Time Nick Message 03:30 liz does anyone know about this error ERROR in koha-conf.xml -- missing <font type="Ft1">/path/to/font.ttf</font> 03:30 liz I see that my koha-conf doesn't have a font entry for Ft1 03:30 liz should I have one? 03:31 pianohacker liz: what triggers it? 03:33 liz exporting a label batch to PDF 03:33 liz something to do with bug 8375 I think, but geez I've got no idea. 03:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, RESOLVED FIXED, Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 03:34 liz also /path/to/font is literal 03:37 pianohacker liz: Digging around in the code doesn't produce much, though I'm completely unfamiliar with the code in question. does t/Creators.t pass? 03:38 liz hm dunno, but I'd guess so it's 3.20.1 03:38 liz can't build a release without it passing 03:42 liz thanks for having a think about it, idk what's going on there it's something weird-ish 03:43 pianohacker yeah, looks like you'd need some help from chris_n 03:43 pianohacker Cause this stuff is _weird_ 03:43 pianohacker good night and good luck 06:14 kivilahtio good moorning #koha 06:38 * magnuse waves 06:42 reiveune hello 07:00 marcelr hi #koha 07:05 alex_a bonjour 07:15 fridolin hie there 07:19 cait morning #koha 07:23 liz hi cait 07:23 cait hi liz 07:23 liz oh I should push stuff. 07:24 magnuse push all the stuff! 07:26 liz well I will push stuff when my / is not at 100% :P 07:26 liz full* 07:26 cait hm? 07:30 gaetan_B hello 07:30 wahanui hi, gaetan_B 07:34 cait the patch for the ratings seems problematic for 3.18 07:35 cait from 14440 08:14 liz oh? 08:14 liz how so 08:16 liz hm 08:39 drojf morning #koha 08:40 marcelr hi drojf 08:42 drojf hi marcelr 08:48 * cait waves 08:49 drojf hi cait 09:29 AmitG @bug 6810 09:29 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , Send membership expiry reminder notices 10:49 drojf can i get gibt bz to automatically apply a patch without asking me? --quiet does not seem to work 10:49 drojf git bz even 10:51 drojf looks like it works when i don't use the fishsoup branch 10:51 drojf with 'yes | git bz apply xxxx' (for the one person finding that in the log in 7 years from now) 10:58 cait :) 11:19 cait this new 'feedback on what was last checked out' thing has broken umlauts .... 11:23 cait bug 14465 11:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14465 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Broken umlauts/diacritics in feedback of last checkout 12:23 kivilahtio I wonder has anybody heard of the userid 'demo' and password 'demo' and C4::Context->config('demo') ? 12:23 kivilahtio cait: have you? 12:24 kivilahtio that feature is 10 years old 12:25 kivilahtio even more 12:26 cait khall++ 12:26 kivilahtio git blame cannot tell and I have just ran out of tools in my toolbox 12:26 cait i think it's an old feature 12:26 kivilahtio should we get rid of it? 12:26 kivilahtio why not just use admin 1234 as the superuser password instead? 12:27 AmitG @bug 6810? 12:27 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , Send membership expiry reminder notices 12:27 AmitG kyle around? 12:27 AmitG khall around? 12:29 marcelr khall ashimema: please check bug 14167 12:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl 12:35 AmitG @bug 14465 12:35 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14465 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , Broken umlauts/diacritics in feedback of last checkout 12:38 grharry I am on jessie and 3.20.01 and I get this from intranet opac when I search the catalogue "Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20/Encode.pm line 215" 12:38 grharry Anybody seen this ?? 12:39 grharry and my query is not done in latin 1 but in greek utf8 12:41 tcohen morning! 12:41 AmitG hi tcohen 12:42 tcohen hi AmitG cait 12:51 ntonylaq Hi everyone. Quick question about slowiness ;-) 12:52 ntonylaq We went from version 3.12.X --> 3.18.X last week. Opac result are now up to 125% slower then before. 12:53 ntonylaq We have a monitoring system that "ping" koha each 10 minutes and we went from 7.5 seconds to more than 20 secondes. 