Time  Nick         Message
00:17 Francesca    hello #koha
00:36 wizzyrea     Hi Francesca
00:36 Francesca    hey wizzyrea :)
00:37 Francesca    what's up?
00:42 wizzyrea     not a whole lot really
00:42 Francesca    quiet day? lucky
00:42 Francesca    dickinson is meeting me later to fix the driver issue on my vm
00:46 wizzyrea     oh, work is busy enough :)
00:47 Francesca    I
00:47 Francesca    I am cat sitting
00:47 Francesca    mum and david are in aus
00:48 Francesca    first day of cat sitting they bought in a huge mouse
01:02 wizzyrea     isn't that just the way
01:45 dcook        wizzyrea: hey, are you still around?
01:45 wizzyrea     a bit, sup
01:45 dcook        I'm just curious about your patch for the EDS plugin: https://github.com/wizzyrea/edsapi-koha-plugin/commit/3cd0df32f9fda613574ef45bbff3267de7d31b11
01:46 dcook        What was it for?
01:46 wizzyrea     it was a patch file to apply to the cart
01:46 dcook        But for what purpose?
01:46 dcook        I'm having some problems with the cart, but don't know if it's related?
01:46 wizzyrea     to make EDS work with the cart
01:46 wizzyrea     the cart is a real problem for the plugin.
01:46 wizzyrea     it's way old.
01:47 rangi        its all folded into the code itself now
01:47 wizzyrea     that patch.
01:47 wizzyrea     mostly it was to show alvet how to do it in the future, if he needed to.
01:47 rangi        so that patch shouldnt be needed (in theory)
01:47 wizzyrea     ^
01:47 rangi        it would be nicer to have it as patches still
01:48 rangi        because then you could just apply it, rather than replacing the files like you do now
01:48 rangi        https://github.com/wizzyrea/edsapi-koha-plugin/tree/master/Patches/opac/cgi-bin/opac  <-- you need those files for the eds stuff to work
01:48 rangi        https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin/tree/master/Patches/opac/cgi-bin/opac  <-- those ones actually :)
01:48 dcook        :S
01:48 wizzyrea     yeah, that was the idea.
01:48 rangi        but you get what i mean
01:49 dcook        Well, I'm working on 3.14x atm
01:49 wizzyrea     that you'd just apply the patches.
01:49 rangi        yeah a patch for each version would be best
01:49 wizzyrea     to your koha install, build a package off of that, and bada bing, all done.
01:49 dcook        So do you mean the cart working with the Discovery results or the Koha results when using EDS?
01:49 wizzyrea     then it's resolving conflicts instead of "has this moved since he made this"
01:49 dcook        Because it's on the opac-search.pl page that it's not working?
01:49 dcook        That is, you remove items, but you refresh the page and they're still there
01:50 wizzyrea     I have no doubt that it's broken
01:50 wizzyrea     it's an ongoing struggle for the plugin :(
01:50 wizzyrea     having opac results and discovery results in the same plugin.
01:50 wizzyrea     sorry cart.
01:50 dcook        Hmm, I think this might be something else then?
01:50 dcook        Or related..
01:51 wizzyrea     no idea, it's been a struggle and we've had so many version updates now I can't remember what's where.
01:51 dcook        Hmm no worries
01:51 dcook        I'll investigate more :)
01:55 wizzyrea     needless to say, the cart and the EDS plugin are a work in progress
01:55 dcook        The hell...
01:55 dcook        You can say that again :)
01:56 dcook        It looks like he's storing the cart cookie data in local storage as well...
01:57 * dcook      is pretty sure the TTL stuff doesn't work at all
01:57 dcook        But I think I'm meeting with Alvet tomorrow, so yay :)
02:03 dcook        Hmm so the "Add to cart" and "(remove)" work from the search results...
02:05 wizzyrea     oh nice, tell him hi from us
02:05 dcook        Can do
02:34 dcook        Ahhh no wonder remove wasn't working...
