Time  Nick        Message
06:26 * magnuse   waves
08:21 drojf       morning #koha
08:21 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
08:21 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on July 19, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
08:42 magnuse     moin drojf
08:42 magnuse     ooh, rather pleasant?
08:42 magnuse     @wunder boo
08:42 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
08:47 drojf       hei magnuse. yes, only almost dark ;)
08:47 magnuse     ouch?
08:47 wahanui     http://i.imgur.com/SjElkzG.gif
08:48 magnuse     yeah, that looks like a clever thing to do
08:48 drojf       indeed
08:49 drojf       heavy thunderstorms announced. nice :)
08:49 magnuse     woohoo
08:50 drojf       so what's my plan for today? should probably be organizing all my plans in a meaningful way
08:51 drojf       installing redmine looks like a good way to start
08:56 magnuse     having some sort of plan is usually good :-)
09:00 drojf       i have lots of plans :)
09:08 * magnuse   wonders how to get the extended patron attributes from a Koha::Borrower
11:23 drojf       installing redmine is a lot of trial and error :/
11:32 drojf       while i install the ~20. missing dependency, i'd like to take a minute to appreciate how easy it is to install koha these days ;)
11:41 jcamins     drojf: installing Redmine is really easy. You're doing it wrong. :P
11:42 jcamins     $ ansible-playbook -i ./hosts site.yml --tags=redmine
11:42 drojf       jcamins: the next time, when i have the list of debian dependencies before i have to run bundle install 20 times… that may be true
11:42 drojf       heh
11:44 magnuse     kia ora jcamins
11:44 jcamins     Good morning.
11:44 wahanui     the only good morning is a dead one
11:44 jcamins     It's way too hot today.
11:44 jcamins     @wunder 11375
11:44 huginn`     jcamins: The current temperature in Forest Park, New York, New York is 26.0°C (7:44 AM EDT on July 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising).  Heat advisory in effect from 11 am this morning to 6 PM EDT Monday...
11:45 jcamins     Thing to keep in mind when looking at that temperature: it's 7:45am
11:45 drojf       ugh
11:45 magnuse     ouch!
11:45 magnuse     @wunder boo
11:45 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
11:45 jcamins     Thank goodness we have a new air conditioning unit.
11:46 drojf       we had a lot of rain now and the sky turned from dark grey to light grey. woohoo
11:46 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
11:46 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
11:48 magnuse     down from 19 earlier today, eh
11:52 drojf       yes, it's really nice now
11:53 drojf       well, less clouds would be ok, but you can't have everything
11:59 magnuse     so true :-)
11:59 drojf       "If you need to load gems that are not required by Redmine core" how would i know that?
11:59 drojf       ruby is weird
12:02 drojf       but what i like about it is, i have no idea what i am doing
12:08 drojf       bundle exec rake… makes me think of http://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Rake
12:09 drojf       or rather http://simpsonswiki.com/w/images/a/a3/Sideshow_Bob_Rakes.jpg
12:13 jcamins     drojf: that's why my preferred installation method is to just use Ansible.
12:14 drojf       i may do that next time. looks like it is working now
12:16 drojf       so before i organize my projects, i have a new project "find out how to organize the other projects in the project organizing thing". i think i am doing this wrong :P
12:16 jcamins     Hehe.
12:34 magnuse     nothing another layer of indirection can't solve
13:18 magnuse     4 weeks of holiday ahead - have fun, #koha!
13:27 drojf       maybe i just don't get how item search works, but i can't get it to do more than show "processing"?
13:35 drojf       yes, i can. if i choose csv output i can break it completely :)
13:53 drojf       looks like it is bug 14440 and fixed in master
13:53 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14440 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , get_template_and_user can not have an empty template_name
15:06 cait        drojf: which version?
15:06 wahanui     which version is recommended?
15:06 cait        ah, you found out already - has it's own bug even
15:07 drojf       erm. how funny that i accidentally discovered that sites called 'demo' are not backed up by koha-run-backups. how is that supposed to be expected?
15:09 cait        not at all?
15:12 drojf       nope
15:12 drojf       its mentioned in the script itself. not anywhere else as far as i can tell. certainly not in the wiki
21:04 rangi       morning
21:05 rangi       @later tell drojf yep when its bundled with the software its gpl3
21:05 huginn`     rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:16 rangi       https://twitter.com/nigelmcnie/status/622876655900450816
21:17 rangi       hmm i think ill leave that email from mexico for tcohen to answer
21:22 cait        hm?
21:22 cait        morning rangi
21:22 rangi       the eds one
21:22 rangi       cait: http://apps.getpebble.com/en_US/application/55a814b60dc1ceb35f000003
21:22 cait        oh
21:23 cait        nice :)
21:24 rangi       now tcohen will need to get a pebble so he can know when the build is failing hehe
21:56 * Francesca waves
22:02 * cait      waves
22:09 Francesca   morning #koha
22:26 Francesca   anyone around?
22:27 nengard     hiya
22:27 Francesca   hey nengard
22:27 nengard     hello
22:27 wahanui     salut, nengard
22:28 Francesca   whatsup
22:28 nengard     nothing much, i'm in portland for oscon
22:28 nengard     :)
22:34 Francesca   cool
22:35 Francesca   @wunder wlg
22:35 huginn`     Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 20, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
22:35 Francesca   brrr cold today
22:39 bag         @wunder pdx
22:39 huginn`     bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 40.5°C (3:38 PM PDT on July 19, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening... 
22:39 bag         let’s trade
22:41 Francesca   happy too
22:41 Francesca   you can have the cold and I will have the heat
22:48 eythian     hi
22:48 wahanui     hola, eythian
22:48 Francesca   hey eythian
22:51 eythian     @later tell pianohacker "ass" doesn't mean what you think it means in English (traditional)
22:51 huginn`     eythian: The operation succeeded.
22:52 eythian     https://metacpan.org/pod/Acme::MakeMoneyAtHome
22:53 cait        hm it looks like we need some sql expert for bug 9011
22:53 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item
22:53 cait        finding out how to deal with the last patron in old_issues instead of moving it to items
22:53 cait        ideas welcome :)
22:54 eythian     I don't even understand the question
22:54 cait        the goal is to always keep the information about the last person who had an item
22:55 cait        the first implementation added another field to the items table for that
22:55 cait        and we argued that the information is already in old_issues
22:55 cait        and the implementation using old_issues has some sql that is really slow
22:55 cait        as far as i understand it
22:55 eythian     oh
22:55 * Francesca is confused
22:55 cait        sorry Francesca :)
22:55 eythian     then the SQL should be fixed/indices should be added/something like that
22:55 Francesca   all good
22:55 cait        eythian: i'd prefer that
22:56 cait        i think duplicating information all over the place and a link between patrons and items makes me feel uneasy
22:56 eythian     yeah
22:56 cait        but that might be me mostly - dunno
22:56 eythian     err, no
22:56 eythian     it's database theory
22:56 eythian     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_normalization <-- cait
22:56 cait        all over the place not be quite fiar - but we also have action_logs and statistics... and then issues
22:57 cait        there is a lot of information
22:57 eythian     yeah
22:57 eythian     we shouldn't duplicate unless there is a compelling reason
22:57 eythian     and "I can't be arsed optimising that query" is not compelling.
22:58 cait        i think it's more a 'help me to improve that query'
22:58 cait        anyway :) i need to sleep :)
22:58 cait        night all
22:58 wahanui     goodnight cait. You'll be back.
22:58 eythian     that's fine, people can help with that :)
22:59 eythian     I'll see if Srdjan is bored some time, he likes that sort of thing :)
22:59 cait        :)