Time  Nick                 Message
23:41 huginn`              eythian: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
23:41 eythian              @marc 260
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23:30 Francesca            freedom is mine
23:29 Francesca            yuuus lecture finished
22:50 bag                  490 and 830 I think
22:35 Francesca_InALecture hey rangi
22:33 rangi                490
22:31 wahanui              http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
22:31 rangi                we should use more marc
22:31 rangi                do we use 490 or 440 for series now?
22:31 rangi                i cant remember
22:31 rangi                aargh
22:22 Francesca            hi eythian
22:19 eythian              hi
22:10 Francesca            bye cdickinson
22:10 cdickinson           time for a shower, seriously, it takes ages to get in on the train
22:09 cdickinson           yeah, see you then
22:09 cdickinson           thanks for caring enough to keep asking about it, though haha
22:09 Francesca            I'll see you at 2
22:09 cdickinson           yeah
22:09 Francesca            so no rush
22:09 Francesca            I think it runs in ti 3 as well
22:08 Francesca            sure
22:08 cdickinson           Let me think about it a bit more, Francesca
22:08 Francesca            I could put you in touch with the course coordinator?
22:07 cdickinson           can't just waltz into the lecture then, poop
22:07 Francesca            why?
22:07 Francesca            yeah
22:07 cdickinson           do they take attendances?
22:07 cdickinson           I'd love to, but I don't think I could at this point for a variety of reasons :P
22:06 Francesca            its really useful
22:06 Francesca            you still might be able to get into my stream if you really wanted to
22:05 Francesca            my essay writing class isn't actually full
22:05 cdickinson           heh
22:05 wahanui              it has been said that cdickinson is a Linux admin who runs Windows. (blasphemer.)
22:05 Francesca            cdickinson
22:04 cdickinson           I'll stop talking then, gotta get ready anyway
22:04 Francesca            my brain cannot take in anymore stuff
22:04 cdickinson           heh
22:04 Francesca            I'm in an essay writing class
22:04 cdickinson           defragging on Linux at least isn't necessary, the file systems just take care of it as far as I know
22:03 Francesca            oook
22:03 cdickinson           cause it makes no difference and just wears it out
22:03 Francesca            I'll take it on your word
22:03 cdickinson           don't do it to a computer with an SSD, though
22:03 cdickinson           useful for everything, really
22:03 Francesca            so useful for os upgrades?
22:02 Francesca            ah right
22:02 cdickinson           cause it's all nicely in order
22:02 cdickinson           this makes accessing data on hard drives a lot faster if it needs to be done
22:02 cdickinson           disk*
22:01 cdickinson           Francesca: defragmenting is basically rearranging the data on your discs so the blocks aren't all jumbled up
22:01 Francesca            what is defrag?
22:01 Francesca            everything for music runs so much better on mac
22:01 wizzyrea             the last time I had to defrag anything was on windows 98. Maybe I did it once or twice on XP. I haven't used vista or 7 enough to know anything about fixing them.
22:01 Francesca            I like mac because of the music software
22:01 Francesca            stupid auto correct
22:01 Francesca            defrag
22:01 cdickinson           Francesca: one half of that I can fully get behind
22:01 Francesca            what is a quick defray?
22:00 cdickinson           wizzyrea: there is when you don't have much stuff on your OS drive I guess
22:00 wizzyrea             there is such a thing as a quick defrag?
22:00 Francesca            I am totally a mac and ubuntu girl
22:00 Francesca            Well tell me what its like later then
21:59 cdickinson           running a quick defrag and then going to force my Windows 8.1 to upgrade, because the Windows 10 reservation icon thing disappeared...
21:59 cdickinson           I don't have it yet
21:59 Francesca            ok wahanui
21:59 Francesca            what is windows 10 like
21:58 wahanui              somebody said windows was a pretty good Wine emulator
21:58 Francesca            what windows?
21:58 Francesca            I don;t want to work
21:58 cdickinson           wizzyrea: it's gotten better... if that's possible
21:58 Francesca            its all good
21:58 cdickinson           sorry, Francesca, should I stop bothering you and let you work :P
21:58 wizzyrea             which is alarming.
21:58 wizzyrea             if I have to use something that isn't linux, I'd actually prefer windows at this point.
