Time Nick Message 23:15 huginn` bag: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. 23:14 bag @more 23:14 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 31.3°C (4:14 PM PDT on June 25, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect from noon Friday to 5 am PDT Sunday... 23:14 bag @weather 97215 23:09 wnickc have a good night all 21:00 * wizzyrea_ is just glad she didn't stuff it up 21:00 wizzyrea_ :) we've done heaps of 3.16's, so thank you too :) 20:57 mtj thanks for the release :p 20:56 mtj we upgraded to 3.18.8 last nite, wiz :0) 20:56 mtj hey #koha 20:43 wizzyrea_ jeff++ 20:42 jeff_ WRITE "Good %GREETING_TIME, %FIRST_NAME" 20:39 Dyrcona heh 20:38 wizzyrea_ <time-of-day> 20:37 wahanui afternoon is good 20:37 Dyrcona afternoon. 20:37 rangi morning 20:37 * cait waves 20:23 wizzyrea_ :) 20:22 pianohacker I'm tempted to taunt you with our bright burning sun, but our winter was crappy enough that I'll hold off... 20:17 * wizzyrea_ hates on winter some more 19:05 drojf ashimema: are the ptfs europe sandboxes mentioned here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes supposed to be up? not working for me 18:58 cait :) 18:47 drojf building a koha package on the cheapo vps takes ~7 minutes. nice. 18:35 AmitG thanks galen 18:24 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "AmitG: and here's another way to do it" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/156 18:14 gmcharlt AmitG: hmm? 18:13 AmitG galen around? 18:13 AmitG hi 17:59 tcohen bye #koha 17:55 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14002: Display readonly values as plain text <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f194bca26891a338761f5a4041b0886f87631e27> / Bug 14002: Show patron expiry date in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69baa022a587ffd9df2bc065a0e8e72c14cf7c4f> / Bug 14440: get_template_and_user can not have an empty template_name (quote*_ajax.pl) <http://git.koha-community.org 17:52 tcohen we cannot blame systemd 17:51 tcohen damn 17:51 tcohen heh 17:50 drojf well, nevermind :) 17:50 drojf lol 17:50 drojf and it was easily available :D 17:49 drojf oh. haha. the host needed bash-completion, not the pbuilder environment :D 17:49 tcohen good you found your answer :-D 17:47 aschorr Thank you tcohen! I looked at sys prefs for item_level_itypes. Looks like it doesn't really matter if item is the authoritative item type. 17:34 drojf heh 17:33 tcohen :-P 17:32 tcohen not that i'm suprised something trivial and working got broken by systemd integration 17:32 tcohen bash-completion vs. systemd 17:31 drojf or did you mean my slow upload? :P 17:30 drojf me neither, i have been building koha packages for a while now 17:30 tcohen never heard of that kind of problems 17:30 drojf i forgot how slow my upload is at home. guess i will do some shopping now instead of staring at the upload for another 15 minutes 17:29 drojf i do. and the purpose of the machine is to automatically build koha packages from master + patches, so it would be nice if it actually worked with the code as is :) 17:26 tcohen do u use the koha-* scripts at all? 17:23 drojf i will try to copy the old base.tgz to the new machine and not care about all of this :P 17:21 tcohen ;-) 17:21 tcohen koha-common ships tab-completion for the koha-* scripts if you have bash-completion installed 17:21 drojf but i suppose it has some reason? :) 17:20 drojf tcohen: i don't know why it is there actually 17:20 drojf there is pbuilder wheezy but no systemd on the old machine. can't get it on the new one. hm 17:20 tcohen but you don't need it to build koha-common, right? it is an optional install dependency 17:19 drojf tcohen: when i try to build a package, bash-completion is a dependency. but it seems to be not compatible to systemd and some other packages. when i try to install bash-completion manually, i geht huge warnings about it 17:18 drojf hm no it is wheezy inside pbuilder on the other machine too 17:18 tcohen how is systemd related to bash? 17:17 drojf yes. squeeze is rather old now ;) 17:17 pianohacker drojf: that's going to be problematic now that Jessie is out :/ 17:16 drojf so systemd in pbuilder breaks building koha packages? or am i missing something? looks like it is not compatible to bash-completion and explodes when i try to build a package. pbuilder gave me sid by default but wheezy does not work either. looks like it is squeeze on the other machine so i will try that 17:15 tcohen the description clearly stateswhat are the consecquences fo using either 17:15 tcohen take a look at the item-level_itypes syspref 17:15 tcohen aschorr: it depends on what you want to do 17:05 aschorr Yes, that's my question. If you have different item-level item types are you supposed to have matching bib-level item types? 17:04 pianohacker aschorr: no, the 942$c is the bib-level item type 17:04 tcohen nope 17:02 aschorr Right, so does that mean you can have multiple 942$c fields too? 17:01 aschorr Yes, I've most recently worked with 3.18 17:01 tcohen people usually do item-level itype, so a bib record can have items with different itypes each 17:00 tcohen aschorr: have you seen this, right? http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/master/en/html-desktop/ 17:00 aschorr If you have multiple item types, do you only have a single bib item type or can you only have multiple? 16:59 tcohen shoot 16:59 aschorr okay. i'm new to koha and I just had a basic question about the bib itype... 16:55 tcohen it would depend on other people's time/willingnes 16:55 tcohen you won't always get an answer you're looking for 16:54 tcohen aschorr: this is a public chat, you can ask whatever you want 16:54 gaetan_B bye 16:46 aschorr What kind of questions are asked in this forum? 16:20 pianohacker take it easy good sir 16:19 ashimema i need to shoot off now but have a feeling I'll be working through the night on this one later.. 16:19 ashimema perhaps 16:18 pianohacker hm... I'm wondering if check_api_auth does something different with the CGI object 16:18 ashimema but POSTDATA is always empty 16:18 ashimema body contains the xml and only the xml 16:18 ashimema UTF-8 16:18 ashimema text/xml 16:18 pianohacker correct content-type? 16:18 ashimema yup 16:18 pianohacker ashimema: are you sure that it's being sent from the client correctly? 16:17 ashimema which is rather sucky 16:17 ashimema think I'm going to resort to reading it in from STDIN 16:17 wahanui undefined is just another object 16:17 ashimema still undefined.. 16:17 ashimema nope.. 16:14 pianohacker mm-hmm... 16:11 ashimema in mojo this would have been soooo easy ;) 16:11 ashimema what a mess.. I hate CGI.. 16:11 ashimema that seesm to be about it.. 16:11 ashimema then it may or may not appears in param('POSTDATA') if your lucky.. 16:11 ashimema so you have to qw utf8, set the binmode and the encoding 16:10 ashimema cheers pianohacker 16:04 tcohen khall_sickday: how are you feeling? 16:04 tcohen i was going to ask khall_sickday for a bug to be passed qa, but noticed he's sick 16:02 jeff_ i think the XForms:Model approach is needed if your incoming POST doesn't have an XML content-type. 16:01 jeff_ my $xml = $cgi->param('POSTDATA');# || $cgi->param('XForms:Model'); 16:01 jeff_ looks like at one time i needed to fall back to XForms:Model, if this messy comment is to be trusted: 16:00 jeff_ my $xml = $cgi->param('POSTDATA'); 16:00 jeff_ my $cgi = CGI->new(); 16:00 jeff_ i remember running into challenges when doing that at times, but this seems to be working for me at present: 16:00 pianohacker ashimema: take a look at svc/bib 15:57 ashimema I can't get this damn thing to work.. CGI just butchers the post body :( 15:56 ashimema anyone here know how to read POSTDATA (text/xml) where the xml is the whole of the body in using CGI? 