Time Nick Message 00:37 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:37 mtompset @later tell tcohen That PEGI 15 failure reminds me of a timezone issue in the code. I recall finding and fixing it, but I forgot to submit it. :) 00:37 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 00:52 cait hey mtompset 00:52 wahanui rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry 00:52 cait you scared us a bit with that comment 00:52 cait is everything ok? 00:52 mtompset Yes, but I didn't want people to think I was slacking on that bug. :) 00:52 mtompset Well, no, because I'm sure there are going to be huge financial implications as yet to be realized. 00:53 mtompset But yes, everyone is alive and okay. 00:53 mtompset Still a little shaken by it. 00:54 mtompset Annoyed (the person drove off without giving information) and shaken (because getting close calls like that is scary). 00:57 cait :( 00:58 cait hope things will turn out ok 00:59 mtompset I got the license correct 00:59 mtompset So, the police will be following up with the other person at their address. 00:59 mtompset Leaving the scene of an accident does not bode well for them. 01:08 cait aah 01:08 cait good you got the license 01:19 mtompset There... found the PEGI 15 error again. 01:23 cait1 huh 01:25 mtompset The failed tests on U14. 01:25 mtompset I found where they occur again. 01:25 mtompset Don't know if this patch is right, but it will work. :) 01:32 mtompset indradg: Can you test something for me? 01:32 mtompset Start up any koha dev system and just 'prove -v t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t' 01:33 mtompset I believe it should work for you. 01:33 indradg mtompset: checking 01:34 indradg mtompset: yes.. it clears 01:34 mtompset Do you know how to change your timezone to EST/EDT? 01:34 mtompset (i.e. my timezone) 01:36 mtompset I suspect if you change to my timezone and run the same thing it will fail. 01:36 eythian mtompset: you just need to move. 01:36 eythian problem solved. 01:37 mtompset tell that to all the libraries in the wrong time zone. :P 01:40 mtompset bug 13462 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13462 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, I18N system preferences language/opaclanguages descriptions need an update 01:40 mtompset Oops... wrong one. 01:40 mtompset bug 14362 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails 01:41 mtompset And indradg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata 01:42 indradg mtompset: i know how to do that... the only way I can have my servers in US and France show me IST :D 01:43 mtompset I didn't. Just thought I'd share, just in case. :) 01:44 indradg mtompset: yes.. you are right... changed to Eastern time.. and boom! test 7 fails 01:44 mtompset It's something related to Date_to_Days(Today) not account for, or including, timezone. 01:45 indradg hmm 01:49 mtompset That's why I switched it with my own built date, and it works. 02:05 mtj hey eythian, ive noticed that ./debian/build-git-snapshot still uses 'squeeze-dev' as a default distribution... 02:05 mtj squeeze-dev doesnt seem to be a valid value, and create some warnings 02:06 mtj is it a bug, of sorts? 02:08 mtj if someone was attempting to build a 3.18 koha pkg, on deb6 via pbuilder 02:08 mtj ... would 'squeeze-dev' be the best option there... or oldstable? 02:10 mtj i'm kinda thinking 'oldstable' myself... but thought id ask 02:19 mtj would a general default of 'stable' be better than 'squeeze-dev'? 02:25 wizzyrea pretty sure he's got this already in his mind 02:25 wizzyrea one of many things he'd like to do 02:28 mtj hey wizzyrea 02:28 wahanui wizzyrea is silly 02:28 wizzyrea wahanui: forget wizzyrea 02:28 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea 02:30 ibeardslee heh 02:31 mtj no probs, im not quite sure how important the --distro value is at the mo 02:36 mtompset Greetings, mtj wizzyrea ibeardslee 02:37 mtompset I was pondering... is there a nice way to loop through the timezones in perl? 02:39 ibeardslee it's perl, bound to be 02:39 ibeardslee .. well maybe not nice ;) 02:40 ibeardslee our perl guru says 'no, .. what does loop through timezones even mean?' 02:40 * ibeardslee reads through scrollback to get some context 02:43 mtj http://search.cpan.org/dist/DateTime-TimeZone/lib/DateTime/TimeZone.pm#DateTime::TimeZone->all_names 02:44 mtj mtompset: ^ perhaps? 