my eyes are about to fall out if I stare at a computer much longer.) 05:21 magnus_afk hiya putti 05:22 * magnuse is all for eythian keeping his eyes firmly in his head 05:24 pastebot "cdickinson" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "JavaScript fixes for the Koha as a Service page" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/56 05:24 cdickinson @later tell Francesca http://paste.koha-community.org/56 05:24 huginn cdickinson: The operation succeeded. 05:26 dcook I'm glad we have deleted record support with the OAI-PMH server, but it's a bit annoying if you delete and re-add records.. 05:26 dcook I suppose it's a record though 05:26 dcook If you added it and deleted it, you need to show you deleted it 05:28 cait bye eythian 05:30 magnuse dcook: if a collection wrapper has gone missing it sounds like a bug? 05:30 dcook Well, I don't know why there would be a collection wrapper 05:31 dcook So it's removal could be the fixing of a bug 05:31 dcook Other OAI-PMH servers I've seen don't use the collection wrapper 05:35 cait reminder - gbsd on thursday! 05:36 cait @later tell eythian do you want to add the elastic search bugs to the gbsd page? 05:36 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 06:09 pastebot "putti" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Check in Error 500" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/57 06:11 magnuse dcook: ah yeah, might be on purpose, then 06:12 * dcook crosses his fingers 06:12 dcook It shouldn't really matter to much, as I'm prying the record out on its own 06:14 dcook Ahh, but it does cause me problems.. 06:14 dcook As I expect "record" to have a MARC namespace 06:14 dcook But collection has it.. 06:15 dcook Or.. 06:15 dcook Actually that shouldn't cause me any grief.. 06:20 * dcook grumbles 06:22 putti Anybody got this error after todays git pull: The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized ? 06:24 putti Oh, it was just old cookies 06:24 putti or not.. 06:26 reiveune hello 06:38 magnuse ncip! ncip! ncip! 06:42 dcook I really dislike that thing where you seem to fix something and then it doesn't work again 5 minutes later when you try the exact same thing again.. 06:47 * dcook twitches 06:53 alex_a bonjour 06:55 * dcook twitches again 06:55 dcook I swear I'm doing the same thing twice in a row and getting different results... 06:55 dcook With 5 minutes until the end of the day 06:55 * dcook sighs 07:00 magnuse dcook: race condition? 07:00 dcook Some sort of namespace issue I think 07:00 dcook And me being crazy 07:08 dcook Yeah, it's me being crazy 07:09 dcook And lots of unnamed namespaces... 07:09 fridolin hie 07:27 gaetan_B hello 07:38 magnuse bonjour le france! 07:38 magnuse @wunder boo 07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:38 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 26.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 07:38 magnuse heh 07:59 cait good morning #koha 07:59 magnuse kia ora cait 08:05 magnuse kia ora Viktor 08:06 * cait waves at Viktor 08:06 Viktor Kia ora magnuse 08:06 * Viktor waves at cait 08:56 Francesca evening 08:56 cait hi Francesca :) 08:56 cait hi ashimema :) 08:56 Francesca hey cait :) 08:56 cdickinson Francesca: the calm before the storm 08:57 Francesca oh w 08:57 Francesca what happened 08:57 Francesca I got your tell later 08:57 Francesca what else went wrong? 08:58 Francesca @wunder wlg 08:58 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 08:59 cdickinson nothing, yet 08:59 cdickinson well, inside the project anyway 08:59 Francesca so why calm before the storm? 08:59 cdickinson going to get Koha as a Service working again tonight 09:00 Francesca you mean the webpage? 09:00 Francesca thats working 09:00 Francesca I just need to implement changes and push them 09:00 cdickinson oh, no, I was talking about the actual Koha instances and stuff 09:00 Francesca ok 09:00 cdickinson almost finished rewriting what I was rewriting 09:01 Francesca hahahahahaha 09:01 Francesca oh dear 09:01 cdickinson just gotta put it through the ringer, back and forth bugfixing, y'know 09:01 Francesca heh 09:02 cdickinson it gets worse though 09:02 Francesca oh? 09:02 cdickinson I get the privilege of driving into town before 6am tomorrow morning to pick up my sister from the intercity bus platform 09:02 cdickinson joy of joys 09:02 Francesca fun 09:02 Francesca enjoy yourself 09:03 cdickinson the only part I will enjoy is the energy drink that I will inevitably have 09:03 Francesca lol 09:04 cdickinson the rest of tomorrow is going to be terrible 09:05 Francesca fun fun 09:07 cdickinson wahanui: what is fun 09:07 wahanui i think fun is over, i'm switching back to drojf's usual tl:dr behaviour 09:07 Francesca awww 09:07 Francesca sad 09:07 Francesca wahanui: bad bot 09:07 wahanui :( 09:09 cdickinson drojf is not here to comment 09:09 Francesca lol 09:09 Francesca right I should go to bed 09:10 Francesca night #koha 09:30 mveron Hi #koha 09:36 magnuse hiya mveron 09:36 mveron hi magnuse :-) 10:40 drojf hi #koha 10:42 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:42 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 31.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 11:08 cait khall: around? 