Time Nick Message 00:09 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:09 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 00:10 eythian feels like 1° alright 00:10 cait1 @wunder Konstanz 00:10 huginn` cait1: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 18.3°C (2:10 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 00:10 cait1 it cooled down quite a bit last night 00:10 cait1 but it's probably only a short break we get 00:39 wizzyrea_ do you still have to manually turn on opacsuppression? 00:39 wizzyrea_ in the indexes? 00:39 cait1 nope 00:39 cait1 not if you use the standard field for it 00:39 wizzyrea_ niiiiice 00:39 cait1 i think the problem was unimarc not having a default mapping at some point 00:40 wizzyrea_ that simplifies this thing I'm doing considerably :) 00:40 cait1 just make sure you have at least one hidden record when you switch the pref 00:40 cait1 else opac search won't return results 00:41 cait1 hi BobB 00:42 wizzyrea_ right 00:50 wizzyrea_ wouldn't the answer to that guy's SIP problem be to make a user in LDAP that matches the SIP user? 00:51 wizzyrea_ it wouldn't even have to have any rights to anything, so long as it answered "Yep, that's a user" 00:52 cait1 i am actually surprised that there is a problem in teh first place 00:52 cait1 i thought sip was still checking the database directly - going around ldap 00:53 cait1 hm, maybe different for the sip user then for the patrons when they identify? not sure which he is talking about 00:53 wizzyrea_ yeah not sure 00:54 cait1 still something strange there... because if it's not in ldap it should fall back to local? 00:54 cait1 we only have one library with ldap and sip and I can't remember any problems there or having the sip user in their ldap hm. 00:56 mtompset the whole authentication and authentication fallback is hacky/ugly/bad. 01:00 eythian yep. I want to make it all a series of plugins, when I get all the time in the world 01:01 mtompset eythian: But how would you order the authentication order if they are plugins? 01:01 eythian by putting them in order in your configuration 01:02 mtompset koha-conf? 01:02 mtompset I was thinking a pretty drag and drop reorder method. :) 01:03 mtompset But that requires all the time in the world. ;) 01:04 mtompset Have a good day, #koha eythian cait1 wizzyrea wizzyrea_ 01:04 cait1 eythian: how is it going with the elastic search? :) 01:05 eythian cait1: I think I have all the search in place. 01:05 eythian I need to go back and test all the things to see if I created new bugs in the things I haven't looked at for a while though. 01:06 cait1 we discussed a gbsd at 3rd september today 01:06 cait1 and how ew could get more people involved 01:06 cait1 we could send them to the sandbox for testing maybe? 01:06 cait1 a lot of people are interested to see, might also test some 01:06 eythian cool 01:34 cait wizzyrea: for rda - 10306 01:34 cait but 10306 01:34 cait bug 10306 01:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA) 01:34 cait i think that's one of the more complicated things we need to look into 01:42 wizzyrea_ hm yes, it's problematic. 02:19 cait i'd like to get bug 9254 out of discussion... anyone want to comment? 02:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, vfernandes, In Discussion , New option to block patrons from changing messaging preferences in OPAC 02:23 pianohacker cait: my immediate thought (not sure if comment worthy) is, if you're worried about patrons changing their settings, why not have them change them in person or by emailing staff? 02:23 cait yeah exactly 02:23 cait i don't like the idea of moderating that 02:23 cait that like offering a switch 02:23 cait youdon't want them to switch... 02:24 cait i am not sure if i am still making sense, it#s very late here 02:24 pianohacker I'd say there's no reason not to _show_ a read-only version, though 02:24 pianohacker yeah, go to bed cait ;) 02:24 cait yep that was the suggestion 02:24 cait show/allow editing/don't show 02:24 cait for the tab 02:25 cait we have hidden it for a lot of libraires with jquery... would be nice to have a pref instead 02:25 pianohacker right, but why hide them completely? 02:26 pianohacker There's no harm in telling them what their settings are, no? 02:26 eythian pianohacker: you should know better than that :) 02:26 eythian libraries often want things turned off for mysterious reasons. 02:26 wizzyrea_ does anyone remember wat the bug number was for magnus' work on updating/synchronizing koha-conf files? 02:26 pianohacker eythian: yeah, I know... 02:27 pianohacker it's late enough that I'm pretending things make sense 02:27 pianohacker cait: my vote for the sake of consistency is that the syspref only switches between editable/read-only and if a library reeeeaaaallly wants read-only they can do some CSS 02:27 wizzyrea_ personally? I think it's bs that library users can't opt out of things themselves. 