Time Nick Message 22:17 bag hi tcohen 21:21 tcohen hi 18:58 tcohen have a nice weekend #koha 18:58 tcohen bye everyone 18:45 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:45 tcohen @later tell eythian could you please provide updated packages for master? it is time to try the new plack-related scripts 18:19 tcohen magnuse: i'm basing it on debian/jessie64 vagrant box 16:40 pianohacker_DND Joubu: apply.whitespace, maybe, but definitely not core.whitespace - then git diff --check stops working! 16:06 Joubu ;) 16:06 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:06 Joubu @later tell putti "You should remove the recommendation to put that line to gitconfig also in wiki" 16:04 putti We should remove the recommendation to put that line to gitconfig also in wiki 16:03 putti Joubu, removed those whitespace things and now it shows the red spaces 16:02 tcohen jajm: if eythian builds master packages soon, we will be able to test the REST api using kohadevbox easily 16:02 Joubu Have to go too, have a good w-e #koha 16:02 putti I will 16:02 Joubu I don't have any occurrence of whitespace in my git config, try and remove them 16:02 putti Weird problem.. but need to go now! Bye :) 16:00 putti git reset --hard origin/master; git bz apply 13961; git show HEAD; didn't show O.o 15:59 putti can those do something? 15:59 putti git config --global apply.whitespace fix 15:59 putti git config --global core.whitespace trailing-space,space-before-tab 15:59 Joubu it will show you 15:58 Joubu git reset --hard origin/master; git bz apply 13961; git show HEAD; 15:58 putti Why my git doesn't do that :( 15:56 Joubu tig shows me "+ " 15:56 Joubu `git show HEAD` shows me a 4 red spaces 15:55 putti :-) 15:55 putti git diff = tig diff 15:54 Joubu I don't understand your "git diff" 15:54 putti format-patch might have a bug... 15:54 putti No but this is weird because with git diff it doesn't show 15:54 Joubu that does not matter, it can happen to anyone you know :p 15:53 Joubu my git diff does not show anything, everything is commited 15:52 putti Joubu, but does your git diff show it? 15:51 Joubu putti: I confirm, your patch adds 4 spaces line 648 15:38 mveron brb 15:38 mveron putti: I do not know... 15:37 putti mveron, or is git diff cheating us 15:37 putti mveron, but how is it possible even if the commit didn't edit that line :D 15:36 mveron putti: The qa tools complained about the white space. I did a follow up to remove them. There where about 4 spaces in an line that otherwise is empty. 15:35 putti Was it from some other commit? 15:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13961 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Option to include patron's total amount of fines in notices 15:35 putti Can someone explain the whitespace here: bug 13961 15:34 Joubu putti: no :) use the github branch 15:33 putti I mean to be a one commit. 15:32 putti Joubu, can we rebase in 13618 some of the commits which add the .raws ? 15:29 Joubu de rien :) Sorry to have been so long to be understood 15:28 atheia Joubu: thanks for rubber-ducking though :-) 15:27 Joubu :) 15:27 atheia Right… going off this idea fast :-) 15:27 Joubu that's why they didn't create a blank AV 15:27 Joubu and you will have to create a pref, because some people would like to force their users to choose a value :) 15:26 atheia oh, now that's an option. 15:26 Joubu s/of/or 15:26 Joubu of you could... check if there is a blank. 15:26 atheia Yeah, I can see that this would fall down there. Probably not worth implementing. 15:25 atheia ah. Now I'm with you :-) 15:25 atheia s/'av-build-dropbox'/'av-build-dropbox.inc'/ 15:25 Joubu but the devs don't know if the users have a blank :p 15:24 atheia Right, so devs should only invoke [% PROCESS 'av-build-dropbox' ... 'blank' %] (or whatever the param will be) if they have no blank AV, but want to display a blank value to the end user. 15:22 Joubu If there is a blank entry, you will display it, in any case, with or without the param. So if the flag is set, you will have 2 blank entries 15:21 Joubu unless you want to create a new AV 15:21 Joubu hum, not sure there is a difference 15:20 atheia Joubu: so any code not passing the parameter will work as it does now. 15:20 atheia Joubu: Cool, so the default should be: don't add a blank, and if the param is passed to the .inc, then add a blank, selected value. 