Time  Nick        Message
23:59 mtj         ..but ive already solved that problem, i just need to add it back in
23:58 mtj         its currently missing the code, to build holidays for all branches
23:40 mtj         i think i can see some other speed improvements too, around the code
23:38 rangi       as well as circ
23:38 rangi       overdues.pl etc
23:38 wahanui     fines.pl is probably adjusting correctly as i change holidays.
23:38 rangi       fines.pl
23:38 rangi       awesome work tho, that will mean a big improvement in a lot of places
23:37 mtj         yes and yes
23:37 rangi       so running those would be a start?
23:37 rangi       mtj: i think its quite well unit tested
23:34 Francesca   sup mtj
23:34 Francesca   sweet I'll be in after midday
23:34 mtj         hey Francesca :0)
23:34 mtj         rangi: hmm, afaik yes... it will def. need some proper checking/testing tho
23:34 rangi       yep that should be fine
23:34 Francesca   hey rangi can I come in on friday afternoon
23:33 rangi       hi Francesca
23:32 * Francesca waves at mtj, rangi and eythian
23:32 rangi       its still feature complete eh?
23:31 mtj         n2 is before... c5 is after patch
23:31 rangi       actual magnitudes
23:31 mtj         http://x1.kohaaloha.com/nytprof-c5/home-mason-g-k-3-20-x-Koha-Calendar-pm-322-line.html
23:31 mtj         http://x1.kohaaloha.com/nytprof-n2/home-mason-g-k-3-20-x-Koha-Calendar-pm-322-line.html
23:31 rangi       thats a massive improvement
23:30 mtj         i seem to have got the Koha::Calendar::is_holiday() call from 63 secs, to 705ms
23:28 eythian     sweet
23:28 mtj         ..i seem to have had a little success with the slow holidays code
23:28 mtj         thanks for the epoch tip yesterday, eythian
23:27 mtj         hey #koha
22:54 eythian     http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pluto+distance+from+charon <-- it looks like there's been a terrible accident
22:45 eythian     hi
22:42 Francesca   bye cait!
22:42 cait        Francesca: I have to go to sleep :) have a nice day!
22:40 pianohacker bbl
22:28 Francesca   where did everybody go?
22:22 * Francesca is trying to make apache run on mac
22:21 Francesca   wizzyrea does wahanui actually have a point? or are you still here
22:21 Francesca   ohh thats sad
22:20 wahanui     wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore
22:20 Francesca   hey wizzyrea
22:19 Francesca   It usually behaves itself on other programmes
22:19 Francesca   I think its just the irc provider I'm using
22:19 Francesca   hahahahahaha that is great
22:18 wizzyrea    hey that works too.
22:18 pianohacker Francesca: faceplate? http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/4/4/1301925284900/Face-down-on-a-plate-007.jpg
22:18 wizzyrea    off*
22:18 wizzyrea    I bet you can turn it of.
22:18 wizzyrea    that seems daft.
22:18 wizzyrea    what I want to know, is why apple insists on using autocorrect on a desktop.
22:18 Francesca   I never had this problem on windows
22:18 Francesca   at least on mac that is
22:18 Francesca   and facepalm becomes faceplate
22:17 wizzyrea    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot
22:17 Francesca   autocorrect is always correcting peoples usernames
22:17 Francesca   who is godot? or what?
22:17 Francesca   hahahaha
22:17 wizzyrea    that was exceptionally literary
22:17 wahanui     is Godot coming?
22:17 wizzyrea    wait what
22:17 wizzyrea    in soviet russia, correct auto's you.
22:17 pianohacker we alwas spl gud
22:16 pianohacker we're library people, what do we need with autocorrect
22:16 cait        understandable
22:15 * Francesca has a vendetta against auto correct
22:11 * Francesca waves at cait
22:11 cait        hi pianohacker :)
22:11 pianohacker hi cait!
22:10 cait        :)
22:10 pianohacker heheheh
22:09 Francesca   (my other favourite thing is website fiddling)
22:07 Francesca   and i get to do my other favourite thing here
22:07 Francesca   Yeah its good fun
22:06 pianohacker very jealous
22:06 pianohacker oh that's right, you're at music school
22:06 Francesca   MUSC 130 hildegard to avant garde
22:06 pianohacker what was the class, anyway?
22:05 Francesca   right lecture finished
22:01 wizzyrea    no i mean like, hours earlier :)
21:57 wahanui     i already had it that way, huginn`.