02:28 pianohacker wizzyrea_: agreed, but... 02:28 cait true 02:28 cait pianohacker: you are not making sense :) 02:28 eythian pianohacker: it's true, that didn't make sense :) 02:28 pianohacker cait, sorry 02:28 cait and css and jquery are not water proof 02:28 eythian wizzyrea_: bug 12584 02:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12584 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-conf.xml for package installations get out of sync 02:28 wizzyrea_ YES 02:28 wizzyrea_ thank you 02:28 wizzyrea_ eythian++ 02:29 pianohacker *and if a library really wants them _hidden_ they can do some CSS 02:29 pianohacker that make more sense? 02:29 cait yep 02:29 cait but i think it would still require a new patch 02:29 cait because this now is kill tab/not kill tab 02:29 cait it's not hard to implement read only 02:29 cait but we need to agree on something 02:30 cait so that's why the 3 options came in - the read-only was the new one :) 02:30 pianohacker cait: I'll post a comment 02:33 cait thx 02:47 cait good night all 03:54 BobB irma, jamesb interesting mention in #koha this morning: 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:18] <-- cait1 (~katrin@x5f7101e4.dyn.telefonica.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> wizzyrea: for rda - 10306 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> but 10306 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> bug 10306 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <huginn`> Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA) 03:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA) 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> i think that's one of the more complicated things we need to look into 03:54 huginn` 04Bug 10306: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA) 03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:42] <wizzyrea_> hm yes, it's problematic. 03:55 BobB LOL wrong channel, sorry guys 03:55 eythian at least it was pretty innocent :) 03:55 eythian @wunder nzwn 03:55 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 03:55 Francesca soon cold 03:56 Francesca grrr auto correct 03:56 Francesca anyone around? 03:56 BobB eythian +1 03:57 eythian Francesca: ain't nobody here but us chickens 03:57 Francesca lol 03:57 Francesca why chickens? 03:57 * mtj waves to Francesca and eythian 03:57 eythian Francesca: because that's the name of the song 03:57 * Francesca waves back 03:58 Francesca oh I've never heard the song 03:58 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnyB0a8G71Y <-- some people know nothing about music eh ;) 03:58 Francesca I'm a music student 03:59 eythian and yet... 03:59 Francesca just a classical one 03:59 Francesca nice song 03:59 Francesca I just don't know a lot about jazz 04:00 eythian it was top of the R&B chart, and on the pop chart in 1946. 04:01 Francesca I wasn't alive in 1946 04:01 * eythian switches from that to Mesh for a bit of a change. 04:02 eythian Francesca: no excuse 04:02 * Francesca turns on the four seasons 04:02 ibeardslee .. spring please /me has had enough of winter 04:03 pianohacker @later tell Joubu I'm working on applying the columns configuration tool to additem.pl, and there's a few difficulties I'd like to talk through with you 04:03 huginn` pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 04:03 Francesca spring is the one I always start with 04:03 pianohacker also, hi Francesca 04:03 Francesca though I can play the 2nd movement of winter on my recorder 04:03 Francesca hey pianohacker 04:03 wahanui I HATE XML 04:03 Francesca hahahaha do you really pianohacker? 04:03 pianohacker I need to change that, I have things I hate more these days... 04:03 Francesca lol 04:04 Francesca how do you change that 04:04 Francesca someone set mine up for me 04:04 pianohacker wahanui: forget pianohacker 04:04 wahanui pianohacker: I forgot pianohacker 04:04 eythian no wahanui, pianohacker is <reply>I HATE ALMOST EVERYTHING 04:04 pianohacker hahahaha ow 04:05 pianohacker thanks eythian 04:05 eythian :D 04:05 Francesca piano hacker doesn't hate pianos 04:05 pianohacker exactly 04:05 Francesca or hacking pianos 04:05 eythian then why is he chopping them up like that? 04:05 Francesca as proven by the username 04:05 eythian where do you think he got his username? 04:05 Francesca I meant hacking in digital sense 04:05 pianohacker yeah, it's metaphorical! 04:06 Francesca not axe wielding kill the inanimate object sense 04:06 eythian "A quick job that produces what is needed, but not well?" 04:06 * eythian chooses definitions to be the most entertaining at the time 04:06 pianohacker eythian: so much faith... 