Time Nick Message 22:31 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 22:31 cait night all 22:31 cait hi eythian 22:30 eythian hi 22:14 wizzyrea A+ excellent bugfixing for 3.20 21:54 pianohacker woot! 21:54 rangi if that can get pushed in the next few days, it can make 3.20.1 21:54 wizzyrea gnite pianohacker 21:54 cait night pianohacker :) 21:54 rangi pianohacker++ 21:54 pianohacker seems like a good note to end on :) good night all 21:53 cait pianohacker++ 21:53 wizzyrea \o/ 21:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not enable the Save button 21:52 pianohacker cait/wizzyrea/magnuse: bug 14389 21:37 pianohacker ah, right 21:37 cait pianohacker: i think maybe use magnus' one and link? 21:37 wizzyrea ah, open a new one 21:37 pianohacker cait: open new bug or reopen? 21:37 wizzyrea it is definitely hinky in 3.18.06+ 21:35 cait true 21:35 wizzyrea git knows everything :P 21:34 cait heh 21:34 wizzyrea git_log++ 21:34 pianohacker wizzyrea++ 21:34 cait wizzyrea++ 21:34 pianohacker Joubu's fix in that bug will solve some problems but create others 21:34 pianohacker dangit :/ yeah, of course, it should be $(...).on('keyup, change') 21:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11464 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Saving preferences - Nothing to Save 21:33 wizzyrea bug 11464 21:32 wizzyrea 11464 21:31 cait bugs... always hiding when you start looking for one 21:30 cait we made some changes there for 3.18... but can't find the bug 21:28 cait wizzyrea: i think it def changed - I know the bug you mean, but it seems a bit different now 21:28 cait woohoo 21:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface 21:28 pianohacker new rancor patches! bug 11559 21:28 wizzyrea but I believe you if you say it is. 21:28 wizzyrea I hadn't noticed it getting worse and I've been dinking around with 3.18 quite a bit lately. 21:27 cait i had it when testing the unwantedfields one recently 21:27 cait and typing it in, not pasting 21:26 cait not for me at least 21:26 cait space is not enough 21:26 cait now it got worse 21:26 cait i think they tried to fix that 21:26 wizzyrea cait, magnuse: that thing in sysprefs is a long standing issue I usually toss a space in there to activate the button, it's something to do with javascript not picking up paste operations as a keystroke 20:00 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 20:00 cait @later tell marcelr could you take a look at bug 14370? Looking for additional opinions and you had opened a similar one 19:35 cait hm no tcohen today? 19:11 * magnuse cheers rancor on 19:09 cait good heh 19:09 pianohacker cait: oh, heavens no, this would be a separate bug 19:07 cait would be good to get some solid base tested soon 19:07 cait often worth having a separate feature separate 19:07 cait pianohacker: tihnk about adding not too much to the initial patch please 19:06 cait i know :) 19:06 pianohacker cait: also, my message 22 minutes ago was re: your later about rancor from 3-4 days ago 19:02 pianohacker well, not direct side effect, but we get the necessary library ;) 19:02 pianohacker cait: side effect of bringing in rancor, we get a syntax-highlighting editor for sysprefs like that ;) 19:01 magnuse i typhoed 19:00 cait huh? 19:00 magnuse ednable. gah! 19:00 magnuse done 18:59 pianohacker thanks :) 18:58 magnuse pianohacker: awesome, will do! 18:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14389 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Editing a syspref in a textarea does not ednable the Save button 18:58 magnuse bug 14389 18:57 pianohacker magnuse: assign it to me? There are some lingering issues with sysprefs that I need to fix, and that should be one of them 18:55 magnuse ah 18:55 magnuse cait: have you seen it on master? 