Time  Nick              Message
23:58 mtj               ..then do a regex thru them
23:58 wizzyrea          mtj that is spectacular advice
23:58 mtj               wizzyrea, you can pinch the DOM files from new koha instance
23:55 wizzyrea          hi
23:51 francesca         heya
23:25 eythian           hi
22:32 wizzyrea          ah yeah, that's fair enough
22:32 wizzyrea          (and also fixes this, and it's similar bugs, long term)
22:31 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13618 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC
22:31 wizzyrea          especially with the work for bug 13618, which is really needed and necessary
22:31 cait              i haven't looked at this one yet - i am basically still reading bug mails from my week of vacation
22:31 cait              hm not sure
22:30 wizzyrea          well 3 solutions really
22:30 wizzyrea          okies, I was hoping maybe there was a better way but maybe on my way through I'll tidy up the wiki :)
22:29 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Can't delete patron with ' character in cardnumber
22:29 wizzyrea          oh, the other question was about bug 14691 - there are two solutions and we don't know which one to prefer
22:29 cait              http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing is the only thing we have right now i think
22:29 cait              because you need to edit files
22:29 cait              it is a bit messy
22:28 wizzyrea          my question was, is there a tidy/easy way to switch from grs1 to dom? I find the wiki really confusing
22:28 cait              what was the question?
22:28 cait              i saw your message at work, but lost it
22:27 cait              yep
22:25 wizzyrea          cait, about? I know "probably not" but just thought I'd check
21:53 jcamins           Your logs should give you actual evidence, though.
21:52 dan_              jcamins: it could be that..
21:49 jcamins           One unfounded guess: insufficient disk space.
21:49 jcamins           dan_: your server has been running successfully for several years, right? Once you figure out what changed between when it worked and when it didn't, you'll probably know what the problem is.
21:48 dan_              I have not done any upgrades of zebra. 2.0.59 was the only version used until now
21:46 dan_              is it necessary to update it to 2.0.60?
21:44 dan_              zebra server is v. 2.0.59
21:34 rangi             did you upgrade zebra or something? zebrasrv lives outside Koha, so I would look into if there are any known bugs with the version you have installed etc
21:30 rangi             what changed recently, to make zebrasrv start dying?
21:29 dan_              yes, it was standard (perl makefile.pl, make, make install, etc)
21:27 cait              how did you install koha? is it a standard install, packages?
21:27 dan_              fine, it's not supported, but could you help me giving some light about this (or somewhat similar) issue please?
21:25 cait              so not a lot of people are using it anymore
21:22 cait              3.8 is no longer maintained
21:22 cait              3.18 is the latest release
21:20 dan_              isn't the v 3.8 having 'official support' ? :)
21:18 cait              we are currently at 3.20
21:18 cait              3.8 is really old
21:15 dan_              I have no found related messages in zebra logs
21:14 dan_              v. 3.8
21:13 dan_              barton: I gave up with a similar problem with importing records by using the GUI. Instead, I used the ./koha/bin/commit_biblios_file.pl script
21:13 cait              what version are you running an dhow was koha installed?
21:13 cait              are there any error messages?
21:13 cait              hm, i haven't seen this
21:11 dan_              Hello guys, could someone help me plz? My server is undergoing sudden shutdowns of the zebrasrv process, do you people know about any causes of this?