04:06 Francesca piano hacker you don't wield axes against inanimate objects do you? 04:06 Francesca hahahaha 04:07 pianohacker Francesca: uhhhhhhh of course not 04:07 Francesca I'd be worried if you did 04:07 pianohacker only firewood... 04:07 pianohacker on that note, time to head out for the day 04:07 eythian I'd be more concerned about the animate objects 04:08 pianohacker eythian: what you don't see coming won't hurt you :D 04:08 eythian that's what they saying, I'm sceptical. 04:08 eythian -ing 04:09 * Francesca is very cold 04:09 eythian @wunder nzwn 04:09 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 04:09 eythian so, feels like 3° out there 04:10 Francesca very very cold then 04:10 Francesca and it didn't snow in brooklyn 04:10 ibeardslee curse you eythian curse you and your earworms 04:10 Francesca in my opinion it is sad that its so cold but theres no fun coming from it like there would be if it snowed 04:10 eythian it almost looked like it was snowing in town earlier, but didn't quite manage 04:10 eythian ibeardslee: you're welcome 04:11 Francesca it was snowing in karori 04:11 * eythian used to work in snow. Over it, totally. 04:11 * Francesca has only seen snow once or twice 04:11 * Francesca is so not over snow 04:12 eythian reminds me, I should see what it's like down south, I suspect my parent's are trapped in the Sounds as the weather turned just after they went there. 04:12 eythian -' 04:12 ibeardslee I once had a white christmas (Groton, Connecticut, USA). Not as exciting after scraping snow/ice off the driveway 04:13 Francesca I had a white christmas in 2012 04:13 Francesca we stayed in canada 04:13 Francesca that was fun 04:38 AmitG hi all 04:40 Francesca sup 04:53 cdickinson it came so close to snowing in the Hutt last night, oh man 04:53 cdickinson it was agonising 04:54 cdickinson constant sleet for the entire night 04:54 cdickinson and hail too 04:54 cdickinson but no, that horrible state of stupid cold but no snow :P 04:55 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt 04:55 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.4°C (4:50 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 06:42 reiveune hello 06:42 wahanui hi, reiveune 06:56 Joubu Good morning #koha 07:03 alex_a bonjour 07:03 wahanui privet, alex_a 07:12 AmitG hi alex_a 07:17 gaetan_B hello 07:23 * magnuse waves 07:27 magnuse @wunder boo 07:27 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 07:28 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:28 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 23.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 07:58 mtj http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11478112 08:00 mtj ..duet at the end, is nice 08:31 drojf morning #koha 08:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:31 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 08:46 * cait waves 08:47 drojf hi cait 08:49 drojf great, if mveron and Joubu come to berlin, it's already a small hackfest :) 08:54 cait i'd like to join them 08:55 cait and i like the idea 08:55 cait maybe we can take turns? 08:55 magnuse huh, hackfest? 08:55 wahanui well, hackfest is http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/koha-hackfest-marseille-2014 08:56 * magnuse goes to read the list 09:05 magnuse ooh, very cool! 09:05 drojf magnuse: joining? :) 09:07 magnuse i sure hope so! 09:07 drojf \o/ 09:07 magnuse havn't made up my mind if july is optimal... 09:07 magnuse it might be 09:07 cait why wait until next year? :P 09:08 magnuse that would be in my summer holiday, but that would mean wife and kid might be able to tag along 09:08 magnuse cait: you think we should go to germany for summer holiday this year? 09:09 drojf magnuse: me neither. we would have to check how holidays work and things. also what room options i will actually have 09:09 cait i could imagine worse places :) 09:13 * magnuse would want to rent an appartment 09:17 cait :) 09:18 * indradg waves 09:19 drojf magnuse: we have huge gentrification problems with people renting out flats as holiday appartments, taking them away from the regular market. that said, there should be something available :P 09:19 drojf i think some of the youth hostels have appartment options too 09:23 drojf hi indradg 09:24 indradg hi drojf! all the best for the Berlin Hackfest next year. 09:24 drojf indradg: thanks. you should join! :) 09:24 indradg i will... if I can manage to put together the airfare :) 09:25 drojf yay! 09:58 marcelr hi #koha 09:58 marcelr Joubu: bug 14494 09:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future 09:58 marcelr I also had a patch coming ;) 10:16 cait hm can we get a sign-off for bug 14264? :) (just mentioning in hopes someone gets interested) 10:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14264 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export of CSV from late orders form does only work in English 10:16 marcelr Joubu around 10:18 Joubu marcelr: ? 