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23:17 mtj mee too
23:17 wizzyrea all but the last two I think.
23:17 wizzyrea yeah same
23:16 mtj pretty good liz, i got the patches merged and waiting
23:15 wizzyrea how goes it with 3.16.x :)
23:15 wizzyrea hey mtj
23:14 * mtj waves to wizzyrea
23:12 wizzyrea ah, actually no need. My push rights were just broken, it was already in my branch. :)
23:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14173 normal, P3, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Paging on 'recent comments' page in OPAC is not displaying correctly
23:12 wizzyrea bug 14173
23:12 wizzyrea hi cait - sure I'll have a look at it
23:11 wahanui wizzyrea: confetti =is= <reply> o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`|http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif|https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
23:11 wizzyrea literal confetti?
23:10 wahanui confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
23:10 wizzyrea confetti?
23:08 * mtj does it that way ^
23:06 mtj you can cherrypick your commits from your dev branch, to the HEAD of a new 3.16 branch
23:04 mtj also.. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Using_Git_Cherry_Pick
23:04 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
23:04 mtj hey m1234, this is good info for you..
21:40 m1234 also, I am trying to upgrade to 3.16 and I do not know what the best steps would be
21:40 m1234 or does it even matter?
21:40 m1234 how to I make sure this branch is not ahead?
21:39 m1234 i have certain customization on UTT-Koha that I cannot lose
21:28 m1234 what can i do?
21:28 m1234 Your branch is ahead of 'origin/3.14.x' by 7 commits
21:28 m1234 if i do a git status and it says On branch UTT-Koha
21:02 rangi https://stackoverflow.com/questions/161813/fix-merge-conflicts-in-git
21:00 m1234 i'm sorry, but what command do i use to merge files?
21:00 Dyrcona It's time for me to go.
20:59 * Dyrcona turns into a pumpkin.
20:59 Dyrcona Should be.
20:58 m1234 right?
20:58 m1234 and to commit them i would have to type git commit -a
20:58 cait it would only work if you commited your changes
20:58 m1234 hmm
20:58 Dyrcona I don't think that will work at this point.
20:58 m1234 what would that do?
20:57 m1234 ?
20:57 m1234 if i use git rebase -i --onto
20:56 Dyrcona It could be that missing file causing the problem.
20:56 Dyrcona then git stash
20:56 m1234 it gave me fatal: git-write-tree: error building trees
20:55 Dyrcona I think what cait suggested might help: git merge --abort
20:55 tcohen bye #koha
20:55 Dyrcona Is that what gave you the errors?
20:55 m1234 yes
20:55 Dyrcona m1234: Did you try the git stash?
20:55 m1234 but i will need those changes
20:54 cait then the update will work - but your changes will be gone
20:54 Dyrcona oops. --hard, not --hart
20:54 Dyrcona git reset --hart HEAD # wipes out all uncommited changes and untracked files.
20:53 m1234 how to i clean up the branch
20:53 cait create a new one... and try doing the update there
20:53 cait clean up the branch
20:53 cait i'd abort the merge
20:53 m1234 cannot save the current index state
20:53 cait you should commit your customizations
20:53 cait it probably doesn't
20:53 m1234 i just get a fatal: git-write-tree: error building trees
20:52 Dyrcona you could try cait's suggestion, too, but I'm not sure how rebase works with unmerged/uncommitted files.
20:52 Dyrcona yeah, just git stash.
20:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14408: Allow integers in template paths <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64e47c63dc59669c3c651b93630c470e06107fd6> / Bug 14408: Add tests to get_template_and_user <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dd7c8f0d5fae67ea6177fdbac77a04f70661864> / Bug 14408: Path Traversal error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a7f459290326e1cea8460
20:52 Dyrcona git stash will save the changes and you can git stash pop them later.
20:52 m1234 just type git stash?
20:51 Dyrcona I was going to say that when I get unmerged files, I usually do git stash or even a git reset --hard.