21:07 barton            I find the way that stage-marc-import.pl works in master to be confusing ... clicking 'Upload file' gives you an 'Upload progress' bar, but it also blanks the file name and displays 'No file chosen' ... given that this was where I was last focused, my immediate thought was "wait! where did my file go!!???" ... If the progress bar gave me the file name of the file that was uploading, I would have been able to adjust. I think that's going to cau
20:18 cait              well... evneing
20:18 cait              morning
20:17 pianohacker       hi rangi
20:17 rangi             morning
19:13 tcohen            bye #koha
19:02 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12372: Updated man pages for koha-mysql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72372e389566442c5022959a567df24ea0a4034d> / Bug 12372: (QA followup) Standardized argument parsing for koha-mysql. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c30985920de7fc327ba653c538d6f57502d5a304> / Bug 12372: koha-mysql: process any mysql args <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi
17:22 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
17:22 magnuse           @wunder boo
16:27 huginn            druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 32.4°C (11:27 AM CDT on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
16:27 druthb            @wunder 77098
16:26 huginn            cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 17.8°C (6:26 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
16:26 cait              @wunder Konstanz
16:19 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13791: (QA followup) Plack support requires Apache 2.4.8+ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58b29655dda0ca4d4935a6b886a1a39d249a8780> / Bug 13791: tab-completion for koha-plack in bash <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76f3c5794c16385b629b70b123e935ef5eb0802e> / Bug 13791: make koha-common init script aware of plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
16:18 cait              hi #koha
16:15 tcohen            thanks wahanui, it is great to feel understood like this
16:15 tcohen            ok, lunch time
16:15 wahanui           i think confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
16:15 tcohen            confetti!
16:14 wahanui           somebody said confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
16:14 tcohen            confetti!
16:14 wahanui           o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:14 tcohen            confetti!
16:14 tcohen            it is done
16:13 Putti             :D
16:13 tcohen            nevermind
16:12 tcohen            :-P
16:12 tcohen            i just don't want to take responsibilities
16:12 tcohen            i'm about to push the plack patches
16:12 tcohen            nah
16:12 tcohen            hahahh
16:12 Joubu             done
16:12 Joubu             rm -Rf C4
16:12 Putti             autotyper?
16:11 tcohen            on my keyboard
16:11 tcohen            i need a volunteer to press the enter key
16:11 Joubu             see you #koha
15:31 sophie_m          bonsoir
15:07 reiveune          bye
14:50 Joubu             Hi tcohen!
14:50 tcohen            hi Joubu
14:31 putti             thanks !
14:30 putti             oh, works
14:30 Joubu             but it works with this template
14:29 Joubu             putti: the "email" template is used indeed
14:29 putti             maybe there is some system preference which needs to be enabled...
14:29 * Joubu           is trying
14:27 putti             ^ I cleared the db
14:27 putti             Joubu, well it still doesn't work..
14:22 putti             maybe when I did some crazy things in mysql it broke ...
14:20 Joubu             the template used is "print"
14:20 putti             I tried with quick slip
14:20 putti             yup
14:20 Joubu             Have you seen there are several slip notices?
14:20 Joubu             putti: using master?
14:19 putti             How do I change the text which goes to a slip? Now when I go to notices -> and then change some slips template it doesn't work and default to the one in database..
13:34 marcelr           have to go
13:33 marcelr           tcohen: step by step we add unit tests..
13:31 nengard           heh
13:30 tcohen            they would, if we had unit tests for all of the use cases, so they aren't
13:30 tcohen            they aren't :-P
13:28 nengard           um ...
13:27 marcelr           holds are fun ;)
13:27 tcohen            .-D
13:27 marcelr           and 14702 on top of that :)
13:27 marcelr           tcohen: thx for 14464, i now rebased 9809 on top of it
13:25 cait              hi tcohen
13:23 tcohen            hi cait
13:03 cait              aah
13:02 marcelr           it rains now
13:02 cait              yeah not too hot :)
13:02 marcelr           good timing also the weather
13:02 cait              but i had a really nice week in amsterdam :)
13:02 cait              hi marcel - back at work now
13:02 marcelr           hi cait
13:02 * cait            waves
12:54 khall             I'll put that in my queue marcelr!
12:54 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14702 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Refactor GetReserveFee
12:54 marcelr           khall: bug 14702 could use your signoff :)
12:46 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 22.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
12:46 magnuse           @wunder boo
12:32 druthb            Hot and soupy humid. Welcome to Houston in the "fall".
12:31 huginn            druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 25.8°C (7:31 AM CDT on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
12:31 druthb            @wunder 77098
12:31 huginn            druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 25.6°C (7:31 AM CDT on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:31 druthb            @wunder 77447
12:27 tcohen            Hei, magnuse
12:27 magnuse           ¡hola tcohen!