10:19 marcelr hi Joubu : if you do not touch bug 14494, i will do some work on it still 10:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future 10:19 marcelr prevent double work.. 10:21 Joubu I don't. What do you want to do? 10:22 Joubu marcelr: all tests pass here 10:23 cait @wunder Konstanz 10:23 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 10:23 marcelr ok, i will have a closer look 10:25 Joubu marcelr: what do you want to change? 10:26 marcelr i am adding part of my code and removing the 9999 with floating tz 10:26 marcelr will do via a followup 10:30 AmitG hi Joubu 11:04 cait Joubu++ # qa! 11:06 Joubu marcelr: for the DBIC error, see the deps 11:11 marcelr oops 11:11 marcelr a dependency.. 11:11 wahanui a dependency is actually for libgraphics-magick-perl. 11:13 cait also marcelr++ :) 11:15 Joubu marcelr: you will still get the warning msgs, but the tests will pass. 11:16 marcelr Joubu: yes I see it now, just having my doubts if addings evals it the right solution? 11:17 marcelr Joubu: could we add your tests with TestBuilder for bug 14494 in a new file? 11:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future 11:17 Joubu marcelr: if you like, but we will need tests 11:18 marcelr I would like that, yes: Shall I move them? 11:18 Joubu marcelr: it's not the best solution, but we don't have a quick&easy one atm 11:18 Joubu yes 11:39 xarragon Anyone familiar with DBI that can explain to me why this happens? http://bf2526df1e3551da.paste.se/ 11:39 xarragon I am using the 'IN' SQL qualifier to list a bunch of borrowernumbers, but I only get one result back. 11:40 xarragon If I remove the 'IN' clause I get all expected rows. 11:41 xarragon If I specify '(1,2)', am I not supposed to get 1 and 2 back? 11:42 xarragon My guess is that the binding is the problem.. 11:43 xarragon yes, I do get the expected results with the numbers hardcoded in the prepared query 11:43 cait Joubu: thx for looking at that maze of a patch - i will try to fix it, but probably can't before next week 11:43 xarragon Must be the fact that am passing them as a string then. Being escaped I guess 11:43 cait if you wanted todo a follow up i'd sign it off 11:45 Joubu xarragon: you need: IN (?,?) 11:45 cait hm i think for in and placeholders there is also a snippet in the coding buidelines 11:45 cait on how you can do it 11:45 xarragon Joubu: Yes, but how do I do that for N number of numbers? Do I have to manually build a string with N number of placeholders? 11:45 xarragon cait: Ah, ok, thanks I will look at it 11:45 Joubu xarragon: yes 11:46 Joubu xarragon: ('?' x scalar(@params)) 11:46 xarragon cait: Excellent, many thanks: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#SQL10:_Placeholders 11:46 xarragon Joubu: And big thanks to you too. 11:46 cait xarragon: i looked it up myself recently :) 11:47 cait ... Joubu is a programmer - he knows how to do it... and i am a librarian - i know where to look it up :P 11:48 Joubu it's always better to double check, I have forgotten the commas in my example... 11:54 cait :) 11:58 cait hm bug 10937 - any preferences from you all on the authorised category name? 11:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Passed QA , Option to hide and group itemtypes from advanced search 11:59 cait It's a category to group itemtypes 12:00 cait indradg++ # assigning bugs :) 12:00 cait "ITYPECAT or ITEMTYPECAT? Or a bit different: ITYPEGROUP" - was what i came up with late at night yesterday 12:00 marcelr Joubu: could you add a signoff on the second patch of bug 14494; that would be needed to get it to Signed off 12:00 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future 12:06 Joubu cait: I'd say itypecat 12:06 cait thx joubu 12:08 cait why cat over group? 12:09 Joubu marcelr: I don't understand the changes you have done in the test file 12:10 Joubu you make the tests dependent on the branchcodes MPL and CPL 12:10 Joubu which is why testbuilder is useful :) 12:10 Joubu no need to have them in the DB if you don't specify them 12:10 Joubu same for the category code 12:11 Joubu marcelr: and tests are now missing for CalcDateDue 12:13 marcelr Joubu: i needed that; you use $borrower for patronflags 12:13 marcelr this is not my wish.. 12:14 marcelr if you resolve patronflags, we can remove the other stuff 12:14 marcelr :) 12:14 marcelr tests for CalcDateDue is true 12:15 marcelr will add a few tomorrow or so 12:15 Joubu marcelr: we mean the tests don't pass if you remove the default values passed to testbuilder? 