Time Nick Message 23:22 Francesca can't spell today 23:22 Francesca oops tcohen 23:21 Francesca hey tchohen 23:21 tcohen hi Francesca 23:20 Francesca anyone around? 23:16 Francesca hi 22:52 eythian g'day 22:52 tcohen hi eythian 22:39 eythian hi 22:18 cait hm and dependency is failed qa 22:17 cdickinson I don't think I could have said that any less insensitively 22:17 cait maybe it IS to late for this 22:17 cait ah ok.. dependency 22:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14517 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Private lists browsing broken in translated staff interface 22:17 cait hm path for bug 14517 doesn't apply for me :( 22:17 cdickinson wizzyrea: well, they're not there during the day and normal people aren't usually around at night, so it boggles me why they care about that so much 22:16 tcohen hi cait 22:16 cait hi tcohen 22:16 wahanui kia ora, tcohen 22:16 tcohen hi 22:15 wizzyrea which I think is really irritating. 22:14 wizzyrea which is code for "there were too many bums so we put benches with armrests out" 22:14 wizzyrea they took out the comfortable benches in the Kilbirnie town centre because people were "zoning out" on them 22:14 wizzyrea I don't know if that's a sad trombone moment or not... 22:13 * cdickinson lives in Naenae, where drug kids get busted every other day 22:13 wizzyrea and kiddo goes to the school in lyall bay. 22:13 * wizzyrea lives in melrose, thusly looks at lyall bay every day. 22:13 wizzyrea that's a discussion for another day. 22:13 cdickinson yeah, Lyall Bay has THE beach in Wellington 22:13 wizzyrea maybe it should be. 22:12 wizzyrea it's not rongotai bay, after all. 22:12 wizzyrea I was sad, I would have thought that lyall bay was at least on par with rongotai :P 22:12 wizzyrea there's a video of it out there 22:12 cdickinson it made me chuckle 22:11 huginn` cdickinson: The operation succeeded. 22:11 cdickinson @later tell Francesca <wizzyrea> it was like RONGOTAI and then "kilbirnie lyall bay houghton bay owhiro bay" because we're not special enough for our own slide. ^.^ 22:01 wizzyrea life better now. 22:00 wizzyrea eythian++ for telling me about why I was always having to use the whole stupid URL for pushing to git. 21:51 wizzyrea it was like RONGOTAI and then "kilbirnie lyall bay houghton bay owhiro bay" because we're not special enough for our own slide. ^.^ 21:51 wizzyrea ah they talked about kilbirnie, it was one of the ones that scrolled past near Rongotai 21:49 cait khall++ 21:49 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 21:49 cait @later tell jajm can you please take a look at kyle's comment on bug 13321? 21:46 Francesca hahahaha you do that 21:46 cdickinson I guess I'll go sulk in the shower 21:46 wahanui :) 21:46 Francesca wahanui botsnack cookie 21:46 Francesca hahahaha upstaged by a bot :P 21:46 cdickinson wow, the drama of my comment was totally ruined by wahanui 21:45 Francesca *creepy 21:45 Francesca screepy 21:45 drojf nooooo 21:45 wahanui I watch you sleep. 21:45 drojf good night 21:45 cdickinson hopefully that's the only time you got the short end of the stick 21:43 Francesca oh shush 21:43 cdickinson I know :P 21:43 Francesca I'm one of the shortest in the choir 21:42 Francesca yeah 21:41 cdickinson Lame 21:41 cdickinson but you were still stuck behind a tall person? 21:41 Francesca They moved us into a VIP area 21:41 Francesca yeah 21:41 cdickinson ahh, so you stayed behind to watch the rerun 21:40 Francesca yeah and when they repeated it at the end I ended up behind really tall people 21:39 cdickinson well, you were facing the wrong way in the choir group so that's perfectly excusable, Francesca 21:39 Francesca hey wizzyrea :) 21:39 Francesca not that I could see very easily 21:39 Francesca they didn't mention kilbirnie though 21:38 cdickinson but Petone got its own mention even though it's a suburb of Lower Hutt.... 21:38 cdickinson wizzyrea: I was there for that, it annoyed me abit 21:37 cdickinson get back to work, miss 21:37 wizzyrea must have really been annoying that the wellington birthday party included lower hutt as a suburb of wellington :P 21:37 Francesca IRC is an excellent distraction from early morning lectures 21:37 Francesca :P 21:37 Francesca fair enough 21:37 cdickinson just a by the way, Lower Hutt is a city, not a suburb :P 21:36 Francesca nope 21:36 huginn` Francesca: Error: No such location could be found. 