11:54 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 22.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
11:54 magnuse           @wunder boo
11:40 huginn            drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
11:40 drojf             @wunder berlin, germany
10:59 magnuse           Celsius :-)
10:55 putti             24 -- and the unit is ?
10:54 magnuse           supposed to hit 24 in ~3 hours
10:54 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
10:54 magnuse           @wunder boo
10:54 magnuse           putti: might be a little early for gmcharlt, perhaps
10:51 putti             gmcharlt, Hi! Did you got my email about MARC::FILE::XML? Not sure if you use the gmail address which I found..
10:38 huginn            cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 12.3°C (10:30 PM NZST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
10:38 cdickinson        @wunder lower hutt
10:13 drojf             ouch
10:12 eythian           doing database recovery from something that fell over
10:12 drojf             eythian: unusual time to see you online
10:08 drojf             i would like that kind of ticket, even though i hate them ;)
10:08 drojf             heh
10:07 eythian           dcook: yes, it is
10:07 eythian           http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/71385289/this-student-would-rather-live-on-trains-than-pay-rent <-- drojf, someone who shares your love of Deutsche Bahn
10:06 drojf             cait++
10:06 drojf             mveron++
10:05 drojf             it goes ;)
10:05 francesca         hows it going
10:05 francesca         heya drojf
10:05 drojf             hei magnuse and francesca
10:04 wahanui           hi, francesca
10:04 francesca         hello
10:04 magnuse           moin drojf
10:03 drojf             hi #koha
09:09 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14709 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The export tool is broken if used from the command line
09:09 Joubu             fyi the export tool is broken (from cmdline), see bug 14709 for a patch
08:55 magnuse           wheee
08:50 huginn            magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
08:49 magnuse           @wunder boo
07:28 putti             :P
07:28 magnuse           cait is Very Good at keeping the german folder in sync with en
07:27 magnuse           i know i need to go over the stuff in nb-NO and translate lots of things and add missing things
07:27 magnuse           yup, that is the way it is done
07:26 putti             Looks like most of the data in the other languages' folders are still in English. So should I fill the non-english folders data with english data? And then we will later translate them? :D
07:24 putti             I see!
07:23 magnuse           then e.g. i can translate the one in nb-NO in a followup
07:23 magnuse           there should be a copy in each of the language folders under installer/data/mysql/
07:23 putti             There is already a file in installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sample_notices.sql
07:22 magnuse           ah "Please include the new sample template in the installers for the other languages."
07:21 putti             cait's second last message, #3
07:21 huginn            04Bug 12224: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, Failed QA , Allow easy printing of patron check-in slip
07:21 putti             http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12224
07:20 magnuse           a file of sql?
07:20 magnuse           putti: what do you mean by "sample template"?
07:19 putti             how do I include a sample template to installer ?
07:09 huginn            dcook: The operation succeeded.
07:09 dcook             @later tell eythian Is Koha all right to run on Jessie now?
07:09 dcook             Finding the right firmware for the right kernel totally made my day
07:08 dcook             Hurray for the people at wireless.wiki.kernel.org: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
07:03 alex_a            hello marcelr
07:03 marcelr           and alex_a
07:03 alex_a            bonjour
07:03 sophie_m          hello marcelr
07:02 marcelr           hi sophie_m
07:01 sophie_m          hello #koha
07:01 marcelr           hi Joubu
06:57 Joubu             hello #koha
06:31 marcelr           hi #koha
06:30 reiveune          hello
05:47 magnuse           no rush, just curious :-)
05:47 magnuse           eythian: kewl!
05:46 eythian           magnuse: it's not had its status update changed to "pushed", so I guess it's an oversight. Probably be sorted tomorrow.
05:43 magnuse           it's fixed in 3.20 and 3.18
05:43 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14566 is not accessible.
05:43 magnuse           shouldn't we be able to see bug 14566 now?
