Time Nick Message 22:41 wahanui hi, BobB 22:41 BobB hi 22:31 eythian hi 21:52 pianohacker pfft 21:52 wahanui pi is fine. glad i made a new card with fresh debian and koha stable before so i can still play with it ;) 21:52 pianohacker wahanui: pi 21:52 wahanui pianohacker: i'm not following you... 21:52 pianohacker wahanui: sqrt(pi) 21:48 wahanui 4320 21:48 cait wahanui: 72*60 21:48 cait 72*60 21:43 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.2°C (11:43 PM CEST on July 21, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 21:43 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:57 cait i normally find out hte module pretty fast and then look what is there with a group ... and work it out 20:57 cait barton: sorry, don't have a list 20:56 barton ... if anyone has even a partial list, I'd be happy to start a wiki page on it... 20:55 barton does anyone have documentation about how to query action_logs for various modules? For example, when module = CIRCULATION, you can query action_logs by info, where the value of 'info' is the itemnumber. ... sometimes 'object' is the key... has anyone written down all of the possible combinations of MODULE and what to join on? 20:30 rangi doh he's gone 20:30 rangi tthe 2nd one 20:29 rangi hmm http://apps.getpebble.com/en_US/application/55a814b60dc1ceb35f000003 20:29 rangi https://dev-portal.getpebble.com/applications/55a814b60dc1ceb35f000003 20:29 rangi you saw the watchface eh? 20:28 tcohen missing perl module 20:28 tcohen ah, yes 20:28 rangi master is red 20:28 tcohen i'm heading home 20:28 rangi yep 20:27 tcohen will u be around in about an hour? 20:27 rangi my watch is telling me 20:27 rangi hey tcohen 20:27 tcohen hi rangi 20:24 rangi yep 3.20.2 will be out as soon as i have the po files 19:59 Shane-S plus the .2 19:59 Shane-S well I am out...thanks again. I am sure I will be back tomorrow or some time soon figuring out the html/css changes I customized. 19:57 Shane-S lol well at least it wasn't like some linux/bsd installs...that leave you like this http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/000/578/1234931504682.jpg (image, safe for work..unless "F and U" aren't allowed) 19:54 drojf congratulations. to get more practise, i think 3.20.2 is coming tomorrow 19:54 Shane-S ty for the help drojf ! 19:54 Shane-S Love you guys for making this thing easy! 19:54 Shane-S woot! aside from the customized HTML/CSS I have to fix..I am now on 3.20 19:44 drojf good timing ;) 19:44 drojf i just opened the window while waiting for something to load :D 19:43 Shane-S drojf: ty, you are quicker then my google skills...I was just reading that ;) 19:42 drojf apt-get dist-upgrade 19:41 Shane-S so I did my update/upgrade and now it says i have 3 packages held back, koha-common being one...should I force it, or do I have to do a fresh install? 18:45 drojf you 18:45 drojf after yo did the update again, yes 18:44 Shane-S so if memory serves... sudo apt-get upgrade ? 18:42 Shane-S I think I remember that from the install guides...I can look there too 18:42 Shane-S drojf: ty 18:42 drojf its in the koha_on_debian wiki page 18:42 drojf i typed that from my head, hope its ok :D 18:42 drojf wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - 18:42 drojf Shane-S: do 18:40 pastebot "Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Apt-get Update error" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/11 18:38 Shane-S am I connected? 18:33 Shane-S Now to export the files...then I can try for an upgrade/update 18:32 Shane-S drojf: Luckily all I had to do was add the backupdir directive to the main site xml conf file. Worked 17:25 wnickc hi nengard 17:25 nengard hi wnickc 16:33 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 27.0°C (6:20 PM CEST on July 21, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 16:33 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 15:24 drojf later #koha 15:21 drojf where $metadump is the name of the output and $name is your instance 15:21 drojf and tars up the config files with tar -C / -czf "$metadump" "etc/koha/sites/$name" "etc/apache2/sites-available/$instancefile" "etc/apache2/sites-enabled/$instancefile" \ "var/lib/koha/$name" \ "var/log/koha/$name" 15:19 drojf *it gzips the file 15:19 drojf not that i now of. but it is basically what is on the wiki, plus it makes a gips the file. mysqldump --databases --host="$mysqlhost" --user="$mysqluser" --password="$mysqlpass" "$mysqldb" | gzip > "$dbdump" 15:17 Shane-S okay thank you starting point since I can't figure out what it is doing...does the dump have a log file? 15:17 drojf and use the parameters from your koha-conf.xml 15:16 drojf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/scripts/koha-dump;h=bf4bd5f3318bcc34fc62db6a42318c766ea124eb;hb=HEAD that is the latest, you could just extract what commands are used in there 15:15 Shane-S http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha ; http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-dump 15:15 drojf have you checked the wiki? 15:14 drojf you could try to use a more recent version of koha-dump. but there have been other changes, so you would also need koha-functions.sh 15:14 Shane-S are there manual backup instructions that are valid anywhere? 