21:58 Francesca            sigh
21:58 * Francesca          should be working
21:57 Francesca            I take it thats not a good thing
21:57 Francesca            hahaha
21:57 wizzyrea             I used to use a mac. then it started to feel like Windows
21:57 cdickinson           Francesca: it's unix so it has that going for it, I'm not a fan of Apple itself more than anything
21:56 wahanui              thanks Francesca :)
21:56 Francesca            wahanui botsnack cookie
21:56 Francesca            bot training is fun
21:56 Francesca            love it
21:56 Francesca            not sure thats much better in the eyes of these guys
21:56 wizzyrea             thus ends your bot training session.
21:56 Francesca            and now I run mac
21:56 Francesca            don't judge me for my past actions :P
21:56 Francesca            I an windows 8 last year
21:55 wahanui              okay, wizzyrea.
21:55 wizzyrea             cdickinson is also a Linux admin who runs Windows. (blasphemer.)
21:55 wahanui              I run Windows. Don't judge me.
21:55 Francesca            cdickinson
21:55 Francesca            oh whoops that will only work on my other one
21:55 wahanui              I love Doctor Who
21:55 wizzyrea             francesca?
21:55 cdickinson           a Linux admin who runs Windows
21:55 cdickinson           it feels so taboo
21:55 Francesca            francesca is <reply> I love Doctor Who
21:55 wahanui              wizzyrea: I forgot francesca
21:55 wizzyrea             forget Francesca
21:55 wahanui              wizzyrea: Francesca =is= <reply> I love the 11th doctor!
21:55 wizzyrea             literal Francesca
21:54 Francesca            I love it
21:54 Francesca            hahahahaha
21:54 cdickinson           lol
21:54 wahanui              I run Windows. Don't judge me.
21:54 wizzyrea             cdickinson?
21:54 wizzyrea             cdickinson is <reply> I run Windows. Don't judge me.
21:54 Francesca            how do I make wahanui say I love doctor who about me instead of I love the 11th doctor
21:54 cdickinson           I have no idea
21:53 wizzyrea             what do you want him to say?
21:53 cdickinson           I want wahanui to say something about me
21:53 wahanui              Francesca: excuse me?
21:53 Francesca            wahanui thinks you don't exist
21:53 wizzyrea             hiya
21:53 wahanui              wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore
21:53 Francesca            hey wizzyrea
21:53 wizzyrea             ;)
21:53 wizzyrea             totally judging you
21:53 Francesca            (no I'm not) I used to be a windows user too
21:52 Francesca            I'm so judging you :P
21:51 cdickinson           people of #koha, don't judge me, but I'm about to upgrade to Windows 10
21:50 * Francesca          waves at wizzyrea
21:47 wizzyrea             \o/ crawling! Now the fun begins.
21:42 cait                 :)
21:39 Francesca            cute
21:36 tcohen               he's almost doing if forward
21:35 tcohen               manuel just started to crawl, backwards
21:25 tcohen1              hah
21:21 bag                  s/you/yo
21:21 bag                  you tcohen1 - why the 1 today?  tcohen1 replies - because I am number 1 !!!!
21:21 tcohen1              hi bag
21:19 Francesca            I have to attend them
21:19 mtompset             (I realize that is probably not it at all :P)
21:18 mtompset             Then stop giving them? ;)
21:18 Francesca            ugh early morning lectures are the worst
21:18 Francesca            ok
21:18 mtompset             I usually dread phone calls from supporters who aren't close friends.
21:17 mtompset             Strangely, yes.
21:15 Francesca            a good call?
21:15 mtompset             I just had a 15 minute phone call with a supporter. :)
21:15 Francesca            hola bag
21:15 wahanui              privet, bag
21:15 bag                  hola
21:15 mtompset             Strangely, that is true still.
21:15 Francesca            haha ok
21:14 wahanui              well, mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
21:14 Francesca            hey mtompset
21:14 mtompset             Greetings, Francesca bag. :)
21:13 * Francesca          waves
21:06 cait                 ... we do too
21:05 tcohen1              "Hopefully back for real in the fall. I miss you guys!"
21:04 cait                 yep
21:03 tcohen1              he misses us too, and will be back sooner than we think
21:03 pianohacker          ah, cool :)
21:03 cait                 i talked a bit to him on twitter every few weeks - he hasn't forgotten about us :)
21:03 tcohen1              pianohacker: he's working on another project for a while
21:03 cait                 some website?