15:20 Joubu tcohen: that's why I have changed the status 15:19 Joubu atheia: OTOH it will be less adaptable 15:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn 15:19 tcohen Joubu: i forgot to re-do the updatedatabase.pl entry for bug 14598 15:18 Joubu atheia: IMO it's a good idea. The only issue will be with install where a blanck AV is already defined, they will get 2 blanks. 15:17 atheia Joubu: :-) Right, exactly: so I don't want to define a blank AV, but I want, in some cases to display a blank AV to the end user. 15:14 Joubu atheia: You won't if you don't have a blank AV defined 15:14 reiveune bye 15:12 atheia Joubu: Wait… I currently don't get any blank values in my authorised values select? 15:11 putti Joubu, It just took few minutes. 15:10 putti Joubu, hey now it works!! :) 15:10 Joubu How will you differ the 2 options? 15:10 Joubu atheia: so 2 blank entries in the select? :) 15:09 Joubu putti: maybe 15:09 atheia :-) 15:09 atheia maybe my use case is a bit niche… 15:09 atheia Joubu: ah, right: but then you have a blank authorised value in the db, I was thinking more if you need to display a list of authorised values, but you also want to display a blank option — i.e. you want to keep the db authorised values without a blank, but want to display a blank to the end user. 15:08 putti Joubu, is it the KohaAdminEmailAddress preference? 15:08 putti can I send the email address where the email is coming from? 15:08 Joubu putti: nothing to do, emails are sent using the sendmail cmd 15:07 putti How do I enable email in Koha after I have setup postfix succesfully? 15:06 Joubu click on add new AV, don't fill anything, click save. Done :) 15:06 Joubu atheia: yep, go on admin/authorised_values 15:05 atheia joubu: sorry — I don't quite follow; are you saying there is already a way to add an empty value to a authorized values <select>? 15:03 putti Joubu, okay, I'll look forward to do the bug report if it looks like we need it. 15:03 Joubu putti: no, only on sending basket/shelf 15:03 Joubu And I am sure some people did that, not to be forced to choose a value 15:02 Joubu atheia: it won't be too bad. But for instance, my bsort2 (used on memberentry) has already an empty value 15:01 putti I guess not. 15:01 putti but is it used in every single template in koha? 15:00 atheia joubu: cheers! 15:00 putti I didn't know that there was one 15:00 Joubu used in these page 15:00 Joubu putti: ha ok. So no :) because of the html2text filter 14:59 Joubu atheia: let me check 14:59 putti because someone can do xss 14:59 Joubu putti: I don't understand why it's a bug 14:59 putti yes. I'm going to open a new bug for that 14:58 Joubu If I have not put the .raw on them, someone would ask me why :) 14:58 Joubu +not* 14:58 Joubu If I have put the .raw on them, someone would ask me why :) 14:58 Joubu putti: it's what it does 14:55 atheia Can anyone see a reason why that would be bad? 14:55 atheia And I figure this could be generally useful — so I was playing with the idea of adding a parameter to av-build-dropbox.inc to allow for the "empty" element to be added. 14:54 atheia I've got a situation were it would be useful for a dropbox created from authorized values, to contain an "empty" element. 14:53 atheia I have a question about av-build-dropbox.inc: 14:53 atheia Hi kohites :-) 14:21 putti This bug could be just for doing it with the Template::Stash::AutoEscaping and keeping the functionality the same. 14:20 putti and things like barcodes... Or should we do another bug report for these? 14:19 putti Joubu, the latest patch in xss thingie: In online catalog: [% OPACBaseURL.raw %] I guess the url could be without the raw? 13:52 putti Joubu, because I add a test report ;-) 13:51 Joubu putti: you shouldn't have anything to do on attaching the patches. Why do you change the description of the patches? :) 13:49 tcohen so once i fixed the failing tests, XISBN service seems to fail on its own to make jenkins unhappy 13:49 putti yes 13:49 Joubu putti: don't you use git-bz? 13:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14337: Add 2 more tests to be complete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f0170668c628fb9119495891c67fe1358a93609> / Bug 14337: Fix conflict with bug 9809 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2844a8a5c8ae39a82a0d876a2d5ef02ca237089> / Bug 14337: AllowRenewalIfOtherItemsAvailable counts holdable not for loan items when... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p 13:37 cait sorry discussion- have to pay attention here 13:34 tcohen i'm about to push the wysiwyg html editor for the sysprefs patch 13:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13791: (QA followup) fix perlcritic warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9e24c8d4f2de5dd697a2d99c6e36cb59463920e> / Bug 11880: Select what has been selected before <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f0ff90360c21e5e24df9f455681b1bf4ae92031> / Bug 11880: Select the barcode index by default then searching for label items. <http://git.koha-community.org/git 13:33 Joubu on master: "a test", with the patches: "<a href="a test">test</a>" 13:33 Joubu if the comment contains "<a href="a test">test</a>" 13:32 Joubu on master: "my title", with the patches: "my title <test>" 13:32 Joubu cait: how should be displayed "my title <test>" when sending a cart by email? 13:27 * magnuse will 13:27 tcohen enjoy magnuse 13:27 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza 13:25 lari My library (using 3.16) is experiencing this problem described by pianohacker at http://ilbot2.kohaaloha.com/koha/2014-03-12#i_1404311 where invalid login at OPAC + page refresh produces broken page. I wonder how it was fixed? 13:24 tcohen it should 13:24 putti so now it passes? 13:24 tcohen but i'm puzzled why koha.psgi is not making it fail 13:24 tcohen it was missing use strict or use Modern::Perl 13:23 putti tcohen, what's the error? 13:18 cait i will try to think more about other odd things we might do 13:17 cait Joubu: exports and emails is the one that come to my mind 13:16 putti Cool! :) 13:15 Joubu no, details > edit details 13:15 Joubu putti: edit > edit details 13:15 putti Because now my comment went to the title of the attachment 13:15 putti Joubu, I guess I cannot change attachments name after it's in bugzilla (other than submitting it again)? 13:12 tcohen can anyone help me figure how to make 00-testcritic.t pass on debian/templates/plack.psgi 13:07 Joubu cait: and something else? 13:07 Joubu I will test the baskets and shelves export 13:06 Joubu putti: added 13:06 putti Found it. So much stuff there so it hid itself there 13:05 Joubu comment 49 13:05 Joubu putti: on the bug report 13:05 putti Joubu, btw I had to do some merging in order to apply the first signed-off patch.. I hope that's fine.. 13:04 putti Can you link it 13:04 putti Where's your branch on github 13:03 Joubu putti: I will add your signed-off-by lines to the patches of my branch 13:03 magnuse gmcharlt: you should probably give me negative karma 13:03 cait :P 13:02 magnuse ah, so they have spread to the rest of the world... 13:02 * cait blames eythian for corrupting magnuse 13:01 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 13:01 cait germs? 13:00 gmcharlt ;) 13:00 gmcharlt magnuse: you know... I'm not sure I can give karma for that pun... 12:59 magnuse gmcharlt: did you go to GERMany? 12:57 tcohen yeah, try to have some rest during the weekend, that always helps! 12:57 gmcharlt thanks! 12:56 cait feel better! 12:55 tcohen ouch 12:55 tcohen indeed :-D 12:55 gmcharlt the germs I came back home with... not so much :/ 12:55 cait he seemed quite busy on twitter :) 12:55 gmcharlt the vacation itself was great and super-geeky :) 12:55 tcohen gmcharlt: how was your vacation? 12:54 tcohen thanks galen 12:54 gmcharlt hi cait 12:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Passed QA , Syspref to not add a fee when a patron changes to a category with enrolment fee 12:54 gmcharlt tcohen: "charge a fee" 12:54 tcohen the syspref description for bug 13697 12:54 * cait waves at gmcharlt 12:54 * gmcharlt reads up 12:54 cait something like this? 12:54 cait charge a fee automatically when a patron changes to a another category? 12:54 tcohen gmcharlt: opinion? 12:53 tcohen "add a fee when a patron changes to a category" 12:53 cait in which context? 12:53 cait charge seems more specific 12:53 cait i think charge sounds better... but you are aware that i am german? :) 12:53 cait hm 12:53 tcohen cait: whould you say "add a fee" or is it "charge a fee"? 12:50 cait when we fixed their translatability 12:50 cait hm cart emails maybe? it's kind of weird magic going on there with TT and text 12:50 Joubu I don't think so 12:49 cait i am not sure how they are done, probably no TT involved 12:49 cait report exports i mean? 12:49 wahanui somebody said reports was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 12:49 cait reports? 