05:18 * magnuse         waves
05:04 francesca         bye #koha
05:04 francesca         mtj++
04:57 mtj               ..i added it to the logo page
04:57 mtj               http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-egg.svg
04:50 francesca         yet
04:50 francesca         in other words he doesn't know how
04:47 cdickinson        "just", she's really helping me out by building it out. I'm a bit of a HTML-phobe
04:46 francesca         I'm just building it for him
04:46 francesca         (its his webpage)
04:46 cdickinson        yeah, thanks (I have a vested interest in this thing)
04:46 francesca         yay thankyou
04:46 mtj               transparent even
04:45 mtj               'transparant' color is set to cyan
04:45 francesca         just gotta find it and download it first
04:45 mtj               has a cyan background :)
04:45 francesca         yup am doing that
04:45 francesca         that is on an ordinary browser
04:44 eythian           put it on a green background
04:44 francesca         still mtj++
04:44 francesca         problem with white is that it can't be seen
04:44 francesca         um thanks I think
04:44 mtj               hey francesca -> http://gw1.kohaaloha.com/pub/kcon-white.svg
04:43 mtj               hm, 1 tic
04:41 francesca         mtj you are amazing
04:41 francesca         but I'll do it somehow
04:40 francesca         so not allowed to install inkscape
04:40 francesca         loaned to me by my brother
04:40 francesca         on a laptop
04:40 francesca         did I metion I'm currently on windows
04:40 mtj               ..then 'export to png'
04:40 francesca         (mtj++)
04:40 mtj               open it in inkscape, and 'bucketfill' it white
04:39 francesca         mtj huge ++
04:39 francesca         so won't show up
04:39 francesca         yeah we have a green header
04:39 francesca         I'll just download and photoshop white
04:39 mtj               heh, yeah... its... green :)
04:39 francesca         and almost the right colour
04:39 wahanui           logo is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation
04:39 wizzyrea          logo?
04:39 wizzyrea          you should put that on the wiki :)
04:39 francesca         ahh yay!
04:38 wizzyrea          mtj++
04:38 mtj               hey francesca -> http://gw1.kohaaloha.com/pub/kcon-green.svg
04:35 wizzyrea          :)
04:35 francesca         so I'll just chill on irc
04:35 francesca         don't think its happening
04:35 francesca         just trying to work out if I can get into town for a bit
04:32 francesca         lol
04:32 wizzyrea          but Tuesday
04:32 wizzyrea          Very much like Mondays.
04:32 wizzyrea          I am desperate to make a snarky reply here, but I'm not feeling very creative :)
04:29 francesca         hey wizzyrea what are tuesdays normally like?
04:29 francesca         tomorrow hopefully
04:26 wizzyrea          ah well you'll have your laptop back soon enough
04:15 francesca         theo won't let me install anything on his laptop
04:15 francesca         might have to wait a bit in that case
04:15 francesca         yup
04:14 wizzyrea          looking at it might tickle your memory, as that's probably what they taught at academy
04:14 wizzyrea          true - you'll probably want inkscape to work on that
04:14 francesca         you learn a new thing every day
04:14 francesca         ah well
04:13 francesca         but I cannot for the life of me remeber how I did it
04:13 francesca         for the dashboard
04:13 francesca         at the academy
04:13 francesca         yeah I've done this once before
04:13 cdickinson        aliasing will be a thing of the past
04:13 cdickinson        it'll be a good day when computing power catches up with vector graphic images like SVG
04:10 wizzyrea          or not easily, depending on your experience with svg files. but, it'd be a thing worth learning
04:09 wizzyrea          there's a vector version, you could probably pretty easily split out just the symbol part
04:08 francesca         cool I'll have a look at that
04:08 wahanui           okay, wizzyrea.
04:08 wizzyrea          logo is also http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation
04:08 wizzyrea          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation
04:07 wizzyrea          hm no. sec
04:07 wahanui           well, logo is included in the tm I believe
04:07 wizzyrea          logo?
04:07 wizzyrea          or something you could use to get it
04:07 wizzyrea          with it
04:07 wizzyrea          there might be a wiki page
04:07 francesca         hey if I wanted to get the logo (just the cool little image part not the word koha) how would I do it?