21:36 Francesca @wunder kelburn 21:36 Francesca lets give it a try 21:36 cdickinson No idea 21:36 Francesca I'm curious now 21:36 Francesca or brooklyn? 21:36 Francesca hey does that work for kelburn? 21:36 cdickinson bleh 21:36 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 8.5°C (9:30 AM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 21:36 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt 21:35 cait :) 21:34 Francesca I'd take slightly warmer but not normal summer over wellington winter any day 21:34 Francesca but nicer than here! 21:34 Francesca oh dear 21:33 cait Francesca: still not 'normal' for summer! :) 21:31 drojf development even 21:31 drojf tmcmahon: shortcuts work for me as intended in master (latest devekeopment version) 21:25 Francesca you've got the warmer weather 21:25 Francesca can't blame you 21:25 cait hmmm nope 21:25 Francesca wanna swap? 21:25 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 16.9°C (11:24 PM CEST on July 28, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 21:25 cait @wunder konstanz 21:23 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 21:23 Francesca @wunder wlg 21:23 wahanui thanks Francesca :) 21:23 Francesca wahanui: botsnack cookie 21:18 Francesca hmmm I may be actually inclined to agree with that this morning 21:17 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 21:17 Francesca good morning 21:14 tmcmahon The patch is older than the new version that's not working the way I'm used to. 21:13 tmcmahon I'll check it out. 21:13 drojf so maybe that's not it 21:12 drojf tmcmahon: but as far as i understand the patch, it has the shortcuts you were used to 21:12 tmcmahon It's been a while since I've been here. Didn't recognize the bot name or what you said before I got the info. Thanks drojf. 21:11 * cait waves 21:10 drojf hi rangi 21:10 drojf tmcmahon: huginn` is just a bot :) the patch is newer than your old version 21:08 huginn` tmcmahon: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 21:08 tmcmahon huginn`: I think that was one that I saw when i was looking for info on it. I figured this was different because it was marked closed and fixed. 21:08 bag afternoon rangi 21:08 rangi morning 21:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, CLOSED FIXED, Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 21:07 drojf bug 11035 21:04 tmcmahon I think I'm the only one here who will notice. I like to avoid the mouse if I can. 21:02 bag hmm I didn’t even know there were hotkeys like that! I guess I really am a slave of the mouse 21:00 cait hm i am not aware of a change there - not sure when it happened or why 20:59 tmcmahon cait: On the old version, check out was U, check in was R and search was Q. The current one has check out=R, check in=Q and search the catalog=U. 20:54 cait tmcmahon: hm there are not many hotkeys in Koha - are you thinking of something speicific? 20:54 cait cool, no hurry :) 20:53 bag hey cait pianohacker will be back tomorrow (he’s on a vacation day today) 20:53 tmcmahon I'm testing 3.20.02 for an upgrade to an old version of Koha (3.06.04) and was wondering if there are any known problems or changes with the hotkeys or accesskeys in the new version intranet interface. 20:52 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 20:52 cait @later tell pianohacker ping me when you are around? 20:40 cait hi #koha 20:19 bag if I was an item - I would want to be shelved with the cooking books? 20:18 drojf heh 20:18 bag the item wants to keep making fine money - so it refuses to return 20:18 drojf but seriously, never seen it 20:17 drojf bag: try thinking like an item. what would make you unreturnable? 