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22:26 drojf lol
22:20 pianohacker sil vous plait por favor not the zusammenfÃ¼hren
22:19 pianohacker noooo, not the zusammenfÃ¼hren!
22:11 drojf aaand team german wins again :P
22:08 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
22:08 drojf @later tell cait ist verschmelzen (statt zusammenfÃ¼hren) von dir, oder ein swissism?
19:55 drojf mango ice cream and translating koha, it's a winning combination
19:08 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 29.0Â°C (8:50 PM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
19:08 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
18:28 wnickc why does borrower_message_transport_preferences exist?
18:21 druthb There are two possible answers, and "she read the log" is not the one I used.
18:21 pianohacker heh
18:21 druthb pianohacker: "the rest is left as an exercise for the student." Think about it a moment, and you'll figure out how I know who did that one.
18:21 * pianohacker nods sagely
18:21 drojf must be true if a bot says it
18:20 pianohacker excellent
18:20 wahanui eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
18:20 drojf eythian?
18:20 druthb lol
18:20 wahanui okay, druthb.
18:20 druthb wahanui: eythian is also a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
18:20 wahanui ...but eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.|an expert bot trainer|<reply>go back to bed, eythian|Time's Person of the Year for 2006....
18:20 druthb wahanui: eythian is a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says.
18:19 pianohacker druthb: I'm not sure how you can be so confident that that was any particular person ;)
18:19 druthb lolâ€¦
18:19 pianohacker heh
18:19 * druthb knows who's to blame for the "more trouble than she's worth."
18:19 pianohacker kiwi smartass
18:19 pianohacker yeah
18:19 druthb What, the "I HATEâ€¦" ?
18:18 pianohacker druthb: blame eythian for that one...
18:15 druthb mhm.
18:15 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know?
18:15 druthb wahanui: druthb?
18:15 wahanui I HATE ALMOST EVERYTHING
18:15 druthb pianohacker!
18:15 pianohacker hallo
18:15 pianohacker druthb!
18:15 druthb How'd you like that "Tall Girl Problems" comic?
18:14 druthb :)
18:14 talljoy hiya druthb!!!
18:14 * druthb waves to talljoy
17:27 drojf evening
16:09 gaetan_B bye
15:55 dani that is possible pianohacker
15:55 dani I told him that I didn't know of any restrictions but I could check.
15:54 pianohacker besides that, I can't think of anything
15:54 pianohacker dani: My very off-the-cuff the guess is that he may have been misled by the security bugs stuff: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/enter_bug.cgi
15:53 dani I talked with a gentleman at a conference yesterday who claims he was denied an Bugzilla account to create bugs, saying he was not authorized to report bugs. Are there such restrictions?
15:52 pianohacker dani: it's currently pretty early saturday for him, but we can take a shot at your question :)
15:52 dani rangi can you answer a question about Bugzilla procedure?
15:50 dani I have a general question if someone can answer concerning Bugzilla and how open source/Koha community works
15:49 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
15:49 dani good morning!
15:30 barton hey, I just had a brainstorm ... one of the things that slows down support and development on Koha is creating test plans... I wonder if there's something that we could do to make that process easier... a 'record' button or something.
15:01 reiveune bye
14:40 fridolin sse u
13:34 kivilahtio have a great weekend #koha!
12:57 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
12:57 mtompset Have to run.
12:44 mtompset I could keep going, but the whole cancel link idea seems there.
12:43 mtompset library and groups, item types, AV new category, AV new AV, Patron attribute types, (strangely) library transfer limits, cities and towns, ... - cancel link.
12:36 * mtompset goes looking.
12:36 mtompset Let me see again...
12:35 khall mtompset: can you point me to one? That way I can replicate the style
12:35 mtompset (or link)
12:35 khall do go on
12:35 mtompset Some of them have a 'Cancel' button, which acts like a 'Back'.
12:34 magnuse cait: actually, it's the ill code from ptfse that is a bit behind master, and that i am trying to build on
12:34 * cait declares it to be too hot to think
12:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9021 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add SMS via email as an alternative to SMS services via SMS::Send drivers
12:34 mtompset And khall, regarding bug 9021...