04:00 * francesca       spots dcook and waves
04:00 * eythian         points dcook to Jean Chrétien
04:00 wizzyrea          go go go
04:00 wizzyrea          easier to say it, but less hard to take seriously - it evens out
04:00 dcook             Ok, actually going to have lunch this time and not work...
04:00 dcook             *shameface*
03:59 dcook             You might forget to say please when you order the beer though
03:59 dcook             Well, not for me. I'm Canadian. We don't hurt feelings :p
03:59 dcook             Although it's also easier to say hurtful things sometimes :p
03:58 wizzyrea          it's harder to get hurt feelings :P
03:58 * dcook           thinks that wizzyrea is correct about beer being integral
03:58 * dcook           had the best debate in a while over beer the other day
03:54 * ghost_francesca decides to go with fonnt-family
03:53 ghost_francesca   that wasn't laughing
03:53 ghost_francesca   lol
03:53 cdickinson        says the guy who just coughed himself to death
03:53 cdickinson        I think that would be me
03:53 * francesca       dies laughing
03:52 * eythian         can't spell
03:52 eythian           *nieuw rather.
03:52 wizzyrea          A+
03:52 rangi             you must be new to the internet
03:52 wizzyrea          there wasn't beer, it can't be a debate
03:52 rangi             thats not even close to a debate
03:52 wizzyrea          ok yeah
03:52 wizzyrea          well kinda.
03:52 wizzyrea          hehe no
03:52 francesca         wow
03:52 francesca         over fonts?
03:52 francesca         actually cause a debate
03:52 eythian           because it'd be niew
03:52 rangi             ahh
03:52 francesca         did I just..
03:52 eythian           that'd be weird
03:51 wizzyrea          naw, helvetica neue is a thing
03:51 eythian           hmm
03:51 rangi             on the Neue
03:51 francesca         lol ok
03:51 rangi             im guessing your firefox is doing translation for you
03:51 wizzyrea          :) and mine from the website
03:51 eythian           I just copy pasted from what koha uses
03:51 rangi             his won't work anyway :)
03:50 * wizzyrea        shakes her fist at eythian
03:50 wizzyrea          naw, you can say "font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
03:50 eythian           font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;
03:50 francesca         have to pick one
03:50 wahanui           i heard the logo was included in the tm I believe
03:50 cdickinson        the logo?
03:49 francesca         right
03:49 wizzyrea          for the website
03:49 wizzyrea          Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
03:49 francesca         but across everything
03:49 francesca         uhh like on webpages
03:49 eythian           in what context?
03:49 francesca         if there is one
03:49 francesca         yo anyone know what the koha font is?
03:48 wizzyrea          (I did confirm, after some bug fixing, that 13618 does solve this [these] particular problems)
03:44 wizzyrea          it's important
03:44 wizzyrea          *nod* I wish I had a lot more time to spend on it
03:44 rangi             13618 is really needed, im glad there are a few people looking at it now
03:43 dcook             Totes
03:43 rangi             yeah
03:43 wizzyrea          so it's kinda just "for now"
03:43 wizzyrea          I hope
03:43 wizzyrea          either solution will be blown away by 13618
03:42 dcook             Mmm true enough..
03:42 rangi             weigh in on the list
03:42 rangi             and the people who just want to give an opinion but never contribute
03:42 dcook             wizzyrea and I have been talking about this for a while now I think
03:42 dcook             rangi: Are they? :p
03:42 rangi             the people who care, are on irc
03:42 rangi             the list is not a good place for those questions i think
03:42 huginn            wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:42 wizzyrea          @later tell tcohen we have two solutions for bug 14691, given the work being done on 13618, do you have a preference as to solution there?
03:41 wizzyrea          oh, should pose same to tcohen I guess
03:41 dcook             hehe
03:41 wizzyrea          ask the boss ;)
03:41 dcook             That's thinking with your head :D
03:41 dcook             There we go
03:41 huginn            wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:41 wizzyrea          @later tell cait we have two solutions for bug 14691, given the work being done on 13618, do you have a preference as to solution there?
03:41 dcook             Which seems weird... as the developer has known about the problem for a while
03:40 dcook             2.26 is buggy at the moment it seems...