12:49 cait hm what other places do we have that are non html 12:46 cait but iwill try to keep it in mind 12:46 cait can't test right now - still stuck with the windows laptop at the workshop 12:45 cait and in other places 12:45 cait we have alot of <> in corporate names still here 12:45 Joubu Could be added to the csv files also indeed (if you confirm the bug) 12:45 cait i have to... 12:44 Joubu didn't think about that... 12:44 cait Joubu: not really, was more thinking about weird charactrs in general.. like < in a title 12:44 putti so never mind :D 12:44 putti oh, and the syspref names are the same... 12:44 Joubu the other languages are not in the git repo 12:43 Joubu should we expect html tag in csv? 12:43 putti Joubu, oh, how about the other languages 12:43 cait the ones based on TT templates? 12:43 Joubu putti: actually it was a bit better: vim `grep -Ril SysPrefName **/*.tt **/*.inc | grep "\/en\/"` 12:43 cait should we check the csv exports and similar as well? 12:42 putti ok 12:41 cait guess we should keep the .raw in mind for documenation later :) 12:41 Joubu git grep SysPrefName 12:41 Joubu no 12:41 putti Did you use some script to add the .raws? 12:41 putti :D 12:41 Joubu with my keyboard? 12:41 Joubu how? 12:41 putti Joubu, ok.. but i was just asking how did you do this patch. 12:40 Joubu yes 12:40 putti Joubu, Are we talking about the patch "Specific for other prefs" ? 12:39 Joubu [% IF OPACMySummaryNote %][% Koha.Preference('OPACMySummaryNote').raw %][% END %] works great 12:39 Joubu [% SET OPACMySummaryNote = Koha.Preference('OPACMySummaryNote').raw %] didn't work 12:39 Joubu putti: the only change is in opac-user.tt 12:38 putti Joubu, it applied, and worked 12:38 putti tcohen, Good to hear that! 12:38 putti Well, hello! :) 12:38 tcohen tests failing has nothing to do with your commit 12:37 tcohen :-D 12:37 tcohen oh, hi Joonas 12:37 putti tcohen, Joonas 12:37 Joubu get* 12:37 putti Joubu, you don't it? 12:37 tcohen putti: what was your real life name? 12:37 Joubu putti: you should use the remote branch from my github account 12:37 Joubu putti: I don't it, it does not apply ? 12:33 putti Did you generated it or one by one basis? 12:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 12:33 putti Joubu, how did you do this patch: Bug 13618: Specific for other prefs ? 12:26 magnuse cait: that would be super awesome! 12:20 tcohen hi nengard 12:19 nengard morning magnuse and all 12:16 tcohen hi cait 12:16 cait hi tcohen :) 12:15 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <marcelr> this report should not have had so many patches 12:15 tcohen @seen marcelr 12:14 tcohen morning 12:14 cait but no guarantees :) 12:14 cait magnuse: i can ask how he finds out if something goes wrong 12:12 magnuse aka crazy cat lady ;-) 12:12 magnuse kia ora nengard 12:12 magnuse cait: better than nothing :-) 12:07 cait magnuse: i could ask my coworker - but not before monday :( 12:01 magnuse having trouble setting up koha and ldap - is there some way to get logging anywhere? 10:52 Joubu yes please :) 10:51 putti Joubu, oh I see you had already some discussion in the bug comments. Let mee see them first. 10:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 10:50 putti Joubu, what's the idea with this: Bug 13618: Remove html filters at the OPAC 09:51 cait seems to work well 09:50 cait lari: we also use a custom report for that - with the option to look only at the notices for a specific day 09:44 lari I see, I did not yet know about this :) Thanks magnuse 09:41 magnuse lari: don't think so, but you can create custom reports 09:40 lari Are there any other pages where staff members can view messages from message_queue other than members/notices.pl ? 09:26 * mveron will be back in teh afternoon 09:25 mveron marcelr: Ok, will wait and then do one follow-up 09:21 marcelr this report should not have had so many patches 09:21 * mveron has a meeting 09:21 marcelr just one followup please 09:21 mveron number 09:21 mveron I amended because I did not want to increase the nuber of patches ... But I will do follow-ups now. 09:19 marcelr easier to check 09:19 marcelr mveron: you could just add a follow-up for some small corrections 09:19 mveron :-) 09:19 mveron marcelr ++ 09:17 marcelr mveron++ 09:01 cait hi Viktor :) 08:55 cait :) 08:54 mveron Hi cait :-) 08:54 * cait waves at mveron 08:54 drojf yes, returning is the worst part of vacation 08:54 mveron drojf: I did, but I had a lot of work waiting for me... 08:53 drojf or did you never return from vacation? :) 08:53 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Bern-Belp, Switzerland is 23.