15:12 drojf sorry, that is ancient. no idea 15:12 drojf oh 15:12 Shane-S drojf: 3.12.05.000 15:11 barton tcohen++ 15:11 barton khall++ 15:11 barton koha::logger++ 15:11 Shane-S I should get the version...hang on 15:11 Shane-S drojf: do I need like koha-dump -v it doesn't tell me by default 15:10 drojf koha-dump should tell you where the backup goes 15:09 Shane-S I never messed with it, but I can check it 15:09 drojf Shane-S: do you have a different backupdir set in your koha-conf.xml by any chance? 15:06 pastebot "Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sites perimissions" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/10 15:05 Shane-S drojf: /etc/koha/sites/ match as well all/xr/r koha-koha and th eother folder is woodbury-koha 15:05 khall thanks handling those followups tcohen! 15:05 pianohacker logging++ 15:05 khall logging++ 15:05 khall woot! 15:04 tcohen khall++ 15:04 reiveune bye 15:02 Shane-S drojf: /var/spool/koha/ both folders are all/xr/r root/root (checking instances now) 15:00 Shane-S drojf: nope will do that 14:58 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14167: (QA followup) new entries in koha-conf.xml should be tested in about.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2331a21cc8901ee69a57a7ade472b4b21c29e5b6> / Bug 14167: (QA followup) use warn instead of just STDERR <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b69beb2499f1f8da4c02a5a593fbeb3221d5ef8b> / Bug 14167: (QA followup) Tidy Koha/Logger.pm <http://git.koha-commun 14:55 drojf and compared those to the other instance 14:55 drojf Shane-S: have you checked what the permissions are of a) the backup folder b) the instance folder? 14:53 khall tcohen: that looks excellent to me. 14:53 tcohen heh 14:53 tcohen someone will fix it if needed 14:52 tcohen khall: this is how it looks http://snag.gy/WQijQ.jpg 14:52 tcohen ok :-D 14:51 khall tcohen: that sounds good to me! 14:51 khall ? 14:51 wahanui it has been said that khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) 14:51 tcohen khall? 14:50 tcohen add it, pointing to the log4perl.conf file for your Koha instance." 14:50 tcohen "You are missing the <log4perl_conf> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please 14:50 tcohen how does this read? 14:48 Shane-S lost as to how to get my main instance backed up so I can update the server 14:47 Shane-S I did koha-dump koha and it got permission errors, preceeded with sudo..and no error...but the /var/spool/koha/koha folder is not updating like "woodbury" does 14:46 Shane-S Hi I have 2 instances...."koha" and another called "woodbury". I installed via packages some time ago (2 years now)...doing koha-run-backups "woodbury" gets a backup...but my original and first instance "koha" is stuck on Oct 2013 14:43 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 14:43 drojf @later tell wizzyrea polylang for multilingual wordpress sites is pretty straight forward. i installed it in mine now. you can choose a set of available languages, choose a language for all content already available, translate strings like site name, and then translate every single page and posting (if you like) and create menus on a per language basis. I have not done much, but you can try it at http://koha.abunchofthings.net 14:35 fridolin seeeee u 14:15 kivilahtio take care #koha 14:08 tcohen s/r$/t$/ 14:07 tcohen once Joubu shows around we can talk about ir 14:07 kivilahtio ok ok 14:07 tcohen ok, the ball is on your side of the field then :-D 14:07 kivilahtio so I don't feel like I can give the best answer now 14:07 kivilahtio tcohen: And I would need to get back to how Exception::Class works and think of the subclassing capabilities and passing more information in the exceptions. 14:06 kivilahtio tcohen: but that is mostly due to limitations in perl. 14:06 tcohen will check with cait once she's back online 14:06 kivilahtio tcohen: but it would be best if we could pick one way of doing things, my approach is not very good if you want lots of very specific exceptions 14:06 tcohen so I guess it should be next week 14:06 tcohen and we missed the 3-week timeframe already 14:05 tcohen kivilahtio: we didn't set a date for the next dev meeting 14:04 kivilahtio tcohen: But I totally understand his approach and I think they both can coexist :) 14:04 tcohen and was asking for feedback 14:04 tcohen he didn't reach the point he's happy with the approach 14:04 kivilahtio ok 14:04 tcohen on his email he explained this is WIP 14:03 kivilahtio tcohen: the exception system should be in its own bug, but maybe this is WIP nad things are just for testing 14:03 kivilahtio tcohen: also I find it strange that he introduces out of blue a new exception system inside an unrelated feature 14:03 kivilahtio tcohen: when is the next dev meeting? 