Time Nick Message 02:49 dcook I love the "Select all sample data" link... 02:51 wizzyrea cdickinson: you are wondering what I'm giggling about, just a warning, it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mVHJ6OwTYWc 02:54 dcook hehe 02:54 * dcook giggles as well 02:54 wizzyrea I am still shaking my head. 02:54 wizzyrea that is totally my new rickroll. 02:54 dcook Hehe 02:55 dcook Ok, it's starting to make my head want to explode 02:55 wizzyrea that makes it PERFECT. 02:55 dcook hehe 02:57 cdickinson reminds me of when I watch videos of people playing air horn pranks at people on golf courses 02:57 cdickinson man, those are gold 02:58 wizzyrea ^.^ 04:21 wizzyrea eythian++ 04:21 eythian I just got a reply: 04:22 eythian > I want to change the password of Koha Admin. > Let me know the method. 04:22 rangi heh 04:22 eythian I do not see how that is in any way related. 04:22 wizzyrea if it's coming from someone who purports to be a Koha vendor, that isn't exactly an endorsement of their skills. 04:22 eythian no, it's not 04:22 eythian (that would be funnier) 04:23 * wizzyrea worries that their nonsense is going to ruin it for everyone. 04:24 wizzyrea as a self-curated yellow pages is almost sure to devolve into madness. 04:24 wizzyrea but I might be willing to let them do it. 04:24 AmitG heya wizzyrea 04:24 wahanui wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore 04:24 eythian I don't think it was that 04:25 wizzyrea hallo 04:25 eythian I think it was just an unrelated question 04:25 wizzyrea oh, no that wasn't directly linked logically to the email response you got 04:26 eythian oh, so it was like the email response I got then :) 04:26 wizzyrea more to the notion that if there is a lot of squabbling on the list I might just remove the list entirely from the website and put it on the wiki, for vendors to self curate. 04:27 dcook That might lead to even more of a storm though :/ 04:28 * dcook isn't entirely sure what we're talking about but adds 2 cents as always 04:28 rangi dcook: no one will see it 04:28 rangi and it wont clog up the list 04:28 wizzyrea the recent ... I don't even know how to describe what's going on on the email list as relates to the vendor listings 04:29 wizzyrea fracas? 04:30 dcook Hmm, I guess I haven't looked at the list in a little while.. 04:50 dcook Hmm.. 04:50 dcook my ( $year, $month, $day ) = split ',', $today_iso; # FIXME: iso dates don't have commas 04:50 * dcook wonders how that playso ut 04:50 dcook plays out* 04:51 eythian that seems like a strange thing to do 04:52 dcook Agreed 04:52 dcook Apparently you can put "YYYY-MM-DD" in as the default value in a MARC framework? 04:53 dcook And it's supposed to get transformed into the actual year, month, and day 04:54 eythian oh, nofty 04:54 eythian *nifty 04:54 dcook Yeah, I'd never heard of that before 04:54 dcook Not sure if it actually works 04:54 dcook Might quickly check.. 04:55 dcook Hmm yep 04:55 dcook Looks like it does 04:55 dcook That's neat 05:20 dcook Oh wow... that was a lot of emails.. 05:29 dcook "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" 05:29 dcook Random dashboard quote :) 05:29 eythian haha 05:31 eythian arg, I ordered something in the weekend, and the guy hasn't even shipped it yet, all I got was an email in reply to my "where is is already" query asking to show I was licensed for it (which I am.) 05:32 eythian (whereas all the other things I ordered in the weekend arrived already, but are useless until the main bit shows up.) 05:33 dcook :( 06:25 * magnuse waves 06:29 AmitG hi indradg 06:36 reiveune hello 06:36 indradg hi all 06:44 indradg @seen magnuse 06:44 huginn` indradg: magnuse was last seen in #koha 18 minutes and 34 seconds ago: * magnuse waves 06:45 indradg hi magnuse, AmitG, wizzyrea, dcook, reiveune 06:45 reiveune hi :) 06:48 AmitG hi reivenue 06:48 AmitG @seen alex 06:48 huginn` AmitG: I have not seen alex. 06:48 AmitG @seen alex_a 06:48 huginn` AmitG: alex_a was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 41 minutes, and 1 second ago: <alex_a> AmitG: yep 06:52 magnuse hiya indradg et al 06:52 magnuse @wunder boo 06:52 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 06:53 indradg magnuse: you recently wrote up some sms::send driver for your local providers... didn't you? 06:54 magnuse nah, someone else wrote it (for Viktor), but i am the one running it on my server 06:56 magnuse indradg: https://github.com/eskaaren/SMS-Send-Telenor 06:57 indradg aha! i remembered Viktor posting about it 06:58 indradg magnuse: a driver I wrote SMS::Send::IN::Unicel is working perfectly fine when I use it from any other perl script. but not from within Koha. 06:59 * indradg scratching head on how to debug it 06:59 Viktor True indradg. I wrote about it on facebook. It was Eivin who wrote the driver and Magnuse who installed and helped with getting it configured and working on the servers. 