Time  Nick           Message
00:18 pianohacker    @later tell cait followup pushed for rantcor
00:18 huginn         pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
00:18 pianohacker    ... works better than I'd like
00:18 pianohacker    bye all
04:11 cdickinson     @later tell rangi ~530 to provision a new Koha instance, and around 40 seconds in total to provision a new site by manually linearly telling the nodes to update themselves... should be reasonable but I haven't done anything to make it better yet :P
04:11 huginn         cdickinson: The operation succeeded.
04:11 wizzyrea       cdickinson++
04:20 AmitG          hi
04:20 AmitG          wizzyrea
04:20 wahanui        wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore
04:20 wizzyrea       hi
05:32 cdickinson     <wizzyrea> cdickinson++ - wizzyrea, I've been meaning to ask, what does that mean? :P
05:32 huginn         cdickinson: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
05:32 cdickinson     well that answers that
05:33 cdickinson     need to learn more about the karma system
07:13 cait           morning #koha
07:18 * andreashm    waves
07:30 AmitG          heya cait
07:31 * cait         waves
07:50 nlegrand       hey #koha
08:10 cait           hi nlegrand
08:13 nlegrand       hey cait ^^
08:40 Dark_Librarian hello everyone
08:41 cait           hi Dark_Librarian
09:59 cait           does someone know if we cache the marc frameworks and ohw to give that a kick if we do?
12:13 nengard        morning all
12:28 tcohen         morning!
13:10 cait           re my complaints the last 2 days about the plugin... i forgot to put the right pugin name INTO the plugin file
13:11 cait           ... it's ok no
13:11 cait           w
13:11 cait           morning tcohen!
13:19 wnickc         hello everyone!
13:19 wnickc         khall: hello
13:19 wahanui        hey, wnickc
13:19 khall          hi wnickc!
13:20 khall          what's up wnickc
13:20 wnickc         hi khall
13:22 wnickc         @wuder 05048\
13:22 huginn         wnickc: I suck
13:23 wnickc         @wuder 05048
13:23 huginn         wnickc: I suck
13:23 wnickc         @wunder 05048
13:23 huginn         wnickc: The current temperature in Hartland Four Corners, Hartland, Vermont is 16.9°C (9:23 AM EDT on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
13:23 wnickc         @later tell khall hello
13:23 huginn         wnickc: The operation succeeded.
13:23 wnickc         packages?
13:23 wahanui        i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
13:24 wnickc         mailing lists?
13:24 wahanui        mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:24 wnickc         listserv
13:24 wahanui        try 'mailing list', wnickc
13:24 wnickc         mailing list
13:24 wahanui        mailing list is, like, at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:24 wnickc         bug 9011
13:24 wahanui        i think bug 9011 is quite large too
13:24 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item
13:25 tubaclarinet   @edveal hi
13:25 huginn         tubaclarinet: downloading the Perl source
13:26 Kchris         hi wnickc
13:26 wnickc         Hello
13:27 Kchris         wnickc: this is chris from GMLC
13:27 wnickc         Hi Kchris
13:28 wnickc         at kohana say hi to everyone
13:35 nengard        hi kchris and wnickc
13:36 Kchris         Hi nengard
13:36 cait           hi kohana! (for wnickc to forward)
13:37 wnickc         hi cait
13:37 tcohen         hi khall cait wnickc nengard Kchris
13:37 cait           hi tcohen :)
13:40 Rebecca        Nick is demonstrating IRC for KohaNA :) fun
13:40 cait           :)
13:40 cait           @wunder Konstanz
13:40 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 29.8°C (3:39 PM CEST on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
13:41 Rebecca        @wunder 16504
13:41 huginn         Rebecca: The current temperature in E 38TH & LAKE PLEASANT, Erie, Pennsylvania is 20.0°C (9:40 AM EDT on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
13:42 tcohen         @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:42 huginn         tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.6°C (10:40 AM ART on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
13:42 jmsasse        cait: Hello from koha-na:-)
13:43 jbriceiii      anyone at Kohana that is interested in how the software development process works and what master and all of that good stuff is stop by and see me (the guy in the hawaiian shirt) I have a short 10 minute slide show that illustrates how all this works.