21:57 huginn`     bag: The current temperature in San Caleb, Perry, Kansas is 35.5°C (4:50 PM CDT on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... 
21:57 bag         @weather perry, KS
21:57 wizzyrea    or she's lying. :)
21:56 huginn`     wizzyrea: The current temperature in San Caleb, Perry, Kansas is 35.5°C (4:50 PM CDT on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... 
21:56 wizzyrea    @wunder perry, KS
21:56 wizzyrea    I have a friend who reports 41C in the country.
21:56 huginn`     wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 36.2°C (4:56 PM CDT on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Steady).  Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... 
21:56 wizzyrea    @wunder lawrence, KS
21:56 bag         :P
21:56 bag         ok thanks you two - you’ve proven I am a slow ass reader
21:56 * wizzyrea  saw it earlier
21:56 pianohacker I keep getting distracted so probably not
21:56 bag         seems like it
21:55 * bag       wonders if I read the same speed as pianohacker and wizzyrea
21:55 pianohacker eythian++
21:55 wizzyrea    eythian++
21:55 bag         eythian++
21:55 pianohacker nice!
21:55 wizzyrea    a+!
21:55 bag         :)
21:55 bag         nice
21:50 rangi       https://what-if.xkcd.com/137/
21:50 rangi       eythian is even more famous now
21:30 Francesca   multi tasking
21:30 Francesca   I am
21:29 pianohacker I've said that one before :)
21:29 pianohacker uh huh
21:29 Francesca   I am multi tasking
21:29 Francesca   its not boring
21:28 pianohacker Who would do such a thing
21:28 pianohacker messing around with Linux during a boring class?
21:27 pianohacker tsk tsk
21:27 Francesca   hacked any pianos recently?
21:25 Francesca   I'm in a lecture, half asleep and trying to get bugzilla set up on my mac
21:24 pianohacker Francesca: you?
21:24 pianohacker I'm working on a translation redo and we're in the very early stages, not yet committed, of a circ rules revamp for the interface and backend
21:23 pianohacker good! Fun projects in the works!
21:23 Francesca   hows it going pianohacker?
21:22 pianohacker hi Francesca
21:21 Francesca   morning
21:16 pianohacker rangi: thanks, I'm trying. There seem to be some crossed wires, but I think we're getting this figured out
21:16 rangi       pianohacker++ #for the overdrive emails
21:14 pianohacker misilot: I ran a circular-replication setup on MySQL back in the day, and I've always been curious how well maria's clustering stuff was... you had much luck with it?
21:13 wizzyrea    misilot: plenty run it on mariadb, not sure about in a cluster.
19:59 cait        morning
19:59 rangi       morning
19:01 misilot     Hi, I was wondering if anyone is running Koha in a MariaDB Galera cluster? :)
17:15 Joubu       see you tomorrow #koha!
14:31 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
14:31 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
12:51 magnuse     blou++ for a cool comment :-)
12:51 cait        blou++
12:51 cait        bou++
12:23 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2422 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, REOPENED , Cataloging searches with more than 1 page results show blank pages after page 1
12:23 Joubu       Bug 2422 sounds really bad, but I don't reproduce the issue, someone?
12:19 AmitG       heya Joubu
12:19 AmitG       hi all
12:04 magnuse     pling plong
11:59 kivilahtio  ping ping
11:51 Joubu       ping #koha?
10:33 cait        back
10:17 cait        brb
10:09 cait        hm or 'lunch'
10:09 cait        morning
10:07 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
10:07 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
09:27 drojf       it's amazing how many unrelated "business proposals" i get from india since i am on the paid support list for koha
08:05 magnuse     hiya kivilahtio
08:02 kivilahtio  hi there!
07:54 magnuse     bonjour Joubu
07:41 Joubu       hello
07:28 Francesca   And I'm too late
07:28 Francesca   bye dcook
07:26 dcook       Have a good day!
07:26 dcook       Okies. Home times.
07:26 dcook       :)
07:18 magnuse     yay, nice!
07:17 dcook       And I should go hoooome
07:17 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Add wysiwyg editor to system preferences dealing with HTML
07:17 dcook       Yay, I think bug 11584 is ready for a sign off :)
07:15 dcook       Ahh, adding a wysiwyg sys pref for the sysprefs :)
07:14 wahanui     i think nope is http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/nope_girl.gif
07:14 magnuse     nope?