14:02 kivilahtio Koha::Exceptions 14:01 kivilahtio tcohen: problem here is that all the submodule (Virtualshelves) exceptions are in one file. 14:01 tcohen ok, worth discussing on a dev meeting 14:01 kivilahtio tcohen: kinda 14:01 kivilahtio but you shouldnt use specific exceptions if tehre is a matching general exception, like there most of the time is 14:01 tcohen kivilahtio: so it is not competing with your work? 14:00 wahanui okay, kivilahtio. 14:00 kivilahtio tcohen: it is also a good idea to introduce your specific Exceptions like joubu is doing 13:59 tcohen ok, i'll put this on next dev mettings' agenda 13:59 kivilahtio tcohen: we have discussed about it 13:59 kivilahtio tcohen: He knows of my exceptions system 13:59 tcohen his is just WIP for now 13:58 tcohen maybe point him to your work on the bug 13:58 tcohen i'm glad to see we are all on the same path 13:57 tcohen http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=41039 13:57 kivilahtio tcohen: I am not seeing exceptions in 14544 13:56 kivilahtio I am checking 13:55 tcohen take a look? 13:55 tcohen could you? 13:55 tcohen and he's using yours 13:55 tcohen or maybe I got it wrong 13:55 kivilahtio :) 13:55 tcohen unless it is better than yours 13:55 tcohen he shouldn't 13:55 tcohen kivilahtio: Joubu's work is here: 14544. Please take a look, it is possible that he's introducing a different exception system 13:46 kivilahtio this casting system? 13:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14539 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Introduction to castToObject(), aka. make a Koha::Object from various input types 13:46 kivilahtio Also what do you think about Bug 14539 13:45 kivilahtio or are we talking about it? or just Exceptions? 13:45 kivilahtio have you taken a look at hte permission system rewrite? 13:45 khall yes, keep at it! 13:45 kivilahtio well I am happy that you like my work :) 13:45 kivilahtio ok 13:45 tcohen "Move list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves" 13:45 tcohen kivilahtio: it was an email to koha-devel 13:44 tcohen (i get emails for every filled bug 13:44 tcohen kivilahtio: i don't find it right now, i read it on my inbox a couple days ago 13:44 kivilahtio khall: can we really ? :) 13:44 khall kivilahtio: that's fine. We can always go back an rejigger that stuff at the end if need be. 13:43 kivilahtio khall: that is how it works in Java and I guess in all other languages, we should avoid having very specific exceptions 13:43 kivilahtio khall: the Exceptions are very broad and general. Reusable across all modules 13:43 kivilahtio khall: I dont know I am baking them as I go 13:42 kivilahtio tcohen: which patch joubu wrote? 13:42 khall that's good to know kivilahtio. I was concerned that it would be the opposite. Is there a middle ground where we have a module for each group of exceptions ( a module for Circ exceptions, a module for holds expections, etc ) 13:42 kivilahtio we dont end up with one exception file with 10 000 rows of code 13:42 kivilahtio also it is more clear where the Exceptions come from 13:42 kivilahtio also we can subcleass the parent Exception class more easily and add more features when they are in separate files 13:41 kivilahtio khall: yeah. I think it is much easier to maintanin when each exception has its own file 13:41 khall I think you created one module per exception, where this other patch uses one module with multiple exceptions 13:41 kivilahtio having good progress with the authentication rewrite 13:41 tcohen yeah, Joubu already wrote a patch using them 13:40 khall kivilahtio: if I recall, I saw one other bug with a patch adding exceptions. 13:40 kivilahtio khall: I just finished writing PageObject tests to test for regression in anonymous search history 13:40 tcohen I think Joubu mentioned them in one bug 13:40 khall kivilahtio: I saw that patch and am very jazzed about it 13:40 kivilahtio other than from OPL 13:40 kivilahtio I haven't got much feedback 13:40 tcohen hi kivilahtio 13:40 kivilahtio khall: nice to hear :) 13:40 khall also, exceptions++ 13:39 khall np! 13:39 tcohen thanks! 13:39 tcohen khall: thanks, will push Koha::Logger along with a followup for that 13:39 tcohen khall: I guess at some point we will rewrite them as exceptions raised once kivilahtio's work is in 13:39 khall tcohen: Marcel wrote that bit. I don't see any reason it should not be using warn 13:36 tcohen it is in the AUTOLOAD block 13:35 tcohen I was about to write proper tests for those warnings and realised it is printed to STDERR 13:35 khall tcohen: let me take a look 13:35 tcohen khall: do u think we could change 'print STDERR' -> warn ? in Koha::Logger 13:20 jajm anyway, no need to ask for that kind of change ;) 13:19 jajm tcohen, not my bug, it's everyone's bug :) 13:17 tcohen jajm: it is your bug, I need to ask :-D 13:17 jajm tcohen, yes of course 13:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) 13:14 tcohen jajm: do u think we could rename bug 6874? Maybe something like "Attach files to bibliographic records" 12:59 tcohen hi drojf ! 