12:15 marcelr you use $borrower 12:15 marcelr see patronflags 12:16 Joubu I didn't pass them in my first patch, and the tests pass 12:16 marcelr please read it: $borrower 12:16 marcelr comes from the code before your additions 12:16 Joubu marcelr: ok sorry 12:16 Joubu it was a mistake 12:16 marcelr np 12:16 Joubu it should be $patron, the one generated by the builder 12:17 marcelr resubmit i will so again 12:17 Joubu I am starving, back after lunch :) 12:24 marcelr Joubu: adjusted your test 12:40 drojf BobB++ 12:43 magnuse yeah BobB++ 12:43 irma ^..^ 12:44 * BobB waves to Europe 12:47 * druthb waves to BobB and irma, then turns round and waves to Europe 12:50 AmitG hi druthb, BobB 12:55 * magnuse waves southwards 12:57 druthb Hi, AmitG. :) 12:58 nengard monring all 13:01 BobB its late here, good night droif, magnuse, druthb, AmitG, nengard, #koha 13:05 magnuse kia ora nengard! 13:05 nengard magnuse!!!!!! 13:05 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 13:05 druthb kia ora, magnuse. :) 13:05 nengard druthb!!!!! 13:05 wahanui somebody said druthb was an amazing person 13:05 nengard hehe 13:05 druthb lies! 13:06 Joubu marcelr: thanks! 13:06 nengard :( stop it!! 13:06 druthb :P 14:24 mveron Hi #koha 14:33 mveron @wunder Allschwil 14:33 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 23.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 14:41 drojf hi mveron :) 14:42 mveron hi drojf :-) 14:42 mveron @wunder Berlin 14:42 huginn` mveron: Error: No such location could be found. 14:42 mveron Oh, no hackfest then, if Berlin does not exist :-) 14:43 drojf lol 14:44 drojf yeah i don't know why it does not know berlin. it works like 14:44 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 14:44 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 17.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 14:44 drojf i assume it finds too many locations and the message is just bad ;) 15:09 mveron @wunder basel 15:09 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Bale-Mulhouse, Switzerland is 23.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 15:11 reiveune bye 15:11 pianohacker Joubu: around? 15:13 Joubu pianohacker: yep 15:20 pianohacker Joubu: so, the big difficulty I'm having with making additem.pl respect the columns code is that the order is not assured. I'm thinking of hacking together something by adding attributes to the <th>s and matching against that, but are there any easier solutions you can think of before I dive in? 15:28 Joubu pianohacker: it will be quite difficult to add ColVis to this table I think. It cannot work if the column's order changes. 15:30 Joubu But... can we have an exhaustive list of the fields which can be displayed on this table? 15:32 pianohacker Joubu: exhaustive enough, I think 15:33 pianohacker Joubu: and doh! regarding bug 14464, that was 100% debugging code I forgot to take out (prints out a traceback on die()) 15:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14464 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Add ability to cancel waiting holds from checkin screen 15:34 Joubu pianohacker: If we have an exhaustive list, we could manage all of them with the column configuration tool and display/hide 15:34 Joubu pianohacker: I didn't look at the code, but I think it's quite dirty in this area.... 15:34 Joubu pianohacker: yes that's what I thought :) 15:35 pianohacker Joubu: ah, so not necessarily with the KohaTable function but using the columns code 15:35 pianohacker Joubu: and I can submit a followup, but it's just removing those two lines 15:35 Joubu pianohacker: Are you aware of admin/columns_settings.pl ? 15:36 Joubu pianohacker: ok just let a note on the bug report, I will remove them on qaing it 15:42 mveron Bye #koha 15:42 pianohacker Joubu: yup, and how it saves to the DB and you can retrieve the settings with the ColumnSettings TT plugin 15:43 Joubu pianohacker: ok cool, it would be great if you manage to use the same way, to be consistent :) 15:44 pianohacker Joubu: I'll try, though I think I'll need to extend the JS in column-settings.inc a bit. Thanks 15:44 Joubu let me know if you have a WIP and you are stuck at some point 15:44 pianohacker probably will do, datatables is very confusing 16:05 gaetan_B bye 16:24 Joubu khall: Are you around? 16:24 Joubu khall: ok got it :) 16:36 Joubu khall: I finally let a note on bug 13517 16:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13517 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Show waiting date on reserve/request.pl 16:38 khall Joubu: it certainly must be unrelated to that patch series at least 16:39 khall I'd say submit a separate bug/patch for that. I imagine you want to add a check to the subroutine that sets holds to waiting right? 