13:43 * cait         waves at jmsasse
13:43 hbraum         @jbriceiii can it be put online? that would be very useful for people, i’m sure!
13:43 huginn         hbraum: downloading the Perl source
13:44 cait           hi hbraum :)
13:44 hbraum         hi cait!
13:48 Kchris         jbriceiii: I agree that it would be useful to put it online.
13:49 nengard        jbriceiii I also have this on our site: http://bywatersolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/koha_development_process_21.jpg
13:49 Kchris         Hi tcohen
13:49 nengard        i'd love to see what you did differently
13:58 jbriceiii      https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Dla3xm3qIsmeRAjTVx3rMgW18Au2tQmMhpMVj5foap0/edit?usp=sharing
13:58 Kchris         %n kchris_afk
13:59 jbriceiii      please be aware the presentation I just posted is a graphical overview.  There is some narrative that goes with it.  So if it doe not make sense please stop by and I will fill in the blanks.
13:59 Kchris         oops. not sure how to change my nick name in Hexchat
14:01 cait           Kchris: try /nick newname
14:03 kchris_afk     cait: thanks! it works!
14:32 tcohen         #koha: can we add a GPLv2+ file into Koha?
14:34 tcohen         barton: did u take a look at bug 14217?
14:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes
14:41 kchris         jbriceiii: you have provided a nice graphical overview. The best audience for this presentation is those who are brand new to open source.
14:42 barton         tcohen: yes, I read through that last week when nengard asked about working with indicators. ... that was for lexile, which is still on my list :-)
14:43 tcohen         lexile'
14:43 tcohen         ?
14:44 barton         tcohen: see bug 14277
14:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14277 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, ASSIGNED , Search index 'lex' does not honor MARC indicator "ind1"
14:45 tcohen         ah
14:47 tcohen         i marked as dependent on 14217
14:47 tcohen         as it introduces the needed syntax
14:53 kchris         another novice question:I am trying to backup kohadevbox data, and have attempted to use koha-dump, but a get "command not found", although "man koha-dump" displays manual page. perhaps I am running the script from the wrong folder.I'm not sure which one to use.
14:54 cait           were you using sudo ?
14:54 kchris         no
14:54 cait           but should not make the difference i guess
14:56 barton         actually, that reminds me ... I'm looking for a good way to do some data analysis on that partner's MARC 521 fields. Is there a good way of dumping that field and retaining its structure? ExtractValue( marcxml, '//datafield[@tag=521]/*' ) will flatten the field, and I need to get a feel for which indicators are there, and what the tag names are.
14:56 barton         tcohen: thanks for putting in that dependency.
14:57 tcohen         barton, do it in Perl :-D
14:57 kchris         cait: sudo helps...now I get "failed to load external entity "/etc/kohasites/koha_kohadev/koha-conf.xml".that's some progress
14:58 cait           hm sorry, not sure how to move on from there
14:59 tcohen         cait: what is the problem?
14:59 wahanui        hmmm... the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
15:01 cait           tcohen: kchris tries to run koha-dump
15:08 barton         tcohen: yeah, I was coming to that conclusion... trying to shoehorn every marcxml record into a huge XML file then running xpath on the whole shebangus was an exersize in ... @words_describing_pain_and_frustration
15:10 cait           hm you coudl convert to mrk wth marcedit and then use a good editor... not perfect, but it's what i usually work with
15:10 cait           ... or do it in perl :)
15:10 barton         prefer perl.
15:11 barton         run linux almost exclusively... yes, I know that you can run marcedit in linux, but I'm philosophically against it ;-)
15:12 cait           there are other tools you can use to convert
15:12 cait           there is a blog post about how to do it with command line even on gmcharlts blog
15:12 cait           i always refer to that when i need it
15:12 barton         cait, you wouldn't happen to have a link?
15:14 TGoat          what is mode +oo
15:15 barton         good question, TGoat :-)
15:15 barton         I know that it has something to do with ops privaledges in channel, but more I do not know.
15:17 cait           barton: sorry no, i always miss to save it
15:18 cait           ah but wait
15:18 cait           https://galencharlton.com/blog/2013/10/introducing-the-next-new-marc-editor-vim/
15:18 barton         cait, I was about to paste that link in ;-)
15:20 barton         hm... that's interesting... might give me something that I could grep on.