19:36 bag so weird 19:36 bag anyone ever seen - unable to return item? Like I just can’t check an item in 18:29 wahanui tcohen: that doesn't look right 18:29 tcohen change the mapping to (for example 995$s) and repeat the SELECT 18:29 tcohen xarragon: do SELECT frameworkcode,tagfield,tagsubfield FROM marc_subfield_structure WHERE kohafield="biblio.biblionumber"; 18:28 jcamins In order for Koha to still be useful you would have to update the Zebra configuration too. 18:28 drojf there is no 999 on that wiki page, just 995 :P 18:27 tcohen xarragon: the marc framework <-> koha table mapping is applied no matter what framework you use 18:27 jcamins Basically 999 is inviolable. 18:26 xarragon I guess it also depends on what framworks are in use, and whether I set those prefs in the test code. 18:26 xarragon Many thanks! 18:11 jcamins I believe that page also describes 999. 18:11 huginn` jcamins: unknown tag 952 18:11 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 18:11 jcamins @marc 952 18:11 huginn` jcamins: unknown tag 999 18:11 jcamins @marc 999 18:03 xarragon " locally-defined MARC 21 field 999" 18:02 xarragon Weird thing is I cant find any info on what tag 999 even is 17:58 xarragon That seems to happen in _koha_marc_update_bib_ids 17:57 xarragon Yeah I guess. When I add the fields manually, with the value 48 (earlier output), they get tunred into the value 52. 17:55 tcohen because I'm sure it is a feature, not a bug 17:55 tcohen you need to fix the tests, to address that current behaviour 17:54 xarragon Hence my tests fails, as they expect the clean record (only having tag 245, subfield a and c). 17:53 xarragon Well in this case it is a test where I build records manually using Test::builder, send them through a bunch of underlying data processing usbroutines. Then as the final test I just retrieve the record using GetMarcBiblio, at which point the 999 tag is magically added somehow. 17:49 tcohen i mean, whatever field+subfield biblio.biblionumber is mapped to 17:48 tcohen xarragon: i think it will append whatever is mapped 17:46 xarragon Is it normal to have a 999 field magically appended to a record retrieved using GetMarcBiblio 16:31 gaetan_B bye ! 16:03 reiveune bye 14:33 khall cait: will do! 14:33 cait and if you could keep in mind my 'no items on the record' use case it owuld be great :) 14:33 khall I'll let you know when it's worth looking at! 14:33 cait it's certainly interesting and something i have been asked about 14:33 cait i will wait to see waht you come up with :) 14:32 cait but something i think that needs to be decided in the very beginning 14:32 khall cait: the request will never have to be linked to a specific item, and nothing will stop a patron from being able to make requests on bibs with no items 14:32 cait i know... i tend to complicate things... 14:32 cait or if it's an analytic 14:31 cait that's what i am puzzling about right now 14:31 cait if it's electronic 14:31 cait khall: the problem is - the record might have no item :) 14:31 khall cait: I'm going to make the selection similar to how we do holds so they can choose just the record, or a specific item 14:31 khall I don't want to assume a record has a 773 but that would be pretty nice as an addition! 14:30 cait so it's linked to an item, not the record? 14:30 cait hmm 14:30 khall cait: yes, that is correct. 14:30 cait for which items to offere the document delivery option? 14:30 khall cait: my plan is to add it to the circ rules 14:29 vfernandes exit 14:29 cait maybe if it's already an article, you could pull the information from 773 14:29 cait sounds good 14:29 khall it's nothing too complicated. Patrons pick a record and tell the library what the title, author, pages etc of the part of the book they want are 14:28 cait we have a library that might be interested in that 14:27 khall I'm starting on it right now. I wrote one already that piggy-backed off the holds system, but I don't like that so I'm starting fresh 14:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add ability to place document delivery / article requests in Koha 14:27 cait khall: interesting! bug 14610 - do you have specs for that? :) 