02:45 mtompset it means change the system time to "24" differing timezones and test time related tests again. :) 02:45 mtompset bug 14362 02:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails 02:46 mtompset It would be nice to add some kind of regression test into the mix, not just a testable fix. 02:57 mtj but pass, i dont really understand the Q either 02:58 mtompset right now, if there is a difference in day between your timezone and UTC, the PEGI 15 test will fail. 02:59 mtompset as soon as they are the same day... no issues. 02:59 mtompset I would like to run the pegi 15 test for all 24 major timezones, because regardless of timezone the test shouldn't fail. 03:02 mtompset or "loop through timezones". :) 03:02 mtompset Does that clarify, mtj? 03:04 mtj why not convert your time to UTC-0, before the comparision? 03:05 mtj ah, that wouldnt fix it, for some timezones.. 03:05 mtj hmm, pass, atm 03:08 mtj perhaps the PEGI time needs to be converted to your local timezone 03:10 mtompset No, my patch works. 03:10 mtj ..in the .test.t , before its compared to your local time 03:10 mtompset I just want to have multi-timezone regression testing. 03:11 mtompset kind of hard to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' in a perl script. :) 03:14 mtj sounds awesome, btw ^ 03:15 mtj .. but having the test work for the system's current timezone is probably good enough :) 03:16 mtompset mtj: no, because then it won't catch this error, which I patched. ;) 03:16 mtompset found a nice shell command. 03:16 mtompset timedatectl 03:20 * wizzyrea thought you were talking about flying dinosaurs there for a moment 03:23 mtompset wizzyrea++ # good sense of humour. :) 03:23 mtompset Time::Fake! 03:23 wizzyrea it's really just bad reading comprehension :P 03:24 mtompset +1 for overlapping areas. :) 03:26 mtj mtompset: curious, does the test fail after your patch is applied? 03:26 mtompset No. :) 03:27 mtompset I tested mine (fails without), india and philippines (both successful currently) 03:28 mtj ..ah ok, looks like a well-spotted bug then :0) 03:28 mtompset But it wouldn't always be spotted. 03:29 mtompset It just happened to be one of the failed tests in the latest U14 Jenkins run. 03:29 mtompset I recalled finding and fixing it before. 03:29 mtompset Never submitted the patch. 03:29 mtompset I'm amending the error of my ways. :) 04:00 Francesca sup 04:04 indradg kia ora! 04:04 indradg hi Francesca 04:04 indradg and everyone who is around :) 04:06 indradg hi aleisha 04:06 aleisha hi indradg 04:07 Francesca hi aleisha 04:07 aleisha hiii Francesca 04:07 Francesca hows east? 04:07 aleisha good good, getting pretty busy now 04:08 Francesca I can imagine 04:08 Francesca final year, almost the end of the 2nd term and you're a prefect 04:08 aleisha yeah always a lot to do 04:09 Francesca fun times 04:09 Francesca and on top of all that you play the guitar and sing 04:09 Francesca very impressive 04:11 aleisha haha thanks 04:11 rangi and get on the front page of the paper 04:12 Francesca ohh I didn't know this 04:12 Francesca what was that for? 04:12 Francesca oh wait 04:12 Francesca was that the silicon valley article? 04:12 aleisha no it was for yik yak and things 04:13 Francesca oh yeah I saw that on stuff 04:13 aleisha yeah the video interview was better 04:13 Francesca no but seriously how do you do the guitar thing? 04:13 Francesca I'm learning but I much prefer the piano 04:14 aleisha i dont really know, i just search up songs and hope the chords are ones i already know or are easy to work out haha 04:14 Francesca lol 04:14 Francesca Thats one apprach 04:15 Francesca *approach 04:15 Francesca my friend from uni is teaching me 04:15 Francesca we just kinda jam before lectures 04:15 aleisha that's cool 04:16 Francesca yeah. So are you planning on coming to vic next year? 04:16 aleisha probably yeah 04:16 Francesca cool 04:18 Francesca rangi and co will be surrounded by uni students, you, me and cdikinson if he's still around 04:21 ibeardslee nah, secondary students make better slave labour 04:21 ibeardslee .. oops did I type that out loud 04:22 Francesca yup 04:22 Francesca ibeardslee: you won't be getting rid of me quite so easily 04:23 Francesca even if you so require more slave labour lol 04:37 AmitG hi all 04:45 mtompset mtj: revised tests on that bug. Though, I'm unhappy. It should vary per timezone, you would think. 