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio++ 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio++ 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio++ 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio++ 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio++ 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio++ 15:32 kivilahtio ashimema: tcohen: I will prolly start working on my RFC tomorrow in the Koha::Authentication -namespace. If you find some issues why not, then please send me a @later-message :) 15:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7174 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Authentication rewriting 15:29 kivilahtio ashimema: Bug 7174 15:19 kivilahtio my candle is burning 15:19 kivilahtio if you are not I am going home 15:19 kivilahtio ashimema: are you still here? 15:17 kivilahtio now they have project spartan or edge or whatwasit 15:17 drojf kivilahtio: doesn't matter. it will be around forever :P 15:16 kivilahtio drojf: we already killed ie 15:16 reiveune bye 15:16 kivilahtio tcohen: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/15w-P9rF_2lJIXX_vda-tPDzpB2ZMt02coMJofKjJcfo/edit?usp=sharing 15:16 kivilahtio ashimema: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/15w-P9rF_2lJIXX_vda-tPDzpB2ZMt02coMJofKjJcfo/edit?usp=sharing 15:04 drojf tcohen++ 15:04 drojf joubu++ 15:04 drojf cait++ 15:03 drojf :D 15:03 tcohen ie-- 15:03 drojf ie-- 15:03 tcohen Joubu++ 15:03 tcohen cait++ 15:03 huginn` indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (241), "Joubu" (200), and "tcohen" (189). Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "<-" (-13). You (indradg) are ranked 26 out of 436. 15:03 indradg @karma 14:56 tcohen ashimema: morning 14:56 kivilahtio I have a solution to that 14:53 drojf i was goint to say "aren't there 5345 frameworks we could add for that?" :P 14:49 ashimema Mojo::Plugin::Authentication and Mojo::Plugin::Authorization are ineresting idea's though ;) 14:49 ashimema not one that i've worked out yet anyways ;) 14:49 ashimema so there's no really clear flow you can adopt that will work for all cases.. 14:48 ashimema the problem I've had with all of my architectures is that auth can happen in varying orders depending upon the mechanism.. 14:47 ashimema but it's a big job 14:47 ashimema Auth is a right mess.. it's been on my pile to clean it up for about 7 months now.. 14:47 ashimema just happened to be looking at the window when you made it.. 14:46 kivilahtio you replied in a nanoseond? 14:46 kivilahtio ashimema: how did you pick up my comment so quickly? 14:45 kivilahtio I'll be bach 14:45 ashimema so would be interestd to get your unbiased RFC ;) 14:44 kivilahtio I kne you had expertise to evaluate it 14:44 ashimema I'm still working out the best model ;) 14:44 kivilahtio great 14:44 ashimema I've written a couple of auth systems now.. 14:44 kivilahtio gimme one hour? or do you have adaughter to pick up ? ;) 14:44 kivilahtio we can talk about it soon 14:44 kivilahtio ashimema: I have a diagram on how it should work. I have been mapping that mess for few hours now 14:44 ashimema I've not started anything yet beyond a perltidy ;) 14:43 ashimema but and RFC would be greately apreciated 14:43 kivilahtio ashimema: hmm 14:43 ashimema and tere's a bug open 14:43 kivilahtio ashimema: I will post my RFC in an hour 14:43 ashimema I've been wanting to have that whole section of code reworked for ages 14:43 kivilahtio yes? 14:43 wahanui rumour has it kivilahtio is working to integrate our SMS provider to Koha 14:43 ashimema kivilahtio 14:43 kivilahtio but it might be too difficult to do, considering how deeply entwined the whole thing is 14:42 kivilahtio I am wraping up a proposal to refactor it 14:42 kivilahtio the authentication system at C4::Auth is such a mess 13:44 drojf magnuse: but don't eat after midnight! 13:32 * magnuse wanders off 13:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add filters and server-side processing to the shelves list view 13:30 drojf maybe it's translations not keeping up with bug 13419? 13:24 drojf not sure if that is something gitify related with translations 13:23 drojf tcohen: actually the translated lists page looks different for me. different table/ table layout and there is no processing at all 13:07 tcohen http://snag.gy/SBrea.jpg 13:06 magnuse lulz 13:06 tcohen opac works, only intranet 13:06 drojf rofl 13:06 wahanui First of all, keep magnuse out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight. 13:06 magnuse gremlins! 13:05 magnuse tcohen: opac, intranet ot both? 13:04 tcohen but why it works on the english templateS? 