21:03 cait                 pianohacker: anotherproject i think
21:01 rangi                i pinged him on the tweets
21:01 cait                 hi pianohacker
21:01 pianohacker          oh, hey cait
21:01 pianohacker          anyone know?
21:01 pianohacker          vacation, sabbatical, less community involvement, what?
21:00 cait                 but hopefully he will be back soon
21:00 cait                 yeah
20:59 bag                  21 weeks is a long time
20:54 huginn`              rangi: oleonard was last seen in #koha 21 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on.
20:54 rangi                @seen oleonard
20:46 mtompset             You know you are trying to do too much at once when two Ubuntu and two Debian VMs are running on your machine. :)
20:39 mtompset             Greetings, tcohen. :)
20:39 tcohen               hi mtompset
20:28 rangi                maybe both yes
20:27 rangi                if you want to process 2 sets of records differently
20:27 rangi                you could use the same filter, with different options, instead of making a new one
20:27 mtompset             so perhaps we need both?
20:27 rangi                his one, options could change between the new and the process
20:27 mtompset             right.
20:27 huginn`              cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 5.7°C (8:20 AM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
20:27 cdickinson           @wunder lower hutt
20:27 rangi                on the new
20:27 rangi                your one sets stuff once
20:26 mtompset             well, kind of.
20:26 rangi                they both do different things afaict
20:24 mtompset             cait: No problem. :)
20:24 cait                 mtompset: sorry was afk - house chores
20:24 rangi                id have to read the full code
20:23 mtompset             ^but^but does^
20:22 mtompset             but the concept behind my suggested patch makes more sense than the tweak that tcohen was pondering?
20:22 rangi                would make the code a bunch more readable
20:21 rangi                my $filter
20:21 mtompset             Granted.
20:21 rangi                gotta say $object is a horrible horrible name for a variable
20:21 rangi                yeah
20:20 mtompset             Did you see my question about Koha::RecordProcessor and tcohen's reply?
20:20 rangi                plus he doesnt do development on koha anymore
20:20 mtompset             okay, that makes some sense.
20:18 rangi                mtompset: if you want to avoid yet another half informed rehashing of why we aren't using moose, or some other bikeshedding crap, staying off the koha-devel list is a perfectly valid thing to do
20:17 rangi                morning
20:09 mtompset             jcamins is not on the mailing lists?! That would seem rather strange to avoid koha-devel.
19:58 cait                 i am not sure he is on the mailing lists
19:56 cait                 hi there
19:55 mtompset             And greetings, cait. :)
19:55 mtompset             I was hoping jcamins would comment. :)
19:55 mtompset             Did we ever come to a conclusion about the best way to deal with Koha::RecordProcessor?
19:54 mtompset             Greetings, tcohen.
19:39 huginn`              New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13851: Fix typo in POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04d09249a650056cc9cfb9fe0441bf3d80e6ae4a> / Bug 13851: (QA followup) Unit Tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9ec41e9629e84d06babe7fdcf39a4cc7eec6216> / Bug 13851: Replace waiting holds logic in circulation.pl with Koha Objects <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=062f3
18:56 cait                 hi #koha :)
18:45 bag                  supposed to be over 40 today
18:44 huginn`              bag: The current temperature in Mt Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 25.1°C (11:00 AM PDT on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT Friday... 
18:44 bag                  @wunder 97215
18:43 huginn`              tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 20.9°C (3:40 PM ART on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
18:43 tcohen               @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:46 huginn`              mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <tcohen> hola
17:46 mtompset             @seen tcohen
17:46 huginn`              mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <jcamins> In order for Koha to still be useful you would have to update the Zebra configuration too.
17:46 mtompset             @seen jcamins
17:46 mtompset             Greetings, #koha.