07:13 dcook       magnuse: Are you reading about my sysprefing sysprefs? :p
07:11 magnuse     syspref all the things!
07:10 Francesca   you can do it
07:10 dcook       And let's see if I can use git rebase -i without destroying the last few minutes of work...
07:10 dcook       heya magnuse
07:10 * magnuse   waves
07:06 Francesca   well done
07:01 dcook       Not that we should necessarily be adding a million of 'em...
07:01 dcook       That makes it way nicer to add a new system preference..
07:01 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox
07:01 dcook       Hurray for bug 13068
07:00 dcook       Nearly though!
07:00 dcook       Alas, I didn't make it :(
06:56 Francesca   go dcook go
06:56 * Francesca sets stopwatch
06:56 dcook       Let's see if I can finish this patch in 4 minutes..
06:56 Francesca   I think it might be out of date
06:55 dcook       Or is it just a really old version?
06:54 dcook       I thought Mac would have Perl by default?
06:54 Francesca   I'm going to need it
06:54 dcook       Best of luck
06:54 * Francesca is trying to set up apache and perl on mac
06:47 dcook       Hmm much easier now..
06:46 dcook       Now let's see if I can remember how to add a system preference..
06:39 Francesca   I would appreciate the extra 5 degrees as well
06:38 dcook       I'm appreciative of the extra 5 degrees
06:38 huginn`     dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (4:00 PM AEST on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
06:38 dcook       @wunder syd
06:38 huginn`     Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (6:30 PM NZST on July 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
06:38 Francesca   @wunder wlg
06:38 Francesca   lucky
06:37 dcook       Blue skies and sunny
06:37 dcook       Mmm
06:37 dcook       Hehe. Yeah, I'm a person in Australia
06:37 dcook       :o
06:33 Francesca   (you are the person in australia right? I get people mixed up)
06:32 Francesca   so dcook what are things like on your side of the tasman
06:32 dcook       Francesca: That's cool :)
06:31 dcook       Huh... but there it is..
06:31 Francesca   it was recommended to me by one of the wellington gang
06:31 dcook       Hmm "OpacCustomSearch" doesn't sound familiar...
06:30 dcook       I want to say I've heard good things about it
06:29 Francesca   brackets isn't too bad though
06:28 Francesca   but sadly its not available on mac
06:28 Francesca   I love notepad ++ its my favourite editor
06:28 Francesca   If I hadn't given the windows computer to my brother when I got the mac I would have turned it into ubuntu
06:27 dcook       So I either use Vim on the server, or I use a Samba share to access the code and edit via Notepad++
06:27 dcook       I suppose the servers I log into are virtualized...
06:27 dcook       I do have a Windows desktop at work...
06:27 dcook       But I run Linux on my home laptop and desktop
06:26 dcook       Yeah, I don't use VMs too much myself
06:26 Francesca   the vm stuffed up on my old laptop which was windows
06:25 Francesca   eh I have a vm but I just run everything via my mac since I got it
06:25 dcook       Now what was I doing..
06:24 dcook       On the VM
06:24 dcook       I was just wondering if it annoyed you in terms of updating the code
06:24 dcook       Yeah
06:24 Francesca   you mean text editors right?
06:24 Francesca   brackets
06:23 dcook       What do you use for editing?
06:23 Francesca   I have one installed via virtual box
06:23 Francesca   but virtual machines annoy me
06:23 Francesca   I could
06:23 Francesca   8gb
06:23 dcook       Surely you could run it in a VM?
06:22 dcook       If you're on a Mac, you must have a bazillion GB of RAM, no?
06:22 dcook       Francesca++
06:22 Francesca   I'm on mac
06:22 dcook       Ahh
06:22 dcook       Or do you mean get a full one
06:22 Francesca   I want to design a new skin for it but first I have to get bugzilla downloaded
06:22 dcook       If you're having issues, you'll probably need to do a pull on your git-bz install
06:22 dcook       Hmm?
06:21 Francesca   oh trying to get bugzilla running on my laptop
06:20 wahanui     You are not the first to ask that question or a little confused about the function of some installed extensions. or missing the trigger
06:20 dcook       You?
06:20 dcook       Stuff 'n' things
06:18 Francesca   sup dcook
06:17 * dcook     is directing his yo at Francesca :p
06:17 dcook       yo
06:16 * Francesca waves
06:09 dcook       Actually, nevermind. Seems like 99% are in opac.pref anyway
06:06 dcook       Well.. maybe..