16:41 Joubu khall: no, a test on $res->item in request.pl 16:41 Joubu khall: it's unrelated to the patch series, but without the patch the app does not explodes :) 16:42 khall ah, I totally understand now 16:42 khall I'd say add a test and a carp 16:42 Joubu in request.pl there are several places where you check for $res->item before accessing to the attributes of the item 16:42 Joubu for instance 537 $reserve{'ccode'} = $res->item() ? $res->item()->ccode() : undef; 16:43 khall right, because unless a hold is found it's not guraranteed to have an item 16:43 Joubu yep 16:47 khall I say go ahead and add a followup! 16:48 Joubu khall: no, it's pqa :) I will add a note 16:49 khall cool. thanks! 16:49 Joubu If there is a bug somewhere else, I think it's better to know it 17:01 Joubu Bye #koha 17:39 indradg @wunder Kolkata 17:39 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 27.0°C (10:50 PM IST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 17:54 magnuse @wunder boo 17:54 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (7:20 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 19:28 pianohacker has anyone else seen repeated 999 (biblio{,item}number) fields? The DB in question has a complicated history, but we're a bit worried about a possible data corruption issue 20:42 cait hi #koha 20:42 drojf hi cait :) 20:47 * wnickc waves 20:50 pianohacker hi errybody 21:18 indradg any debian 8 users here? 21:25 cait sorry notme 21:37 pianohacker indradg: I'm on 9 21:38 pianohacker used 8 for a while 21:38 pianohacker not in production, but for all my development 21:38 indradg ok! any gotchas to keep in mind... while moving from 7? 21:39 pianohacker indradg: honestly, the biggest one I've run into (besides possibly perl dependencies) is the apache 2.2 -> 2.4 transition 21:39 pianohacker slight config file format differences 21:40 indradg pianohacker: thanks! the 2.2 -> 2.4 business I have already tackled with Ubuntu 12.04 -> 14.04... should be same 21:40 pianohacker cool. 21:40 indradg :) 21:46 indradg rangi++ #14290 21:49 pianohacker bug 14290 21:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14290 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Add a table foot to circulation matrix 21:49 pianohacker ah nice 22:38 eythian hi 22:38 wahanui privet, eythian 22:40 eythian magnuse: the English word "gun" comes from Norway. 22:52 drojf hi eythian. i am still missing a "yay i'd come to berlin for a hackfest" or two from nz ;) 22:52 eythian drojf: heh, too soon to realistically plan yet, but definitely something we've talked about. All other things being equal, I totally would :) 22:54 drojf eythian: awesome! way more than i could hope for. :) and kind of scary, altogether ;) 24h ago i was wondering if maybe 10 people would join 23:01 rangi *sigh* 23:01 rangi testbuilder 23:01 wahanui testbuilder is basically exactly for that me thinks. 23:01 rangi breaks more than the tests do 23:01 rangi its the sqlhelper of unittesting 23:01 drojf whoops 23:02 drojf rangi: maybe it is a spelling error? 23:02 rangi heh 23:04 wizzyrea SUCH SNARK. 23:04 wizzyrea it's ok, it's funny. 23:09 rangi http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/278388/gisborne-wakes-to-'a-sea-of-white' it never snows there .. that's crazy 23:09 ibeardslee wow 23:10 drojf it's hardly ever 40° here. i think it's ok 23:11 wizzyrea this is some pretty serious cold weather. I think it's as cold as it's been since I've been here. 23:11 wizzyrea maybe one day last year, but definitely not 3+ days 23:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 23:11 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (1:00 AM CEST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 23:12 * wizzyrea pines a bit for 16 23:13 eythian @wunder nzwn 23:13 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 23:13 eythian only a feels-like of 2° today. It was 1° yesterday... 23:13 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 23:13 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 13.0°C (12:50 AM CEST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 23:13 wizzyrea slightly better! 23:13 eythian wizzyrea: twice as much! :) 23:13 drojf lol 23:13 eythian (cos that makes sense at all) 23:13 wizzyrea I... I don't think that is how that works. 