12:53 ntonylaq We did not change anything special in the config ( we think...) 12:53 ntonylaq What is causing this ? 12:53 ntonylaq How to go back to a normal delay ? 12:54 tcohen is it sendnig an ICMP package to the server? or you just try to render some page? 12:55 ntonylaq Well it's doing a "wget". 12:55 ntonylaq But we see the slow opac when we do it manually 12:56 ntonylaq My automated script ( using zabbix) go on the opac and do 5 actions ( 1 just to get the welcome page and 4 search). 12:57 ntonylaq The performance is terrible and client complain ( and I understand them...) 12:57 AmitG @bug 14465 12:57 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14465 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Broken umlauts/diacritics in feedback of last checkout 12:59 tcohen ntonylaq: is it a new clean install? 13:00 tcohen you should disable zebra facets in koha-conf.xml 13:00 ntonylaq yes 13:00 ntonylaq how to disable it ? 13:01 ntonylaq <use_zebra_facets>1</use_zebra_facets> 13:02 ntonylaq tcohen: Do we need to restart or just reload apache ? Do we need to restart zebra ? 13:02 tcohen neither 13:02 tcohen you could restart memcached 13:03 tcohen just in case the file is cached 13:03 tcohen otherwise it will take some time to pick the new one 13:04 ntonylaq looks good! 13:05 grharry Hi ... there seems to be a bug in intranet search.pl of version 3.20.01 13:05 ntonylaq tcohen: I dont have memcache install 13:06 cait khall++ again for the quick fix - updates are rollign now :) 13:06 ntonylaq it that something that would help ? 13:06 tcohen did my suggestion help already? 13:06 ntonylaq Yep , I gain about 5 sec! 13:07 ntonylaq Im not quit where we were before but it's already better 13:07 tcohen ntonylaq: koha always get better 13:07 ntonylaq I still need to gain about 2-3 secs ;-) 13:08 kivilahtio ntonylaq: there is s system preference to control from how large group you want to generate facets from 13:08 kivilahtio ntonylaq: so if you want to have some accuracy of facets nad minimal delay from them 13:08 kivilahtio ntonylaq: search system preferences with "facet" 13:16 chris_n @later tell liz see my response to bug 14463 13:16 huginn` chris_n: The operation succeeded. 13:29 kivilahtio Are we trying to deprecate MD5 in Koha passwords with Bcrypt? 13:30 kivilahtio tcohen: ? 13:30 kivilahtio tcohen: Are we trying to deprecate MD5 in Koha passwords with Bcrypt? 13:30 tcohen hi kivilahtio 13:30 kivilahtio hi there 13:30 tcohen hi, about? 13:30 kivilahtio tcohen: I am making progress with the Authentication rewrite :) 13:30 kivilahtio the link I posted yeasterday for which you gave me ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ 13:31 * tcohen is upgrading to 3.20 his 49 instances 13:31 tcohen kivilahtio: I'm glad to hear that 13:31 kivilahtio I am refactoring the existing C4::Auth to use the reusable components 13:31 kivilahtio I don't understand the sepcifics of LDAP CAS and Shibboleth authentication so I might not touch them for now, so I am trying to leave everything functioning 100% as it was 13:32 kivilahtio so I don't break unit tests for ez 13:32 kivilahtio Then define the basic authentication methods in the new Koha::Auth 13:32 kivilahtio and then hopefully get working with the Swagger2 authentication 13:32 kivilahtio :) 13:32 kivilahtio some day 13:32 kivilahtio but should I tag MD5 as deprecated 13:32 tcohen you need to rely on colin and ashimema regarding authentication 13:32 kivilahtio this is my question 13:33 ashimema assume MD5 is deprecated ;) 13:33 kivilahtio since in Koha::AuthUtils there is only Bcrypt with salt 13:33 ashimema it's insecure.. 13:33 kivilahtio ashimema: I am no cryptography expert by MD5_64 sounds awfully low 13:33 kivilahtio thus I am asking :) 13:33 ashimema it's only there for backwards compatibility as far as I know.. 13:33 Dyrcona kivilahtio++ 13:34 kivilahtio Dyrcona: you can find the spec here https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/15w-P9rF_2lJIXX_vda-tPDzpB2ZMt02coMJofKjJcfo/edit 13:34 kivilahtio ashimema: Ok I'll tag it as @DEPRECATED 13:34 ashimema not sure if there was ever a way to update md5 passwords to bcrypt ones though.. so it may be needed still for clients that haven't updated their passwords in ages ;) 13:34 drojf is koha-stop-zebra broken? it tells me zebra is already stopped, which isn't true 13:34 ashimema I certainly wouldn't voluntarily store passwords using it anymore 13:35 Dyrcona kivilahtio: I was looking at it. 13:35 Dyrcona Evergreen is looking at an authentication overhaul, too. 13:35 kivilahtio ashimema: tcohen: Dyrcona: you should follow Bug 7174 - Authentication rewriting if you are interested. I will post my modifications today regardless if they work 100% 13:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7174 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authentication rewriting 13:35 Dyrcona kivilahtio++ # For his Evergreen debugged document, too. ;) 13:36 kivilahtio Dyrcona: I cant remember anymore 13:36 * magnuse calls it a (bad) week and wanders off 13:36 kivilahtio Dyrcona: I remember totally crumbling trying to get the debugger running in EG. 13:36 kivilahtio Dyrcona: but nowadays I guess I could dominate Eg, since I have learned to debug all forked/multithreaded apps in Perl 13:36 Dyrcona kivilahtio: I have found it very useful, although something has changed in Perl, OpenSRF, or Ubuntu 14.04 and it doesn't quite work. 13:37 kivilahtio Dyrcona: no surprise :) 13:37 kivilahtio Dyrcona: how is EG nowadays? 13:37 kivilahtio Dyrcona: you can try running the perl debugger in xterm-windows 13:37 tcohen magnuse: isn't friday pizza day 13:37 tcohen ? 13:37 kivilahtio but that sucks badly, if you cannot get the session to a proper IDE 13:37 tcohen how can that be bad? 13:37 Dyrcona kivilahtio: I plan to play with debugging some more once we've completed the move of our offices. 13:38 Dyrcona kivilahtio: I was using Debug::Fork::Tmux, but I'm going to try with xterm next time. 13:38 Dyrcona kivilahtio: The perl debugger isn't that bad. It's similar to GDB. 13:39 kivilahtio Dyrcona: the point is not that it is bad, but it is extremely hard to use and really poorly documented. For ex compared to Java debuggin on Tomcat 13:39 kivilahtio JAva even has code hot-swap which is freaking cool (when it works : ) 13:39 Dyrcona kivilahtio: Yes, and apparently some of the commands changed between relatively recent Perl versions. 13:40 kivilahtio Dyrcona: unfortunately I don't know anything about that :( 13:49 cait isn't the problem with bcrypt that old passwords might still be stored as it? 13:49 cait because we didn't enforce users to change their passowrds 13:52 kivilahtio cait: I am talking about tagging it deprecated, not removing it 13:53 cait right :) 14:00 chris_n funny, mbalmer has shown back up on #koha over on freenode 14:04 kivilahtio chris_n: could you be a bit more verbose? isn't it nice to have backups? 14:09 chris_n verbosity? 14:10 chris_n verbosity is a profusion of words which may or may not mean anything in particular 14:11 * chris_n looks around for the bot 14:11 chris_n wahanui: verbosity is a profusion of words which may or may not mean anything in particular 14:11 wahanui i already had it that way, chris_n. 14:12 chris_n kivilahtio: search the logs for that nick sometime ;-) 14:12 kivilahtio ok 14:12 kivilahtio sounds like an adventure 14:12 chris_n very much so 14:12 chris_n and backups are fantastic... most of the time 14:13 kivilahtio unless it is back up ;) 14:13 kivilahtio in this context 14:13 kivilahtio backups are back up 14:13 chris_n lol 14:21 liw mmm, backups 14:34 drojf @seen mbalmer 14:34 huginn` drojf: mbalmer was last seen in #koha 2 years, 38 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, 22 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <mbalmer> I see it a bit different, obviously. 14:44 chris_n indeed, he did 15:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 15:02 mtompset @later tell khall SWEET! Thanks. 15:02 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded. 15:08 reiveune bye 15:10 fridolin by 15:26 mtompset Bye, cait. 15:27 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker. 15:27 AmitG hi mtompset 15:27 mtompset Greetings. 15:27 wahanui and beatings! 15:27 mtompset wahanui: forget greetings 15:27 wahanui mtompset: I forgot greetings 15:27 mtompset Greetings. 15:30 pianohacker hi mtompset 15:30 AmitG hi pianohacker 15:30 pianohacker hi AmitG 15:31 mtompset I feel so unloved, pianohacker. ;) 15:32 pianohacker but why? 15:33 pianohacker wahanui greeted you so enthusiastically! 15:33 wahanui pianohacker: huh? 15:34 tcohen #koha: anyone with experience in setting HEAD? 15:34 tcohen HEA? 15:34 wahanui i heard HEA was coming (see hea.koha-community.org) 15:35 mtompset pianohacker: Ha ha. :P 15:36 mtompset Sorry, tcohen. Not I. 15:36 pianohacker tcohen: the server or client side? 15:36 pianohacker I think the client side is just a syspref and a cronjob, no? 15:36 tcohen client, I plan to set all my instances 15:37 tcohen (upgrading 3.12 > 3.20 right now) 15:37 pianohacker *blink* wow. Good luck. 15:37 tcohen it works :-D 15:49 kivilahtio tcohen: good luck. This is a big leap for your libraries! 15:50 kivilahtio have a great weekend. Thank you for letting me refactor the auth system 15:50 kivilahtio it is pretty awesome work! 15:50 kivilahtio early submits already here Bug 7174 15:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7174 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authentication rewriting 15:52 pianohacker kivilahtio: pfft. Not sure your commits will be pushed with that precise message, but good on you for diving into the muck :) 16:12 m1234 hello. Recently I upgraded from 3.14 to 3.16 and everything seems to have worked nicely. Yesterday I did an OS upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy. Now, I get an error: Auth ERROR: Cannot get_session() at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 781. 16:12 m1234 any suggestions of what this means? 16:18 mtompset Was your apache upgraded to 2.4? 16:19 m1234 i don't think so 16:19 m1234 i honestly do not know 16:20 m1234 am i supposed to have apache on 2.4 or would that be a problem? 16:21 Dyrcona I *think* wheezy still has 2.2 as the Apache version. 16:21 Dyrcona Yep: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/apache2 16:23 mtompset Is this a production system or a git install? 16:24 m1234 git install 16:24 mtompset And you are talking about a git install with 3.16? 16:25 mtompset 3.16.x? 16:25 m1234 yes 16:25 m1234 to update to 3.16 i did the following: git checkout -b 3.16.x-clean --track origin/3.16.x 16:26 m1234 i ran the dependencies 16:26 m1234 and all seemed ok 16:26 mtompset how did you check: ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u? 16:27 m1234 sudo dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/debian.packages 16:27 m1234 perl koha_perl_deps.pl 16:27 * mtompset cringes. 16:27 m1234 perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u 16:28 mtompset Though, given that you only jumped to 3.16.x, I guess you have to do it that way. 16:29 mtompset because if you have 3.18.x or 3.20.x, you could sudo apt-get install koha_perldeps koha_deps with the appropriate repo (stable or oldstable) 16:29 m1234 ah 16:30 Dyrcona Wouldn't you want to reinstall after upgrading the O/S? 16:30 Dyrcona Or do the steps again, at least? 16:30 m1234 reinstall 3.16? 16:30 Dyrcona Well, the deps maybe. 16:31 Dyrcona I don't actually run koha, but it would seem to me dependencies could be out of date if you updated the O/S without updating Koha again. 16:31 mtompset Dyrcona: I'd rather install a new VM with the correct OS, and reinstall freshly, then drop DB, import old DB, and go to staff client... stop zebra, full reindex, and start zebra. 16:31 Dyrcona I usually do that with everything I install from git. 16:31 Dyrcona mtompset: Well, yeah, that would be ideal. 