07:00 indradg yes 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:03 AmitG hi alex_A 07:03 indradg good morning alex_a 07:10 magnuse indradg: firewall issues? or we had something similar, because the provider had messed up the ip address that we were supposed to be able to send from 07:21 indradg magnuse: nope.. this is happening on the local machines, from which I can send out SMSes just fine 07:21 indradg there are no errors in the intranet-error.log 07:21 indradg but against the user's Notices tab, it is "failed" 07:30 gaetan_B hello 07:31 kivilahtio hjello 07:34 drojf morning 07:35 indradg hi gaetan_B kivilahtio drojf! 07:35 * indradg waves 07:35 drojf hi indradg 07:37 kivilahtio Oh man, there is no end for hte things that need refactoring 07:37 AmitG hi gaetan_B drojf 07:38 kivilahtio and when I think of making tests. I always end up with no way of setting up test context for permissions 07:38 dcook later y'all 07:39 kivilahtio we should have a Koha::Permissions-library for CRUD:ing Koha permissions 07:39 kivilahtio like an easy to use interface for setting them up 07:40 kivilahtio If I write one, nobody will sign it off :( 07:41 drojf hi AmitG. sorry got disconnected 07:44 magnuse kivilahtio: try it, you might be pleasantly surprised :-) 07:44 kivilahtio magnuse: ok. I will make a nice Koha::Permission library to CRUd permissions in a more modern and nice way 07:44 kivilahtio magnuse: but how would I test it? 07:45 kivilahtio with Cucumber? which is experimental? 07:45 kivilahtio or selenium? 07:45 wahanui rumour has it selenium is more things like "perform this action, ensure that this is the result" 07:45 kivilahtio magnuse: I could just do unit test to test the core libraries 07:45 magnuse kivilahtio: you could just do regular unit tests? 07:45 gaetan_B kivilahtio: there are a lot of user requests for easier way to manage permissions actually 07:45 gaetan_B chances are you would get some testers ;) 07:46 magnuse gaetan_B: like group permissions? 07:46 kivilahtio gaetan_B: What I am hoping to do is enable creating permissions for test contexts 07:46 kivilahtio like refactor the permission management interface 07:46 gaetan_B magnuse: like having roles 07:46 kivilahtio well I will start iwth just creating a library to manage permissions 07:46 gaetan_B (which might not be what kivilahtio had in mind at all) 07:46 magnuse so you could create a group/role called cataloguers and give all of them the same permissions 07:46 kivilahtio gaetan_B: but now that you mentioned roles, I will make the library thinking of group permissions 07:46 kivilahtio gaetan_B: we have the same need 07:47 gaetan_B any large library will stumble on this issue indeed 07:47 kivilahtio gaetan_B: I have a TON of experimental stuff and I cannot bear it anymore. Something needs to move to master so I can progress. 07:47 kivilahtio and If I write the library which is easy to consume from a RESTful perspective, I'd hate for it to go stale :( 07:48 kivilahtio gaetan_B: I'll will draw a schematic of it. I will keep you and magnuse posted. 07:48 gaetan_B ok :) 07:56 magnuse great 08:43 cait kivilahtio: koha::object and the new testbuilder maybe 08:43 kivilahtio cait: it doesnät set the borrowers.flags 08:43 cait i mean as a starting point 08:44 cait both are still quite new, so I wnated to mention them :) 10:28 mtj hey #koha 10:29 mtj aah... i see Amit pinged me before - but hes not about 10:32 magnuse mtj: there he is :-) 11:03 kivilahtio magnuse: gaetan_B: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1asi1IJfd_N1Ra8PQxblfOS1GPROWuspT7926YRXa_OU/edit?usp=sharing 11:03 khall is anyone aware of the reserveconstraints table actually doing anything? As far as I'm aware it's been vestigial for years. Can anyone dispute this? 11:04 kivilahtio I am fleshing out the Koha::Permission, or Koha::Auth::Permission namespace 11:08 mtj khall: ask rangi about that one ^ 11:08 khall good idea 11:09 mtj i think it might well be vestigial now? 11:19 cait khall: i think it is to be removed - there is a bug somewhere already 11:19 cait khall: my guess is it has to do with the broken serial holds without items feature 11:20 cait because we used to have different holds types 11:20 cait and holds on issues without items... but that's been broken before 3.2 i think? 11:20 khall it definitely seems to be causing problems for us 11:21 khall cait: it's bug 9809 11:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of reserveconstraints 11:22 cait khall: hm i have onyl seen it empty 11:22 cait are your problems realted to serial records? 11:22 khall same for me 11:22 khall cait: nope, our problem is related to opac-based holds 11:22 cait hm 11:22 cait can you describe? 11:22 khall they aren't being trapped when checked in at the destination library 11:23 khall instead, Koha just says to send the item back to the home library 11:23 cait hm 11:23 cait but why do yout hink reserveconstraint is to blame? 11:23 khall If I remove the reserveconstraints for the _Findgroupreserve query they get picked up 11:23 khall s/for/from/ 11:23 cait hm 11:23 cait werid 11:23 cait because that's been there forever 11:23 khall yeah, never seen anything like it before 11:24 khall I feel like I haven't found the smoking gun yet 11:24 cait clues :) 11:24 khall but the problem is the first two queries are full joins with reserveconstraints so they always fail 11:24 cait what i know is: you really want to keep RoutingListAddReserves turned off 11:25 cait because that will create bad holds data 11:25 cait it's a sadly broken feature 11:25 cait and it can kill the ajaxy holds tables ando ther display things 11:25 khall that's no good! 11:25 cait ideally i'd like to see it revived... not removed tho :( 11:25 cait 'star' routing was cool when i first tested koha 11:26 cait bug 2894 11:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Routing list holds are broken 11:27 cait same for RenewSerialAddsSuggestion - also broken 11:40 cait khall: where do you see the full join? 11:41 khall I was recalling it wrong, the full join is for the holds queue stuff 11:41 cait i think it should be ok in FindGroup... 11:41 khall but still the reserve constaint stuff is causing the last query to not pick up the hold for some reason 11:41 khall even though it's a left join 11:42 cait hmmmmmm 11:43 cait do you have a reserves.contrainttype != a? 11:43 cait in your reserves table? 12:45 Dyrcona Kia ora, #koha! 12:57 khall @later tell Joubu I submitted a completed patch set for bug 9809 if you would sign off on it 12:57 huginn` khall: The operation succeeded. 12:57 khall cait ^ 13:01 magnuse bug 9809 13:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of reserveconstraints 13:02 khall anyone can sign off on it. If someone else does Joubu would be able to qa it 13:09 tcohen morning! 13:13 kivilahtio tcohen: evening 13:34 tcohen we should remove the "Paid support companies" section 13:45 indradg tcohen +1 13:46 cait we should move it to the wiki? 13:53 indradg or (temporarily) drop India from the list of countries due to increased compliants 16:00 indradg @wunder Kolkata 16:00 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0°C (9:20 PM IST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 16:15 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 16:15 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 26.0°C (5:50 PM CEST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 16:15 drojf close ;) 16:15 nengard @wunder 78754 16:15 huginn` nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 30.3°C (11:15 AM CDT on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 16:15 drojf ugh 16:15 nengard heh 16:15 nengard LOVE IT :) hehe 16:15 nengard well - not the clouds ... 16:15 drojf keep it :D 16:16 drojf we'll have 36 on saturday, some >40° Oo 16:16 cait thankfully i am on vacation from thursday on and can hide :P 16:16 nengard hehe 16:17 nengard summer is my fav time of year 16:17 drojf i visited my old work place. i forgot how nice the air condition there is 16:17 drojf i may go visit more often ;) 16:17 nengard hehe 16:22 drojf why would i get 082 when cataloguing in a certain framework, but not when editing said framework? 16:22 nengard if it's on the record when it was loaded in 16:22 nengard i think 16:23 drojf but it is a new record :) 16:23 nengard hmmmm 16:23 nengard .... i don't know :( 16:24 pianohacker drojf: that's really odd. You sure it's not just in the wrong place? The sorting can be funky, try a search 16:26 drojf it's in the fast add framework too. choose new record, fast add framework, there is 082. try to edit the fast add framework, it's not there 16:31 pianohacker drojf: is the underlying DB stuff okay? 16:31 pianohacker mysql> select * from marc_tag_structure where frameworkcode = '' AND tagfield like '08%'; 16:32 pianohacker (replacing the frameworkcode with the correct one, of course) 16:32 drojf i installed it today, not much time to break :D 16:32 drojf but maybe its an error in the german translation 16:34 drojf not in the db 16:34 drojf how does it come up in cataloguing then? :D 16:34 pianohacker is it in the default framework? 