12:34 mtompset Greetings, cait. :)
12:33 * cait waves
12:33 magnuse hiya mtompset and khall
12:33 khall good mornin all!~
12:33 khall thanks for the reminder mtompset!
12:32 mtompset Greetings, khall magnuse.
12:31 magnuse cait: ah hah
12:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , Extend IndependentBranches to support groups of libraries
12:31 mtompset bug 10276
12:31 mtompset It's Friday. ;)
12:31 khall yo
12:31 huginn` mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 6 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <khall> I didn't mean to pqa that one
12:31 mtompset @seen khall
12:31 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:29 cait maybe there is some overlap with eythian's api patch - the perm shouldn't exist any longer
12:29 cait the whole permission
12:29 cait magnuse: hm we removed it now i thought
12:28 magnuse specifically yhe ones that have flagsrequired => { borrow => 1 }, as far as i can tell
12:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Patron management API
12:27 magnuse i have a user i imported with the svc extension added by eythian in bug 13607, but that user is denied access to some of the tabs in the opac, after logging in
12:26 magnuse what decides if a user has the borrow flag?
12:25 magnuse flagsrequired => { borrow => 1 },
11:54 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 29.8Â°C (1:54 PM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
11:54 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:17 magnuse gah, only happens with nb-NO, not en
11:13 magnuse to test: log in to the opac with a wrong combo of username/password
11:12 magnuse anyone else seeing that?
11:12 magnuse wow, on current master i get this ugly error after a failed login: Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/nb-NO/modules/opac-auth.tt line 58: unexpected end of input at /home/magnus/scripts/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 121.
10:29 huginn` 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date
10:29 xekhz can anyone help me with this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14527
10:05 cait guess he was serious about the lake :)
09:47 drojf later #koha
09:26 drojf [off] lake office it is :)
09:26 cait lol
09:25 * drojf wins
09:25 drojf :D
09:25 drojf ha
09:25 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.7Â°C (11:25 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:25 drojf @wunder konstanz
09:22 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 27.0Â°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:22 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:48 xekhz in the koha demos in unimarc always fails but in marc21 always suceed
08:48 huginn` 04Bug 14527: normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , zebra error 114 when searching for items added before or after a specific date
08:48 xekhz http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14527
08:46 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0Â°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:46 magnuse @wunder boo
08:46 magnuse hi xekhz
08:41 xekhz good day
08:41 xekhz hello ppl
08:34 cait ;)
08:34 cait hmpf
08:24 drojf but feels cool. hehe
08:24 drojf coming closer ;)
08:24 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0Â°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
08:24 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:23 cait feels warmer i can tell you
08:23 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.5Â°C (10:23 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:23 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:18 drojf looks like it does not expect temperatures above 25Â° ;)
08:17 drojf i like openweathermap.org, but it switched to "very heavy rain" again for berlin. the same happened the last time it was hot :/
08:16 magnuse unlike poedit, it does not warn very clearly about mismatched %s'es
08:16 magnuse it sometimes makes some good suggestions
08:15 drojf magnuse: thanks, will have a look
08:15 drojf cait
08:15 drojf oh sorry, typo. there is NONE for opac-authoritiessearchresultlist :)
08:14 magnuse drojf, cait: i use Lokalize to good effect (on Ubuntu)
08:07 cait for the first
08:07 cait but maybe
08:07 cait i donT want to know
08:06 drojf or is auth authentication here?
08:06 drojf so we have opac-auth-detail and opac-authoritiesdetail? that would be funny
08:05 cait looking at the 'normal' view
08:05 cait hm don't think it is
08:05 drojf MARCdetail even. that should be it then i guess
08:04 drojf also opac-auth-MARC-detail
08:04 cait some weird magic
08:04 wahanui maybe is a momentaneous error
08:04 cait hm maybe?
08:04 drojf opac-auth-detail.tt ?
08:03 drojf there is one for opac-authoritiessearchresultlist
08:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14556 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve translatability of strings including links
08:03 cait i have filed bug 14556
08:02 cait weird
08:02 drojf i did not find it for that file Oo
07:58 cait and the 4 is linked so it breaks the string
07:58 cait plural singular problem
07:58 cait verwendet in 4 titel
07:58 cait but i think we can't translate it better probably :(
07:58 drojf where?