12:59 drojf hi tcohen 12:45 tcohen morning 09:43 drojf active installs 100000+ sounds promising :) 09:43 drojf at least it is still supported 09:42 drojf polylang https://wordpress.org/plugins/polylang/ 09:42 drojf or was it the one we used? 09:41 drojf i have not tried it yet but it looks like its working for people 09:41 drojf wizzyrea_ did you have a look at… i forgot the name. poly… whatever i send you ;) 09:39 wizzyrea_ anyway, made exactly 0 headway on my supposed test failures. meh will chase it up tomorrow. 09:38 wizzyrea_ should chase that up some day soon, find a replacement. 09:37 wizzyrea_ so we took it off 09:37 wizzyrea_ we had a translation plugin on there for a while, it went out of support or the people stopped supporting it or something 09:37 wizzyrea_ oh, regarding translation 09:37 wizzyrea_ lol 09:22 drojf touch one thing, repair something completely different. feels like reverse css 09:20 drojf but it repaired the touchpad by accident! #win 09:18 drojf that did change exactly nothing about the fan noise. my work here is done ;) 09:10 drojf now that i cleaned the fan… i could check the non-working touchpad. or, maybe not 09:09 drojf yesss, the magical repairperson tape. that makes it reparable only by "certified" service people 09:05 wizzyrea_ and it has to be the kind of tape you can't buy at the normal electronics shop, that isn't sticky once you peel it off. 09:04 wizzyrea_ oh or make the tape have an actual functional purpose, like insulating between parts. That's always a good one. 09:03 drojf yeah right, put some tape below the keyboard so people search for what they think is an extra screw forever 08:44 drojf get 08:44 drojf hehe yes we will gtet back to that soon :) 08:44 wizzyrea_ or the rule that when putting a laptop back together, you must always have one tiny screw left over. 08:43 drojf i wonder who made the rule that on every notebook, one screw is broken 08:37 wizzyrea_ :/ 08:36 drojf hp-- # screw your hexagon screws 08:34 drojf hi wizzyrea_ 08:24 wizzyrea_ hm, jenkins says I have tests failing but I can't get them to fail here. 08:20 wahanui kia ora, wizzyrea_ 08:20 wizzyrea_ hi 08:08 fridolin hie 08:07 indradg hello! 08:06 gaigai_ hi indradg 08:05 gaigai_ hi 08:04 gaigai_ hi any one help me download 08:04 gaigai_ hujh 08:03 gaigai_ fugfgiygi8gytiguigiguilgivhjvhjv.jvv 07:11 dcook Anyway, time for me to head home 07:10 dcook Of course, I wrote it in a way that uses two cronjobs to handle the main work, but later learned POE and now sort of wish that I'd used POE to handle it asynchronously, but... 07:09 dcook I just want it to be useful for people... 07:09 dcook I'm mostly looking forward to feedback 07:09 dcook I'll just be glad when this iteration is done 07:09 dcook :) 07:09 drojf dcook++ # oai-pmh harvesting 07:04 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:04 alex_a bonjour 06:48 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:48 reiveune hello 06:38 * dcook wonders how much indexing would speed up without the obsolete datafields... 06:38 dcook Also... we're indexing a lot of obsolete MARC21 fields... 06:36 dcook Bleargh... we sure do have a lot of fields being indexed into Title:w and Title:p 06:34 * dcook waves 06:31 gaetan_B hello 05:58 dcook Oh God... why am I looking at the source of yaz... 05:57 dcook Which as far as timezones go... really isn't that bad overall.. 05:57 dcook It's always fun when you're playing with 'floating', UTC, and two OlsonDB specific timezones O_O 05:56 dcook Yeah, I found the same in a different project 05:55 mtj i recently discovered the concept of floating timezones in Koha 05:54 dcook Ahh, that'll do it! 05:54 drojf dcook: i'm still asleep. see, i am here so early that you are still there :D 05:53 dcook It's still light here :D 05:53 dcook morning drojf 05:53 drojf morning #koha 05:52 mtj ah, ok 05:51 dcook timezone* 05:51 dcook It's all based on the server time 05:51 dcook the other day, rangi also said we didn't 05:51 dcook mtj: Not that I know of 05:50 mtj dcook: we dont use timezones in koha? 05:49 dcook in zebra-biblios.cfg 05:49 dcook "sortmax" 05:49 dcook Yep... 05:48 dcook Oooo or maybe an issue with our Zebra config... 05:47 dcook Hmm might be another Zebra bug.. 05:35 dcook 1001 might be all right... but 1002 is just the next biblionumber after 1001 05:34 dcook The first 1000 results look like they're sorted correctly 05:34 dcook Oooh that's interesting.. 