15:41 cait           @wunder Konstanz
15:41 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 30.3°C (5:40 PM CEST on August 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
16:28 ewaldosoft     Buen dia estoy usando koha 3.16 y quiero actualizarlo alguien me puede apoyar?
16:29 tcohen         ewaldosoft: que necestias?
16:29 ewaldosoft     actualizarlo a 3.20
16:29 ewaldosoft     http://biblio.altiplano.uvg.edu.gt/
16:30 ewaldosoft     koha lo tengo en ubuntu
17:32 tcohen         gmcharlt: is it possible to ship a GPLv2+ file with Koha? (borrowed from another projec)
18:00 wnickc         pianohacker: around?
18:06 pianohacker    wnickc: shalom
18:06 pianohacker    what's up?
18:07 wnickc         Is there any method for linking authorities in rancor?
18:07 wnickc         Just boning up to demonstrate later
18:08 pianohacker    wnickc: no, unfortunately... that's the subject of ongoing development, but not in the version on bug 11559
18:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
18:08 kidclamp       pianohacker: anything  specific you want folks to poke at?
18:09 pianohacker    hi kidclamp
18:09 kidclamp       its wnickc, just kicked and doubled
18:09 pianohacker    oh heh okay
18:10 pianohacker    kidclamp: so, there's a test plan that's the whole gigantic set of features in rancor: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559#c73
18:10 huginn         04Bug 11559: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
18:10 pianohacker    partial signoffs are 100% okay; if someone can test 1 feature and certify that it works well, that's cool
18:10 kidclamp       ah, yes, I should read the hwole bug first :-)
18:11 pianohacker    kidclamp: bugzilla comments would be the easiest way, but I can post a google spreadsheet if that would be faster on the ground. Your decision
18:11 kidclamp       we'll see how far we got and take notes and then post to bz
18:12 pianohacker    kidclamp: excellent! Make sure to note the sandbox posted near the end, it has the latest version with all the followups
18:12 pianohacker    kidclamp++ # thanks for your help
18:12 kidclamp       no prob, advance thanks for rancor
18:41 tcohen         rancor++
18:41 tcohen         all for pushing it
18:42 tcohen         @later tell marcelr my brain hurts reading the file upload patches. i cannot think of anything else appart from 'we should already have that REST API and most of this code would run away"
18:42 huginn         tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:00 TGoat          Nevada County picked auto-graphics
19:00 pianohacker    hi TGoat ;)
19:22 tcohen         bye everyone, have a nice weekend
22:10 tubaclarinet   Hello world I thot I'd try this out after we talked about it a Koha NA conf
22:11 pianohacker    hi tubaclarinet!
22:12 tubaclarinet   Hello, I hope 2 join the koha mtgs on here
22:14 pianohacker    tubaclarinet: you can see a list of future and past meetings if you click around http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Meetings , and they're also often announced on the mailing list
22:15 tubaclarinet   Piano hacker: thank u; i'll check it out
22:27 tubaclarinet   Goodbye
23:09 cdickinson     @wunder lower hutt
23:09 huginn         cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 5.7°C (11:00 AM NZST on August 08, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
23:09 cdickinson     I knew it
23:09 cdickinson     heater is coming back into my room
23:19 Francesca      lol
23:19 Francesca      @wunder wlg
23:19 huginn         Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on August 08, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
23:21 cdickinson     winter warmth pack: hoodie, fat pants, heater, warm breakfast
23:25 Francesca      winter warmth pack for the sick: bed, heater
23:27 cdickinson     Francesca: not to mention slaves to get your food :P
23:27 Francesca      I'm house sitting
23:27 Francesca      theres no one here but me and the cats
23:28 pianohacker    @later tell Joubu please see http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14655#c4
23:28 huginn         pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
23:28 huginn         04Bug 14655: blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot checkin without Anonymous Patron
23:30 Francesca      hi pianohacker
23:30 pianohacker    hi Francesca :)
23:37 Francesca      had a chance to do some piano hacking yet
23:39 pianohacker    no... been a long week. Thank you, though, I should set up my piano tonight :)
23:40 pianohacker    poor thing has been collecting dust