Time Nick Message 00:01 wizzyrea if Konika is a fork, that's fine, because they aren't calling it "Koha" 00:02 wizzyrea forks are ok and generally expected, you just can't have a fork and call it "koha" or "KOHA" or "Koha" 00:02 wizzyrea (and expect to get along.) 00:03 * tcohen is launching his own fork 00:03 tcohen Koha-stock 00:04 tcohen heh 00:05 eythian the only patch is the one that changes the name? 00:06 tcohen yeah 00:06 cait Cait-Koha? hmmmm 00:07 eythian cait: just make the package name koha-caitmon 00:08 tcohen hahaha 00:11 cait caitmon? 00:11 cait like a pokemon? 00:12 cait there is a caitmon pokemon. omg 00:13 eythian ahaahaha 00:13 cait it's kinda cute even 00:13 eythian yay, my boss approved attending the elasticsearch training course here next month. 00:13 cait cool :) 00:14 tcohen i'm happy to announce the immediate availability of the best ILS ever: Koha-Stock. The source code can be found here https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/tree/koha_stock 00:14 eythian github. tcohen, you should know better! 00:15 tcohen ah, I should have payed the microsoft repo 00:15 tcohen more professional-ish 00:15 eythian exactly! 00:16 tcohen I announce that it will immediatly be migrated to CVS, the best version control system for the enterprise 00:16 cait lol 00:17 tcohen do you think those sales guys are doing anything different than that? 00:17 eythian eh shoulda never changed from RCS 00:23 bag I have internets!!! 00:28 cait you are only dreaming :P 00:28 eythian must be lunch time 00:43 tcohen bag, it is just a dream 00:43 tcohen wb 00:55 bag ha thanks! 00:55 bag no @laters for me :( (unloved) sniff sniff 01:23 tcohen NIGHT 01:24 indradg khall: happy birthday :) 04:29 eythian so here's a new one. I have this SQL: 04:29 eythian insert into search_marc_to_field(search_marc_map_id, search_field_id) select search_marc_map.id,search_field.id from search_field, search_marc_map, elasticsearch_mapping where elasticsearch_mapping.mapping=search_field.name AND elasticsearch_mapping.marc21=search_marc_map.marc_field AND search_marc_map.marc_type='marc21' AND index_name='biblios'; 04:29 eythian (the details of how it works isn't important) 04:30 eythian if it had the two fields after 'into' in the () reversed, and the two fields after 'select' reversed, it gets the wrong results. 04:30 eythian as though the fields in () don't actually apply. 04:30 eythian that is highly surprising to me 04:32 rangi yeah that is weird 04:35 eythian It's possible I was confused. 04:35 eythian I still might be. 04:35 eythian It's getting hard to tell. 05:37 eythian dac: yo 06:43 reiveune hello 06:43 wahanui hi, reiveune 06:47 * magnuse waves 06:48 magnuse @wunder boo 06:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 06:48 magnuse less than two weeks until summer solstice... 06:49 magnuse hm, how should one say that in a less northern hemisphere-centric way? june solstice? 07:00 alex_a bonjour 07:13 gaetan_B hello 08:02 magnuse https://www.flickr.com/photos/133875209@N08/sets/72157654238168185 + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48K6YR6Pfkg = awesome! let's hope for kohacon in finland one day! 08:03 magnuse hm, that youtube link does not work... 08:12 cait what happened to paul_p's beard? 08:29 ashimema yup.. 08:29 ashimema was about to point out the youtube is broke 08:29 ashimema private 08:29 ashimema looks nice on flickr though 08:39 magnuse yeah, you can tell the pics on flickr are not taken with a phone... 08:40 magnuse cait: paul_p lost the beard some time before he came to trondheim 08:40 cait hmmm 08:40 cait might be hard to track it now, after such a long time 08:41 magnuse track the beard? 08:42 magnuse paul_p? 08:42 wahanui it has been said that paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. 08:42 cait i was trying to joke :) 08:42 magnuse paul_p is also https://www.flickr.com/photos/133875209@N08/18600581601/in/album-72157654238168185/ 08:42 wahanui okay, magnuse. 08:42 magnuse cait: me too 08:56 drojf hi #koha 08:57 cait hi drojf 08:58 drojf morning cait 09:00 magnuse moin drojf 09:00 drojf hei magnuse 11:06 _lds hello 11:06 wahanui bidet, _lds 12:36 tcohen morning 12:42 tcohen @later tell bag please ping me when you are available 12:42 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:42 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina 12:42 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.7°C (9:40 AM ART on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Rising). 12:43 tcohen brrr 12:43 tcohen :-P 12:47 magnuse @wunder boo 12:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 12:47 magnuse tcohen: is that Very Cold for Cordoba? 12:48 tcohen heh 12:48 tcohen it gets colder of course 12:48 tcohen but it is too much for me this mornind :-P 12:52 * magnuse sends tcohen some firewood 12:52 tcohen heh, thanks 13:00 tcohen @later tell marcelr I just noticed that your plugins rewrite makes the tests raise several warnings, could you take a look please? 