07:58 cait it's in opac-authoritiesdetail and should just be "Titel"
07:57 cait drojf: can you do me a favour and use poedit to find my string?
07:57 cait in don't know of something better
07:56 drojf i take that as a no ;)
07:48 drojf i have poedit. is there something better i should be using?
07:46 cait don't tell me, innocent this time
07:46 drojf how
07:46 drojf that's not now vacation works ^^
07:46 cait *gah*
07:46 cait used in x records
07:46 cait it's "Titel"
07:46 cait i can't find the string
07:46 cait for the last to edit
07:46 cait it just showed mverron when i looked
07:45 drojf i thought he is on holiday
07:45 cait maybe email him if you want to upload later
07:45 cait marc has been doing some work too
07:45 drojf i downloaded the help file. i will translate it offline i guess
07:45 cait hm now it showed me a server error - you broke it
07:44 drojf probably it had to find your string before serving me a page :P
07:44 drojf it loaded now, but it took > 1 minute
07:43 cait currently looking for a string there
07:43 cait just you
07:43 drojf does not open
07:43 drojf is the translation server broken or is it just me?
07:42 cait hmpf
07:42 drojf you win ;)
07:42 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0Â°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:42 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:42 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 25.3Â°C (9:42 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:42 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:39 cait wb magnuse
07:39 magnuse wb cait
07:37 magnuse drojf: let's talk after berlin :-)
07:37 drojf [off] i did not know koha is (or was) also a brand for watches http://www.ebay.de/itm/Koha-Euromatic-Herren-Automatikuhr-1975-mit-ETA-Kaliber-2783-gebraucht-/201320391168?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item2edfa16200
07:29 drojf we should have one with midnight sun and one with aurora borealis ;)
07:28 drojf i would be willing to help :) if i won't go crazy over organizing the berlin hackfest :D
07:27 drojf yay \o/
07:26 magnuse in a year or two i might have my head sufficiently above water to organize something like that...
07:26 magnuse :-)
07:25 drojf that would be awesome
07:23 magnuse midnight sun hackfest
07:23 magnuse except noone could afford to come...
07:22 magnuse lofoten would be an awesome place for it
07:22 magnuse drojf: oh yes, definitely!
07:08 drojf we should have an arctic kohacon
07:07 drojf magnuse: not complaining :) but i would love a some northern norway too
07:07 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B
07:07 gaetan_B hello
07:07 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 22.0Â°C (8:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
07:07 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:01 magnuse bonjour fridolin & lari
07:00 fridolin hie
06:57 magnuse or "northern norway beach"
06:57 magnuse do a google image search for "lofoten", for example :-)
06:54 sophie_m magnuse: what a wonderful idea (about holidays) :)
06:53 sophie_m hi #koha
06:53 sophie_m hello magnuse
06:52 reiveune salut magnuse
06:51 magnuse bonojur reiveune
06:48 wahanui privet, reiveune
06:48 reiveune hello
06:44 cait :)
06:44 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
06:43 * magnuse thinks people should stop complaining about the heat and book holidays in northern norway ;-)
06:42 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0Â°C (8:20 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:41 magnuse @wunder boo
06:26 cait lol
06:26 drojf that would be the best office ever
06:25 drojf if i had a waterproof notebook i could work thereâ€¦ on a rubber boat
06:24 cait some coworkers go during lunch break
06:24 cait nay i am afraid
06:23 drojf to the lake for a swim before workâ€¦ yay or nay?