18:55 cait magnuse: i think i saw it on master too... 18:55 pianohacker cait: will do, soon soon, meeting-heavy day :) 18:55 * magnuse reports the bug 18:54 cait pianohacker: could you update the bug? it was a question from someone really interested in it :) 18:54 pianohacker odd 18:54 cait it's really annoying 18:54 cait a change doesn't activate it every time 18:53 magnuse but it did get activated while i was reporting the problem here... 18:53 cait htought i was going a little crazy :) 18:53 cait could you file a bug? 18:53 cait magnuse: yep me too 18:53 pianohacker odd, it does on mine, though I am on master 18:53 magnuse don't think so 18:53 pianohacker cait: working on a new set of patches including the system preference and new test plan 18:53 pianohacker magnuse: does clicking outside the textbox activate the save button? 18:52 magnuse hm, feels like whenever i edit a syspref in a textarea, my changes are not picked up and the "save" button is not activated. anyone else seeing that? i'm on 3.18.7 18:03 magnuse hm, we should start pushing pics of him to flickr 18:01 nengard awwwwwwww 17:56 magnuse mikkel, our almost-6-month-old puffindog waves too 17:54 nengard so sweet 17:54 nengard :) 17:53 * magnuse waves specifically at nengard 17:48 * nengard waves back 17:43 * magnuse waves again 16:40 cait back 15:50 reiveune bye 15:29 kivilahtio so funny 15:29 bag hi cait 15:28 cait hi bag 15:28 bag heh evening kivilahtio 15:28 kivilahtio bag: evening 15:19 * chris_n blinks and looks around 15:09 bag morning 14:14 kivilahtio well, point taken 14:13 kivilahtio but it is a bit hard to get into 14:13 kivilahtio well I agree the SIP servers works well. 14:10 * cait runs off 14:10 cait oh, saw it now *blushes* 14:09 cait just some things we could do a little better i guess or more things to implement 14:09 cait the sip server works failry well even, we hardly see any problems ever 14:09 ashimema that's what I was typing there cait 14:09 ashimema ;) 14:09 cait so the sip server is not to blame 14:09 ashimema but I'm certainly interesteing in the VPN route that one of our customers is wanting. 14:09 cait i think the standard doesn't have encryption 14:09 ashimema hense why we tunnel it.. often via an ssh tunnel in our case.. 14:08 ashimema can't see how redesignign the SIP server would help.. encryption isn't in the SIP spec.. so you'de be breaking the stnadard is you added encrpyption directly to the server ;) 14:07 kivilahtio no idea. I am wondering why you are asking if there arent any? 14:07 ashimema IPSec is just a VPN solution.. 14:07 ashimema are there? 14:05 kivilahtio ashimema: are there issues with vpn and SIP Server? 14:04 kivilahtio ashimema: Even better would be to completely redesign the Koha's SIP Server. Not sure if we could do it better tho... 14:04 kivilahtio ashimema: sounds like a good idea. 14:03 ashimema good way to encrypt your sip traffic.. but I've not worked out how to do it yet ;) 14:03 ashimema it's 'interesting' 13:58 kivilahtio ashimema: sounds cool 13:57 cait no idea 13:54 ashimema anyone out there using an IPSec based vpn for their koha box? 13:40 cait I remember a longer list, might have gotten lost 13:38 cait but it misses some of the thigns we have worked towards to in the gui 13:38 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 13:38 cait hm there is PERL7 13:37 kivilahtio I would like to map our terms to Koha-English counterparts 13:37 cait at least i thought so, let me check 13:37 kivilahtio because we just started one in KohaFinland 13:37 cait yep 13:37 kivilahtio do we have a agreed terminology somewheere? 13:37 cait no guarantees - but that's how i remember it :) 13:37 kivilahtio thanks for the tip 13:37 kivilahtio ok 13:37 cait library is more general - the gui should always be using library now i think 13:36 cait they don't want to be a 'branch' of... x 13:36 cait which doesn't apply to consortia 13:36 cait branches applies some kind of hierarchy 13:36 cait for branches and libraries - there was a discussion 13:36 kivilahtio thanks cait! 13:36 wahanui okay, cait. 13:36 cait i am also against issues to not confuse with serials 13:36 kivilahtio just getting increasingly Issued with Issues. 13:36 cait loans might also exist, but i think using something we already use woudl be good 13:35 kivilahtio checkuts is good 13:35 kivilahtio I just browsed our library terms dictionary 13:35 cait i'd prefer t stick with the english gui language and use checkouts 13:35 cait lendings i have never heard of 13:34 cait checkouts are only done in hotels there 13:34 kivilahtio We also have Issues in our ISsue tracker 13:34 cait because the nz word for loan/checkout is issue 13:34 kivilahtio or Loans ? which is more confortable in real life than Issues? 13:34 kivilahtio Can I use Lendings instead of Issues? 13:33 kivilahtio is tehre a discussion about that? 13:33 kivilahtio we also have branches and libraries? 13:33 kivilahtio So when I talk about my Issues, that doesn't make sense? 13:33 kivilahtio We have Serial Issues/Magazines. I also have Issues. 13:33 kivilahtio can anybody tell me why Issues are Issues instead of Lendings/Loans? 13:31 cait Greece++ :) 12:18 huginn` cait: andreashm was last seen in #koha 1 week, 4 days, 20 hours, 47 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <andreashm> ashimema++ 12:18 cait @seen andreashm 12:18 huginn` cait: downloading the Perl source 12:18 cait @andreashm 12:18 huginn` cait: oleonard was last seen in #koha 15 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. 12:18 cait @seen oleonard 12:18 cait hmmm 12:18 huginn` cait: I have not seen andreash. 12:18 cait @seen andreash 12:18 huginn` cait: I have not seen andreas. 12:18 cait @seen andreas 12:18 huginn` cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes 12:18 cait @seem andreas 08:43 magnuse cait++ 08:32 cait np :) 08:32 indradg yeah 08:32 cait ml? 08:32 cait mlß 08:31 indradg thanks cait L) 07:43 magnuse probably 07:39 cait i have a feeling i will spend the day reading emails 07:39 cait never 07:37 magnuse never long enough, eh? :-) 07:31 cait yeah, I am afraid so 07:28 magnuse kia ora cait - back from holiday? 07:03 alex_a bonjour 07:03 magnuse a movie by Tom Tykwer 07:03 magnuse run dcook run 07:03 dcook Ciao, European folks! 07:03 dcook In any case, I better run! 07:02 dcook My legs didn't thank me after walking the Samaria Gorge though O_O 07:02 dcook Mmm, loved Crete 07:02 * magnuse has been to Crete twice, wouldn't mind seeing other parts 07:00 * dcook wouldn't mind going back to Greece ;) 06:48 magnuse ooh, we have competition for kohacon16! 06:45 * magnuse waves 06:38 huginn` indradg: cait was last seen in #koha 59 minutes and 11 seconds ago: <cait> hi eythian 06:38 indradg @seen cait 06:38 indradg hi all 06:28 reiveune hello 05:39 cait hi eythian 05:34 eythian hi cait 04:24 rangi no worries 04:24 Francesca I was sick 04:24 Francesca hey rangi sorry I didn't end up coming on friday 03:41 tcohen night #koha 03:39 tcohen rangi: sounds great 03:30 rangi i wouldnt queue it in the db, the way we do now 03:30 tcohen about it 03:30 tcohen by the minute i got brendan's question 03:29 rangi rabbitmq, or gearman or something that does queueing and job control 03:29 tcohen so was thinking how to rethink that queue 03:29 tcohen i've been thinking of setting multiple zebra processes 03:29 rangi yeah 03:29 rangi indexed by es, indexed by zebra 03:29 eythian tcohen: yeah, I like that in principle, however if we were to do that, we'd have to use a real queue somewhere so that it can have multiple consumers 03:29 rangi its more that if we overload it, we have to add another status 03:29 tcohen not that I care too much 03:28 tcohen eythian: i always thought we should rename it indexing_queue or something like that 03:28 rangi yep 03:28 Francesca rangi you around? 03:26 eythian wow, slow internet day today 03:26 eythian also, new master packages uploading 03:24 eythian tcohen: don't think I'm going to use the zebraqueue for ES, it'll cause problems if you want it there as a z39.50 server. 03:24 tcohen hi eythian 03:22 eythian tcohen: yo 02:45 * Francesca waves 00:08 dcook Hehe. That's true! 00:08 BobB that's the advice he could have got :) 00:07 dcook Although he might be a bit doomed using CentOS anyway :p 00:07 ibeardslee can wahanui recognise new people and tell them not to be in a rush to expect an immediate response? 00:07 BobB but not from Wahanui :) 00:06 BobB yeah, if he'd stuck around he would got help