16:37 gaetan_B             bye
16:13 reiveune             bye
15:58 drojf                hi cait
15:55 cait                 hi drojf
15:54 drojf                evening
15:33 wahanui              hey, tcohen
15:33 tcohen               hola
15:29 cait                 hola tcohen
15:28 cait                 at least you know hat to look out for
15:28 cait                 oh
15:22 nlegrand             cait: I have the final word about my plugins problems, it was the permissions! On our production system we have custom premissions, they were clashing with plugins... So I wasn't able to get the CAN_user_plugins, even when superlibrarian... So much time on this one ><
15:15 Dyrcona              wifi--
15:14 huginn`              tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:14 tcohen               @later tell fridolin can u update us on the status of bug 14375
14:57 tcohen               you can have record.abs changed locally :-P just don't add that to the patch so the QA team doesn't fail it
14:52 barton               oh, bereak my heart, break my heart ;-) ;-) ;-)
14:52 tcohen               barton: exactly
14:49 barton               tcohen: so no more edits to record.abs?
14:47 barton               ah. right.
14:47 tcohen               i thought you just filled a bug
14:46 barton               tcohen what was this in reference to?
14:44 tcohen               barton: remember: only DOM
14:26 tcohen               cait: good afternoon
14:26 tcohen               hi khall_
14:15 wahanui              niihau, tcohen
14:15 tcohen               hi
13:06 nlegrand             Gonna try to search a bit
13:06 nlegrand             cait: yep, that's good news ^^, I'm really curious about what was missing :)
13:04 cait                 cool :)
13:04 nlegrand             cait: looks like a missing dependencie, withe deps installed from packaged, it also work on a dev kohaclone
12:41 cait                 hgm maybe a path is different?
12:35 nlegrand             Anyone having an idea about what is missing ?
12:35 nlegrand             It funny, it works with a packaged system, but not with a koha-dev instance, the koha-dev instance tell me : Can't locate object method "new" via package "Koha::Plugin::EDS" (perhaps you forgot to load "Koha::Plugin::EDS"?) at /home/koha/koha-src/Koha/Plugins.pm line 66.
12:34 nlegrand             Youpi! I finally have a koha instance with a loaded plugin ^^
11:55 drojf                oh great, i see people come and go, but not what they write. excellent app :D
11:35 * cait               hates the cart email right now
11:26 drojf                no timestamps and newest on top. odd
11:25 drojf                weird app, but maybe connected
11:24 drojf                test
11:22 drojf                hm this is no fun. later
11:21 drojf                ah right, i am not the only one with a weird phone os :p
11:19 cait                 brb
11:19 cait                 nokia n9 - meego
11:18 drojf                n9?
11:15 cait                 i tried 3 or so, the one i have now works reasonably well - but it's for n9 :(
11:15 drojf                funny how they label it firefox os 3.0 while the most basic needs are not covered ;)
11:15 drojf                i tried one but it did not work
11:14 cait                 hm i have an irc app on my phone :)
11:13 drojf                that webirc could be a bit more mobile friendly
11:13 drojf                hi cait :)
11:12 wahanui              i haven't a clue, drojf
11:12 drojf                wahanui: well, you know... hiw about you?
11:12 * cait               waves
11:11 wahanui              what's up, drojf
11:11 drojf                hi
10:33 cait                 waaah!
10:04 mtj                  ..i might have a go at backporting it to 3.18
10:02 huginn`              04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14044 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Backslashes ( and possibly other characters ) break patron search
10:02 mtj                  yuck, just bumped into bug 14044 on 3.18
09:35 nlegrand             Hey #koha !
08:28 seltmann             hm, maybe because of a koha update? as i logged into the webinstaller it told me of some database upgrades and all went fine. and after log in again the normal intranet backend login showed up and the opac was available again
08:24 seltmann             must be something filebased. database didnt change
08:20 seltmann             can anybody tell me, what causes the webinstaller to show up?
08:14 seltmann             hello
07:45 gaetan_B             hello
07:10 huginn`              Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
07:10 Francesca            @wunder wlg
07:00 alex_a               bonjour
06:41 wahanui              salut, reiveune
06:41 reiveune             hello
05:41 huginn`              Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
05:41 Francesca            @wunder wlg
04:57 huginn`              cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 9.7°C (4:50 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
04:57 cdickinson           @wunder lower hutt
00:46 huginn`              Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
00:46 Francesca            @wunder wlg
00:27 tcohen               eythian: that's just proprietary functionalities, is that what they have to show?
00:20 Francesca            right
00:19 eythian              I've never used it
00:14 Francesca            Not that I use windows anymore but out of curiosity
00:14 Francesca            do you think its a good browser?
00:13 eythian              http://imgur.com/a/PVh8c <-- this explains Microsoft's browser program, alright.