06:05 dcook       Blah... now that I'm reviewing opac.pref I see better ways of doing this..
06:01 dcook       OPAC that is..
06:01 * dcook     is going to start with the most obvious ones
06:01 dcook       System preferences that might benefit from a WYSIWYG editor?
06:01 dcook       If anyone feels like spit-balling for a minute...
05:53 dcook       I guess in either case, I must be a bee in IE's bonnet...
05:53 dcook       Can't tell if I'm crashing IE7 or just the emulated version
05:49 * dcook     wonders who made the accident
05:49 huginn`     dcook: Karma for "IE" has been increased 1 time and decreased 26 times for a total karma of -25.
05:49 dcook       @karma IE
05:49 dcook       IE--
05:36 dcook       #meta
05:36 dcook       I'm adding a system preferences to control system preferences
05:36 dcook       Hehe
05:14 dcook       O_o
05:14 huginn`     kivilahtio: The operation succeeded.
05:14 kivilahtio  @later tell pianohacker rangi: If you are cooking improvements to the translation module, I will gladly take a peek
05:13 kivilahtio  rangi: If you are cooking improvements to the translation module, I will gladly take a peek
05:13 dcook       Hurray for .trigger()
04:55 wahanui     okay, eythian.
04:55 eythian     wahanui: robot is also a South African traffic light
04:55 wahanui     ...but robot is mean :)...
04:55 eythian     wahanui: robot is a South African traffic light
04:30 eythian     apparently we used to push XML files directly into a directory for zebra.
04:29 eythian     I know, it was a surprise to me
04:28 dcook       O_O
04:25 * eythian   dives into some old code, where the zebraqueue table was a temporary fix for a bug in zebra itself
04:15 * dcook     shrugs
04:15 dcook       I suppose it is a name though..
04:14 dcook       Hmm never really thought about it but "GPL License" is a bit redundant.
03:58 dcook       Cool. I haven't been up-to-date with other changes to about.pl lately, so I wasn't sure if there was something I was totally missing
03:58 rangi       that would be my guess also
03:58 * dcook     isn't sure what else he could mean when saying "Please add TinyMCE to about.pl"
03:57 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, ASSIGNED , Add wysiwyg editor to system preferences dealing with HTML
03:57 dcook       On bug 11584, do folks think Joubu was asking me to add TinyMce to the Licences section of about.pl?
03:57 dcook       Legit question time
03:32 dcook       Which we should never have to worry about except perhaps at a local level..
03:32 dcook       If you can't count on the existence of the syspref...
03:32 dcook       or... "($variable = '' or not($variable))"
03:32 dcook       You'd have to do "not($variable)"
03:32 dcook       But that means $variable = '' won't work
03:29 dcook       Probably makes sense
03:29 dcook       The variable in the XSLT doesn't seem to get defined at all
03:29 dcook       Interesting... if a system preference is missing...
03:25 dcook       Hmm it's not even Monday..
03:24 * dcook     looks at the calendar
03:24 dcook       Or could you... would your inner ear betray you?!
03:24 dcook       Probably fry your brain faster, but you could do it laying down...
03:24 dcook       Hmm... I wonder if VR could make programming easier
03:23 * dcook     spend a whole weekend sick but felt like laying down instead of sitting at a chair programming
03:23 dcook       Not sure what to learn next... mostly just need more time to do stuff
03:22 dcook       Certainly seemed to take care of it for me :)
03:21 eythian     the purpose of TCP is to make that not your problem :)
03:21 eythian     oh no, that's not your problem
03:21 eythian     well, in all cases the TCP stack will take care of it.
03:21 dcook       I was mostly worried about sequence
03:21 eythian     it'll be taken care for you in some cases.
03:21 dcook       Well, I don't need to worry as the message itself didn't matter per se...
03:21 dcook       Or maybe I do and I just don't know it O_O
03:20 dcook       Yeah, initially I was thinking a bit about fragmentation and really glad that I didn't seem to have to worry about it
03:20 dcook       hehe
03:20 eythian     now look up fragmentation and path discovery, and wait for it to get a lot more complicated :)
03:19 * dcook     wrote a little TCP client one day and was wondering why he was getting three input events... until he realized the message needed multiple TCP packets because of the 65 KB size limit...