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 08:53 mveron @wunder allschwil 08:53 drojf how are things in allschwil? 08:52 mveron drojf:yes, indeed... 08:51 drojf long time no see 08:51 mveron hi drojf :-) 08:51 drojf hi mveron :) 08:51 mveron Hi #koha 08:43 drojf meeting is on 9 september, right? i should prepare the voting thing somewhen 08:41 magnuse ah 08:40 drojf i know, i would have never heard of puffins otherwise ;) 08:40 * magnuse used to have three 08:40 * magnuse actually has a puffindog 08:40 magnuse nah, we use dogs to catch the puffins 08:40 drojf lol that's what i was thinking. that or puffins 08:39 magnuse drojf: yeah, if you go out into the woods and shout that, the moose will come flocking 08:38 andreashm haha 08:38 cait we got a break now - brb 08:38 cait heh, i am adding pressure by telling lots of people about it :) 08:38 drojf nice :) 08:37 andreashm hopefully october 08:37 andreashm it's coming 08:37 drojf andreashm: can you open source it for me? :) 08:37 drojf thanks :) 08:37 andreashm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQB5leXwQb0 08:37 andreashm ok course =) 08:36 cait andreashm: can you paste the link to the viola video for me? :) 08:36 drojf i bet that is norwegian to attract animals 08:36 andreashm hi drojf, magnuse! 08:35 magnuse ncip! ncip! ncip! 08:35 magnuse moin drojf 08:35 drojf hei magnuse 08:35 magnuse tjänare andreashm 08:35 drojf hi andreashm 08:33 * andreashm waves 08:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady). 08:04 magnuse @wunder boo 08:04 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Copenhagen, Denmark is 17.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 08:04 magnuse @wunder cph 08:04 cait in copenhagen 08:03 drojf or, where are you? :) 08:03 drojf instead of going where? 08:03 cait now i want to stay here 08:03 cait :( 08:01 drojf next week >30 again. this summer is crazy 08:01 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 08:00 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:00 drojf morning #koha 07:59 putti cait, which command is it ? 07:59 putti Can I edit all those comments seperately? 07:58 cait but it will generate multiple comments again for each one 07:58 cait you can do it in one command 07:56 putti with git bz can I attach many patches to one comment? 07:43 putti :-) 07:43 putti I was like it's not in the dependencies list, but then I realized that it is "the" bug 07:43 Joubu are! 07:42 Joubu putti: you want to test 13618, all the deps is in master, so just apply it 07:42 putti oh.. XD 07:42 wahanui ? why are you asking ? 07:42 Joubu putti: ? why what? 07:42 putti Why that? 07:41 Joubu on top of master 07:41 Joubu on to topmaster 07:41 Joubu just apply 13618 07:41 putti ok 07:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14418 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS Flaws in OPAC Interface 07:41 Joubu keep the deps, and don't apply it 07:41 putti bug 14418 is also in master 07:40 putti know* 07:39 putti or no, because it might go to some other branches? 07:39 putti Can we remove the dependency now? 07:39 putti Joubu, now I now why it says the patch is already applied: 14416 is already in master 07:37 Joubu usually the merge is quite easy: keep master and remove the html filters 07:36 putti hahah :D 07:36 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 07:36 putti interesting 07:36 putti Wait.. It says it has applied it already 07:35 putti should I do some merging myself :D 07:35 putti Joubu, I cannot apply 14416 because 3-way merge 07:35 * cait cheers putti on 07:31 Joubu yes 13 patches and there *are* bugs and so, more patches 07:30 Joubu putti: that whas not your fault :) 07:30 putti There's like ~13 patches 07:30 putti Ok, looks like lots of reviewing is gonna happen soon :D 07:29 Joubu putti: if the status is "Needs Signoff", yes it is :) 07:29 cait second day of the workshop here - now learning more about kuali ole 07:29 cait hi putti, magnuse and marcelr :) 07:28 magnuse wow 251 libraries in hea! 07:27 magnuse kia ora cait 07:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC 07:27 putti Joubu, bug 13618 ready for signing-off? 07:24 marcelr hi cait 07:24 putti cait, good morning :) 07:23 cait morning #koha 07:21 putti Heh, yesterday got my first patch to master :P But then after that got ~5 messages about build failing xD 07:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 07:18 Joubu @later tell rangi agout the 4.x version in HEA, you could ask a BibLibre guys to have a look in the DB directly and know some library details (last update, date of creation, etc.) 07:18 marcelr hi putti 07:18 putti Hello ! :) 07:17 Joubu Hello marcelr 07:17 marcelr bonjour Joubu 07:17 Joubu rangi: around? 