05:34 dcook Right around the 1001/1002 result mark... 05:33 dcook Oh yeah... 05:32 dcook Ah right... there might be a bug in the sorting for the search results... 05:25 dcook Also... high school drama is the same regardless of country 05:25 * dcook spent some time in Spain watching "fisica o quimica" with Spanish subtitles... learnt so much Spanish 05:25 dcook Laters eythian 05:25 dcook That's the best way to learn Spanish! 05:24 * eythian & 05:24 eythian I have to run, later 05:22 eythian south america has a good amount too, but forces spanish subs on, and while I can turn them off if there's anything not in English I have to puzzle it out myself. 05:22 eythian not very scientific though 05:22 eythian I ran through the top 250 IMDB movie list, and Canada had more than the US from taking a sample. 05:21 dcook I'm quite liking Australian netflix so far 05:21 dcook They'll* 05:21 dcook They're swear up and down that Canadian netflix is inferior to US netflix 05:21 dcook Don't say that to any Canadians 05:21 eythian it's a good one to start from the beginning for 05:21 dcook Waaa? 05:21 eythian heh 05:21 eythian also, Canada netflix has a better range in general than US netflix. 05:21 dcook I think I've only seen about two episodes O_O 05:21 dcook Oooh. I always meant to watch all the X-Files 05:20 eythian currently set to Canada for X-Files 05:20 eythian yeah, I've been going through a good bit of that. 05:19 dcook Also lots of Netflix... so much Netflix 05:19 * dcook says having slept in a lot this weekend 05:19 dcook Someone has to pick up the slack around the house :p 05:19 dcook My wife has been sick, studying part-time, and working full-time 05:19 dcook hehe 05:19 eythian slacker :) 05:19 dcook Didn't have anything to say this year 05:18 * dcook didn't end up sending in a talk 05:18 eythian should get onto that. 05:18 dcook I haven't been to a conference since... Kohacon13 I think, so about time I started getting out there... 05:18 eythian I haven't looked yet 05:18 eythian ah right 05:17 dcook She was saying the latest flight out on the 29th was at 4, but it looks like it's at 6pm? 05:17 dcook Ah, the flights are better than my wife was saying.. 05:16 eythian so, people are usually drifting off from mid afternoon depending on their flight requirements. 05:16 dcook Mmmm k 05:16 eythian it doesn't tend to have a closing event or anything 05:16 eythian it's up to you 05:15 eythian I should probably get on to booking that. 05:15 dcook Do you know what time OSDC is likely to end on the 29th? 05:15 dcook Cool 05:15 eythian it slots in nicely after OSDC 05:15 eythian I haven't booked it yet, but it's my intention 05:15 * dcook was thinking of coming down to Hobart for OSDC 05:14 dcook hey eythian, are you going to Anathema in Sydney in October? 05:12 * dcook has almost gotten through his inbox... and it's only almost the end of the day O_O 05:10 dcook Although I think it'll mostly be re-writing an epic script and trying not to forget to take timezones into account.. 05:09 dcook I think I might have to do some more timezone stuff this week.. 05:09 dcook I bet 05:09 eythian it was quite the project. 05:09 eythian I added timezone support to one of our internal tools here a while back 05:09 eythian yeah 05:09 eythian heh 05:08 * dcook twitches 05:08 dcook But it's super fun 05:08 dcook Not with Koha of course 05:08 * dcook has been doing a lot with timezones lately 05:08 dcook It really really would 05:08 * eythian doesn't want to consider timezones, it'd make everything very complicated. 05:07 dcook mtj: As far as I know, we don't use timezone anymore, so it shouldn't matter 05:07 dcook Boo. Winter should get out... no one likes it anyways. 05:07 eythian outside is darkling quickly tonight. 05:06 dcook When did we get a C4::Context->tz()? 05:06 dcook The hell... 05:06 eythian neat though 05:06 eythian I can't say I had 05:05 mtj hey eythian, did you catch this -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/20/linuxconf_au_andrew_tridgell_ardupilot_linux/ 05:05 mtj dcook: take a look at the patch re: TZ ^ 04:57 dcook hehe 04:57 wahanui eythian: sorry... 04:57 eythian wahanui has issues with change that I've never bothered to figure out. 04:56 mtj so i decided to leave it, as is... and make a followup patch, if needed 04:55 wahanui dcook: i'm not following you... 04:55 dcook wahanui didn't like the sound of that... 04:55 dcook Oh my... 04:55 wahanui dcook: that doesn't look right 04:55 dcook mtj: Change the "time_zone"? 04:54 mtj rangi: i was tempted to change the 'time_zone' on my patch too... but i didnt want to risk additional bugs 04:54 dcook ... "lose" is a really strange word 04:19 rangi when ive got more time to test it thoroughly 04:19 rangi but ill probably put it in 3.20.3 04:19 rangi i think its too close to my release tomorrow to push it for 3.20.2 04:19 rangi sweet 04:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14522 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache for accessing single_holidays() 04:18 mtj im aware it relates to my bug 14522 patch 04:14 mtj yep - ive read it rangi 04:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future 04:14 rangi mtj: have you seen bug 14494 ? 