13:01 cait i had this happen with the item search 13:01 cait it might also somethign it thinks is invalid data 12:59 drojf lists works for me 12:58 drojf does it work in the english version? its probably an unfinished translation 12:58 tcohen works in english 12:58 tcohen it keeps showing the "Processing" message 12:57 tcohen i have issues with the lists 12:57 drojf (master) 12:57 drojf yes. but i have to update translation, as adding items is broken right now ;) 12:56 tcohen anyone with a translated 3.20/master? 12:51 * magnuse waves 12:47 tcohen hi andreashm marcelr 12:47 marcelr hi tcohen 12:44 andreashm hey tcohen 12:43 tcohen morning 12:42 andreashm (most likely) 12:40 andreashm because otherwise this is something we will have to build/sponsor 12:39 andreashm I'll have to send out an e-mail then 12:37 cait i encouraged the person to ask on the list too - i think there was no email yet 12:37 cait this is what i know too 12:36 andreashm thanks gaetan! 12:36 gaetan_B but better wait for an answer from a sip specialist 12:36 gaetan_B i think it's true, i remember reading about something like this somewhere 12:36 gaetan_B hi andreashm :) 12:35 andreashm oh, and hey gaeten_b! 12:35 andreashm I saw in the log from yesterday a question about paying fines via SIP. Is it correct that paying individual fines in Koha through SIP is not supported today, but only the full sum of all fines of a patron? 12:34 gaetan_B is there a way to make the 008 plugin aware of the resource type according to what's in the leader ? 12:34 drojf if it's not available as a package anxymore, i don't care :P 12:34 gaetan_B i have a marc21 question 12:34 * andreashm waves 12:33 cait might be in ealrier ones too, but i lost patience 12:33 cait i did 3.20 and 3.18 12:33 drojf cait: so it's fixed or should i have a look later? sorry too many things at once 12:32 cait in aqorders 12:32 cait and...why? 12:32 cait when did we stop using sort1_authcat and sort2_authcat? 12:32 * cait sighs 12:32 huginn` indradg: TallJoy was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 22 hours, 55 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <talljoy> hiya magnuse 12:32 indradg @seen TallJoy 12:29 cait ah :) 12:29 indradg diff bug 12:29 indradg cait: mea culpa! I was on a conf call, Mark msged on FB... /me lost my head :P 12:27 cait not seeing his comment 12:25 indradg well, he pointed to a line of redundant code 12:24 wahanui well, mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 12:24 cait hm mtompset? 12:23 indradg cait: bug 14440, saw your and mtompset's comments. If no one does anything over the weekend, I'll look in and fix by Monday evening 12:22 cait i amh ere 12:21 huginn` indradg: cait was last seen in #koha 1 minute and 18 seconds ago: <cait> drojf: i found the 3.20 one.. now looking in 3.18 12:21 indradg @seen cait 12:20 cait drojf: i found the 3.20 one.. now looking in 3.18 12:16 fridolin but it should not be hard to rebase 12:16 cait drojf: are you fixing it? 12:15 fridolin sorry I cant test right now 12:15 fridolin on opac-ratings.pl, I've also removed unnecery dependances 12:15 cait would be good if someone else tried 12:14 cait i thik the first was fine, the second was not 12:14 fridolin cait: all of them ? 12:11 cait they dn't apply for me 12:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14440 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Passed QA , get_template_and_user can not have an empty template_name 12:11 drojf if yxou remind me i'll try it later 12:11 cait hm i think we need another version of the patches on bug 14440 for 3.18 12:11 drojf sorry very deep in the ncip patch again right now 12:10 drojf or it worked for me by accident ^^ 12:10 cait you fix it? :) 12:10 cait hm 12:10 drojf i'm sure i did 12:10 cait you can't do both at the same time i think 12:10 drojf or did you get 5000 results by that? 12:09 drojf but searching for tu in original and do in translation maybe? 12:08 drojf ah the second thursday should be tuesday, now i got it 12:08 cait need to fix the do = tuesdays :) 12:08 cait do for thursday is right 12:08 cait tuesday :) 12:08 drojf shouldn't it be th or thu? 12:07 cait ... and i have 4991 results... 