07:17 Joubu hi 07:02 alex_a hi marcelr 07:01 magnuse hiya alex_a marcelr 06:58 marcelr hi magnuse and alex_a 06:56 wahanui niihau, alex_a 06:56 alex_a bonjour 06:50 magnuse lots of wind though 06:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 28, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Falling). 06:50 magnuse @wunder boo 06:49 * magnuse waves 06:44 reiveune salut marcelr 06:44 marcelr hi reiveune 06:38 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:38 reiveune hello 06:29 marcelr hi #koha 06:00 francesca bye #koha 04:09 francesca lol 03:59 wizzyrea this is a key to pretty much all online things. 03:58 eythian you'll soon learn it's not a requirement to read everything, or all you'll ever be doing is reading everything :) 03:53 * francesca needs to pay more attention to IRC 03:53 francesca just came back to an avalanche of messages 03:53 francesca woaaaaah 03:52 mtj .. he'd then take the item home, for himself :/ 03:52 mtj another friend told me that his co-worker would tell customers their items were broken... in the hope they wouldnt bother picking up the item from the store 03:50 wizzyrea on reflection, he probably should have made me go in there to demand the money, but I think he knew that they would hassle me and not him. 03:49 wizzyrea good guy my dad :) 03:49 wizzyrea something like "this is what you get for trying to cheat young women" 03:49 mtj yeap :/ 03:48 wizzyrea he went back to the shop, and made them pay him for the new alternator. 03:48 wizzyrea ...the alternator was fine. 03:48 wizzyrea he installed it in the parking lot, took the old one in to get a free alternator test 03:48 wizzyrea my dad said "well I can replace an alternator" so we went to the parts store and bought one 03:47 wizzyrea they told me it was bad, that I'd need a new one 03:47 wizzyrea yeah, I had a shop do the same with an alternator once 03:47 mtj i doubt whether the shop even looked at it 03:46 mtj ..turns out it just had a bad power supply :/ 03:45 mtj my brother 'fixed' it about 5 years later... by plugging in a random power supply into it?! 03:44 mtj i tragically had a laptop declared dead by a service shop 03:42 mtj lol eythian 03:41 eythian you probably were out of headlight fluid though 03:41 mtj dad made the manager inspect them, from the rubbish bin 03:41 wizzyrea I make myself laugh. 03:41 wizzyrea flubberwutzle. 03:40 wizzyrea ugh. 03:40 mtj my dad installed them, only a few months earlier 03:40 wizzyrea you can be like, no, I really just need a cam belt thanks. 03:40 wizzyrea so when they tell you your flubberwutzle is congulmerated 03:40 mtj ..having perfectly good brake hoses replaced, without consent 03:39 wizzyrea unless you go in having done your research 03:39 wizzyrea generalising wildly, women have a bad time at car repair shops. 03:38 mtj my sister has had similar experiences with car/auto shops too 03:38 wizzyrea bleh 03:38 mtj yeah, thats the one wiz 03:37 wizzyrea i.e. "this is not working, we'll replace your working one that came unplugged with a new one $500 please" sort of thing? 03:37 wizzyrea you mean like fraudulent part replacements 03:37 wizzyrea ew 03:29 mtj yep, and had friends that worked in laptop service companies 03:27 wizzyrea you must have experience with this? 03:25 mtj yeah.. the part may still be working 03:20 francesca does looking at it tell you something about what went wrong? 03:20 francesca what is the use in getting back the dead part? 03:20 francesca oh ok 03:18 * mtj adjusts tinfoil hat 03:17 mtj make sure you get the 'dead' part back from the shop, too 03:15 francesca it just stopped working 03:13 mtj curious... did you drop/bang it? or did it just stop working? 03:10 francesca its been in for repairs 03:10 francesca no my macbook pro display broke last week 03:10 mtj francesca, is it a new computer? 03:09 mtj nice one eythian++ 03:09 francesca yay! 03:09 francesca my computer is ready to be picked up 02:43 eythian > libswagger2-perl_0.31-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable, unstable 02:43 eythian for those that care about it: