Time  Nick        Message
00:01 wizzyrea    if Konika is a fork, that's fine, because they aren't calling it "Koha"
00:02 wizzyrea    forks are ok and generally expected, you just can't have a fork and call it "koha" or "KOHA" or "Koha"
00:02 wizzyrea    (and expect to get along.)
00:03 * tcohen    is launching his own fork
00:03 tcohen      Koha-stock
00:04 tcohen      heh
00:05 eythian     the only patch is the one that changes the name?
00:06 tcohen      yeah
00:06 cait        Cait-Koha? hmmmm
00:07 eythian     cait: just make the package name koha-caitmon
00:08 tcohen      hahaha
00:11 cait        caitmon?
00:11 cait        like a pokemon?
00:12 cait        there is a caitmon pokemon. omg
00:13 eythian     ahaahaha
00:13 cait        it's kinda cute even
00:13 eythian     yay, my boss approved attending the elasticsearch training course here next month.
00:13 cait        cool :)
00:14 tcohen      i'm happy to announce the immediate availability of the best ILS ever: Koha-Stock. The source code can be found here https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/tree/koha_stock
00:14 eythian     github. tcohen, you should know better!
00:15 tcohen      ah, I should have payed the microsoft repo
00:15 tcohen      more professional-ish
00:15 eythian     exactly!
00:16 tcohen      I announce that it will immediatly be migrated to CVS, the best version control system for the enterprise
00:16 cait        lol
00:17 tcohen      do you think those sales guys are doing anything different than that?
00:17 eythian     eh shoulda never changed from RCS
00:23 bag         I have internets!!!
00:28 cait        you are only dreaming :P
00:28 eythian     must be lunch time
00:43 tcohen      bag, it is just a dream
00:43 tcohen      wb
00:55 bag         ha thanks!
00:55 bag         no @laters for me :(  (unloved) sniff sniff
01:23 tcohen      NIGHT
01:24 indradg     khall: happy birthday :)
04:29 eythian     so here's a new one. I have this SQL:
04:29 eythian     insert into search_marc_to_field(search_marc_map_id, search_field_id) select search_marc_map.id,search_field.id from search_field, search_marc_map, elasticsearch_mapping where elasticsearch_mapping.mapping=search_field.name AND elasticsearch_mapping.marc21=search_marc_map.marc_field AND search_marc_map.marc_type='marc21' AND index_name='biblios';
04:29 eythian     (the details of how it works isn't important)
04:30 eythian     if it had the two fields after 'into' in the () reversed, and the two fields after 'select' reversed, it gets the wrong results.
04:30 eythian     as though the fields in () don't actually apply.
04:30 eythian     that is highly surprising to me
04:32 rangi       yeah that is weird
04:35 eythian     It's possible I was confused.
04:35 eythian     I still might be.
04:35 eythian     It's getting hard to tell.
05:37 eythian     dac: yo
06:43 reiveune    hello
06:43 wahanui     hi, reiveune
06:47 * magnuse   waves
06:48 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:48 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
06:48 magnuse     less than two weeks until summer solstice...
06:49 magnuse     hm, how should one say that in a less northern hemisphere-centric way? june solstice?
07:00 alex_a      bonjour
07:13 gaetan_B    hello
08:02 magnuse     https://www.flickr.com/photos/133875209@N08/sets/72157654238168185 + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48K6YR6Pfkg = awesome! let's hope for kohacon in finland one day!
08:03 magnuse     hm, that youtube link does not work...
08:12 cait        what happened to paul_p's beard?
08:29 ashimema    yup..
08:29 ashimema    was about to point out the youtube is broke
08:29 ashimema    private
08:29 ashimema    looks nice on flickr though
08:39 magnuse     yeah, you can tell the pics on flickr are not taken with a phone...
08:40 magnuse     cait: paul_p lost the beard some time before he came to trondheim
08:40 cait        hmmm
08:40 cait        might be hard to track it now, after such a long time
08:41 magnuse     track the beard?
08:42 magnuse     paul_p?
08:42 wahanui     it has been said that paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee.
08:42 cait        i was trying to joke :)
08:42 magnuse     paul_p is also https://www.flickr.com/photos/133875209@N08/18600581601/in/album-72157654238168185/
08:42 wahanui     okay, magnuse.
08:42 magnuse     cait: me too
08:56 drojf       hi #koha
08:57 cait        hi drojf
08:58 drojf       morning cait
09:00 magnuse     moin drojf
09:00 drojf       hei magnuse
11:06 _lds        hello
11:06 wahanui     bidet, _lds
12:36 tcohen      morning
12:42 tcohen      @later tell bag please ping me when you are available
12:42 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:42 tcohen      @wunder cordoba argentina
12:42 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.7°C (9:40 AM ART on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
12:43 tcohen      brrr
12:43 tcohen      :-P
12:47 magnuse     @wunder boo
12:47 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
12:47 magnuse     tcohen: is that Very Cold for Cordoba?
12:48 tcohen      heh
12:48 tcohen      it gets colder of course
12:48 tcohen      but it is too much for me this mornind :-P
12:52 * magnuse   sends tcohen some firewood
12:52 tcohen      heh, thanks
13:00 tcohen      @later tell marcelr I just noticed that your plugins rewrite makes the tests raise several warnings, could you take a look please?
13:00 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:09 tcohen      Joubu: we miss you around
13:19 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11941: Add link to patron lists from the patron home page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27ef1410a7784577149bed6a466937c7ded6ba70> / Bug 14206: Adds test for getletter() call from overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c07f83f643e6b8820d90487a23e91e9b062a5cd6> / Bug 14206: Adds delete function for non email templates <http://git.koha-communit
13:22 kivilahtio  does naybody know how to set up hypnotoad as a init-script?
13:23 kivilahtio  when running service koha-api-daemon start
13:24 kivilahtio  http://pastebin.com/s6gRgzXX
13:25 kivilahtio  When running the same command without service I get this patch inside Mojolicious
13:25 kivilahtio  /home/koha/kohaclone/api/v1/script.cgi
13:26 kivilahtio  When running hypnotoad as service, using service koha-api-daemon start, Mojolicious identifies the path differently
13:26 kivilahtio  /api/v1/script.cgi
13:31 tcohen      kivilahtio: i'm not following you
13:31 kivilahtio  mainly I am trying to create a init-script to start the Koha REST API daemon on boot time
13:32 kivilahtio  tcohen: that's what I am up
13:32 kivilahtio  tcohen: so if you know anybody who has a init-script to start/stop the koha rest api, let me know
13:32 tcohen      kivilahtio: why?
13:32 kivilahtio  tcohen: because hwn you boot your server you want mojolicious to boot automatically
13:33 kivilahtio  the way to run Mojolicious in production is to reverse proxy to the Mojolicious hypnotoad/starmand server from apache2/nagios
13:33 kivilahtio  nagios => nginx
13:35 tcohen      kivilahtio: i'm almost finished writing the koha-plack scripts for managing the plack process for each running instance
13:36 kivilahtio  tcohen: are you suggesting to run Mojolicious using plack?
13:36 tcohen      we should just add an 'api' mount point for the API, and reverse proxy it with whatever we want to show the user
13:37 tcohen      http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Cookbook#Plack-middleware
13:37 tcohen      why not?
13:39 kivilahtio  afaik only hypnotoad supports websockets. Not that we would ever need them ;)
13:39 kivilahtio  tcohen: aside of that, I think your suggestion is golden
13:43 kivilahtio  tcohen: how do you set up the Perl context for starting plack scripts?
13:44 tcohen      It is not ready, but here you can see
13:44 tcohen      https://github.com/tomascohen/koha/blob/plack_for_packages/debian/scripts/koha-plack
13:45 tcohen      it will be apache 2.4 only
13:45 tcohen      and will take advantage of mod_proxy using UDS
13:46 tcohen      ah, you are asking how I built the .psgi file, right?