04:06 pianohacker good night all 04:02 eythian hi 04:02 AmitG heya eythian 04:02 eythian which the command is named after 04:02 eythian specifically, stat(2) 04:02 aleisha cool thanks good to know! 04:01 aleisha ohhhhh okay 04:01 dcook At least, that's what I've always figured... 04:01 dcook "stat filename" 04:01 dcook Like the system command 04:01 dcook Nah, that sounds like stat 04:01 aleisha because i feel like stat is supposed to say start 04:00 aleisha but is this a warn written by perl? - script not found or unable to stat: 04:00 aleisha yeah that's what i thought 04:00 dcook "Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at" 04:00 rangi yep 04:00 rangi sometimes a die, or a carp 04:00 dcook Sometimes I think it's Perl itself? 04:00 rangi usually a warn in the script/module 03:59 aleisha what determines the messages in the error logs? like 'file does not exist' or 'script not found' 03:46 wizzyrea aleisha++ 03:43 dcook hehe 03:43 eythian I guess an intelligent donkey 03:43 pianohacker eythian: so, to follow up on your @later, what _does_ smart ass mean in en-trad? 03:43 aleisha heh 03:42 ibeardslee putting it on the stove 03:42 eythian this is not a place for logic and reasonable conversation, aleisha 03:42 * dcook was wondering if that was just a North American expression 03:42 aleisha sometimes you say 'putting the dinner on' as in you're about to cook it 03:42 dcook It's pretty great 03:41 dcook I do like putting food in me 03:41 dcook But it could also be on the sandwich press... 03:41 eythian yourself, traditionally 03:41 dcook I guess it's going to be in the sandwich press... 03:41 dcook In what? 03:41 eythian you put food in 03:41 eythian in. 03:40 dcook Ok, putting food on.. 03:30 pianohacker knew it! http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2009-07-18#i_275707 03:29 wizzyrea kekeke 03:29 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #283: "<ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P" (added by mtompset at 01:29 AM, November 01, 2013) 03:29 wizzyrea @quote random 03:29 wizzyrea :D 03:29 pianohacker *blink* wow, I think I remember that conversation! 03:28 dcook Now I'm getting hungrier... 03:28 * wizzyrea has discovered new and novel ways to use the belly of the hog since moving away from the US. 03:28 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #16: "< wizzyrea> i mean, the point of american bacon is to erm, use the belly of the hog (I think)" (added by chris at 09:37 PM, July 17, 2009) 03:28 wizzyrea @quote random 03:28 pianohacker fair 03:28 dcook hehe 03:28 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009) 03:28 wizzyrea @quote random 03:28 wizzyrea it went on for ages, coulda been anytime 03:27 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 03:27 huginn` pianohacker: Quote #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase that should die, if FOSS is free as in kittens, proprietary software is free as in an inbred purebreed cat. That costs thousands of dollars in vet bills every year and is slightly retarded." (added by wizzyrea at 08:42 PM, August 19, 2010) 03:27 pianohacker @quote random 03:27 pianohacker (the first one) 03:27 wizzyrea hehe 03:27 pianohacker was that before or after the nz trademark nonsense? 03:27 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW" (added by gmcharlt at 05:35 PM, July 24, 2009) 03:27 wizzyrea @quote random 03:27 huginn` pianohacker: Quote #128: "When TDF was founded, the group's leadership invited Oracle to participate in the hope that the database giant would be willing to hand over the OOo trademark and allow the vendor-neutral governance body to take over stewardship of the project" (added by wizzyrea at 07:11 PM, April 18, 2011) 03:27 pianohacker @quote random 03:26 wizzyrea yuss. 03:26 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #315 added. 03:26 wizzyrea @quote add Pianohacker: "crazy" around a bunch of people that are the center of the venn-diagram of programmers and librarians is always a bit relative. 03:26 wizzyrea hrmph. 03:26 huginn` wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 03:26 wizzyrea @quote add Pianohacker: "crazy" around a bunch of people that are the center of the venn-diagram of programmers and librarians is always a bit relative. 03:25 pianohacker "crazy" around a bunch of people that are the center of the venn-diagram of programmers and librarians is always a bit relative 03:24 dcook crazier? more crazy? 