02:34 dcook        There's no reference to it in the JS that I can see...
02:34 dcook        Just "Empty and close"
02:35 dcook        Which... doesn't quite work either
02:35 dcook        Oooh.
02:35 dcook        There is "-1" item in my cart :D
02:36 wizzyrea     if you look at the other vrsions of the plugin there may be a fix for that in there
02:36 mtj          hey #koha, anyone recall what values the 'message_queue.status' column has?
02:37 wizzyrea     select distinct(status) from message_queue;
02:37 dcook        mtj: I assume sent, failed, pending, but not sure
02:37 wizzyrea     should tell you what it's doing
02:37 dcook        wizzyrea: Yeah, good call
02:37 wizzyrea     or at least it will tell you what ones have ever been used
02:38 dcook        wizzyrea: no cigar. Code looks the same.
02:38 wizzyrea     ah, bummer
02:39 mtj          thanks dcook, i just checked.. i think you are right :)
02:39 wizzyrea     I thought I saw a fix for that one. Maybe we only reported it.
02:39 dcook        Maybe that'll make it easier to fix at least..
02:39 dcook        wizzyrea: Yeah, I think it's just a reported one
02:56 dcook        I think maybe Koha is just trolling me now
02:56 dcook        The plugin is relying on a number in "basketcount" but somehow I'm getting HTML :S
02:57 dcook        I think perhaps that might be a jquery quirk...
02:59 dcook        Yep... thought I'd seen this before
02:59 dcook        That's a bit of a... Koha problem and an EDS problem...
03:15 dcook        Hmm mmaybe I patched doc-head-close.inc incorrectly...
03:15 * dcook      isn't counting on it..
03:16 dcook        Nope... exactly as instructed..
03:47 mtj          dcook: fwiw.. i do recall getting the EDS plugin running on 3.14 without too many problems
03:48 mtj          hmm, but i'm not sure about the cart stuff either..
03:52 dcook        mtj: I'm fixing it ;)
03:52 dcook        Yeah it works pretty well overall except for the cart I think
03:52 mtj          aah, well done dcook :)
04:17 dcook        While trying to juggle a bunch of other projects at once :)
04:17 dcook        should change my job title to "System Juggler"...
04:20 dcook        Or maybe I should say slowly and painfully trying to fix..
04:29 eythian      oh, hi dcook
04:29 dcook        yo eythian
04:29 eythian      http://piecomic.tumblr.com/post/124944353751
04:30 dcook        hehe
04:31 eythian      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_flags#/media/File:Flag_of_Afghanistan_(1880%E2%80%931901).svg <-- creative
04:35 dcook        Those moments when you can't tell if it's a Koha bug or an EDS bug or...
04:35 dcook        eythian: I was trying to think of a crack about how my soul sat for the painting of that one, but... :p
04:35 eythian      heh
04:36 Francesca    ahhh so cold
04:36 Francesca    @wunder wlg
04:36 huginn       Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:36 dcook        Ahh, totally a Koha bug...
04:37 dcook        Well, at least in 3.14.x
04:37 dcook        If you add items to the cart, refresh the page, open the cart, "Empty and close", they'll be removed from your cart but the text on the page will still say "In your cart"
04:37 dcook        Although the "incart" class is removed...
04:38 dcook        Ahh nope...
04:38 dcook        Refreshing the page removes the "incart" class..
04:38 dcook        Ha! That's the bug
04:38 dcook        Take that OPAC!
04:38 * dcook      kicks the air
04:38 Francesca    I'm dying of laughter here
04:38 dcook        ^_^
04:38 Francesca    what does kicking the air achieve against this bug?
04:39 Francesca    mind you, I feel the same way
04:39 dcook        Oh, it was a celebratory air kick
04:39 dcook        Used to frighten the bug and boost my own spirits
04:39 Francesca    cdickinson and I finally got that stupid video driver on my vm running
04:39 Francesca    fair enough
04:39 dcook        That does sound familiar
04:39 Francesca    yeah it kept failing
04:40 Francesca    and the vm was running slow
04:40 Francesca    to the point where I would type something
04:40 Francesca    and watch the vm type it out veeeeery slowly
04:40 dcook        :/
04:40 Francesca    but its fixed now!
04:40 * Francesca  does a happy dance
04:41 Francesca    hey dcook what are things like weather wise over your way?
04:42 dcook        Mmm
04:42 dcook        Blue skies
04:42 Francesca    warm?
04:42 dcook        I haven't moved since 9am though so I don't know about temps
04:42 * dcook      might just put roots into this chair...
04:42 Francesca    you're in sydney right?
04:42 dcook        Yarp
04:43 Francesca    @wunder syd
04:43 huginn       Francesca: The current temperature in Rosebery, Rosebery, New South Wales is 19.3°C (2:40 PM AEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
04:43 dcook        oh, that doesn't sound too bad
04:43 dcook        Not much wind either
04:43 Francesca    my mum and step dad are in sydeny at the moment
04:43 Francesca    I have the house to myself for the week
04:45 eythian      put a party on facebook
04:45 eythian      that never ends badly
04:45 Francesca    hahahahahaha
04:45 Francesca    I have tests this week
04:45 Francesca    so no partying
04:45 Francesca    unless you count beer o'clock
04:45 Francesca    css I'll be in on friday
04:47 eythian      CSS huh
04:48 Francesca    cas
04:48 Francesca    can't spell
04:48 Francesca    also I apparently have web terms on the brain
04:56 Francesca    yo cdickinphone
04:57 cdickinphone Good afternoon Francesca
04:57 Francesca    its so cold
04:57 cdickinphone @wunder nzwn
04:57 huginn       cdickinphone: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
04:57 Francesca    bet me to it
04:57 Francesca    for once
04:58 cdickinphone Fuelled by cold
04:59 Francesca    how is cold motivation?
04:59 cdickinphone To see how much i can complain :p
05:01 Francesca    hahaha ok
05:02 cdickinphone Hey Francesca, you're still free for the Pizza Thursday at the first Thursday of September, right?
05:02 Francesca    uhhhh no idea
05:02 Francesca    I didn't even know there was a pizza thursday
05:02 Francesca    I come fridays
05:03 cdickinphone There is one, the next one is in the mid-term break
05:03 Francesca    what time?
05:03 wahanui      somebody said time was like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff. or generously donated to giving support in #koha but if you need more help faster than we can give it try http://koha-community.org/support/paid/
05:03 Francesca    omg who taught him that
05:04 Francesca    that is amazing
05:04 cdickinphone Mid day, sort of 12:30 onwards
05:04 Francesca    wahanui: botsnack cookie
05:04 wahanui      thanks Francesca :)
05:04 cdickinphone Something like that
05:04 Francesca    theres a possibility I'm busy but that won't be till 4pm
05:04 Francesca    and you said it was during mid-term?
05:05 cdickinphone Yeah
05:05 Francesca    yeah ok I can come
05:05 cdickinphone I just had a light bulb moment
05:06 cdickinphone During Pizza Thursday, anyone can present stuff
05:06 Francesca    yeah
05:06 cdickinphone I want to do one ob my project
05:06 Francesca    you gonna present your project?]
05:06 Francesca    cool
05:06 Francesca    wish I had a cool project to present on
05:06 Francesca    the last big one I did was the website for level 3 nice
05:07 cdickinphone On*
05:07 cdickinphone And actually show it working
05:07 cdickinphone And i want you to be there for that
05:07 cdickinphone That's where it is
05:08 Francesca    want a hand presenting?
05:09 Francesca    cdickinson: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/70985336/hackers-use-dodgy-web-ads-in-firefox-to-steal-your-files <--- have you got an add blocker installed
05:10 cdickinphone That would be awesome, Francesca
05:10 cdickinphone Actually, i just thought of something you can do that would be awesome that i can't
05:10 Francesca    ok
05:11 Francesca    explain
05:12 cdickinphone Make a simple registration page for adding new sites to Koha as a Service that isn't ugly and interactively checks the status on everything
05:13 Francesca    so you need / want me to do that
05:13 cdickinphone Want
05:13 cdickinphone That would be really awesome
05:14 Francesca    I can do that
05:14 Francesca    I think
05:14 Francesca    not sure i know how to do the last part
05:14 cdickinphone You can leave the scripting stuff to me
05:15 Francesca    what the html?
05:15 wahanui      the html is, like, great for the slips
05:15 Francesca    I can do that too
05:15 cdickinphone Nah, the code to interact with Koha as a Service
05:15 Francesca    ok cool
05:15 cdickinphone You HTML rings around me :p
05:15 Francesca    I'll just get a basic webpage up and running then
05:15 Francesca    :P
05:15 cdickinphone Thank you so much
05:16 Francesca    no worries
05:16 Francesca    It'll be fun for me
05:16 Francesca    do you know how long it's been since I built a site from scratch?
05:16 cdickinphone I'll treat you to anything on Thursday
05:17 Francesca    lets meet Wednesday to discuss further
05:17 cdickinphone Good idea
05:17 Francesca    oh and a quick question - do you want me to build in the latest standard html 5?
05:17 Francesca    a lot of the webpages here are using xhtml still
05:18 cdickinphone Please do
05:18 Francesca    yay!
05:18 cdickinphone Go nuts
05:18 Francesca    So you're telling me I get to build a site from scratch using the latest standards?
05:18 cdickinphone I'm using latest everything
05:18 Francesca    you may have just made my day
05:18 Francesca    am I building off a platform like wordpress?
05:19 Francesca    or totally from scratch
05:19 cdickinphone It doesn't need to be fancy
05:20 cdickinphone From scratch keeps it simple and allows us to change everything
05:20 Francesca    bingo
05:20 cdickinphone You'll be getting a credit in my thesis by the way
05:20 Francesca    oh cool
05:21 dcook        Man I love SSH tunnels...
05:21 cdickinphone Seriously, i'm grateful for this
05:22 Francesca    no worries :)
05:22 Francesca    heres an example of what kind of stuff i like to do
05:22 Francesca    http://francescam.freewebhost.co.nz/SistaDansen/index.php?ckattempt=1
05:22 Francesca    thats my NCEA level 3 webpage
05:25 cdickinphone I already know you're good
05:25 Francesca    cdickinphone: you will need to tell me what text you want
05:25 cdickinphone Something minimal like that is not a bad idea
05:25 Francesca    and how many pages
05:25 eythian      dcook: just buying Anathema tickets now. I had forgot to do that so far.
05:26 Francesca    cdickinphone: I can do something like that page in kohl colours
05:26 Francesca    *koha
05:26 Francesca    or I can do something different
05:26 dcook        eythian: Well, good thing you remembered now!
05:26 cdickinphone Francesca: yeah, please, Koha colours
05:26 Francesca    sweet
05:27 Francesca    more than one page?
05:27 * dcook      wishes what he was doing before he got interrupted by a 40 minute phone call...
05:27 Francesca    dcook: killing bugs?
05:27 dcook        Yeah, I think it was the EDS thing
05:27 dcook        But now I have more bugs
05:27 Francesca    fun
05:27 dcook        And my 3rd different system of the day :)
05:27 Francesca    go kill them off
05:28 dcook        Ugh, I hate when documentation is wrong...
05:29 Francesca    that is annoying isn't it
05:29 dcook        Very :(
05:29 Francesca    cdickinphone: more than one page?
05:29 Francesca    and how many browsers?
05:30 Francesca    probably the only one I don't know is the new microsoft one
05:30 cdickinphone Francesca: it'd only be a few pages: registration form, confirmation, and then the page tracking the progress of provision
05:30 Francesca    oh cool
05:30 cdickinphone Francesca: don't worry about browser compatibility too much
05:31 Francesca    its mainly for the css
05:31 cdickinphone Ah
05:32 cdickinphone Sounds like Firefox and Chrome are all we'd be using
05:32 Francesca    look when are you free on Wednesday?
05:32 cdickinphone If I use JavaScript, it'll be platform agnostic
05:33 Francesca    oh I can even give you the koha favicon
05:33 cdickinphone :p
05:33 cdickinphone 1-2, and after 3 to an extent
05:33 Francesca    what? I have the file - I designed it
05:34 eythian      dcook: ticket: acquired.
05:34 cdickinphone Nice
05:34 Francesca    (that is the one thats being used on the dashboard)
05:34 Francesca    cdickinphone: I am in a tutorial from 1-2
05:34 Francesca    perhaps we discuss on thursday instead?
05:35 cdickinphone Francesca: good idea
05:35 Francesca    I won't build any test pages just yet
05:35 cdickinphone Mmm, good excuse to hang out for a while
05:35 Francesca    but can draw up some sketches instead
05:35 cdickinphone That's cool
05:35 Francesca    we'd already agreed to hang out anyway
05:36 Francesca    sketches mean you get an overview, and I get a good idea before I start coding
05:36 cdickinphone :p yeah
05:36 cdickinphone You sound just like an engineer
05:37 Francesca    #IlookLikeAnEngineer
05:37 dcook        eythian: Nicely done :)
05:38 dcook        Turns out that the new DSpace stores a lot of text values in a single table...
05:38 dcook        And that if you have a repeated entry for a certain resource, you get inexplicably duplicated data...
05:38 dcook        I mean... you shouldn't have a repeated entry... but still
05:38 Francesca    cdickinphone: did you see that article I posted? Its important for you since you use firefox
05:38 * dcook      wonders how someone repeated an entry...
05:38 cdickinphone Francesca: happy to have you as my engineer for this small projecg
05:38 cdickinphone Yeah, i did
05:38 Francesca    got an add blocker?
05:39 cdickinphone Project*
05:39 cdickinphone Yep
05:39 dcook        Oh wow... the bloody UI adds the duplicated entries...
05:39 cdickinphone Adblock Plus, but considering switching to UBlock
05:40 Francesca    cool
05:40 eythian      I've heard uBlock Origin is the way to go
05:40 cdickinphone ^ yeah
05:40 Francesca    hmmm is it available for chrome as well?
05:40 cdickinphone I think Chrome has another better alternative
05:41 Francesca    oh?
05:41 Francesca    do tell
05:41 Francesca    I use ad block pro
05:41 cdickinphone Dunno, not familiar with Chrome addons
05:41 * Francesca  turns to google
05:42 cdickinphone All i know is Adblock Plus is not the best
05:42 eythian      on ffx it's fairly memory hungry
05:42 Francesca    hmm
05:42 cdickinphone Looks like i'm driving to Pak'nSave when i get home
05:42 Francesca    no chocolate avalible?
05:43 cdickinphone Too much
05:43 cdickinphone Not on special at all
05:45 Francesca    sad
05:45 cdickinphone 1% battery, prepare for me disconnecting
05:46 Francesca    ok
05:46 Francesca    return when you have your laptop
05:47 cdickinphone Francesca, if you get an S6, beware the screen brightness, these OLED screens destroy battery when you're viewing bright stuff
05:47 Francesca    yeah I know
05:47 Francesca    sony has great battery
05:47 Francesca    but samsungs are so pretty
05:47 Francesca    plus I find them more usable
05:47 cdickinphone But god it's beautiful when watching video...
05:48 Francesca    do you have one?
05:48 Francesca    ??
05:48 cdickinphone My S III mini has an OLED screen
05:49 Francesca    ah
05:49 cdickinphone Best thing about it
05:49 Francesca    I always carry a usb
05:49 Francesca    so I can charge
05:49 cdickinphone I need a battery bank
05:49 Francesca    I have a portable charger
05:50 cdickinphone The battery is a couple of years old and i use it a lot on thw go lately
05:50 Francesca    yeah after about 3 years they start to die
05:51 cdickinphone I want to buy a higher end phone this time around, so i'm sticking with this until i can afford one
05:51 Francesca    mm there is a kitty cat cuddling up to me
05:52 Francesca    portable phone
05:52 Francesca    maybe don't go straight to the s6
05:52 Francesca    css expensive
05:52 cdickinphone Nah
05:52 Francesca    cas
05:52 Francesca    s4, s5?
05:52 Francesca    I have my own personal heater
05:53 cdickinphone Those wouldn't be bad but i want the latest Android version, and support for future ones
05:53 cdickinphone Still cold here
05:53 Francesca    so nexus
05:53 Francesca    my heater is a cat
05:53 cdickinphone Train isn't bad then
05:53 cdickinphone Though*
05:53 Francesca    what are you thinking of?
05:54 Francesca    for phones
05:54 cdickinphone Had a Nexus 5 while i was doing an NWEN project, but not a big fan of the ergonomics
05:54 cdickinphone Nexus 6 is too big
05:54 Francesca    so what are you thinking of then?
05:55 cdickinphone I was looking into the ASUS ZenFone 2, which is basically a high end phone for mid-range prices
05:55 Francesca    ok
05:55 cdickinphone Only available here as an import though
05:55 Francesca    so not samsung
05:55 Francesca    oh be careful - some import phones don't support nz
05:55 cdickinphone Nah, too expensive
05:55 cdickinphone Nah, that one is good
05:56 Francesca    you've checked?
05:56 cdickinphone Yeah :p Pretty much everything should be nowadays, as connection standards are globalising
05:56 cdickinphone Especially with LTE being rolled out
05:57 Francesca    mmm
05:57 Francesca    u going 4g?
05:57 Francesca    its really fast
05:57 cdickinphone For sure
05:57 Francesca    I love it
05:57 * Francesca  has a phone that supports 4G
05:57 cdickinphone 3G is not bad, but having fast Internet on the go would be sweeeet
05:58 Francesca    its a bit big for me to easily hold though
05:58 Francesca    IKR?
05:58 cdickinphone My phone has a 4 inch screen
05:58 Francesca    maybe we should move to individual chat
05:58 Francesca    tiny
05:58 cdickinphone Lol
05:58 Francesca    no sersiouly
05:58 Francesca    anyways
05:58 Francesca    facebook?
05:58 wahanui      facebook is *not* a universal authenticator!
05:58 Francesca    shush wahanui
05:58 cdickinphone Yeah
06:11 cdickinson   my phone died just as I got home
06:15 BobB         hey dcook, eythian still about?
06:15 eythian      for a moment
06:15 BobB         is there a sys pref that turns search facets off and on?
06:15 eythian      hmm
06:15 BobB         I can't remember (:
06:15 eythian      not aware of one
06:15 BobB         and can't find one
06:15 eythian      I think you can switch between koha facets and zebra facets though
06:16 eythian      but I don't think you can just turn them off
06:16 BobB         but I have an instance where facets display and one where they don't
06:16 eythian      huh
06:16 eythian      that's unexpected
06:16 eythian      I don't think I've ever not seen them show
06:16 BobB         ok, thx
06:16 BobB         the install is not ours, its on centos
06:17 BobB         and we can't easily poke at it
06:18 eythian      I mean, I'd have a look for any syspref that matches "facet"
06:18 eythian      but I've never noticed one that'll do this
06:18 BobB         done that, no luck :)
06:19 BobB         and went one by one through the search, opac and intranet sys prefs, to boot
06:52 marcelr      hi #koha
06:53 dcook        yo marcelr
06:54 marcelr      hi dcook
07:10 cait         morning #koha
07:10 dcook        Ugh, I love how the ILS-DI documentation is a bit of a lie...
07:11 dcook        yo cait :)
07:16 cait         hi dcook .9
07:16 cait         :)
07:16 dcook        :)
07:16 Francesca    hi cait
07:17 cait         hi Francesca
07:17 Francesca    how goes it?
07:18 cait         it's monday ;)
07:20 dcook        ^
07:20 dcook        So much that
07:39 dcook        wizzyrea: Keep finding more things... yikes...
07:40 Francesca    bugs bugs and more bugs?
07:40 * Francesca  thinks that dcook needs an exterminator
07:41 dcook        yarp
07:41 dcook        And it's so time to go home
07:41 dcook        Way past time to go home
07:41 Francesca    so homeward bound it is then?
07:42 dcook        Pretty soon
07:42 * dcook      appears to be a masochist
07:43 Francesca    masochist?
07:44 dcook        Apparently I like working even when it's painful :p
07:44 Francesca    wow ok
07:44 dcook        Nah, it's awful. I rather just work it out now while I'm on a roll
07:44 Francesca    fair enough
07:58 dcook        I love when a person wraps a "try-catch" around something but never deals with the catch
07:58 dcook        No fatal errors because the error is being caught so we can just stroll along pretending everything is fine...
08:01 Francesca    dcook: if you need stress relief... http://www.gamesville.com/html_downloads/pokePenguin.php
08:02 dcook        Nah, no time for games
08:02 dcook        Home-made perogies that my wife and I made last night though... those will be my dinner
08:02 dcook        :D
08:04 Francesca    :)
08:06 dcook        En fait, I think I'll go now
08:06 dcook        au revoir :D
08:19 Joubu        hello
08:20 cait         ping drojf
08:20 cait         morning Joubu
08:20 cait         @later ping drojf - ich hab da mal ne Frage... :)
08:20 huginn       cait: downloading the Perl source
08:20 cait         @later tell drojf - ich hab da mal ne Frage... :)
08:20 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
09:06 xarragon     in 4
09:07 xarragon     Damn this keyboard
09:29 cait         xarragon: ?
09:39 xarragon     cait: I was trying to type '/win 4', to change the current IRC window.
09:39 xarragon     But this keyboard requires you to really pound the keys home.
09:50 cait         new keyboard? :)
09:57 xarragon     Old new keyboard, yes. But I think I will buy a proepr one, this is just a standard keyboard shipped with HP desktops. very nice feel, but with some hidden drawbacks
11:49 tcohen       morning
11:51 cait         morning tcohen
11:59 drojf        hi #koha
12:11 cait         morning drojf
12:25 tcohen       morning
12:25 tcohen       @wunder cordoba,argentina
12:25 huginn       tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.9°C (9:25 AM ART on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:25 tcohen       hi Joubu
12:26 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
12:26 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 31.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:26 drojf        i win
12:27 cdickinson   @wunder lower hutt
12:27 huginn       cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.9°C (12:20 AM NZST on August 11, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:42 tcohen       drojf: :-P
12:52 Joubu        hi tcohen
14:38 cait         @wunder Konstanz
14:38 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 27.3°C (4:38 PM CEST on August 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
15:43 tcohen       hi cait
15:43 pianohacker  hi tcohen
15:45 cait         tcohen: you are lagging :)
15:45 tcohen       hi pianohacker
15:45 tcohen       i've been working with myu intern
15:58 pianohacker  tcohen: myu?
15:58 tcohen       s/u//
15:59 tcohen       cait: don't push me
15:59 tcohen       it is taking me more time than expected to adjust the 'attach files' patches
15:59 cait         me? push you?
15:59 cait         you mus mistake me with pianohacker :P
16:00 pianohacker  hey now :)
16:00 pianohacker  I just want tcohen to push bgkriegel to answer my email, I'm not _that_ demanding...
16:01 tcohen       i want to push pianohacker so he finishes rancor in a pusheable form in time for 3.22
16:02 pianohacker  tcohen: working on it... gonna poke khall in person later today to find out how testing at nakug went
16:05 cait         pianohacker: your comment made me hopeful - you were able to fix it all?
16:05 cait         pianohacker: there is also a comment froma  potential sign-offer ont he bug :)
16:06 pianohacker  cait: I was able to fix everything but the 003. That's a finicky issue that I'm not sure how to fix, because I realized that a widget like the ones for leader/005/008 wouldn't really be quite appropriate
16:06 cait         hm, could you pull in the pref, when empty, like it is now?
16:07 pianohacker  cait: well, yes, that part isn't hard, it's the infrastructure to make that without hard-coding it for MARC21 that's a bit trickier :)
16:08 pianohacker  it's on my list of things to fix once I know that everything actually, y'know, works
16:11 cait         i will try to give it another test drive soon... but this week is super busy and next week i am on vactaiont ravelling
16:12 Joubu        bye #koha!
16:39 cait         bye #koha
17:25 tcohen       @seen marcelr
17:25 huginn       tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 31 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi dcook
20:14 cait         so was it only me or was the chat broken?
20:15 rangi        only you
20:16 cait         the logs are pretty empty as well
20:18 rangi        04:39 < cait> bye #koha
20:18 rangi        05:25 < tcohen> @seen marcelr
20:18 cait         and then silence
20:18 rangi        yep
20:18 rangi        but still 30 people on the channel
20:18 cait         weird
20:18 rangi        its like that pretty much every morning
20:18 cait         i couldn't even get to the oftc website
20:21 rangi        i wonder if it was your isp being weird
20:22 cait         no idea, everything else was ok
21:08 burdsjm      Has the hold's filled checkbox disappeared on patron accounts for anyone else?
21:09 rangi        you mean in the messaging preferences?
21:10 burdsjm      yes
21:10 rangi        no, its there in master and 3.20.2 for me
21:11 burdsjm      I'm on
21:11 rangi        it's most likely data related
21:11 burdsjm      Ok
21:12 burdsjm      other checkboxes are there for email and working.
21:12 burdsjm      email info is in there for the notices
21:12 wizzyrea     I'll have a look 2 shakes.
21:13 rangi        check your message_transports table
21:14 burdsjm      ok
21:14 wizzyrea     looks ok to me
21:14 wizzyrea     on 3.18.x
21:24 cait         it's a bug
21:24 cait         it appears sometimes after updating
21:24 cait         it happened to us in 1 of 18 instances
21:25 cait         let me find the workaround
21:25 burdsjm      great
21:25 cait         but what rangi said is right, it's missing a line in a table
21:26 cait         bug 13171
21:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13171 normal, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Check box for email is missing for hold notifications in patron messaging preferences.
21:26 burdsjm      I see it
21:27 cait         the sql is on the last comment
21:40 burdsjm      thanks guys
21:40 burdsjm      and girls :)
21:41 cait         :)
21:42 cait         wish we could figure out why and when that happens
21:46 rangi        probably the way to find out, turn on mysql logging, do the upgrade, roll back, do the upgrade, roll back, etc until it happens
21:46 rangi        then check the log to see what query was run that changed it
21:47 cait         yeah, i just didn't have the time
21:47 cait         i figured out a fix the first time it happened and then it got lost in the big pile
21:47 cait         and hard when you don#t even know where to start... you could run quite a lot of updates
21:47 cait         hm
21:48 rangi        yeah but then you just grep the mysql log for message_transports
21:48 rangi        its gonna have to have that in it
21:50 cait         true
22:18 eythian      hi
22:31 Francesca    ahhh cold
22:32 Francesca    @wunder wlg
22:32 huginn       Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on August 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
23:25 cdickinson   literal Debian
23:25 wahanui      cdickinson: Debian =is= what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that|Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to.
23:26 cdickinson   wahanui: Debian also is <reply> the operating system equivalent of rangi - straight up open source
23:26 wahanui      OK, cdickinson.
23:28 rangi        heh
23:39 Francesca    cdickinson: lol
23:39 * Francesca  waves at rangi