12:07 cait it's just "Tu" 12:07 cait ... my problem is finding the string in pootle now 12:07 cait true 12:07 drojf cait: oh. i'd prefer two sundays! 12:06 marcelr yeah we are at the crossing point of pushing and fixing or refactoring 12:06 cait 'half-working' things :) 12:06 cait i think the feature idea is great - but we need to take care not to introduce h 12:06 cait i know, but that should probably be easy to fix 12:06 marcelr cait: the translation issues are not even my biggest concern ;) 12:05 cait thursdays 12:05 cait drojf: in 3.18 the german calendar has 2 Do 12:04 cait I'd really like to see some of the things addressed you pointed out - like the translation issues 11:31 marcelr i am talking with tcohen about it 11:31 drojf ok, thanks 11:31 marcelr yes i would leave them a little 11:30 drojf if chances are high they will, i would test them at a later point, maybe when 6784 is pushed 11:30 wahanui probably is not, but i do not know another way 11:30 marcelr probably 11:30 drojf the when is not my concern, just that your patches won't change completely :) 11:30 marcelr i guess there will be quite some changes needed; some could be built on top of 14295/6 11:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) 11:29 drojf i understand they depend on the general feature new in bug 6874, which is not pushed yet and you added a list of concerns (not deal breakers), so there may be changes to 6874 11:29 marcelr they are built on top of it; but i am not sure about 6874 getting pushed right now 11:28 marcelr hi drojf: what do you exactly mean? 11:28 drojf marcelr: the patches on bugs 14295 and 14296 should be quite safe to some qa changes to 6874, right? 11:17 marcelr thx drojf++ 10:18 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on June 25, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 10:18 cait @wunder Konstanz 10:16 cait huh? 10:02 drojf oh that 01e coded field error thing in the marc frameworks is actually supposed to be there? i always thought that was a misspelled 019 :D 09:07 kivilahtio ok 09:07 jajm kivilahtio, the 4th patch on 13799 concerns swaggerui, which has its own bug now, so i will obsolete it, don't reattach it :) 09:05 fridolin special thanks to Joubu :) 09:05 fridolin cait: cool 09:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14440 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , get_template_and_user can not have an empty template_name 09:04 cait bug 14440 has passed qa 09:04 jajm i will retry from the beginning, picking the patches in the order you sent me, on top of current master, and see what happens 09:01 kivilahtio I just pick your changes to swagger ui 09:01 kivilahtio jajm: but you have the same patches I have. I can take a look at updating them later today 09:00 kivilahtio jajm: I understand, there is a distrubance in the force 09:00 jajm and nobody will test patches if they have to do that 08:59 jajm kivilahtio, this is not "normal", patches should apply without using --reject 08:57 kivilahtio and be done with it 08:57 kivilahtio I just git apply --reject 08:57 kivilahtio I have the same issues all the time 08:57 kivilahtio that's all I got :) 08:57 jajm no it's something else 08:57 kivilahtio jajm: well that was the missing patch, but it shouldnt affect anything? 08:56 kivilahtio jajm: noo i think it borke something, but that was missing in the bugzilla 08:55 kivilahtio now it is in the bugzilla 08:55 kivilahtio was missing 08:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add base for building RESTful API 08:55 kivilahtio jajm: Bug 13799 - 4. Add base for building RESTful API - Fix missing character encoding in the index.html 08:54 jajm kivilahtio, thanks for the pm 08:53 kivilahtio jajm: I will add the CGISESSID authentication today, I just need to sort the SIP out first 08:53 jajm kivilahtio, there is 1,2,3 in 13799 and 7,8,9 in 13920.. there's something missing here :) 08:53 kivilahtio jajm: I PM:ed ou my commit stack 08:52 kivilahtio jajm: and applied in that order... 08:52 kivilahtio jajm: I numbered the apply order? 