23:14 wizzyrea :D 23:15 * eythian was very confused for a moment, thought I was on a Catalyst channel and was wondering when we'd hired another Josh. 23:15 Francesca morning 23:16 drojf lol. there is a black market for appointments at berlin citizen centres now. because the service is so bad that you have to wait for weeks 23:16 Francesca rangi: I'll probably be in close to 1pm 23:16 eythian drojf: what do the citizen centres do? 23:16 drojf you get stuff like passports there ;) 23:16 eythian ah right 23:17 eythian we just do it by mail 23:17 eythian / internet 23:17 rangi cool, Francesca 23:17 drojf so if you would like to travel… know it in advance for at least 6 months or… well 23:17 drojf eythian: yeah right, future people :P 23:18 rangi you can take your own passport photo with your phone here, and upload it 23:18 eythian I once got a passport on 7 business days notice over christmas because I forgot to do it and was going to Australia 23:18 rangi i did my whole passport renewal online 23:18 Francesca the last time I needed a passport renewed mum did it 23:18 eythian (mind you, I paid extra for the privilege of getting it fast.) 23:19 rangi they even have a funky bit of software that rejects it if it is too dark, etc, before a human even looks at it 23:19 eythian I should check mine, it may be coming up for renewal 23:19 Francesca I didn't know you could take your own passport photos 23:19 rangi yep, can now 23:19 ibeardslee I know someone that recently replaced their passport, 3 days, and didn't event do the priority option 23:19 Francesca I always go in to noel seeming or another place to get mine done 23:19 rangi i wonder if they have gone back to the 10 years yet? 23:20 drojf after waiting to weeks for some secret checksum thingy via snailmail i uploaded a photo for health insurance. after two weeks without an answer i called them, they said they did not like my photo, i have to wait another two weeks for a number to upload another one and then another two weeks to maybe get the insurance card 23:20 eythian yeah, when I did my priority one, it was a few years ago 23:20 eythian rangi: I don't think they have 23:20 Francesca hmmm I don't know if its 10 years or not 23:20 eythian they've been talking about it though 23:20 Francesca I thought they had decided they were going to do it 23:20 rangi ahh end of this year 23:20 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68836523/Passports-for-adults-to-be-valid-for-10-years 23:21 rangi hang on to then if you can :) 23:21 Francesca Yeah well I got mine renewed in 2012 23:21 Francesca so its still got another 2 years to go 23:21 drojf (i then declined handing in a photo for religious reasons and got a card without a photo) 23:21 wizzyrea aren't they going to charge something outrageous for the 10 year ones though? 23:21 Francesca can you have passport photos with glasses now? They made me take them off last time 23:22 Francesca and I look really different without my glasses 23:22 Francesca yeah they were 23:22 rangi nope 23:22 rangi they make you take off your glasses when you go through immigration most times too 23:22 Francesca yeah 23:22 wizzyrea because the facial recognition can't deal with glasses. 23:22 Francesca very very annoying as I am practically blind without them 23:23 wizzyrea yeah same. 23:23 Francesca "This will also result in a reduction in the annual price of an adult passport for New Zealanders. The 10-year adult passport price will cost $180 (including GST), an average saving of more than $90 over the 10-year validity period." 23:23 Francesca to quote stuff thats what the passports are gonna cost 23:23 wizzyrea and sorry, anywhere from here where I'm going to have to go through immigration is probably far enough away that I wouldn't want to wear my contact on the plane. 23:23 wizzyrea contacts* 23:23 eythian wizzyrea: I just take my glasses off when going through the scanner things 23:23 drojf $180? Oo 23:24 wizzyrea I do too, but I run into things. 23:24 eythian you're not moving when it's taking your photo though 23:24 eythian well, you shouldn't be 23:24 eythian it tells you to stand still 23:24 Francesca yeah contacts are a pain on the plane 23:24 wizzyrea I like that you don't feel the pressure to get going 23:24 cdickinson drojf: it could be worse, the five year passports are almost that much right now 23:24 Francesca it does but if you can't read the instructions there is a problem 23:24 wizzyrea because I always feel like I have to GTFO of the way as fast as possible 23:24 Francesca I just get the person behind me to tell me what the scanner says 23:25 wizzyrea is harder when shepherding small people :) 23:25 eythian that's a point 23:25 Francesca as I am not allowed to move and can't read without my glasses 23:25 Francesca I'm not that small am I? 23:25 wizzyrea hehe no 23:25 cdickinson lol 23:26 wizzyrea I reckon you can get through immigration just fine on your own ;) 23:26 wizzyrea or customs, I guess 23:26 Francesca yup been there done that 23:26 Francesca american customs in L.A are the scariest 23:27 Francesca the ones in san fran weren't so bad 23:27 wizzyrea I haven't ever been in the "going in" line there. 