03:18 * dcook     is pro learning
03:18 mtj         ok, ill use epoch then - and learn something too ;0)
03:18 dcook       hehe
03:18 eythian     and it'll be timezone safe ;)
03:18 dcook       Well maybe not epoch time, but seconds
03:18 eythian     yeah
03:18 dcook       Plus, it's what DateTime uses underneath it all
03:17 eythian     it's the fasted and easiest for comparison operations
03:17 rangi       what he said ;)
03:17 eythian     mtj: then convert it on display
03:17 rangi       or something like that
03:17 rangi       warn datetime($epoch)
03:17 dcook       Yeah
03:17 dcook       Yeah, epoch time isn't fun to eyeball..
03:17 rangi       and they are in another
03:17 rangi       but the problem now is if you host them in one tz
03:17 dcook       hehe
03:17 wizzyrea    nfw.
03:17 wizzyrea    O.O
03:17 mtj         eythian: tbh, i think i might struggle eyeballing epoch time, when testing this
03:17 * dcook     either
03:16 rangi       im not touching that
03:16 rangi       unless you want to get into the madness of timezones per branch
03:16 rangi       whatever timezone we use
03:16 dcook       I want to say we have two timezones here in NSW
03:16 rangi       however a library that crosses timezones still has issues
03:16 dcook       Yeah, I can't imagine too many
03:16 rangi       not many
03:16 dcook       Maybe some public and academic libraries
03:15 dcook       I wonder how many libraries cross timezones
03:15 dcook       I suppose that makes sense
03:15 rangi       yes
03:15 dcook       Whatever the system locale is?
03:14 dcook       What timezones do we use in Koha?
03:14 * dcook     imagines whatever requires the least amount of transforming of incoming data would make sense?
03:11 mtj         perhaps 'yyyymmdd' , that would make it more human readable
03:06 eythian     numbers make life easier, in general.
03:06 eythian     why yyyy-mm-dd and not seconds since 1970-1-1?
03:05 mtj         i think i'll swap the DateTime stuff in single_holidays() with an arrayref of 'yyyy-mm-dd' dates
02:56 mtj         eythian:  agreed
02:55 eythian     at least, having last looked at that code two weeks ago, that seems like a good idea :)
02:55 eythian     just change it to do something in a simple way and add a comment explaining why we're not using contains.
02:55 eythian     pulling another module in will likely overcomplicate it
02:54 eythian     basically, we're creating a complex, powerful object to do one simple thing
02:54 eythian     mtj: we probably don't need to use contains
02:53 mtj         Date::Calc ?
02:52 mtj         peeps, are there any other perl 'date' modules worth considering to replace the slow DateTime::Set::contains calls?
02:36 mtj         ..but increase the number of holiday rows, and the calls to DateTime::Set::contains become the actual slow point
02:36 dcook       (The downside of eating left over pizza... is not having enough left overs to make up a meal... and not wanting to eat anything but pizza after you've finished the pizza...)
02:33 mtj         ie: with a small number of holidays, the single_holidays() calls seem comparatively large
02:17 mtj         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39765
02:17 mtj         so the orig. graph that shows single_holidays() as being 'slow', isnt running on a decent test db
02:15 mtj         i then ran nytprof on that chopped-up db, rather than the orig. db with the 400 holidays
02:14 mtj         i deleted a bunch of holidays, just to speed up the response when testing
02:13 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14315 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, In Discussion , Slow checkouts, caused by many 'special_holidays' definitions
02:13 mtj         waaay back on bug 14315
02:13 mtj         ps: i can see where i went wrong on the holidays thing, when i 1st looked at it
02:05 dcook       On a totally unrelated note: https://www.facebook.com/nyheter24/videos/908746442494703
02:03 dcook       It does seem precise..
02:03 dcook       I guess that works..
02:03 dcook       I didn't know "resultant" was actually English...
02:03 dcook       Hmm
02:02 dcook       "All patrons in results"?
02:02 dcook       Should that just be "All patrons"?