13:00 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:09 tcohen Joubu: we miss you around 13:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11941: Add link to patron lists from the patron home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27ef1410a7784577149bed6a466937c7ded6ba70> / Bug 14206: Adds test for getletter() call from overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c07f83f643e6b8820d90487a23e91e9b062a5cd6> / Bug 14206: Adds delete function for non email templates <http://git.koha-communit 13:22 kivilahtio does naybody know how to set up hypnotoad as a init-script? 13:23 kivilahtio when running service koha-api-daemon start 13:24 kivilahtio http://pastebin.com/s6gRgzXX 13:25 kivilahtio When running the same command without service I get this patch inside Mojolicious 13:25 kivilahtio /home/koha/kohaclone/api/v1/script.cgi 13:26 kivilahtio When running hypnotoad as service, using service koha-api-daemon start, Mojolicious identifies the path differently 13:26 kivilahtio /api/v1/script.cgi 13:31 tcohen kivilahtio: i'm not following you 13:31 kivilahtio mainly I am trying to create a init-script to start the Koha REST API daemon on boot time 13:32 kivilahtio tcohen: that's what I am up 13:32 kivilahtio tcohen: so if you know anybody who has a init-script to start/stop the koha rest api, let me know 13:32 tcohen kivilahtio: why? 13:32 kivilahtio tcohen: because hwn you boot your server you want mojolicious to boot automatically 13:33 kivilahtio the way to run Mojolicious in production is to reverse proxy to the Mojolicious hypnotoad/starmand server from apache2/nagios 13:33 kivilahtio nagios => nginx 13:35 tcohen kivilahtio: i'm almost finished writing the koha-plack scripts for managing the plack process for each running instance 13:36 kivilahtio tcohen: are you suggesting to run Mojolicious using plack? 13:36 tcohen we should just add an 'api' mount point for the API, and reverse proxy it with whatever we want to show the user 13:37 tcohen http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Cookbook#Plack-middleware 13:37 tcohen why not? 13:39 kivilahtio afaik only hypnotoad supports websockets. Not that we would ever need them ;) 13:39 kivilahtio tcohen: aside of that, I think your suggestion is golden 13:43 kivilahtio tcohen: how do you set up the Perl context for starting plack scripts? 13:44 tcohen It is not ready, but here you can see 13:44 tcohen https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/blob/plack_for_packages/debian/scripts/koha-plack 13:45 tcohen it will be apache 2.4 only 13:45 tcohen and will take advantage of mod_proxy using UDS 13:46 tcohen ah, you are asking how I built the .psgi file, right? 13:47 kivilahtio nope 13:47 kivilahtio I am asking how tu start hypnotoad from an init-script 13:50 tcohen you need to share the pidfile between the tool, and the daemon script 13:57 tcohen @later tell eythian can we have Test::DBIx::Class in the repo? I didn't struggle to build it in your Jessie box and it installed fine on all the supported flavours (12.04,14.04,Wheezy and Jessie) It'd be handy to have developers start using it, and even make it mandatory at some point 13:57 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:17 kivilahtio I solved the problem. The issue was missing $PERL5LIB from the service-script's context. 14:17 kivilahtio all other contexts had it. 14:20 * cait misses Joubu around too 14:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7981: DBRev 3.21.00.008 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d417b9a2ea278ad203beb6e90f7da4d79f487df> / Bug 7981: Reintroduce dropboxdate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f3e11c5bd64f46511d2632b7e9d5862f75b2e25> / Bug 7981: (QA followup) Rename TT vars <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99df63b4b032e526c3a57da316e08d896b68ce00> 14:47 gaetan_B bye 14:56 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:56 mtompset How often do people tend to change their active currency? :) 15:00 tcohen mtompset: never 15:00 tcohen only when they start using the system I guess 15:01 mtompset are their people who actively change it? if so, what is their reasoning? 15:02 tcohen changing it is problematic, because the active one needs an exchange rate of 1.0, so it is not something you frecquently do 15:10 mtompset tcohen: I was just wondering where something like the script I left on bug 11939 might fit in. :) 15:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Stable , Sample of currencies with a working active value 15:14 mtompset Hmmm.... 15:14 * tcohen is reading 15:16 tcohen I think what we need it a way for the ui to recalculate the exchange rates when the user changes the active currency 15:17 tcohen so, instead of a checkbox on the currency itself, you can choose the default on the currencies table, with a simple checkbox 15:17 tcohen and the rest of the currencies are just... recalculated :-D 15:18 tcohen a simple rule of three 15:24 reiveune bye 15:51 indradg @wunder kolkata 15:51 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 26.0°C (9:20 PM IST on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 15:52 indradg @seen tcohen 15:52 huginn indradg: tcohen was last seen in #koha 33 minutes and 59 seconds ago: <tcohen> a simple rule of three 15:54 mtompset simple rule of three? 15:55 mtompset What so do you mean, tcohen? 16:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14029: Provide 'clear' link to empty reports search filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83da81e0ce2116bbcfd6581a58e3f50dbbfcc3f1> / Bug 13336 - Add time to date column for patron circulation history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bba78196d36b80d5f89cff6c86cb842bed6b259b> 16:15 bgkriegel mtompset: "rule of three" if a/b = c/x => x = bc/a 16:22 indradg tcohen++ 16:56 Shane-S Q: anyone have a link to new instructions.. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha says it is obsolete but no link to new instructions and searching for backup on wiki only leads me back to it 17:00 drojf Shane-S: there is a link on the bottom to the commands the debian package provides. if you are using a package installation, backups are automatically done for you. see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restore and the following entries 17:02 Shane-S drojf: thank you 17:02 Shane-S I will SSH and check for /var/spool/koha 17:09 drojf since when does the web installer do the 'checking the mysql database' thing on upgrades? that was confusing, i thought my dev installation had been gone 17:16 mtompset drojf, there is a dependency check that is new. 17:20 drojf mtompset: that is probably a good thing, but i did not expect it and thought it is doing a new installation :) 17:21 mtompset Yes, a bit scary if unexpected. However, I helped test and sign that off. :) 17:28 drojf mtompset++ # testing scary stuff 17:33 indradg @karma 17:33 huginn indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (236), "Joubu" (188), and "tcohen" (187). Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13). You (indradg) are ranked 33 out of 422. 17:33 tcohen kivilahtio: hi 17:33 * indradg waves at tcohen 17:34 tcohen hi indradg 17:34 tcohen kivilahtio: i think we are making things too complicated with the introduction of Hypnotoad 17:35 tcohen i.e. it will delay it way too much (discussions, integration, etc) 17:35 tcohen (even if people agreed I mean, which is not obvious, at all) 17:36 cait i think hypnotoad sounds funny - but kind of scares me a little :) 17:37 tcohen @later tell kivilahtio hypnotoad could be a future improvement 17:37 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14280: Add branches fields to discharges letters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc7b795f840e671e9ed14e2833881d18630e3ce6> 18:09 tcohen bye #koha 19:05 mtompset @karma 19:05 huginn mtompset: Highest karma: "cait" (236), "Joubu" (188), and "tcohen" (187). Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13). You (mtompset) are ranked 20 out of 422. 19:30 Guest1178 @karma 19:30 huginn Guest1178: Highest karma: "cait" (236), "Joubu" (188), and "tcohen" (187). Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13). 19:31 Guest1178 @karma who 19:31 huginn Guest1178: who has neutral karma. 19:31 Guest1178 @karma cait 19:31 huginn Guest1178: Karma for "cait" has been increased 236 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 236. 19:31 cait hm? 19:33 cait @karma IE 19:33 huginn cait: Karma for "IE" has been increased 0 times and decreased 22 times for a total karma of -22. 19:33 pianohacker hi db 19:33 pianohacker @karma i 19:33 huginn pianohacker: i has neutral karma. 19:34 pianohacker i++ 19:35 cait hi pianohacker 19:35 cait :) 19:36 pianohacker hi cait :) 20:08 bag hola 20:08 rangi hi bag 20:08 bag hey rangi 20:09 bag @seen tcohen 20:09 huginn bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 59 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <tcohen> bye #koha 20:09 bag @later tell tcohen - tag you’re it 20:09 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 20:10 bag hey rangi I went to the portland timbers game here in portland on saturday night. Great crowd. loud - tons of chants - singing - all that good football (not-us) stuff 20:11 bag I’m going to enjoy the home team :) (no mlb here - but that’s ok) 20:11 rangi :) 20:21 rangi did i show you the phoenix songs? (the wellington football team) 20:22 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGdYWr9CqUo 20:23 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikLlJGV_Ak <--- and in action 20:26 bag nice 20:28 rangi nothing beats the time we qualified for the world cup in wellington tho :) 20:28 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXpSJTj-X50 20:34 rangi it was too loud for atarau that game, had to cover his ears for most of it 20:35 cait heh 20:54 bag HA 20:55 mtompset ie++ # thank you for dying soon, with windows 10 coming out. :) 20:55 cait hi bag 20:55 bag hey cait 21:16 drojf good night #koha 21:25 cdickinson_ huh 21:25 cdickinson_ forgot to shut down IRC at home 21:26 cdickinson that's better 22:19 eythian hi 22:20 eythian @later tcohen I'll add it to my list, it might take a while though, I'm furiously trying to get some other stuff done and distractions aren't good :) 22:20 huginn eythian: I suck 22:20 eythian @later tell tcohen I'll add it to my list, it might take a while though, I'm furiously trying to get some other stuff done and distractions aren't good :) 22:20 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 23:11 tcohen hi 23:12 tcohen eythian: don't worry about my later, we will reach that point, eventually 23:12 cait hi tcohen 23:12 eythian ok 23:12 tcohen hi cait 23:13 cait hi eythian 23:13 eythian hallo cait 23:15 tcohen hi bag