08:51 kivilahtio no idea. I get that crap all the time. Just use git apply --reject and it is a breeze (but boring) to apply them 08:51 jajm have you applied any other patches in between ? 08:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13920 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , API authentication system - proposal 08:51 jajm kivilahtio, bug 13920 doesn't apply well, i applied 13799, 13995 and 14437, but git still fails with error "sha1 information is lacking or useless (installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl)" 08:50 kivilahtio jajm: I worte a report here, not sure how accurate it is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/New_REST_API_RFC 08:49 kivilahtio jajm: the DBIx connection dies and doesn't come back 08:49 kivilahtio jajm: we have issues with our SIP server, can you imagine. 08:48 kivilahtio jajm: yes, but need to fix the SIP Server 08:48 jajm kivilahtio, around ? 08:48 jajm ashimema, swaggerui is now in a separate bug, i'm still working on removing the swaggerui part from the authentication bug 08:34 ashimema swagger 'should' make testing expected results formats easy.. nothing will make testing expected outputs given certain actions especially easy 08:28 wahanui testing is, like, fun! or easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint 08:28 cait testing... 08:28 cait resulting in making it hard to maintain keep running 08:28 drojf espresso anyone? 08:27 cait i am worried we overcomplicate this 08:24 ashimema I've scalled it back a little at least.. think we pretty much agreed to strip out the whole swagger ui peice 08:23 ashimema agreed.. 08:23 magnuse (not saying the API isn't important, though!) 08:23 magnuse and for a relatively small part of the bigger project too... 08:23 ashimema anywho.. hard one to call.. 08:22 rangi yeah 08:22 ashimema into another pre-existing app 08:22 ashimema 'tis hard.. I love Mojo and use it in our own home built app.. but it's oe thing starting a project with it.. it's another side loading it 08:21 ashimema inspired from dancer, mojo et al 08:21 rangi i agree 08:21 ashimema was pretty succint 08:21 ashimema I actualyl really liked pianohackers Koha::Restful stuff 08:20 rangi yup 08:20 ashimema but we do still appear to be pulling in an enormous amount of 'stack' to add this functionality.. if the idea is to slowly migrate Koha to Mojo.. then great.. if it's not.. then I feel it's meaning we'll be supporting two systems instead of one. 08:20 rangi yeah i feel the same way, i feel like its introducing a lot of potential debt 08:19 magnuse ashimema: excellent! 08:18 ashimema basing it on mojo kinda scares me.. mojo moves really fast as a project.. though that worry has been answered by sticking to the deb packaged one.. so effectively using a pinned version 08:17 ashimema I have mixed feelings.. in some ways I love it.. in others I think it's going way too far. 08:17 ashimema what are your thoughts on the whole API stuff then rangi? 08:17 rangi sweet 08:16 ashimema I try to get him to pop in here semi-regularly with updates 08:16 ashimema he's still going strong on it magnuse.. loads going on in the repo still 08:16 ashimema I've been crap at QA for a few months though.. which I don't like.. don't feel I'm pulling my weight at the minute.. and there's loads of interesting stuff going on 08:16 * magnuse hopes atheia gets time to wrap up the ill work 08:15 ashimema indeed 08:15 ashimema all nice big names too :).. but yeah.. means I'm not getting much time in te day to sleep at th eminute ;) 08:15 rangi is the game you have to play 08:15 rangi heh yeah 08:15 ashimema so it's mad at the moment here as you can imagine.. 08:14 magnuse nice 08:14 magnuse hehe 08:14 ashimema we put in for 5 at the beginning of the year thinking we might get one.. we ended up with all five. 08:14 magnuse w00t! 08:14 ashimema company has hit that stage now of winning allot fo the big contracts.. 08:14 ashimema I know that feeling well.. we're super busy over here at the moment.. 08:14 ashimema busy is good and bad ;) 08:13 rangi really busy, but good 08:13 ashimema hows it going anyways.. not spoken to you in ages? 08:13 ashimema though not actually read it all yet. 08:12 ashimema I ws just reading back.. saw a swagger convo going.. 