03:40 dcook             Not that loading it is particularly heavy I think
03:40 dcook             Use "uri_escape" or whatever in the template without loading the plugin
03:40 dcook             A simpler way of doing mine would probably be to add the function in C4::Template under the FILTERS configuration
03:39 dcook             Fair enough
03:39 dcook             hehe
03:39 wizzyrea          and it'll never get fixed :)
03:39 wizzyrea          that we'll get a 3rd, 4th, 5th solution
03:39 wizzyrea          yeah in the serial note
03:39 dcook             Afraid?
03:39 wizzyrea          lol
03:38 dcook             I think I noticed another place you'd found it as well
03:38 wizzyrea          i'm afraid.
03:38 dcook             I'm sure this will come up in other places
03:38 dcook             Maybe we should put it to the dev list?
03:37 dcook             Me either
03:37 wizzyrea          idk what's better
03:37 dcook             Yep :/
03:37 wizzyrea          my way is simpler, but your way is more complete
03:37 wizzyrea          man, bugs like that never go anywhere we should decide lol.
03:37 dcook             Now we just need another person to test and make a choice I guess?
03:36 dcook             So long as it's fixed, it's all good to me
03:36 dcook             Me either :)
03:36 dcook             Plus it catches all sorts of other characters besides just the single quote
03:36 wizzyrea          I don't have a particular feeling either way
03:36 dcook             It might need to be removed down the road, but it would probably be easier to grep and remove than the replace I would think
03:35 dcook             I thought about that a bit.
03:35 wizzyrea          and it would need to be removed again (I think...)
03:35 wizzyrea          is it worth adding a plugin when the other bug will fix it without it
03:35 dcook             Mhm?
03:35 wahanui           one question is whether anybody cares to make a committment to revise the schema to match
03:35 wizzyrea          one question
03:35 wizzyrea          :) I did notice
03:34 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Can't delete patron with ' character in cardnumber
03:34 dcook             Btw, wizzyrea, I attached an alternate patch on bug 14691, if you didn't notice from the bugzilla spam I was generating
03:34 * eythian         puts that in the "not my problem" basket
03:34 wizzyrea          bad records are bad.
03:34 wizzyrea          yes. I was noticing
03:33 eythian           I also can't sanitise them because then they'll fail to search correctly.
03:33 eythian           Smith, Malcolm.
03:33 eythian           Smith, Malcolm
03:33 eythian           e.g
03:33 eythian           this browse stuff is going to get a lot of people complaining because they have bad records
03:11 francesca         lol
03:11 cdickinson        that is somehow fitting in this situation
03:09 huginn            wizzyrea: Quote #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" (added by ricardo at 02:00 PM, October 07, 2009)
03:09 wizzyrea          @quote random
03:09 francesca         maybe wahanui's been teaching him
03:08 huginn            francesca: I've exhausted my database of quotes
03:08 francesca         huginn has spunk after al
03:08 francesca         did I just witness
03:08 francesca         what
03:08 francesca         whaaaaay
03:08 huginn            BobB: The current temperature in Rosebery, Rosebery, New South Wales is 15.5°C (1:05 PM AEST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
03:08 BobB              @wunder Sydney, New South Wales
03:08 cdickinson        ninja'd
03:08 huginn            BobB: I suck
03:08 huginn            cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 13.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
03:08 BobB              @wunder, Sydney, Australia
03:08 cdickinson        @wunder lower hutt
03:07 BobB              me too :)
03:07 francesca         lol
03:07 wizzyrea          FUNNY
03:07 cdickinson        funny, that's where I live :P
03:06 wizzyrea          not where I live ^.^
03:06 wizzyrea          in the Hutt, yeah
03:06 cdickinson        there is frost and dew and chills
03:06 francesca         and if there is no sun?
03:06 wizzyrea          if you're in the sun, all bets are off.
03:06 huginn            francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on August 24, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
03:06 francesca         @wunder wlg
03:06 wizzyrea          cdickinson: only when you're in the shade.
03:06 francesca         I agree
03:05 francesca         acutally scratch that
03:05 francesca         oh?