06:22 drojf looks like it is getting hot again
06:21 drojf hi cait
06:21 * cait wavs
06:21 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0Â°C (7:50 AM CEST on July 17, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:20 drojf hei magnuse
06:19 magnuse moin drojf
06:19 * magnuse waves
06:19 drojf morning
04:26 mtj damn, those pebbles look fun
04:23 mtj whew, all good
04:21 mtj # spent 4Âµs making 1 call to DBD::_mem::common::DESTROY
04:21 mtj # spent 16Âµs making 2 calls to DBI::common::DESTROY, avg 8Âµs/call
04:21 mtj # spent 7.27s making 368 calls to Koha::Calendar::single_holidays, avg 19.7ms/call
04:21 mtj # spent 55.1s making 368 calls to DateTime::Set::contains, avg 150ms/call
04:21 mtj 739 62.3s if ( $self->single_holidays->contains($localdt) ) {
04:21 mtj ..739 is the number of call made in that {..} block
04:20 mtj http://x1.kohaaloha.com/i/nyt-bz14522-before/home-mason-g-k-3-20-x-Koha-Calendar-pm-1485-line.html#237
04:20 mtj aaah, i see :)
04:16 mtj before is 739, after is 368
04:15 mtj the number of calls to single_holidays() are quite different
04:14 mtj there is one weird thing i have yet to click too, tho..
04:10 mtj ..a nice way to end a friday arvo
04:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14522 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache for accessing single_holidays()
04:09 mtj i finally submitted my fix for the slow holidays - bug 14522
04:09 mtj amazing rangi :)
03:42 cdickinson rangi: your dedication is inspiring
03:19 wizzyrea a+ nice
03:18 wizzyrea oooooo
03:17 rangi http://apps.getpebble.com/en_US/application/55a814b60dc1ceb35f000003
02:52 wizzyrea "compare revisions"
02:52 wizzyrea like wikipedia.
02:52 wizzyrea a tool would be nice though.
02:52 wizzyrea true
02:47 eythian having a diff tool would probably be better
02:46 eythian to go back to an arbitrary point, you have to play back all the inverse diffs
02:46 eythian that can get complicated
02:46 eythian hmm
02:45 wizzyrea just keep the diff.
02:45 wizzyrea like, instead of keeping the whole record
02:45 wizzyrea the cataloguing log.
02:45 wizzyrea I really wish we could make that more useful.
02:44 eythian yeah
02:44 wizzyrea koha does, I guess.
02:44 eythian it's not really its job
02:44 eythian it doesn't
02:44 wizzyrea it doesn't keep the revisions though?
02:44 wizzyrea eythian++
02:33 rangi nice!
02:33 eythian also, automatic updating and deleting of records in ES when they're changed in koha now works :D
02:28 eythian (you can't ask for version 1 though, it doesn't work like that.)
02:28 eythian not sure if it'll ever be useful, but every time you update a record in elasticsearch, a counter gets incremented: "_version" : 2,
01:33 wizzyrea and that's not technically OPAC
01:32 wizzyrea mm there are other things that require attention
01:32 eythian wizzyrea: well, tell jen, maybe she'll fix it for us (and yeah, it's a little silly)
01:31 eythian pie socket! jeez!
01:31 wizzyrea this makes me giggle.
01:30 wizzyrea "mouth hole"
01:29 wizzyrea I wonder why the installer needs a "finish button" and then a redirect screen. Seems superfluous.
01:08 mtj and yes, great point jcamins
01:07 mtj hmm, i def. have no intention of removing caching ... anywhere
01:06 eythian to be honest, unless it was making a real slowdown, I'd leave caching in place until proven otherwise.
01:05 eythian jcamins makes an excellent point
01:05 mtj aah, after checking... using memcached is a tiny bit faster
00:57 jcamins ... and remember that caching is about scaling and not speed most of the time
00:55 eythian but, do a few thousand runs and average that
00:55 eythian that can happen
00:54 mtj i need to doublecheck... but this holidays thing is faster with memcached off
00:53 mtj yeah, i think you are right
00:51 eythian I suspect that it's fast enough now that the caching makes little difference.
00:51 eythian cool
00:50 mtj my holidays caching seems to be working well, with memcached off even
00:48 mtj ta eythian, that makes sense
00:44 eythian I think it's documented in Koha::Cache
00:44 eythian it might fall back to short-term in-process caching
00:44 eythian mtj: it just doesn't use memcache
00:41 mtj if memcache is not available, koha::cache switches to another fallback caching method?
00:40 mtj ie: how does the various caching fallback code work
00:39 mtj what might be the expected behaviour for caching, if say... memcached was accidentally not running, on a koha thats configed to use memcache
00:39 mtj hey #koha, newbie cache Q here...