16:35 drojf yes 16:36 drojf interesting 16:36 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 16:37 pianohacker drojf: there might be some kind of fallback mechanism, might be worth changing the description in the default framework and seeing if the changes show up in the other framework. 16:39 drojf actually, it has no description in the cataloguing window 16:39 pianohacker what the crap? 16:39 pianohacker what version? 16:39 wahanui version is always noted in a comment on top 16:40 pianohacker huh, that was an actually helpful chatbot comment 16:40 drojf there is no 082 field without description in the whole table 16:40 drojf 3.18.latest 8 or what it is 16:41 pianohacker every time I dive into addbiblio I'm reminded how much I want it to die a horrible death 16:41 drojf lol 16:42 drojf not diving anywhere anymore today. will add 082, delete it and see what happens 16:43 drojf at least it took the name of the added one 16:44 drojf aaaand it's gone 16:44 drojf spooky ghost field 16:45 drojf 'someone' should check that. but not me :P at least not today 16:46 drojf would be interesting to know what it does if you use the ghost field to enter data 16:50 pianohacker drojf: you say interesting, I hear catalogers running screaming into the night 16:54 drojf it's in marc21_fastadd_framework.sql. it adds 082 subfields, but not the containing 082 field 16:55 drojf so the question is, do we want the field added or the subfields removed? 16:59 drojf bug 14478 16:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14478 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Fast Add Framework contains no 082 field but 082 subfields 17:00 drojf will fix it in the next days if nobody does it earlier 17:07 drojf lol. can edit advanced constraints for all subfields of 100, but not t. just won't open 17:12 drojf and setting subfields in 245 to collapsed has no effect, but it does work for other fields 17:14 cait hm try removing the mandatory on a? 17:15 drojf still does not work 17:17 drojf ah 17:17 drojf removing mandatory for 245 (field level) worked 17:17 cait 2 points! 17:17 cait ok... 1 point because it was on field level :P 17:18 cait bye all :) 17:18 drojf if you also fix the bug ;) 17:18 drojf cait++ 17:18 drojf bye cait 17:19 drojf 1,5 points, its also broken if i only use mandatory for a 17:20 gaetan_B bye 17:54 * magnuse waves 17:56 drojf hei magnuse 17:58 magnuse moin drojf 17:58 magnuse ...and nengard 17:58 magnuse ...and sophie_m 17:58 sophie_m bonsoir magnuse 17:58 nengard hola all 17:59 magnuse :-) 18:03 drojf there i wondered if i had not tested something about default indicators a long time ago, and then i found i actually tried to save somebody's (then 2,5 year old) patch 2,5 years ago. 18:03 drojf oh no it was only 1,5 years old back then ;) 18:10 magnuse drojf: time flies... 18:10 drojf and i still don't have default indicators :/ 18:22 magnuse :-( 18:23 cait the bug is still there i think 18:23 drojf bug 4888 18:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, salva, Failed QA , pre-set of field indicators value 18:24 drojf but it did not do what i am looking for, at least that is what i wrote there 18:26 magnuse maybe it does now? :-) 18:26 drojf nobody added code, so that would be weird :D 18:28 magnuse drojf: your expectations could have changed :-) 18:28 magnuse kia ora tcohen 18:30 drojf magnuse: no, they haven't :D 18:30 magnuse dang! :-) 18:33 tcohen hi guys 18:33 pianohacker hi tcohen :) 18:37 pianohacker hahaha wow 18:39 magnuse pianohacker: you scared him away ;-) 18:40 pianohacker apparently! 18:40 wahanui i heard apparently was vitally important to librarians 18:40 pianohacker I did send him and bgkriegel a long email about bug 4503 18:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Javascript files in js directory are not translated 18:42 magnuse pianohacker: ah, harrasment... no wonder he ran when he spotted you 18:43 pianohacker exactly, can't blame him 18:43 magnuse nope 18:44 magnuse kia ora talljoy! 18:44 talljoy ola magnuse! 18:44 talljoy i hear you are interested in bibframe. true? 18:44 talljoy or 'linked data' using SPARQL 18:44 magnuse and here i was, going to ask if there are any other blockers than bug 14440 before putting 3.20.1 in production 18:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14440 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , get_template_and_user can not have an empty template_name 18:45 magnuse talljoy: yeah, i am interested in the latter. i fear bibframe is bit premature, and likely to put libraries in a "special corner", once again 18:45 talljoy could be. librarians are their own worst enemies sometimes 18:46 magnuse "we have unique and special needs" 18:46 magnuse so true! 18:46 talljoy are you doing anything with SPARQL anything you are doing? 