03:05 cdickinson        god, it gets way colder here than the temperature reading says it does
03:05 wizzyrea          my definition of mild weather has definitely changed.
03:05 francesca         lol nope
03:05 cdickinson        I feel like people don't understand Wellington weather until they get here
03:05 francesca         lol
03:05 wizzyrea          well, those were probably mild by wellington standards
03:05 francesca         BobB - maybe wellington just puts on its nice weather for you?
03:04 wizzyrea          hm, I remember kohacon being a couple of fine days, and a couple of horrid wet rainy ones
03:04 francesca         it's always windy in brooklyn as well
03:04 BobB              and KohaCon 2010 - same!
03:04 BobB              Linux Conf 2009 ish - a week of lovely weather
03:04 wizzyrea          it's always windy in kilbirnie :P
03:03 francesca         and I live here
03:03 francesca         I don't believe it
03:03 francesca         and sunny?
03:03 francesca         mild?
03:03 wahanui           wellington is probably lucky, we have a lot of indian restaurants
03:03 francesca         wellington?
03:02 eythian           it's windy and mild today
03:02 BobB              (that is my experience)  :)
03:02 BobB              I wish I was in Wellington where its always sunny and mild
03:02 BobB              its bucketing rain and windy in Sydney
02:52 cdickinson        good thing about the infrastructure being in code is that I can restore it from nothing >:D
02:52 wizzyrea          fireworks is <reply> http://f.ptcdn.info/864/012/000/1386005390-tumblrlhz0-o.gif
02:52 francesca         love the confetti
02:52 cdickinson        yep :P
02:52 francesca         but you do
02:52 cdickinson        just wasn't aware that's what it does
02:52 cdickinson        no, I shouldn't
02:51 eythian           yeah, I don't think you could complain that it deleted files if that's what you told it to do by using --force
02:51 cdickinson        fireworks
02:51 wahanui           confetti is probably http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
02:51 wizzyrea          confetti
02:51 * cdickinson      sets the fireworks
02:51 * francesca       is losing paitence with her computer
02:51 wizzyrea          eythian++
02:51 wizzyrea          \o/ YAY
02:51 eythian           3.18.10 uploading
02:51 * wizzyrea        sighs in relief
02:51 cdickinson        this is a daily happening in my life
02:50 cdickinson        nothing was actually lost, so laugh
02:50 * francesca       doesn't know wether to laugh or feel sorry for cdickinson
02:50 cdickinson        goodbye important files needed for my Puppet Master to run
02:49 francesca         (I know thats not how you spell it)
02:49 francesca         so bascilly it freaks out
02:49 cdickinson        force it to clone, and it obliterates existing files
02:49 cdickinson        what I love is what git does when it finds itself in that situation
02:45 cdickinson        yeah, not doing that :P
02:44 wizzyrea          (not your solution, the one from stackoverflow)
02:44 wizzyrea          but I haven't tried it.
02:43 wizzyrea          actually that solution is a little silly, seems like you could git init, then add your remote, git fetch, then checkout your branch
02:42 francesca         that sounds confusing to me
02:42 cdickinson        no easy way at least
02:42 cdickinson        before the latest version, there was no way to do loops or anything like that
02:41 cdickinson        especially when you try to do things it wasn't intended to do
02:41 cdickinson        it doesn't just look confusing, it gets complicated quickly
02:41 francesca         puppet looks confusing
02:40 wahanui           it has been said that puppet is sure cool
02:40 francesca         puppet?
02:40 cdickinson        thanks Puppet for making that easier said than done
02:40 cdickinson        clone into a temporary folder, then copy contents
02:39 cdickinson        yes, that's what I've had to resort to do
02:39 francesca         my favourite website
02:39 francesca         ahh stackoverflow
02:39 wizzyrea          http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5377960/whats-the-best-practice-to-git-clone-into-an-existing-folder
02:39 francesca         cdickinson: you can't do that?