03:24 dcook er 03:24 * dcook might be going crazy 03:24 dcook Also crazy busy at prosentient 03:24 dcook Yeah, I've been trying to be better with the normal hours 03:24 dcook hehe 03:21 pianohacker I'm great, busy with bywater 03:21 pianohacker I barely see you since I work vaguely normal hours now 03:21 dcook How about you? 03:21 dcook Mmm hungry. I managed to work through my lunch break :S 03:20 * dcook was wondering if he was really here or if had just been auto-logged on 03:20 pianohacker dcook: How are ya? 03:20 wizzyrea ! 03:20 wahanui I HATE ALMOST EVERYTHING 03:20 dcook pianohacker! 03:20 pianohacker dcook! 03:18 wizzyrea :) 03:15 dcook Huh... it was totally 8 lines. That was a wild guess before. 03:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14575 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , OPACURLOpenInNewWindow should apply to item-level urls too 03:14 dcook bug 14575 02:59 dcook So much easier in the XSLT... 02:59 * dcook would gladly change it is there were a better alternative 02:58 dcook It's only like... 8 lines? 02:55 wizzyrea YOU BETTER NOT BE. 02:52 dcook Yep :) 02:52 eythian now dcook is putting it all back 02:51 dcook :D 02:51 wizzyrea feel comforted that I took out a bunch of duplicate stuff this morning? 02:46 dcook Ah well 02:44 dcook Ugh... duplicating lines of code just to add target="_blank" based on OPACURLOpenInNewWindow... 02:43 * dcook puts his head down and goes back to coding 02:42 dcook Actually, no. That's why I stopped studying polisci 02:42 dcook Should rename #koha to #sadtruths 02:41 dcook Hehe 02:41 rangi tbh they probably asked for it in the first place too :P 02:41 dcook That's a complicated claim to make... 02:41 dcook Well... 02:41 dcook You have to give it to librarians... if there's an inconsistency somewhere, they're going to find it 02:40 dcook laters Francesca 02:40 Francesca see ya later dcook, #koha 02:40 Francesca right gotta bounce 02:32 * Francesca is most defiantly a cat person 02:26 dcook To be fair, they were there when I got there, so... 02:26 * dcook is so not a pet person... despite the two cats he has with his wife... and all the cat photos he posts on social media 02:25 dcook Oh cats 02:23 Francesca which he hates 02:23 Francesca I'm currently trying to keep my injured cat inside the house 02:23 Francesca hahaha 02:21 dcook I'm thinking unplugging the phone is also an idea... 02:20 dcook ibeardslee: I like this idea 02:20 ibeardslee <ctrl><a> <shift><del> 02:20 dcook Take care of my emails so I can do something else? :D 02:19 dcook You could... 02:19 Francesca I really should do something productive before I go out 02:18 * Francesca comes online, takes a look, gets confused and goes away again 02:16 dcook aleisha++ 02:16 dcook ^ 02:16 aleisha nice for them to make sense and stuff 02:16 aleisha but u kno 02:16 aleisha yeah i guess 02:16 dcook Yeah, I think it's just something that Apache is told to use in the event that it is appropriate? 02:16 eythian for example, 402 would never be generated. 02:15 eythian in most cases, they've probably never been seen by humans 02:14 aleisha i want to fix them but i don't understand some of them like why half of them have the same error message 02:14 aleisha the error messages are all weird, have bad english or don't really make sense 02:12 wizzyrea besides that. 02:12 wahanui the context is everything? 02:12 wizzyrea what's the context? 02:11 aleisha it just has the same error message as 400 (broken link) but on wizzyrea's link it says it means 'This code is reserved for future use." 02:11 eythian afaik 02:10 eythian it's pretty much never used 02:10 aleisha what does 402 mean? 'payment required'? 02:05 eythian 401 will cause the browser to ask for a password 02:03 aleisha the OPAC messages are kind of off then 02:03 wizzyrea :) 02:03 aleisha oh i see 02:02 wizzyrea http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html 02:02 aleisha and errors 401 and 403? 02:02 aleisha what is the difference between errors 400 and 402? 02:00 wizzyrea there have been other breakages. 01:58 wizzyrea the most recent was a side effect of the security updates. 01:58 wizzyrea to be fair, it's been broken several times. 01:57 eythian I'm on a few month old master, must have been broken for a while 01:57 wizzyrea (again.) 01:56 huginn` 04Bug 14450: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Stricter template name rules cause itemsearch to stop working 01:56 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14450 < where the item search got fixed 01:54 dcook :) 01:54 wizzyrea hehehe 01:54 wizzyrea ^.^ 01:54 dcook "Down in the dumps, son? Ah, you're just missing the patch that fixes that." 01:54 wizzyrea what, that you're missing the patch that fixes that? 01:54 * dcook feels like that could be said about life in general 01:53 wizzyrea you'll be missing the patch that fixes that. 01:53 wizzyrea ah yeah 01:53 eythian oh well, not my problem right now. 01:53 eythian actually, it's broken for me. The request returns data, but never stops saying "Processing" 01:52 wizzyrea *nod* 01:52 eythian ah, and it's all javascripty but not handling history right 01:51 wizzyrea it's new in... 3.18? 