02:02 dcook       "All resultant patrons"
01:58 mtj         thanks rangi ^
01:57 * dcook     recommends fire
01:51 rangi       so yeah, i think we need to kill that contains bit
01:51 mtj         yep, and we *still* end up doing datemath on them too :/
01:51 rangi       and still call contains 374 times
01:51 rangi       we just serialise/deserialise that 374 times
01:51 rangi       so if we cachec single holidays
01:50 rangi       thats the slow bit
01:50 rangi       the contains bit
01:50 rangi       yeah its making those calls
01:48 mtj         # spent  7.23s making 374 calls to Koha::Calendar::single_holidays, avg 19.3ms/call
01:48 mtj         # spent  55.8s making 374 calls to DateTime::Set::contains, avg 149ms/call
01:48 mtj         751	63.1s	    if ( $self->single_holidays->contains($localdt) ) {
01:48 mtj
01:47 * mtj       waves to AmitG
01:46 AmitG       heya mtj
01:46 mtj         ..the real slow point seems to be all the calls to DateTime::Set::contains, from is_holidays()
01:43 mtj         so, ignore the dump with the patch, as its obv. made things slower
01:42 mtj         c2 is after the koha::cache patch.
01:42 mtj         n2 is before the patch.
01:41 mtj
01:41 mtj
01:41 mtj         peeps even
01:41 mtj         pees, i finally uploaded those NYT profiles...
01:39 rangi       ah yeah
01:39 rangi       what was that language they spoke in wessex?
01:39 eythian     suppose, I was more poking at the "originating where it is found" definition of indigenous.
01:38 mtj         "Indigenous communities, peoples, and nations are those that, having a historical continuity with pre-invasion and pre-colonial societies that developed on their territories, consider themselves distinct from other sectors of the societies now prevailing in those territories, or parts of them."
01:38 rangi       english isnt really indigneous to anywhere
01:38 rangi       celtic might be
01:38 rangi       nope
01:37 eythian     surely English is indigenous to England
01:36 mtj         '
01:36 mtj         'This is the first translation of the Creative Commons licences into an indigenous language.
01:35 mtj         woah, very impressive
01:32 dcook       rangi++
01:30 wizzyrea    rangi++
01:30 wizzyrea    niiiiice
01:30 rangi       heh, i wonder how often a son and dad get quoted in the same press release
01:30 rangi       http://creativecommons.org.nz/2015/07/creative-commons-licences-translated-into-te-reo-maori-2/
01:29 rangi       all published now
01:29 rangi       https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/mi/legalcode
01:25 mtj         wow, thanks for that
01:24 eythian     mtj: scp -C
01:24 mtj         theres such a crazy speed difference in scping a zipped  nytdump dir
01:18 mtj         hmm, i should really fix that www public dir on my dev box
01:17 mtj         shorter version is... single_holidays() is not even the slow code here
01:16 mtj         sorry, just uploading the nytdumps to the web..
01:16 rangi       i cant really remember enough to be much use mtj
01:14 wizzyrea    theoretically holidays shouldn't be changing a lot
01:14 rangi       i forget what the original thing showed
01:14 rangi       not still call it lots but have the result cached?
01:14 rangi       i think the thing to avoid is calling single_holidays a million times
01:08 mtj         that cgit is sloow too
01:07 mtj         so thats my patch ^,  (pls excuse the warns, etc)
01:06 mtj         http://cgit.kohaaloha.com/3.20.x/log/?h=3.20.00-circfix1-sq3
01:06 mtj         i might post up some stuff to the channel, and see if anyone has some idea,s as to whats going on
01:04 eythian     hi mtj
01:04 mtj         hey eythian :)
01:04 eythian     there's a not insignificant cost to serialisation/deserialisation
01:03 mtj         shortversion is, my addition of Koha::Cache seems to have made things slower
01:03 wizzyrea    "pepperoni" and "veggie" don't seem like compatible terms to me.
01:02 mtj         sorry, was just rechecking the stats..
00:58 mtj         i bumped into some interesting nytprof stats
00:57 mtj         i was poking yesterday with my  'slow holidays' problem, and adding Koha::Cache as a fix
00:55 mtj         hey #koha
00:53 * Francesca has somehow stuffed up the aspect ratio on youtube
00:36 dcook       Maybe too good. I don't have enough left overs for a proper lunch today :p
00:36 dcook       Made veggie pepperoni pizza last night. Remarkably good.
00:36 dcook       I have some pizza in the fridge though :D
00:36 BobB        :)
00:36 dcook       I know, right? :(
00:36 BobB        settle down dcook, lunch is 2 hours away
00:35 * Francesca is annoyed with youtube
00:24 dcook       Mmm lunch
00:24 * rangi     grabs some lunch