23:27 cdickinson my sister went through LAX on her way to Germany 23:27 wizzyrea but then again, they claim me. 23:27 cdickinson she was held up there for aaaaagges 23:27 wizzyrea so it would probably be not terrible 23:28 Francesca we visited L.A in 2012 23:28 Francesca stayed there for a bit before going to canada for christmas 23:28 Francesca we went to disney land 23:29 eythian All I know about LA is from Blade Runner. It doesn't look like an inviting place in four years time. 23:29 drojf »Villa Blumenfisch am Großen Wannsee« lol there are great hotel options in berlin. villa flowerfish… 23:30 Francesca villa flowerfish?? 23:30 eythian I'm sure that place isn't a groß as it sounds. 23:30 eythian *as 23:30 drojf lol 23:31 drojf i consider creating a hipster lemonade by that name now. but it is probably trademarked 23:31 rangi well i wannsee it at least 23:31 rangi cross language puns are the wurst 23:31 drojf hehe 23:31 wizzyrea #dadjokes 23:32 * Francesca is slightly confused 23:32 eythian wizzyrea: that channel is empty...? 23:33 wizzyrea not anymore. 23:33 wizzyrea condition, to join it every statement must be a pun. 23:33 eythian https://community.pagerduty.com/t/pagerduty-ringtones/63 <-- wizzyrea, set these up for thatcher when he's on pager 23:34 wizzyrea eythian++ that's amazing. 23:34 * wizzyrea sends taht 23:34 * Francesca should probably do something productive now 23:35 eythian I think wizzyrea is having a seizure over there. 23:35 wizzyrea that's amazing. 23:36 drojf [off] i'm still thrilled i am free software foundation europe fellow #3333. it's so easy to make me happy 23:36 wizzyrea the pager he wields isn't nearly smart enough to use .mp3 for it's tones, but boy if it was... 23:38 wizzyrea [off] trea says: if you're going to be awoken by such a thing, at least there is pleasing diatonic resolution. 23:39 eythian haha 23:39 BobB good morning #koha 23:40 eythian drojf: I can't log in to the FSF page to see where I am in it, "De pagina verwijst niet op een juiste manier door." which is not helpful at all. 23:40 BobB that's Dutch? eythian is your man! 23:41 eythian it is, but that was already me. 23:41 BobB oh 23:41 eythian Also, there are people here who are significantly better at it than I am :) 23:42 drojf there is a hostel called »Cat's Pajamas«. sold 23:42 eythian haha 23:42 eythian excellent 23:42 cait drojf: why are you researching hostels? :) 23:42 Francesca i love that name 23:43 drojf cait: because i wanted to close tabs and then there was a funny name and then i thought why not fiund a nice place to stay if i am too bored to go home, or something 23:43 cait aha 23:43 cait go to sleep 23:44 drojf orrr. do i have to? 23:44 eythian it is nearly lunch time, after all 23:47 drojf "the hostel for 10€/night is sold out, would you like to book this one for 00€/night instead?" sure why not 23:47 cait drojf: just meaning well... 23:47 drojf s/00€/100€ 23:48 Francesca only 1 week still Armageddon now! 23:51 eythian I haven't _seen_ any of the horsemen yet. 23:52 Francesca horsemen? for Armageddon? 23:52 wizzyrea the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. 23:52 eythian four of them, traditionally 23:54 Francesca right 23:54 Francesca well I have to catch a bus in 20 mins so I should probably go and do something 23:54 cait your knowledge about the armageddon makes me worry a bt :) 23:54 cait i better got to sleep 23:55 cait night all 23:55 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 23:55 wizzyrea It could be your last. 23:55 drojf should we ask greece for an update regarding kohacon 16? or just wait until september? i found an email to the main list from 2011 from Giannis Kourmoulis. i don't see other (or any) contact details in the wiki 23:55 * Francesca waves goodbye to cait 23:55 wizzyrea that's kind of an awkward situation :/ 23:55 drojf night cait 23:55 cait drojf: i think bugzilla has an email address - i think more details would be nice 23:55 cait :) 23:55 Francesca (Bad pun time) right armageddon out of here see you all later this afternoon 23:56 eythian that was horriffic 23:56 cdickinson *claps slowly* 23:56 wizzyrea WELL DONE. 23:56 wizzyrea you are allowed in #dadjokes. 23:56 cdickinson off to /r/dadjokes with you, Francesca 23:56 Francesca woo hoo! I'm normally bad at puns 23:57 Francesca right I will see you all later 23:57 * Francesca waves goodbye to everyone 23:57 eythian > The gorge is closed while emergency services work to empty the truck of blood. <-- that sure is a line from the local news 23:57 wizzyrea wot 23:58 cdickinson and that is /r/nocontext worthy 23:58 wizzyrea link or it didn't happen 23:58 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/70117042/manawatu-gorge-closed-while-tanker-is-emptied-of-animal-blood 23:58 * wizzyrea blinks 23:58 wizzyrea what are they going to do with the blood? put it into the river? 23:58 * wizzyrea reads 23:59 eythian presumably another tanker 23:59 wizzyrea they don't say what, if anything, happened to the driver