08:12 ashimema dude.. you are awake.. 08:12 rangi sup ashimema 08:11 ashimema oh well 08:11 ashimema never seem to catch rangi whilst awake 08:00 AmitG indradg around? 07:49 gaetan_B "fun" fact, in 2010, ptfs also registered koha-community.com 07:32 drojf hei magnuse 07:31 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on June 25, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 07:31 magnuse @wunder boo 07:31 magnuse moin drojf gaetan_B liz 07:27 gaetan_B hello 07:22 drojf morning #koha 07:22 xarragon magnuse: 'Eeeeexcellent' in Mr Burns voice. 07:16 fridolin hie 07:14 magnuse looks like the marc field might get removed 07:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10455 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove redundant 'biblioitems.marc' field 07:14 magnuse bug 10455 07:13 magnuse xarragon: there is a bug about that 07:10 xarragon BobB_: Ok, that is consistent with my limited observations. Thank you. That simplifies some things for me. 07:09 BobB_ if I am not mistaken, the marc-blob is not used at all; only the marcxml is used 07:08 BobB_ xarragon, I saw a post on that on the devel list just recently ... 07:04 xarragon is that true, or where is the bare MARC used? 07:04 xarragon In the database we have both bare MARC data and MARCXML data, but from looking at some code it seems mostly the marcxml is used, in conjunction with MARC::Record~from_xml() 07:02 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:02 alex_a bonjour 06:41 reiveune salut magnuse :) 06:38 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:37 reiveune hello 06:35 magnuse hiya marcelr 06:35 marcelr hi #koha 06:23 * magnuse waves 06:18 kivilahtio_ hola bag 05:49 bag hey :) 05:49 indradg hi bag 05:49 huginn` indradg: The operation succeeded. 05:49 indradg @later tell eythian added you to CC on bug 14407, since it intends to add a new (yet unpackaged) perl dep 05:48 bag hola 05:48 huginn` indradg: eythian was last seen in #koha 3 days, 2 hours, 33 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <eythian> heh 05:48 indradg @seen eythian 05:41 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (10:50 AM IST on June 25, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). 05:41 indradg @wunder Kolkata 05:40 huginn` cdickinson_: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on June 25, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 05:40 cdickinson_ @wunder nzwn 05:10 huginn` kivilahtio_: The operation succeeded. 05:10 kivilahtio_ @later tell pianohacker If you want to use Perl, there is no alternative to use Swagger2 than Mojolicious. 04:43 AmitG indradg 04:43 AmitG hi 02:39 rangi i can see the appeal of following a standard(ish) which swagger is, so that your api is not super suprising 02:38 rangi yep 02:38 pianohacker swagger seems useful as a combined config/documentation effort, but the benefits of mojolicious are less clear 02:38 rangi heh 02:38 pianohacker my initial reaction to some of the infrastructure in the new API was that they were trying to boil oceans fast enough to counteract global warming... 02:37 pianohacker rangi: having reread logs, I very much share your concerns about Mojo 02:33 pianohacker and rangi :) 02:33 pianohacker hi wizzyrea 02:33 wizzyrea hi pianohacker 02:31 rangi hi pianohacker 02:30 pianohacker hi 02:01 wizzyrea it'd be easy from a devbox. 02:01 wizzyrea mtj: I have some stuff kind of ready for "from librarian to developer in 90 minutes" 01:25 jcamins Well, I highly recommend the fish. Swagger seems like a good idea, if it doesn't come with too many inconveniences. 01:24 rangi both in fact 01:23 jcamins Oh, sorry, you were probably responding to my comment on Swagger. 01:23 jcamins rangi: I _highly_ recommend it. 01:22 rangi jcamins: :) 00:47 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded. 00:47 jcamins @later tell cait Coconut-cashew-vanilla-crusted golden pomfret was a fantastic idea. 00:36 jcamins ... wait... 00:36 jcamins rangi: the idea is that Swagger will make it easier for developers to quickly integrate with your mainstream APIs.