16:33 mtompset If I upgraded my OS in place, I would jump to stable or old stable, not 3.16.x 16:35 mtompset BTW, I would look into a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, just to make sure everything is up to date. 16:35 mtompset sudo apt-get install pmtools 16:35 mtompset pmvers CGI::Session 16:36 m1234 maybe i should first upgrade to Wheezy and only after jump to 3.16 16:37 m1234 right now my boss asked me to upgrade only to 3.16 16:39 mtompset m1234: Why only Wheezy? 16:40 m1234 What OS should I use? 16:40 mtompset Why not Jessie? Debian 8 is already out 16:41 m1234 I think only Koha 3.20 goes with Jessie? 16:41 m1234 am i wrong? 16:41 mtompset Older versions can. 16:41 mtompset But if you wish to upgrade to 3.20, you'll need to upgrade your OS again. 16:41 mtompset OS upgrades are a pain. 16:42 m1234 i noticed that 16:42 m1234 i'm feeling the pain 16:42 m1234 i'm supposed to upgrade to only 3.16 16:42 mtompset You can run 3.16 on Jessie. 16:43 mtompset It's not like the packages for Wheezy suddenly went away. 16:44 m1234 well, thank goodness for snapshots. I can revert and start over 16:44 m1234 sticking for now with 3.16 and Wheezy, what would be your suggestion? 16:45 m1234 upgrade the OS and rerun the dependencies 16:46 mtompset OS upgrade first.... get 3.14 working properly. 16:46 mtompset THEN koha upgrade to 3.16.x 16:46 m1234 sounds like a good plan 16:46 mtompset Though, I would inform your boss that 3.20 is out. 16:46 m1234 hahaha 16:46 m1234 she knows 16:46 mtompset and that upgrading to 3.18.x is easier. 16:47 m1234 i might go to 3.18 16:47 m1234 if that's much easier 16:47 mtompset sudo apt-get install koha_perldeps from oldstable. 16:47 mtompset of course it is easier! 16:48 m1234 :-) 16:48 mtompset sudo apt-get install koha_deps from oldstable (too) 16:48 mtompset and then upgrading on a forward basis becomes easier. 16:48 mtompset boss, 3.22 just came up... want to upgrade to 3.20.x? 16:49 m1234 all in good time 16:49 Dyrcona Lots of places stay a couple revisions behind on their ILS. 16:50 mtompset Yes, but why 2 years? 16:51 mtompset upgrading to oldstable and staying there seems perfectly reasonable to me. 16:52 m1234 mtompset and Dyrcona, thank you so much for the help! 16:52 mtompset You're welcome. Hopefully I helped some. :) 16:52 Dyrcona mtompset: I don't know really. I install Evergreen from the master git branch in production. ;) 16:53 * mtompset screams, "Early adopter! Early adopter!" 16:53 Dyrcona :) 16:53 Dyrcona Usually around release time, so we get alpha or beta of the new release. 16:54 Dyrcona Then we update with bug patches, etc. as needed. 16:54 Dyrcona We're going to wait for the 2.9 release for our next upgrade. 16:54 * Dyrcona is 2.9 release manager. 16:57 mtompset https://youtu.be/lDK9QqIzhwk?t=1m33s 16:57 Dyrcona Heh. 16:57 mtompset (Bon Jovi -- Living on a Prayer) -- all that bleeding edge. 17:21 gaetan_B bye 17:55 AmitG @bug 6810 17:55 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Needs Signoff , Send membership expiry reminder notices 17:55 AmitG @bug 14382 17:55 huginn` AmitG: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14382 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , datepicker's dateFormat setting for reports is missing 17:55 mtompset AmitG: Don't flood the channel. 17:58 AmitG Good night all! 17:58 mtompset Bye, AmitG. 18:15 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11882: (QA followup) fix capitalization errors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=936d452ffaedb1405d15b503ef2454decb91d77f> / Bug 11882: Add a new button to the checkout confirmation dialog when checking out... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e04ea7282d730bfe3f617d0c296a63ede53c547> 18:25 drojf how/where would i find the response of an sru server to the request from the koha server? the url that is actually used for the query would be good too 18:27 pianohacker drojf: tcpdump might honestly be your easiest option 21:20 pianohacker @seen dcook 21:20 huginn` pianohacker: dcook was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, and 5 seconds ago: <dcook> Later folk 21:42 drojf pianohacker: in the end just trying with yaz-client got me somewhere. the server has a strange configuration, i doubt it is intended like this 22:14 drojf sru is fun