11:08 khall what's up? 11:08 cait drojf: can I recruit you for a tutorial on gbsd? 11:08 cait and you too khall :) 11:09 khall when and how? 11:09 cait this wednesday 11:09 cait gbsd? 11:09 wahanui gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-11-15_Global_bug_squashing_day 11:09 cait forget gbsd 11:09 wahanui cait: I forgot gbsd 11:09 cait i had send an email to the list a while ago ;) 11:10 cait GBSD is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day 11:10 cait gbsd? 11:10 wahanui hmmm... gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day 11:11 cait you all said at our initial irc meeting that you'd participate... so... no i am coming after you :) 11:12 khall cait: I can do one in the morning here, any time in the morning until 11 am EST ( start time of meetings ). 11:13 drojf cait: sorry, not this time. several fights with bureaucracy this week and hopefully meeting a new library. no time to prepare anything. also i thought its on thursday? 11:13 cait oh 11:13 cait itis 11:13 khall cait: what are you looking for a tutorial of? Testing and signing off? 11:13 cait thursday - thx drojf 11:13 cait drojf: if you could manage to be around for a bit answering questions that would already help 11:13 cait khall: someone asked on help 'how to sign off' 11:14 khall yes, that's what I thought 11:14 cait maybe we could have a 'learn how to sign off' one? 11:14 cait jajm: around? 11:15 khall cait: should this be for people who have a Koha test system ready? Or I could do it via the sandboxes? 11:15 cait they didn't leave a note - maybe ask if you'd be willing to? 11:16 drojf cait: i plan to be there and sign off a little, but may have a meeting somewhen in between 11:16 cait I send a reminder this morning, we could send a follow up to this 11:19 pastebot "cdickinson" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "index.php" (95 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58 11:20 Francesca thanks 11:21 kivilahtio Joubu: Bug 14698 - AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database 11:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , AtomicUpdater - Keeps track of which updates have been applied to a database 11:21 kivilahtio Joubu: we spoke about the atomicupdate improvement to keep track of which updates have been deployed 11:22 kivilahtio Joubu: I finally managed to wrap it and document a bit :) 11:22 kivilahtio Joubu: I am rewriting our features now to atomicupdate, and hopefully soon I get some real-life experience on using that feature 11:23 kivilahtio Joubu: There is also a nice LibreOffice Impress presentation which shows the workflow the AtomicUpdater supports 11:23 kivilahtio Joubu: I hope this is something which can help BibLibre to manage their workflows 11:28 jajm cait, hi :) 11:30 cait hi jajm :) are you in charge of the biblibre sandboxes now? 11:31 cait if yes, was wondering if you'd be around on thursday 11:31 cait and which ones are currently not available maybe, because locked for testing or so 11:31 jajm cait, not really, but i'll be around with alex_a_ on thursday ;) 11:34 jajm cait, i don't have the complete lists of locked sandboxes but they display a message when they are (example: http://pro.test17.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/sandbox.pl) 11:36 cait jajm: ok thx - should we add the taxes patches to the testing list? 11:36 cait gbsd? 11:36 wahanui gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-09-03_Global_bug_squashing_day 11:43 jajm cait, what is this list for ? 11:44 cait giving ideas on what to test 11:44 cait or waht to work on 11:46 jajm so yes, it can't harm to add this bug :) 11:47 cait coudl you do it? 11:50 jajm of course 11:53 jajm ... if i remember my wiki username :) 12:02 jajm cait, the "tax rewrite" patches are already signed off, should i add them to the gbsd list anyway ? 12:12 magnuse hiya Arve_S 12:20 drojf if i use a slash in the authorized value code (not category), will it explode? 12:30 cait drojf: i wouldn't do it :) 12:32 drojf that was my feeling too ;) 12:45 tcohen morning #koha! 12:45 alex_a_ Does anyone kown why Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy is a required dependency now ? 12:46 cait morning tcohen 12:46 alex_a_ hello tcohen 12:46 tcohen @later tell eythian i'm talking to fredericd about this, thanks for taking care 12:46 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:46 tcohen hi alex_a_ 12:46 * druthb waves to cait and tcohen and drojf 12:46 tcohen hey druthb 12:47 tcohen how are u doing? 12:47 druthb decent. briskly busy, but doing okay. 12:48 tcohen hi kivilahtio 12:48 tcohen we missed you around :-D 12:48 kivilahtio tcohen: yeah I heard 12:48 kivilahtio tcohen: too bad I was renovating our kitchen. From floor to ceiling 12:49 kivilahtio need to go continue in a bit 12:50 tcohen enjoy :-D 12:51 tcohen kivilahtio: would you coordinate with Jonathan to find a middle road for organizing exception definitions? 12:51 kivilahtio tcohen: certainly! 12:51 wahanui certainly is probably confusing.. thanks for bringing ashimema's attention to it. 12:52 ashimema huh? 12:53 kivilahtio haha 12:54 kivilahtio tcohen: ashimema: I made a presentation for you! http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=42113 12:57 putti Can someone take a look at the bug 14755, please. 12:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14755 critical, P3, ---, j.kylmala, NEW , Checking in gives error 500 13:00 tcohen putti: i don't see the error in master 13:00 putti I knew it :D 13:01 tcohen i'll try with a real barcode :-P 13:01 putti But something triggered the error after the upgrade.. 13:02 mveron putti: I can not reproduce 14755 13:03 putti Does the log file I attached give any clue why it might have caused 13:13 putti Ok. Now I was able to reproduce it. 13:13 putti First the error happens only with records that I imported with the batch import tool 13:16 mveron putti: Can you edit the item(s)? - Do they have a valid item type? 13:17 putti mveron, wait, just deleted again my database... Might take a while to import those files again 13:17 putti *items 13:19 putti Now I get this error again, after I login: The format you asked for ('') is unrecognized. 13:25 mveron putti: This message comes from C4/Dates.pm sub _recognize_format($) 13:26 putti at /home/putti/kohaclone/C4/NewsChannels.pm line 212. 13:26 putti The login worked first, but then I deleted the whole database and I got this error. 13:30 druthb @wunder konstanz 13:30 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 32.0°C (3:00 PM CEST on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 13:30 druthb @wunder 77098 13:30 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 24.8°C (8:29 AM CDT on August 31, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 13:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11190: (QA followup) for tests on jenkins <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9bf6846bb6e7c0e95f837b08a1dacf849baffed> 13:36 Raj HI 13:38 pastebot "putti" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sysprefs.sql ERROR 1064 (42000" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59 13:38 tcohen hi cait 13:40 putti mveron, it is missing a comma 13:47 putti It is commit d1c41cda5bd4e1c36fd785015d08d21f6398430a which caused (at least partly) but previously it has been in the same way.. so that's weird. Maybe some other commit made koha more nitpicky about the syntax. 13:48 putti tcohen, ^ 13:51 tcohen putti: ah! how did the QA people miss that? 13:52 putti I dunno :D 13:53 putti tcohen, do you have also any idea of why imported items cannot be checked in anymore? 13:54 tcohen putti: i don't, probably we are letting you inject incomplete item data 13:54 putti tcohen, or was there some changes to importing/checking in in the last few days 13:54 tcohen putti: I don't think so 13:54 putti tcohen, well that is true, I'm not sure if I did a bug report already about some other data which can be imported and then everything goes wrong. 13:56 tcohen there should at least be a warning 13:56 putti yeah 13:59 tcohen putti: that happens a lot in Koha. It happens a lot less than before (there are some obsessive people here trying to reach perfection regarding user experience) and bugs + patches are really welcome. Solutions are generally trivial, but we need people spotting the problems to fill the bugs 14:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13697: (QA followup) fix typo in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=208400fff2d83836d0c4e068d63b04189ff5d0e8> 14:11 putti tcohen, alright. btw that comma fix now fixed also the check in functionality! :) 14:12 tcohen :-P 14:13 putti tcohen, oh no, it didn't :/ 14:13 putti I think the problem was fixed by "editing" the record without editing it and the saving it 14:13 tcohen yeah, you are probably missing mandatory data 14:14 tcohen please, try to reproduce and insert 14:14 tcohen use Data::Printer; warn p($item_object) or something like that on the controller script 14:14 tcohen for each thing you suspect is responsible 14:15 tcohen i.e. debug it and come back 14:15 tcohen maybe we can discuss a proper solution 14:15 putti tcohen, yup! 14:55 putti has someone analyzed why and in which parts manage-marc-import.pl takes much resources when importing records? 15:01 reiveune bye 15:03 xeugene Hello Guys 15:11 fridolin see u 15:27 tcohen jajm: good job, where is the code being put? 15:27 tcohen (during install) 15:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11584: (QA followup) add missing newline at end of YAML file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6256eac2f672c9ef4e8ec63bfe952af34051d9df> 16:13 gaetan_B bye 17:38 Malumfashee please anyone online to help 17:39 Malumfashee hello! 21:33 tsk i need to know in acq global system preferences in option AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceiptIsCancelled & AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived what option one should enter there 22:24 eythian hi 22:30 bag hey eythian 22:30 wahanui rumour has it eythian is an expert bot trainer 23:23 wizzyrea hi 23:26 * dcook waves 23:26 eythian wahanui: weasel is actually the "least weasel" 23:26 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:26 eythian seriously, look it up 23:26 dcook O_o 23:26 pianohacker dcook: by the way, 13-week-belated congratulations! 23:27 dcook Oh, thanks :) 23:27 dcook Much appreciated pianohacker 23:40 * Francesca waves 23:51 pianohacker @seen Joubu 23:51 huginn pianohacker: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 7 hours, 44 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Joubu> ;)