13:47 kivilahtio  nope
13:47 kivilahtio  I am asking how tu start hypnotoad from an init-script
13:50 tcohen      you need to share the pidfile between the tool, and the daemon script
13:57 tcohen      @later tell eythian can we have Test::DBIx::Class in the repo? I didn't struggle to build it in your Jessie box and it installed fine on all the supported flavours (12.04,14.04,Wheezy and Jessie) It'd be handy to have developers start using it, and even make it mandatory at some point
13:57 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:17 kivilahtio  I solved the problem. The issue was missing $PERL5LIB from the service-script's context.
14:17 kivilahtio  all other contexts had it.
14:20 * cait      misses Joubu around too
14:29 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7981: DBRev 3.21.00.008 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d417b9a2ea278ad203beb6e90f7da4d79f487df> / Bug 7981: Reintroduce dropboxdate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f3e11c5bd64f46511d2632b7e9d5862f75b2e25> / Bug 7981: (QA followup) Rename TT vars <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99df63b4b032e526c3a57da316e08d896b68ce00>
14:47 gaetan_B    bye
14:56 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
14:56 mtompset    How often do people tend to change their active currency? :)
15:00 tcohen      mtompset: never
15:00 tcohen      only when they start using the system I guess
15:01 mtompset    are their people who actively change it? if so, what is their reasoning?
15:02 tcohen      changing it is problematic, because the active one needs an exchange rate of 1.0, so it is not something you frecquently do
15:10 mtompset    tcohen: I was just wondering where something like the script I left on bug 11939 might fit in. :)
15:10 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11939 minor, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Stable , Sample of currencies with a working active value
15:14 mtompset    Hmmm....
15:14 * tcohen    is reading
15:16 tcohen      I think what we need it a way for the ui to recalculate the exchange rates when the user changes the active currency
15:17 tcohen      so, instead of a checkbox on the currency itself, you can choose the default on the currencies table, with a simple checkbox
15:17 tcohen      and the rest of the currencies are just... recalculated :-D
15:18 tcohen      a simple rule of three
15:24 reiveune    bye
15:51 indradg     @wunder kolkata
15:51 huginn      indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 26.0°C (9:20 PM IST on June 11, 2015). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
15:52 indradg     @seen tcohen
15:52 huginn      indradg: tcohen was last seen in #koha 33 minutes and 59 seconds ago: <tcohen> a simple rule of three
15:54 mtompset    simple rule of three?
15:55 mtompset    What so do you mean, tcohen?
16:09 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14029: Provide 'clear' link to empty reports search filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83da81e0ce2116bbcfd6581a58e3f50dbbfcc3f1> / Bug 13336 - Add time to date column for patron circulation history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bba78196d36b80d5f89cff6c86cb842bed6b259b>
16:15 bgkriegel   mtompset: "rule of three" if a/b = c/x => x = bc/a
16:22 indradg     tcohen++
16:56 Shane-S     Q: anyone have a link to new instructions.. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Backing_up_Koha says it is obsolete but no link to new instructions and searching for backup on wiki only leads me back to it
17:00 drojf       Shane-S: there is a link on the bottom to the commands the debian package provides. if you are using a package installation, backups are automatically done for you. see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-restore and the following entries
17:02 Shane-S     drojf: thank you
17:02 Shane-S     I will SSH and check for /var/spool/koha
17:09 drojf       since when does the web installer do the 'checking the mysql database' thing on upgrades? that was confusing, i thought my dev installation had been gone
17:16 mtompset    drojf, there is a dependency check that is new.
17:20 drojf       mtompset: that is probably a good thing, but i did not expect it and thought it is doing a new installation :)
17:21 mtompset    Yes, a bit scary if unexpected. However, I helped test and sign that off. :)
17:28 drojf       mtompset++ # testing scary stuff
17:33 indradg     @karma
17:33 huginn      indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (236), "Joubu" (188), and "tcohen" (187).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13).  You (indradg) are ranked 33 out of 422.