20:51 cait that wil try to apply your customizations on top of the new version - might work better
20:50 cait i usually use a git rebase -i --onto
20:50 m1234 probably is not, but i do not know another way
20:50 Dyrcona I don't know if that is the recommended way or not.
20:49 m1234 $ git fetch $ git checkout -b my_3.14.x origin/3.14.x $ git checkout UTTKoha $ git merge my_3.14.x
20:49 m1234 this is how I used to upgrade from one release to another
20:48 m1234 i'm not very familiar with git
20:48 m1234 not a lot of customizations
20:47 m1234 did i have to do a purge origin before upgrading to 3.16?
20:47 Dyrcona Did you make a lot of customizations or apply patches, or did you just build in this repo?
20:46 Dyrcona untracked files are usually not a problem.
20:46 m1234 and I have some untracked files
20:46 m1234 there are a lot of "both modified"
20:45 Dyrcona m1234: Try git status to see what unmerged files exist.
20:44 m1234 it says fatal: unable to stat 'installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_numberpatterns.sql': No such file or directory
20:43 m1234 and when I do a git add .
20:43 m1234 it tells me I have unmerged files
20:43 m1234 hello. I am trying to upgrade from 3.14 to 3.16 and I ran into an issue
20:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14253: (follow-up) Same fix for the basket page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b61782f1e78c771d66351b380755182e111eaf81> / Bug 14253: Acq - notify borrowers popup needs to allow scrolling <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e835e03ccf1c7f8cf9f2e9949d2d19889c3610a5> / Bug 5025: discrepancy between opac doc-head-open.inc and staff doc-head-open.inc <http://git
19:30 huginn mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 3 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <khall> changing the status to in discussion
19:30 mtompset @seen khall
19:23 cait thx for the locales patch :)
19:22 bgkriegel thanks cait :)
19:21 cait inventory number is used at least in germany and france i think - the plugins named *stocknumber* go with it
19:20 cait have never been able to make sense of f and j
19:20 cait hm we use i
19:18 bgkriegel 952', 'f', 'Coded location qualifier', '952', 'i', 'Inventory number', '952', 'j', 'Shelving control number'
19:17 nengard I didn't see fields for them in the database probably ... i'll look in a sec
19:17 bgkriegel Are those subfields used?
19:17 bgkriegel Manual does not mention 952$f, i and j.
19:16 bgkriegel Hi nicole
19:15 nengard what's up
19:15 nengard I'm here
19:14 huginn bgkriegel: nengard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <nengard> except maybe that I can have a P attached and A can have a C attached ...
19:14 bgkriegel @seen nengard
19:14 tcohen hi
19:13 bgkriegel Hello
18:27 tcohen hi cait
18:00 huginn mtompset: kivilahtio was last seen in #koha 4 days, 3 hours, 28 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <kivilahtio> I know I will!
18:00 mtompset @seen kivilahtio
18:00 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:49 Joubu goodbye #koha
16:47 tcohen heh
16:18 gaetan_B bye
16:17 * indradg comes back online to see the RM has been super busy :)
16:16 indradg tcohen++ for the pushes :)
16:16 indradg kia ora #koha
15:54 Joubu pianohacker: thanks for the confirmation :)
15:51 pianohacker Joubu: pretty sure you're not only right, you've been right since 2009 (14be4400d84b28369d095b3b0bfa79c3396f44d4)
15:47 Joubu It seems to be populate by C4::Reports::Guided::store_results which is never called
15:47 Joubu hum, Am I tired or the saved_reports table is always empty?
15:46 reiveune bye
15:44 nengard_phone I think it's catalyst ....
15:42 tcohen #koha: does anyone know who takes care of schema.koha-community.org?
14:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14290: Add a table foot to circulation matrix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ea3465d30b1b0fcd12a5592ce5a4c34a9a58462> / Bug 12616: Locale in subscriptions not preselecting correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9c4061479235d0d79ecbd917b015db5441d8118> / Bug 8330: Overdue email link contains untranslatable 'Overdue:' <http://git.koha-community.org/gi
14:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14401: Zebra index configuration doesn't allow exact search for C. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f86743d893b61a4609d2f02a175db9944710067e> / Bug 14394: fix documentation of OpacHiddenItems <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=865321f3726c3b6065ef72107017c4171630d140> / Bug 14422: Typo in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c
14:39 fridolin bye
13:12 marcelr :)
13:11 tcohen marcelr++ # sense of humour
12:49 marcelr so we suppressed them instead of solving them
12:49 marcelr note that they were disabled previously
12:49 tcohen marcelr: thanks
12:49 marcelr tcohen: i will open a new report for the warnings from the plugins
12:49 tcohen hi marcelr!
12:48 marcelr hi tcohen
12:43 tcohen hi magnuse
12:43 magnuse kia ora tcohen
12:42 tcohen morning
12:21 alex_a AmitG: yep
12:21 AmitG alex_a around?
12:19 AmitG Jonathan around?
11:55 drojf magnuse: cait:
11:53 magnuse cait:
11:52 cait drojf:
11:00 marcelr but just a glance..
10:59 marcelr when i look at the code i would no longer expect a decode there ?
10:59 Joubu marcelr: that's a very good news :)
10:59 marcelr just a quick test..
10:58 marcelr Joubu: seems to be okay (searched for ééé and MÄori again on opac and staff)
10:57 drojf [off] bad luck i'm on a bus in the middle of the day
10:57 * drojf too
10:56 * rangi should go to sleep
10:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14431 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Encoding issues - search in staff
10:56 marcelr bug 14431
10:55 Joubu patch attached, marcelr could you please test again with the patch?
10:54 rangi so that will probably have the problem too
10:54 rangi but yeah .. jessie is 2.63
10:54 rangi thats why im running the slightly newer version
10:53 rangi http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/libe/libencode-perl/libencode-perl_2.44-1+deb7u1_changelog
10:52 marcelr $Id: Encode.pm,v 2.42
10:51 rangi ah ha, debian security patch
10:51 Joubu pmvers should be used
10:50 marcelr rangi: also provided by perl
10:48 rangi ah you might have cpanned it on
10:47 marcelr funny: installed none? candidate 2.44-1
10:46 rangi im guessing you have 2.44 like me
10:46 rangi apt-cache policy libencode-perl
10:45 rangi can you do
10:45 marcelr current master
10:45 marcelr Joubu: no problems here with MÄori and ééé
10:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14431 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Encoding issues - search in staff
10:44 Joubu bug 14431
10:42 rangi (wheezy)
10:41 cait in the mappings
10:41 cait i think ä a is even matched without icu
10:41 rangi 2.44-1+deb7u1
10:41 rangi :)
10:41 Joubu ok, will open a bug report and create 2 different test plans :)
10:40 rangi must be
10:40 Joubu I have 2.60, pretty sure yours is <
10:39 Joubu rangi: the Encode version
10:39 rangi how weird, i wonder what is different
10:38 Joubu with diacritic "ééé", I "just" get enconding issues
10:38 Joubu utf8 chars result in boom "cannot decode string with wide chars"
10:34 rangi yours is utf8 ... not a extended latin char eh?
10:33 rangi i wonder what is different
10:32 rangi that'll be the icu kicking in and searching for a also
10:32 Joubu If someone around does not have the issue, could you please try the patch and let me know what's happened.
10:32 rangi 117730 result(s) found for 'kw,wrdl: ä' in Parliamentary Library Catalog.
10:31 Joubu k
10:30 rangi so cant really change the code
10:30 rangi hmm i cant recreate the issue, and im testing on a live site
10:30 Joubu with MÄori and Schärer
10:30 Joubu it fixes the issues for me
10:29 pastebot "Joubu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: this" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/149
10:29 rangi r
10:29 rangi but im not getting any erro
10:29 rangi which is correct, nothing does match that
10:29 rangi No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: Schärer' in Parliamentary Library Catalog.
10:28 Joubu rangi: could you try:
10:28 rangi hmm weird
10:28 Joubu Encode version...
10:28 Joubu Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl/5.20/Encode.pm line 215.
10:28 Joubu explodes here.
10:28 Joubu /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=MÄori
10:28 drojf beda's library manually switched to dom not long ago. i hope my instructions did not cause any weirdness. but they would have found that in 3.18 too i guess
10:27 Joubu rangi: I did with cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?idx=kw&q=Schärer&idx=kw&idx=kw&sort_by=relevance
10:26 rangi worked fine on opac and staff
10:26 rangi i just did a search for MÄori
10:25 rangi a couple of people do, i havent hit encoding issues on intranet yet
10:23 Joubu in
10:23 Joubu Does nobody use it yet on production?
10:23 Joubu Really, encoding issues when search at the intranet on 3.20??
10:18 cait storing_passwords_in_plaintext--
10:15 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on June 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
10:15 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:02 cdickinson it's gotten to the point that I'm making my PC do distributed computing in order to help heat up my room
10:02 cdickinson yep
10:02 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.2°C (10:00 PM NZST on June 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
10:02 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
10:02 drojf hi #koha
09:03 leander thanks cait
09:03 leander i have to try it later because i cant reach the machine currently
09:01 leander i see
09:01 cait in the system preference
09:01 cait also make sure that the patron category code is valid
09:01 leander ok, i can try it
09:01 leander hm, no
09:01 cait just to see if then the patron is added?
09:01 cait did you try if it works without email verification?
09:00 cait hm
09:00 seige hi cait!
09:00 cait yu shouldn't give me that power
09:00 seige i'm trying to set up patron self registration, so far the catalog claims to send verfication emails but the new patron cannot be found in the database and no email is received by the new patron-mailbox, where should I look for mailserver-settings or error-logfiles?
09:00 rangi now you can
08:58 cait hi seige :)
08:58 cait hm rangi, can you change the topic?
08:58 * cait waves
08:57 seige hi
08:51 andreashm hey cait
08:51 cait hi andreashm :)
08:50 * andreashm waves
08:43 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (8:30 PM NZST on June 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
08:43 rangi @wunder nzwn
08:35 rangi cool, yeah they are safe enough
08:30 Joubu rangi: I added a patch for integers (to allow integers)
08:29 magnuse sign off all the things!
08:27 rangi joubu++ # thanks for the sign off
08:24 magnuse then just do it ;-)
08:21 cait doesn't have to - i know
08:21 magnuse cait: it's telling you to take another holiday :-)
08:10 cait hm my computer shut itself down..
08:09 marcelr hi ashimema magnuse
07:58 magnuse kia ora ashimema et al
07:58 ashimema morning #koha
07:47 marcelr hi cait Joubu
07:47 cait hi marcelr and Joubu
07:45 Joubu Hi #koha
07:42 marcelr hi #koha
07:29 wahanui hey, gaetan_B
07:29 gaetan_B hello
07:09 fridolin hie
07:00 alex_a bonjour
06:54 * magnuse waves again
06:48 reiveune hello
06:44 * magnuse waves
06:19 indradg hiya AmitG
06:19 AmitG hi indradg
05:05 dcook Hmm, Hmm, except Tinymce's version doesn't catch Ctrl+C... which is good... but tricksy
05:04 dcook hehe. Yep
05:01 liz keyup would catch that one :)
05:01 liz :)
04:55 wahanui i heard facepalm was a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.
04:55 * dcook facepalm
04:55 dcook I paste using Ctrl+V :p
04:55 dcook Of course it works when I paste
04:55 dcook I'm an idiot
04:26 dcook Ok, j'ai une idée...
04:21 dcook Which I guess would still be caught by "oninput"
04:20 dcook Seems that I look for TinyMce's "onKeyUp" and then I trigger a "keyup" event manually on the original element
04:17 dcook Yeah, I might do a git log/blame at some point
04:17 dcook keyup seems to work with pasting?
04:17 dcook Hmm, I have to have people do that now, but only when using editor buttons
04:16 liz git log would know why
04:16 liz there was a problem with pasting - people found it annoying that you had to enter a space sometimes
04:16 dcook Yeah, I can't remember if Koha is at 4.x or not yet
04:16 dcook I'm using "ed.onKeyUp" atm
04:16 liz 4.x
04:16 liz gosh mce is up to 4
04:16 dcook 3.5.8, I think
04:15 liz what version of tinymce?
04:15 dcook I wonder why we changed from "keyup" to "change"..
04:14 dcook But maybe I just need to read the API documentation further
04:13 dcook As the interactions with the editor are too high level me thinks
04:13 dcook I think it might not work for me with TinyMCE though :/
04:13 liz \o/
04:13 dcook wizzyrea++
04:13 dcook Beauty :)
04:12 liz https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/dom.html#global-attributes
04:12 dcook What's the link?
04:12 dcook \o/
04:12 liz oninput is in the list
04:12 liz The following event handler content attributes may be specified on any HTML element:
04:12 liz aha
04:11 dcook Sounds good to me
04:11 liz I'm not fully sure about that part, but it does seem to work and I don't see anything that explicitly says "no don't do that"
04:07 dcook Err input rather than "input"?
04:07 dcook So Input rather than "input"?
04:07 liz which would include textarea
04:07 dcook What about select elements?
04:06 liz is what I'm reading
04:06 liz all Input controls, other than buttons
04:06 dcook Hmm other sites say textarea too
04:04 dcook https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/GlobalEventHandlers/oninput
04:04 dcook Hmm, it looks like "oninput" is meant for "input" elements only?
04:04 liz it went from keyup, which had mild issues, to change, which has major issues
04:03 dcook Hmm apparently keyup worked with pasting...
04:02 dcook I wrote the WYSIWYG stuff last year when my JS-fu was weaker :p
04:01 dcook Mmm but surely I could..
04:01 dcook Hmm I don't know if I can use jQuery or not..
03:58 dcook Hmm, I'll give it a try now!
03:56 dcook Hmm very interesting!
03:56 liz seems just the thing for that though
03:56 * liz neither until just the other day
03:56 liz it's html5
03:55 dcook I'd never heard of 'input' before as an event
03:55 dcook I'll look
03:55 dcook I read that totally wrong
03:55 dcook Ahh, my bad
03:55 liz because input is, well, input.
03:55 liz and I think would not interfere with wysiwyg
03:54 liz the patch makes it all on('input') which works every way you'd like it to
03:54 dcook I think I already use "change"... which doesn't fire if you use JS to change the content within the element
03:53 dcook I'd already hacked the JS when I added WYSIWYG editors though
03:53 dcook Nopes
03:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not enable the Save button
03:53 liz bug 14389
03:53 liz dcook did you try it with that patch?
03:14 eythian heh
03:14 liz spud was watching over my shoulder he was like "Is that a minion" I was like "Yes, minions really love the museum. Just like you!"
03:13 cdickinson hahaha
03:13 liz cdickinson: we can be friends. :)
03:13 cdickinson I hate jumping on bandwagons for when food makers change their formula and stuff, but Cadbury really is worse than it used to be
03:13 cdickinson in fact, Whittakers in general is awesome
03:12 cdickinson Dark Ghana is really awesome
03:11 cdickinson I was eyeing it up, liz, but I couldn't take your chocolate haha
03:11 eythian it likes those tentoongestelde
03:08 liz hah!
03:01 eythian http://nos.nl/video/2042179-bewakingscamera-s-museum-leggen-de-vreemde-bezoeker-vast.html
03:00 liz you have my permission ;)
03:00 liz I think...
03:00 liz actually, on my desk, there's some dark kaitaia spice if you want a square :)
02:59 liz you and me, we can bond over a dark ghana sometime
02:59 liz nope :)
02:56 cdickinson I'm praying I'm not the only dark chocolate lover here
02:56 cdickinson lol
02:48 ibeardslee liz++
02:48 liz ^ you can hold on to that one.
02:48 liz well, being awesome requires awesome fuel.
02:47 ibeardslee .. too many "I *NEED* chocolate" days
02:47 liz good internet providers that are not vodafone?
02:47 liz :)
02:47 ibeardslee although that varies depending on how my day goes
02:47 ibeardslee the person who builds it
02:46 liz does the intended recipient of the computer get the chocolate, or you?
02:46 ibeardslee .. not the 10kg
02:46 ibeardslee I like how our PC and laptop supplier includes a bar with each PC and laptop
02:46 liz the stuff they make things like 10kg bars of chocolate out of is mostly wax :P
02:45 dcook Mmm whittakers chocolate
02:44 eythian heh
02:44 liz eythian: :) only if it's whittakers chocolate
02:43 ibeardslee but there could be value in getting (eg) a RPi to also control a string of LEDs for extra effect
02:43 eythian well, I suppose if I used a 2D array lof LEDs...
02:42 ibeardslee eythian: it could be .. although maybe not for a full dashboard.
02:39 dcook I sort of wanted to win it... just to say I had a 10kg bar of chocolate
02:39 dcook It was for a firefighter raffle, and the fellow hefting it routinely seemed to be getting a bit over the chocolate
02:39 dcook It was definitely the size of a child
02:38 eythian * liz drools
02:38 liz that's massive
02:38 liz 10kg
02:37 dcook It was a lot of chocolate
02:37 eythian that sounds like a lot of chocolate
02:37 eythian like for showing current information on systems
02:37 dcook I also recall either cookies or chocolate, which reminds me that I saw a 10kg bar of chocolate on Saturday
02:36 dcook O_O
02:36 * dcook seems to recall having seen a photo of this string of LEDs...
02:36 dcook Dashboards?
02:35 eythian that's what I'm using :)
02:35 eythian he's trying to work out what people are using for dashboards across catalyst to aid in standardisation.
02:34 dcook O_o
02:33 eythian ibeardslee: is "arduino and string of LEDs" a useful response :)
01:31 dcook Hmm or maybe Excel can figure it's UTF8 if there's a BOM...
01:30 dcook Yep. Silly Microsoft...
01:29 dcook Hmm me thinks this data is in UTF8 and that Excel isn't reading it as UTF8..
01:29 eythian it'd be a good thing for HEA to track
01:27 dcook export_format I guess
01:27 dcook nvm
01:27 dcook Anyone know, off the top of their heads, where CSV export profiles are stored?
01:27 mtj cool, thx
01:24 rangi we run some
01:23 mtj ..sorry, i meant on #irc, currently
01:22 rangi who knows
01:22 mtj silly question ... are most people running with memcache enabled?
01:15 rangi http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/TCOHEN/Memoize-Memcached-0.04/lib/Memoize/Memcached.pm <-- something like that, but Memoize::KohaCache instead :)
01:12 eythian (though, a memoise function that works with koha::cache would be good, if someone happens to write one by accident... :)
01:11 mtj ok, awesome
01:11 eythian never use things like memcache directly
01:11 rangi we shouldnt care
01:10 rangi which could be memcache, it could be something else
01:10 wahanui Koha::Cache is more invalidation-friendly.
01:10 rangi Koha::Cache
01:10 mtj we are talking about caching using memcache here?
01:07 rangi profile it with the cache disabled, then again with it on
01:07 rangi would be easy to test if it is a win too
01:03 mtj i like the idea of caching the holidays, as an easy 1st win
01:01 eythian yeah, it is clean.
01:00 rangi it is quite easy reading code, ill give it that
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01:00 rangi (days_between, prev_open_day etc .. they all hang off iterating and asking is_holiday)
00:59 rangi basically speed that up and tons of stuff gets faster
00:59 rangi http://paste.koha-community.org/148
00:59 eythian yeah
00:59 rangi eythian: even the next open day, hangs off is_holidays
00:58 rangi including the fines and overdue scripts too
00:58 rangi if is_holidays is fast, then everything gets faster
00:57 rangi mtj: tl;dr is_holiday is slow because it calls single_holidays, single_holidays is slow, because it creates this massively overly powerful DateTime::Set object (and exception_holidays does the same)
00:57 ibeardslee clean your glasses?
00:57 dcook On a totally unrelated note, I have just run out of flatbread but still have lots of hommus left... *sadface*
00:56 mtj peeps, heres the full nytprof dir, if yr curious.. -> http://106.187.50.84/pub/nytprof/index.html
00:55 * mtj reads the scrollback...
00:50 rangi whereas a rewrite would have to wait for a major one
00:50 rangi id do the caching first, cos that could go in a maintenance release
00:50 rangi yep
00:50 eythian best would be to do both
00:50 rangi and implementing our own contains
00:49 rangi win 2 would be rewriting it
00:49 rangi the first win would be just caching single_holidays
00:49 dcook (wet week?)
00:49 rangi and you have to do it every single issue (rebuild the set)
00:49 rangi but as slow as wet week
00:49 rangi which is elegant
00:49 rangi does $self->single_holidays->contains($localdt
00:48 rangi so is_holiday
00:48 dcook ^
00:48 eythian but still, very easy to implement in a fast, simple way
00:48 rangi sets still aren't helping us with that :)
00:48 rangi yeah, how many dates are before this date, and after today
00:48 dcook Yeah, and you don't want to include weekends and other closed dates
00:47 eythian well yeah, but we can make our own function called "contains" :)
00:47 eythian we also need to check the days inbetween in some cases, don't we? (I have in my head that some libraries will not count holidays in the number of days that you can have something out.)
00:47 rangi in terms of easy to read as a programmer
00:47 rangi i mean its nice to be able to do contains
00:46 rangi like eythian said, theres lot faster ways to do that
00:46 rangi we have one date, the date due, and a we have to check it doesnt land on one of the holidays
00:45 rangi which we dont have either
00:45 rangi its good for comparing sets
00:45 eythian the set stuff is probably ideal when you have complex cases, but we don't
00:45 eythian so you can say that 25-12 is a holiday very quickly
00:45 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~fglock/DateTime-Set-0.3400/lib/DateTime/Set.pm
00:45 rangi and im unconvinced we need the overhead of using sets
00:45 rangi thats the slow bit
00:45 eythian or possibly something similar with a hash
00:44 rangi its that DateTime::Set->from_datetimes( dates => $dates );
00:44 eythian see, I'd use DataTime to pull the day of year from them and put it into an array (something something leap years) and then just look up that.
00:44 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "while ( my ( $day, $month, $ye" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/147
00:44 rangi 2 secs
00:44 rangi that while loop and the making the actual datetime objects seems fine
00:44 dcook That looks like an internal link perhaps?
00:43 rangi http://paste.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz/0e32ca
00:43 eythian the holidays
00:43 dcook Which date?
00:43 eythian yeah
00:43 rangi you do want one for each date
00:43 rangi and not the problem
00:43 rangi those seem to be fast
00:43 dcook How many DateTime objects does a person need to make? O_o
00:42 rangi basic::union set::infinite etc
00:42 rangi its all the set stuff
00:42 rangi ie the DateTime->new doesnt seem to bre registering
00:41 rangi its this set object
00:41 eythian well
00:41 rangi its not so much the objects themselves
00:41 eythian or I wonder if there's a faster way to create the DataTime objects perhaps
00:41 rangi im unconvinced we need the overheard of doing set math
00:41 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~fglock/DateTime-Set-0.3400/lib/DateTime/Set.pm
00:40 rangi https://github.com/mvgrimes/perl-datetimex-immutable/tree/master
00:40 rangi or we could switch to
00:39 rangi you could save a bunch of time
00:39 rangi and flush the cache whenever the calendar is changed (ie someone adds or deletes a holiday)
00:39 rangi i reckon if you koha::cached that
00:39 eythian if so, they could be cached throughout the system
00:38 eythian are datetime object immutable?