01:51 eythian or at least, noticed it 01:51 eythian I've never seen that before 01:51 wizzyrea so many things that need improving there. I may make it a project. 01:51 eythian ah 01:51 wizzyrea it's a teensy link at the top of the advanced search page. 01:50 wizzyrea from "Search" in the staff client 01:50 eythian how do you even get to it? 01:49 wizzyrea (mind you, I *love* the idea of it. It is why I get so mad.) 01:49 dcook hehe 01:49 wizzyrea pretty sure it is, I poked at it a while back during one of the many times it's been broken 01:49 mtj ta for the alias eythian :) 01:49 dcook Don't think I've seen the itemsearch before... 01:49 wizzyrea ^ 01:49 * dcook imagines it just uses SQL 01:48 eythian well, it works on my ES demo, so I've either changed it, or (more likely) it's doing SQL rather than search. 01:46 wizzyrea though afaict it's basically just a glorified report interface 01:46 wizzyrea ...it hadn't occurred to me that you might like to know about that for your ES stuff... 01:45 wizzyrea cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/itemsearch.pl 01:45 eythian "item search"? 01:45 * dcook generally just spends his days mad now :p 01:45 wizzyrea I get mad every time I use the item search and I press "back" and it takes me to advanced search. 01:39 wizzyrea ^ this is what I use it's awesome 01:37 eythian mtj: lg = log --color --graph --pretty=format:'%Cred%h%Creset -%C(yellow)%d%Creset %s %Cgreen(%cr)%C(bold blue)<%an>%Creset' --abbrev-commit 01:28 mtj rangi: my method before was to use 'git log --oneline' - not your BZ search example :) 01:25 dcook yo mtj :) 01:25 mtj hey dcook :) 01:24 dcook Apparently you need to be on a webpage for them to work... that makes a certain amount of sense.. 01:24 dcook Oh... that's why 01:23 dcook Interesting... just opened IE11 to find the developer tools disabled... 01:18 mtj basically does what i need :) 01:18 mtj rangi: thanks for the search url, its a big improvement 01:11 rangi so you have to look in both places 01:11 rangi or that are slightly different to the patch on the bug, as they have had a merge conflict fixed etc 01:10 rangi because there will be additional thigns pushed, that arent on a bug 01:09 rangi if you dont watch the git log 01:09 rangi however you might miss stuff 01:09 rangi i add it to every bug i push 01:09 mtj ^ thats the method i've settled on, but i often want more BZ filtering options 01:09 rangi basically search for the comment 'pushed to 3.20.x' 01:09 rangi ed%20to%20Stable&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=BLOCKED&f1=longdesc&list_id=136295&o1=allwords&query_format=advanced&v1=pushed%20to%203.20.x 01:09 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=In%20Discussion&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&bug_status=Signed%20Off&bug_status=Passed%20QA&bug_status=Pushed%20for%20QA&bug_status=Failed%20QA&bug_status=Patch%20doesn%27t%20apply&bug_status=Pushed%20by%20Module%20Maintainer&bug_status=Pushed%20to%20Master&bug_status=Push 01:08 rangi however you can get bz to tell you too 01:07 rangi thats how i do it anyway .. switching the dates to make sense of course 01:07 rangi etc 01:07 rangi git log --oneline --since 2015-06-22 01:06 rangi git log --since 2015-06-22 01:05 rangi because there will be changes 01:05 eythian shouldn't you ask git? 01:05 rangi youre better off seeing what patches are in the git log 01:05 mtj its seems not possible? 01:04 mtj serious question, how can i get BZ to tell me what bugs have been pulled to 3.20.x branch ? 01:02 mtj makes perfect sense 01:01 rangi if that makes sense 01:01 rangi (by no attention, means i read each bug report, and check the patches and then decide if I will backport it for 3.20.x, so it having a keyword makes it no more or no less likely to get into a 3.20.x release) 00:59 rangi added 00:58 rangi you can, but ill pay no attention to it 00:58 mtj sorry.. rel_3_20_candidate 00:57 mtj any chance you would add a 'rel_3_18_candidate' keyword to Koha bugzilla? 00:54 rangi whats up? 00:54 rangi yep 00:53 mtj hey #koha 00:53 mtj about rangi? 00:10 dcook I have to re-install these dual monitor drivers all the time, and they're blinking at rather inconvenient times during this process... 00:09 dcook Gah... 00:09 * dcook shrugs 00:09 * eythian doesn't know 00:08 dcook Or is that on my to do list... 00:08 dcook Or has that been done already? I feel like it might have been... 00:08 dcook Really need to make a feature where someone can't delete their own account... 00:06 eythian unfortunately, it does point out that we need a lot of optimisation in Koha::Database somehow. 00:04 eythian http://elasticsearch.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/files/es-search/ <-- I do like NYTProf's profiling