02:38 jamesb            thanks guys
02:38 cdickinson        give me an option to clone into a folder that has existing files in it, please
02:38 francesca         it has its moments
02:38 cdickinson        this particular issue is a git all the time thing
02:37 francesca         not quite sure about git on my vm
02:37 francesca         cdickinson: I hate git on windows
02:37 wizzyrea          everyone does, cdickinson
02:37 wizzyrea          just email :)
02:37 cdickinson        does anyone have times where they just hate git
02:37 francesca         did something break?
02:37 francesca         wizzyrea you look stressed
02:36 wizzyrea          doing a custom xslt
02:36 wizzyrea          that is definitely the fastest way to go about that.
02:36 irma              thanks all :-)
02:36 rangi             in the meantime you could use the custom xslt facility to have it showing now
02:36 rangi             yeah, i think it will go through fine
02:35 BobB              I think we'll propose a patch to add it
02:35 irma              it's called "organic" rangi
02:35 BobB              never a truer word
02:35 * francesca       is cursing windows 8 to the enth degree
02:35 rangi             there's only multiple conflicting and contradictory rules
02:35 rangi             ever
02:35 rangi             theres no rule for libraries
02:34 wahanui           "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder"
02:34 rangi             123?
02:34 wizzyrea          I didn't say it wasn't important, just that whoever set up the xslt clearly didn't think it was important
02:33 wahanui           okay, irma.
02:33 irma              it is also important as it gives a period in which their literary contribution/s was/were made
02:33 * dcook           goes off to lunch before he starts caring about other stuff
02:33 dcook             Not that it's for the display XSLTs...
02:32 dcook             Oh... I haven't added my latest XSLT magic yet...
02:32 wizzyrea          I was hoping for "send a patch"
02:32 wizzyrea          sigh
02:32 wahanui           There's a bug for that
02:32 wizzyrea          be rangi
02:32 wizzyrea          no.
02:32 wahanui           There's a bug for that
02:32 wizzyrea          be rangi
02:32 wizzyrea          ;)
02:32 wizzyrea          oh I didn't say they were right
02:32 dcook             BobB same
02:32 jamesb            it's a field we've found people care about a bit
02:32 BobB              we've a couple of customers that think its important :)
02:32 dcook             It's a date field so it might look weird to a lot of people
02:31 wizzyrea          though, by the looks I'd rather see that than say, Publisher.
02:31 eythian           could be
02:31 wizzyrea          a stab in the dark - it's not a field most people care about displaying?
02:30 eythian           that doesn't seem quite right to me.
02:30 eythian           if I'm reading that right, it's _only_ 100 and 700 that it doesn't show for
02:30 eythian           <xsl:when test="@tag=111 or @tag=711"><xsl:call-template name="nameACDEQ"/></xsl:when>
02:30 eythian           <xsl:when test="@tag=110 or @tag=710"><xsl:call-template name="nameABCDN"/></xsl:when>
02:30 eythian           <xsl:when test="@tag=100 or @tag=700"><xsl:call-template name="nameABCQ"/></xsl:when>
02:28 BobB              :)
02:28 BobB              snap jamesb
02:28 jamesb            do you know why it was left out?
02:28 BobB              I wonder why it was left out of the standard design? space maybe
02:27 eythian           yeah
02:27 BobB              so that will need an xslt tweak?
02:25 wizzyrea          it wouldn't surprise me one bit that it doesn't
02:24 huginn            eythian: A personal name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8]
02:24 eythian           @marc 100
02:23 jamesb            hey does anyone else find 100$d doesn't display in OPAC and intranet normal view?
02:10 francesca         which means I can continue working on the bugzilla skin
02:10 francesca         I should have my mac back by tomorrow
02:10 rangi             sweet
02:09 eythian           3.20.03 packages uploading
01:47 francesca         yay new lenses for my glasses! Makes looking at all those lines of code much nicer
01:36 wizzyrea          but he's played a lot, a LOT, of freecell.
01:35 wizzyrea          though, he's been through several computers, so hard to get aggregate stats.
01:35 wizzyrea          I bet my dad has stats like that
01:22 eythian           http://imgur.com/VCLudnD
00:07 eythian           more importantly, burgers
00:05 wahanui           cupcakes are yummy
00:05 francesca         cupcakes