00:38 rangi $self->{single_holidays}{$branchcode} = DateTime::Set->from_datetimes( dates => $dates );
00:38 rangi which is called from single_holidays
00:38 eythian yeah
00:38 rangi if you look therem the DateTime::Set::from_datatimes is the big one
00:37 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39765
00:37 eythian hmm
00:37 rangi (creating a date time object for each is the slow bit)
00:36 eythian hmm, but it should still be quick to do that even if it's not cached.
00:36 rangi so every single circ, it works them all out again
00:36 rangi which dies when the cgi script dies
00:36 rangi except they only cache them in a perl variable
00:36 rangi yep, thats what single_holidays and exception_holidays do
00:36 eythian but I bet it can be made better.
00:36 eythian mtj: so all the time is being wasted on comparisons, it looks like. Seems to me that a better approach would be to load all the holidays into a sparse array first, then you could count through the issue days one by one and look them up at O(1), resulting in O(n) over all (where n is the number of issue days.)
00:35 rangi properly
00:34 rangi for a start Koha::Calendar::single_holidays should be cached
00:34 eythian heh yeah
00:33 dcook As opposed to the days where you had to decide which games to uninstall before installing your new game :p
00:33 dcook It was a bit of a shock to think that I could actually fill a disk
00:33 dcook Actually, I noticed that I was almost out of disk space on my desktop the other day...
00:32 dcook I bet!
00:32 dcook hehe
00:32 eythian dcook: with the hackrf you can record the raw data from it. Which saves at up to about 40MB/s. It's pretty easy to forget you're recording until you run out of space a few minutes later.
00:30 huginn 04Bug 14315: normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, In Discussion , Slow checkouts, caused by many 'special_holidays' definitions
00:30 mtj eythian: i attached some nytprof pics to this bug -> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14315
00:30 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Profiling_with_Devel::NYTProf
00:30 * dcook recalls when 4MB seemed amazingly large
00:30 dcook It used to be though
00:29 eythian also, 1.8GB isn't the end of the world.
00:29 eythian is your friend here
00:29 eythian NYTProf
00:27 mtj i did a Devel::Trace::More dump of a single checkout... and ended up with a 1.8 gig file
00:26 eythian third would be to find a way to make it O(n) or so.
00:25 eythian the first step would be to profile it and see what is slow. The second would be to analyse the big-O speed profile.
00:24 eythian there's probably something smart that can be done with proper date and interval algorithms, I expect however it's being done right now is fairly naive.
00:22 mtj well, fair point.. i did assume we were doing it properly - and as fast as possible
00:21 rangi so we've probably built some madness into it by accident
00:21 rangi it's what perl does well
00:21 rangi comparing numbers should be crazy fast
00:21 rangi yeah so fixing why it's slow will win us more, than making it stop sooner
00:20 eythian yeah, and I don't see why it would be
00:20 mtj eythian: its very very slow
00:20 eythian _that's_ the problem, aiui
00:19 eythian but it shouldn't be slow anyway
00:19 mtj ..as soon as the 'hard due date' date is reached, the processing should stop
00:19 eythian it should take no time at all to process a couple of hundred days or more.
00:19 dcook ^
00:19 eythian I get the impression that that whole thing needs a better algorithm
00:19 mtj as soon as the 'hard due date
00:18 mtj circ-rules that have 'hard date due' values set, seem to get processed for *all* of their 'loan perio'd days
00:16 mtj hmm, ive noticed something else around slow checkouts