18:46 magnuse well, not much 18:47 magnuse i did make a tiny prototype of enhancing the koha opac with sparql queries a year or two back 18:47 magnuse deichman/oslo public library are doing some awesome stuff, though 18:47 talljoy that would be interesting to see. i may ask you about that in some time. 18:48 talljoy I need to some research on this. I've just started scratching the surface. 18:48 magnuse they are going to have rdf as the master data format and then dumb it down to marc so things like koha will have something to chew on 18:48 talljoy I've attended a conference about it, and I was fascinated by it. 18:48 magnuse let me find you a couple links 18:48 talljoy great! 18:49 magnuse talljoy: http://digital.deichman.no/blog/2014/06/19/oslo-public-library-chooses-rdf-linked-data-as-core-metadata-format/ + http://digital.deichman.no/blog/2014/07/06/rdf-linked-data-cataloguing-at-oslo-public-library/ + http://digital.deichman.no/blog/2015/01/12/working-with-koha-at-oslo-public-library/ 18:49 * talljoy hopes there is an english interface. my norwegian is ..non existent. 18:50 talljoy thanks magnuse!! 18:50 magnuse i know they are right in the middle of figuring out all the thorny issues now, so they might have something to show in the fall 18:50 magnuse also, libris in sweden are grappling with these issues too 18:50 talljoy that timing would be good for me. I should have time to dedicate to this in October. 18:50 talljoy ah...sweden. those are my people. 18:50 reiveune bye 18:51 magnuse talljoy: sounds perfect 18:51 talljoy :-D 18:51 talljoy i feel a road trip coming on! Sweden in October isn't too cold is it? 18:51 talljoy lol 18:51 magnuse talljoy: they have some projects here: https://github.com/libris/ not shure if the blog anywhere 18:52 magnuse talljoy: well, it is a very unpredictable time of year, i think 18:52 magnuse but probbly not too cld 18:52 talljoy well to be honest anything under 20 C is too cold for me. 18:52 pianohacker texan ;) 18:52 talljoy so, safe to say whatever the temp, I will find it freezing! 18:52 talljoy not for much longer pianohacker 18:52 pianohacker well, true 18:52 talljoy i have one foot out into New Mexico. 18:53 talljoy living in the desert = heaven 18:53 magnuse hehe, you should come in july then, then there is a small chance of not freezing 18:53 magnuse @wunder boo 18:53 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:20 PM CEST on June 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 18:54 talljoy magnuse the kohacon2012 in scotland was the coldest "summer" i ever experienced. 18:54 talljoy and it was in June or July. it was so darn cold! 18:54 talljoy it was about 17-20 celsius. 18:54 talljoy i must be part reptilian. 18:54 talljoy need to sun to warm up. 18:55 talljoy okay, got a call to attend. later all 18:59 magnuse @later tell talljoy also, you might want to time a trip to europe so you can attend the SWIB conference http://swib.org/ (the website for this years event, but they are yearly somewhere in germany, around the end of november) 18:59 huginn` magnuse: The operation succeeded. 19:09 * magnuse goes ahead and upgrades customers to 3.20.1 19:58 * magnuse wanders off 21:10 wizzyrea hi' 21:10 * cait waves 21:37 wizzyrea talljoy_phone: you'd die in wellington. 21:39 ibeardslee s/die/be preserved in a frozen state/ 21:45 wizzyrea well if 20C is cold... 22:07 eythian hi 22:07 wahanui niihau, eythian 22:22 talljoy i totally would wizzyrea 22:22 talljoy which is why i'm glad i'm in the desert! 22:23 wizzyrea I am soooo glad to only see 30C once a year or so. 22:23 talljoy ibeardslee i will dessicate before freezing. 22:23 talljoy that's when i start to thaw out. and put away the sweaters. ;-) 22:23 wizzyrea (the sun is really intense though, so it often feels warmer than it actually is) 22:24 talljoy yes, true. here (in New Mexico currently) it can be hot as blazes, but in the shade, it feels so much cooler. 22:24 talljoy low humidity and all that 23:19 the43 Hi! 23:20 the43 how activate sendmail in koha? 23:49 eythian leap second in ~10 minutes, I hope you all have your civil defence kits ready for the fall of civilisation! 23:49 wizzyrea I have plasters, does that count? 23:50 eythian probably 23:50 wahanui probably is not, but i do not know another way 23:56 dcook hehe 23:57 dcook I actually have some work that does fall down to the second... I'm intrigued to see how that goes 23:57 dcook The only rations I have are... 23:57 dcook white chocolate with raspberry and balsamic 23:57 * dcook might be mowing his way through his rations pretty quickly atm