13:37 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13948: DBRev 3.21.00.016 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aac6c2687155e61f78f34767c2b2e45160658c90> / Bug 13948: Prevent explosion when Template::Plugin::Stash not installed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0a52bb1981cea372033ccac02430cba761d3def> / Bug 13948: (QA followup) Make dependency optional <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi 13:03 tcohen gaetan_B: thanks 13:02 gaetan_B tcohen: reiveune is Stéphane 12:59 khall np! 12:59 nlegrand khall: ho right, thanks :) 12:56 khall Koha::Plugins->new({ enable_plugins => 1 })->GetPlugins( 'report' ); 12:56 khall nlegrand: also, you nee to instantiate the object 12:51 khall nlegrand: I do believe that is inherited from Module::Pluggable 12:50 nlegrand Well, if you're not far away khall maybe you'll have some inputs? ^^ 12:50 nlegrand Can't locate object method "plugins" via package "report" (perhaps you forgot to load "report"?) at /home/koha/koha-src/Koha/Plugins.pm line 61. 12:50 nlegrand And when I try to use the function as said in "Usage": $ perl -MKoha::Plugins -E 'say Koha::Plugins::GetPlugins("report")' 12:50 reiveune tcohen: ping 12:49 nlegrand I'm still lost in plugins, I don't understand a part of Koha/Plugins.pm in function GetPlugins: my @plugin_classes = $self->plugins(); (line 61) 12:47 nlegrand hey tcohen :) 12:47 tcohen hi nlegrand 12:47 nlegrand Hey #koha 12:44 tcohen gaetan_B: stephane's patch has a problem, is he around? 12:39 tcohen I will ammend the original patch 12:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10961 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Error in GetMarcBiblio can cause severe data loss 12:39 tcohen gaetan_B: it's ok, I'm just looking at bug 10961 12:37 gaetan_B Stéphane is reiveune here if that helps tcohen 12:33 drojf curious :) maybe he did an upgrade 12:32 khall not that I'm aware of drojf 12:31 drojf khall: do you have a virtual appliance of 3.16 available? someone on the zebra list says he got 3.16 from your website, but i only see 3.8 12:29 khall np! 12:29 tcohen khall: thanks 12:28 khall tcohen: looks like it was first uploaded by mailto:stephane.delaune@biblibre.com 12:28 khall tcohen: nope, doesn't look like mine 12:27 tcohen khall: is this patch yours? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=41183 12:27 tcohen hi cait 12:27 cait morning tcohen :) 12:25 tcohen morning 11:51 cait cool :) 11:43 vfernandes the patch should solve the problem 11:43 vfernandes the RSS is now working correctly 11:43 vfernandes I solve the problem of URL encoding using jQuery 11:42 cait are you sure the patch doesn't fix the problem? 11:42 cait i had the same problem with the bug above 11:42 cait i might have an older problem 11:38 vfernandes humm on FF the link works fine 11:36 cait firefox doesn't show me the xml - only offers to subscribe for a dynamic bookmark and that remains empty 11:35 cait or 3.16 - caused by the latest security fixes 11:35 cait it doesn't work for me at all in 3.18 11:31 vfernandes the RSS doesn't look correct 11:30 vfernandes look at the second link 11:30 vfernandes my problem is with the RSS structure 11:30 vfernandes cait thats an encoding problem 11:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14524 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Result list RSS feed broken 11:29 cait bug 14524 11:29 cait next release 11:29 cait vfernandes: it's patched for the newest versions i think 11:24 vfernandes http://catalogo.cm-ferreiradozezere.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=harry%20potter&count=50&sort_by=acqdate_dsc&format=rss2 11:23 vfernandes there is a problem with Koha RSS search results: http://catalogo.cm-ferreiradozezere.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=harry+potter&branch_group_limit 11:22 vfernandes hi :) 09:26 seltmann alright. i try a different approach then. thanks 09:25 drojf (that worked for me so i never touched any mta-related stuff again ;) 09:22 drojf i tried to configure nullmailer once and decided to stay away from it. i think there is an article in the wiki about using postfix with a smarthost (like, google, or your own, but a pre-defined account) 09:22 kivilahtio I know how you feel 09:22 kivilahtio for testing purposes... 