04:45 mtompset Have a great day, #koha AmitG indradg Francesca aleisha rangi mtj wizzyrea eythian. :) 04:45 wizzyrea later 04:45 Francesca bye 04:46 indradg bye 04:47 AmitG hi indradg 04:47 indradg hi AmitG 04:52 mtj hey indradg, AmitG 04:52 indradg hiya mtj 04:53 mtj aleisha: have you heard Kaki King yet? -> http://www.ted.com/talks/kaki_king_rocks_out_to_pink_noise 04:54 aleisha no i haven't mtj 04:54 aleisha any good? 04:54 mtj 60 secs in... ^ 04:54 AmitG heya mtj 04:55 aleisha i'll have a look when i get home! 04:58 mtj aleisha: i had to have a couple of listens... its pretty weird/challenging stuff 05:00 mtj ..anyhoo, i gotta scoot, ciao 05:03 aleisha bye mtj! 06:24 reiveune hello 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:16 magnuse bonjour, tout le monde! 07:16 magnuse @wunder boo 07:16 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 07:39 gaetan_B hello 07:39 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 09:59 * cait waves 10:00 Francesca sup cait 10:00 cait hi Francesca - still around? :) 10:01 Francesca watching dwts and my laptops still open so yup 10:01 Francesca also I'm being held down by my cat 10:01 cait :) 10:01 Francesca he wants cuddles 10:47 cait morning all :) 10:47 cait hi khall :) 10:47 khall mornin! 10:50 magnuse cait: morning? 10:50 cait i am on vacation :) 10:50 cait mornings are later now 10:50 magnuse lucky you! 11:20 cait hi BobB and viktor 11:21 viktor Hi cait! 11:24 magnuse tjänare viktor 11:24 viktor Hej magnuse! 12:01 barton morning #koha! 12:28 tcohen morning 12:29 tcohen mtompset++ # him+family safe after car accident 12:46 cait morning tcohen 12:46 tcohen hi cait! 13:21 geek_cl hello o/ #koha 14:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14053: DBRev 3.21.00.007 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a215c79cc9ce512eb2994ebfe4bdd07c79fef871> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6017d87f16266e8947b046427537bdcae5a0699> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes - atomicupdates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit 15:27 reiveune bye 15:55 gaetan_B bye 18:04 cait bag: ping? 18:04 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658 18:07 pianohacker cait: I think he's still moving 18:07 cait oh 18:07 cait do you think he reads email? 18:08 pianohacker cait: intermittently yes 18:18 cait we will see :) 18:18 cait pianohacker: what are you wokring on today? :) 18:18 pianohacker cait: raaaaaancor (and miscellaneous bugs). You? 18:18 cait hm no work, vacation 18:18 cait but i might do some fun things later :P 18:19 pianohacker nice 19:23 pianohacker does bug 13068 mean that we no longer add system preferences to sysprefs.sql ourselves? 19:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox 19:25 nengard not feeling too well - moving to other laptop and couch - brb 19:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10355: paramater 'object' lost on the road <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0002126a2ab0ac38a8d3f144f446dc3ba69dab59> / Bug 14344: uninitialized value warning C4/Utils/DataTables/Members.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d82aeb352f35ec37fdd62fed7e9a713168a21c28> 19:43 Ivan hi! 19:44 nengard hello 19:44 wahanui kia ora, nengard 19:45 Ivan Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values 19:46 Ivan Hi! 20:13 Ivan hello! 20:14 rangi morning 20:15 Ivan Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values 20:27 pianohacker Ivan: could you clarify a bit? 20:28 Ivan ok 20:28 Ivan i have a asystem koha 20:29 pianohacker cait: Do you remember how we were talking about adding a syspref to enable Rancor? I put it on an "Experimental features" tab, and that name wraps to two lines. I had the idea to call the tab "Labs" (a la Gmail) instead. Thoughts? 20:29 cait ew 20:29 cait not ew in a bad way, just no idea :) 20:30 cait labs sounds kind of ok to me 20:30 cait maybe a question of how much we want it to stand out 20:30 cait separate tab or put it on tha cataloguing tab 20:32 pianohacker cait: I think this is a good tab to have; back when granular permissions were optional, I feel like they would have gone here. But on the other hand, the tab would be pretty empty 20:33 cait it would highlight features 20:33 cait can be a positive thing too 20:33 cait it's really just a question of how much we want to highlight it maybe 20:34 pianohacker kk. I'll change the name to Labs (with a helpful tag) and let tomas decide on the highlighting front 21:06 wizzyrea pianohacker: maybe just "experimental" 21:43 Ivan Sorry 21:43 Ivan i have collection 21:45 Ivan i cant search by collection 21:45 Ivan ccode 21:51 cait Ivan: what are you trying to do? 21:51 cait does the collection search not show up in your advanced search? 21:52 Ivan Search by collection Advanced search 21:52 cait take a look at administration> system preferences > AdvancedSearchTypes 21:53 cait make sure that you have something like itemtypes|ccode in there 21:53 cait and then check the advanced search again 21:53 Ivan But does not show anything, I have authorized ccode values, and when I try to make a search does not show results 21:54 cait do the search options show up, but you get no results? 21:54 Ivan In the system of preferences if I have enabled if it shows me, but when I make the search does not show me anything 21:55 cait ok, and you have an item that has the collection applied to it? 21:55 cait is your search in general working correctly? 21:55 Ivan A search does not show results :( 21:56 Ivan }Use CCODE and general search is done correctly 21:57 cait it#s hard to tell what's going wrong 21:57 cait did you manually catalog the items? 21:57 cait how do your authorised value codes look like? 22:00 Ivan If you realize manually, the codes are as follows: AC AR CD CYT CPC CSC CRIL GBC GIS INI IDC INT IR 22:00 cait hm they look ok 22:00 cait and you got the same in the itmes, right? 22:01 cait didyou import them or catalog them inside of koha? 22:03 Ivan I do not remember if I have the same in the items 22:04 Ivan You mean the items that appear in the OPAC in advanced search, if so, if I have the same 22:07 cait Ivan: sorry, running out of ideas 22:07 cait i'd try and manually catalog a new record with an item that has one of the collections - try to see if that works 22:08 Ivan ok, 22:10 Ivan What I really want is to search by collection, not if it's something of the query in the database. 22:10 cait it should work out of the box 22:10 cait there is nothing to set up 22:10 cait there must be a problem with indexing or your data in your installation - but it's hard to figure it out 22:12 Ivan But only it occurs with collections, general search this correctly. 22:30 eythian hi 22:35 cait so what does sound better: average loan time OR average checkout period ? 22:35 rangi the first to me 22:35 cait i should have gussed - yo udon't like checkout 22:38 eythian cait: they sounds like two different things 22:38 eythian well, potentially 22:39 eythian the first sounds less ambiguous, anyway 22:39 cait it's a report we have 22:39 cait the first is what we list it on the reports page 22:39 cait the second is the heading shown on the page itself.. 22:39 eythian to me the checkout period sounds more like the number of days you have to return it from issue, rather than the amount of time it was actually out 22:39 cait i am having a look at bug 13452 22:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13452 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Average checkout report always uses biblioitems.itemtype 22:40 eythian sure, I'm just picking on the language :) 23:46 cait this script makes me cry. 23:47 cait the average chekout time thing only works if you have a circulation condition with no wildcards 23:47 cait so exact library, patron category and itype 23:48 eythian ick 23:58 cait hm... but i am not sur what it uses issuelength for actually.... 23:58 cait there are some weird things going oin there 23:58 cait but it does get the issuelength from the issuingrules... just not sure what for