17:33 tcohen      kivilahtio: hi
17:33 * indradg   waves at tcohen
17:34 tcohen      hi indradg
17:34 tcohen      kivilahtio: i think we are making things too complicated with the introduction of Hypnotoad
17:35 tcohen      i.e. it will delay it way too much (discussions, integration, etc)
17:35 tcohen      (even if people agreed I mean, which is not obvious, at all)
17:36 cait        i think hypnotoad sounds funny - but kind of scares me a little :)
17:37 tcohen      @later tell kivilahtio hypnotoad could be a future improvement
17:37 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:40 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14280: Add branches fields to discharges letters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc7b795f840e671e9ed14e2833881d18630e3ce6>
18:09 tcohen      bye #koha
19:05 mtompset    @karma
19:05 huginn      mtompset: Highest karma: "cait" (236), "Joubu" (188), and "tcohen" (187).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13).  You (mtompset) are ranked 20 out of 422.
19:30 Guest1178   @karma
19:30 huginn      Guest1178: Highest karma: "cait" (236), "Joubu" (188), and "tcohen" (187).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-22), "MARC" (-15), and "-" (-13).
19:31 Guest1178   @karma who
19:31 huginn      Guest1178: who has neutral karma.
19:31 Guest1178   @karma cait
19:31 huginn      Guest1178: Karma for "cait" has been increased 236 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 236.
19:31 cait        hm?
19:33 cait        @karma IE
19:33 huginn      cait: Karma for "IE" has been increased 0 times and decreased 22 times for a total karma of -22.
19:33 pianohacker hi db
19:33 pianohacker @karma i
19:33 huginn      pianohacker: i has neutral karma.
19:34 pianohacker i++
19:35 cait        hi pianohacker
19:35 cait        :)
19:36 pianohacker hi cait :)
20:08 bag         hola
20:08 rangi       hi bag
20:08 bag         hey rangi
20:09 bag         @seen tcohen
20:09 huginn      bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 59 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <tcohen> bye #koha
20:09 bag         @later tell tcohen - tag you’re it
20:09 huginn      bag: The operation succeeded.
20:10 bag         hey rangi I went to the portland timbers game here in portland on saturday night.  Great crowd.  loud - tons of chants - singing - all that good football (not-us) stuff
20:11 bag         I’m going to enjoy the home team :)  (no mlb here - but that’s ok)
20:11 rangi       :)
20:21 rangi       did i show you the phoenix songs? (the wellington football team)
20:22 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGdYWr9CqUo
20:23 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikLlJGV_Ak  <--- and in action
20:26 bag         nice
20:28 rangi       nothing beats the time we qualified for the world cup in wellington tho :)
20:28 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXpSJTj-X50
20:34 rangi       it was too loud for atarau that game, had to cover his ears for most of it
20:35 cait        heh
20:54 bag         HA
20:55 mtompset    ie++ # thank you for dying soon, with windows 10 coming out. :)
20:55 cait        hi bag
20:55 bag         hey cait
21:16 drojf       good night #koha
21:25 cdickinson_ huh
21:25 cdickinson_ forgot to shut down IRC at home
21:26 cdickinson  that's better
22:19 eythian     hi
22:20 eythian     @later tcohen I'll add it to my list, it might take a while though, I'm furiously trying to get some other stuff done and distractions aren't good :)
22:20 huginn      eythian: I suck
22:20 eythian     @later tell tcohen I'll add it to my list, it might take a while though, I'm furiously trying to get some other stuff done and distractions aren't good :)
22:20 huginn      eythian: The operation succeeded.
23:11 tcohen      hi
23:12 tcohen      eythian: don't worry about my later, we will reach that point, eventually
23:12 cait        hi tcohen
23:12 eythian     ok
23:12 tcohen      hi cait
23:13 cait        hi eythian
23:13 eythian     hallo cait
23:15 tcohen      hi bag