09:22 cait ew ;) 09:22 kivilahtio for, ex through Google 09:21 kivilahtio cait: the most easiest solution is to sconfigure sendmail to send mail via a proxy 09:20 cait kivilahtio: not sure if that wouldn't be a bit much if they just want to test :) 09:20 kivilahtio Email is far from my field of expertise and my interestes :) 09:20 kivilahtio seltmann: what I would do had I the need to host our own email servers, create a new LXC container which receives the email proxy requests from Koha. 09:19 kivilahtio seltmann: that is how I do it. I don't know of any other implemetnations. Propably you can mek it work however you want with much effort 09:19 kivilahtio then use it as a satellite system to prxy email sending through some email server 09:18 kivilahtio dpkg-reconfigure postfix 09:18 kivilahtio seltmann: apt-get install postfix 09:18 cait i am not a system administrator - so I don't set up these things. My impression is that people use different things, nullmailer, sendmail, exim - and it's configured outside of Koha 09:17 wahanui kivilahtio is working to integrate our SMS provider to Koha 09:17 cait drojf: kivilahtio? 09:16 seltmann im using nullmailer, so the sendmail executable is normally used. nullmailer does not expose an smtp-server at port 25 09:15 cait whatever you use 09:15 cait seltmann: hm it should be using your mta 09:15 cait lari: but solvable issues i think - maybe could be optional 09:14 cait lari: I think one reason we stayed away from phone numbers is that it's not easy to define a general format 09:14 seltmann i have a question: it seems that koha is using smtp to localhost:25 to send mails. is there a way to configure that so it is using sendmail? point is, the server running koha does not provide an smtp server 09:14 cait hi seltmann 09:13 seltmann hello all 09:12 lari cait: For now it appears we only have form validation for e-mails, but in my library we have a validation for phone numbers as well. It would be nice to have these both and maybe something else , all in one place, and bring it out for the community. :) 09:04 kivilahtio lari: I am all in for centralizing duplicated code 09:04 kivilahtio lari: sounds incredibly cool! 09:04 cait lari: what do you mean by different validators? 08:51 lari Hey, I'm working with server-side form validations such as emails and phone numbers and it seems we are using only Email::Valid for now. Instead of having different validators here and there, I think a better idea would be to include all of the validations into one place. Any thoughts? 07:51 drojf morning 07:46 AmitG hi cait 07:44 cait morning #koha 07:26 gaetan_B hello 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:49 reiveune hello 06:42 AmitG hi all 03:32 kivilahtio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svngvOLPd5E 03:32 kivilahtio wow, I thought I really need a beat for today... and I got one :) 00:29 * Francesca waves at wizzyrea and rangi 00:20 rangi safer too 00:20 rangi well sager 00:20 rangi makes running Koha under persistance actually safe 00:19 wizzyrea \o/ best kind of fix :D 00:17 rangi and it gets a fresh connection 00:16 rangi Mon Jul 27 20:01:38 2015] DBD::mysql::db do failed: MySQL server has gone away at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 849. 00:16 rangi we get 00:16 rangi and now 00:16 rangi if ( defined($context->{db_driver}) && $context->{db_driver} eq 'mysql' && $context->{"dbh"} && $context->{"dbh"}->do("SELECT 1") ) { 00:16 rangi i made it 00:16 rangi means, we dont even chekc we are still connnected, we just hand back a dbh object (that may have lost its connection) if we are using mysql 00:15 rangi in dbh in C4::Context 00:15 rangi if ( defined($context->{db_driver}) && $context->{db_driver} eq 'mysql' && $context->{"dbh"} ) { 00:15 rangi i think i just fixed a bug that had been annoying me for ages