Time  Nick        Message
00:28 eythian     https://about.gitlab.com/better-than-github/ <-- interesting
01:43 rangi       oh hey look
01:43 rangi       https://git.nzoss.org.nz/users/sign_in
01:43 mtj         hey #koha
01:44 mtj         woo!, that looks promising rangi.. ^
01:54 mtj         re: ALIADA, is there some horrible catch to it?
01:55 rangi       naw, looks good
01:55 rangi       just KOHA always annoys me
01:55 mtj         this seems impressive (to me) -> http://lod-cloud.net/versions/2014-08-30/lod-cloud.svg
01:55 mtj         aah, gotcha
01:56 rangi       yeah i think it would be a fun thing to play with
01:58 mtj         its blowing my mind
02:02 rangi       hey tcohen
02:04 tcohen      hi
02:04 wahanui     bidet, tcohen
02:16 tcohen      hi rangi
02:18 eythian     hi tcohen
02:25 * eythian   just fixed a big parsing thing by replacing a + with a .
02:25 eythian     it's always the little things...
02:31 tcohen      ah?
02:31 wahanui     i think ah is ?
02:35 tcohen      eythian: javascript <-> perl context switch problem?
02:35 eythian     tcohen: no, I think just brainfart. Also, it was concatenating two variables, which is rarer with strings in general.
02:39 tcohen      are you talking about Koha?
02:39 tcohen      :-D
02:39 * tcohen    is trying to figure what are you working on
02:39 eythian     tcohen: yeah, ES stuff.
02:41 * tcohen    grumbles
02:42 eythian     tcohen: it's not all bad, you have your server back
02:42 tcohen      it seems Koha::Config::SysPrefs broke install-requirement detection heh
02:42 tcohen      yeah i read that, thanks eythian
02:43 tcohen      the problem with jenkins is that each time a task is created it tries to clone the whole repo, and it takes more than some java timeout
02:43 rangi       yeah
02:43 rangi       10 mins
02:43 tcohen      so it leaves lots of wasted space
02:43 tcohen      yeaj
02:43 eythian     ah right
02:43 tcohen      "DBIx::Class::ResultSet::find(): Table 'koha_kohadev.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/Koha/Objects.pm line 85
02:43 tcohen      "
02:44 rangi       heh, not much is going to work without that table
02:44 tcohen      @later tell khall I hope you have some time to talk about how we'll fix some issues caused by Koha::Config::SysPrefs, it should be easy, though
02:44 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
02:45 tcohen      some eval+fallback-to-install missing
02:45 tcohen      *needs a change
02:45 tcohen      night everyone
02:45 tcohen      and thanks gmcharlt for the pointer
03:00 mtj         i recently bumped into this patch,  bug 10337
03:01 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , UT: The unit tests cannot be launched by everyone
03:03 mtj         ..it seems to be another nice way to test a koha db
03:04 mtj         and test a bunch of other things, at the same time
03:16 mtj         i wonder if the jenkins git-clone step could be speed-up using a tmpfs (or ramfs?) filesystem?
03:19 rangi       naw its not the disk write
03:19 rangi       its the gitserver
03:19 rangi       thats the slow bit
03:54 mtj         ah, ok
04:04 AmitG       hi
04:04 AmitG       all
06:25 reiveune    hello
06:58 fridolin    hie
07:01 alex_a      bonjour
07:01 wahanui     what's up, alex_a
07:26 marcelr     hi #koha
07:29 gaetan_B    hello
09:24 cait        @later tell tcohen the bug batch edit is done - was careful with the more recent ones, maybe we can do another 'resolved fixed' run half time into the release
09:24 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
10:21 xarragon    Is there no way in Koha to simply list all entries in the catalogue?
10:21 xarragon    Except for searching, I mean?
10:53 khall       mornin!
10:53 AmitG       hi khall
11:13 xarragon    At present my Zebra search is offline and I am testing lost fee's, needing to open up an entry and edit it.. Right now I am using the mysql client to get the barcode ID's which can be entered into the checkout directly..
11:13 xarragon    But I expected there to be some simple listing, like an SQL frontend?
11:14 xarragon    Ehr, it is spelled 'fees', my bad.
11:40 cait        xarragon: you could write yourself an sql report
11:41 cait        that would be an sql frontend ;)
11:41 cait        sql library?
11:41 cait        reports library?
11:41 wahanui     rumour has it reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
11:43 xarragon    cait: Yeah, Viktor suggested that to me. And I guess it is pretty much the same as the mysql client.
11:43 cait        kind of, it only allows selects
11:44 xarragon    Well in my case it is just a stopgap measure until I get search running again.
11:45 xarragon    I was just a bit surprised that there was no list function.. But I guess it is simply not needed; the existing functions handles it.
11:47 cait        in nomral circumstances zebra is there to take care of it
11:47 cait        and the sql reports are super flexible
12:49 tcohen      morning!
12:50 khall       mornin tcohen!
12:51 tcohen      hi khall
12:51 tcohen      khall: it seems we broke the installer :-D
12:51 khall       doh!
12:52 tcohen      heh
12:52 khall       tcohen: what can I do to help? What would you like me to look at?
12:53 tcohen      it'd be great that you looked at why t/db_dependent/Context.t is failing
12:53 tcohen      there might be a clue there
12:53 tcohen      some API change
12:55 tcohen      @later tell mtompset I think we should be careful removing the transaction from files in t/db_dependent
12:55 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:57 khall       tcohen: will do!
13:12 pastebot    "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "khall: look" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/133
13:13 khall       what's that for? Are there cases where find breaks?
13:13 tcohen      it makes the installer work again
13:13 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
13:13 khall       excellent!
13:13 tcohen      running through it so I can try the tests
13:14 khall       Ahh, I get it not.
13:14 khall       s/not/now
13:14 mtompset    tcohen: What do you mean 'I think we should be careful removing the transaction from files in t/db_dependent'?
13:14 mtompset    And khall ... I'm looking at bug 14338 and I can't duplicate your problem under Debian Jessie.
13:14 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14338 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unable to delete patron images
13:15 mtompset    That is, the picture deletes for me.
13:15 tcohen      i think we shouldn't spend time in deleting code related to transactions from db_dependent tests
13:15 mtompset    This isn't deleting... it's replacing.
13:15 khall       mtompset: that's odd, I should restest.
13:15 khall       It shouldn't matter what Debian version your on
13:17 mtompset    And it is better to do it sooner, rather than when "oops, it is really broken."
13:17 mtompset    khall: Just given you an idea of which perl and setup I have. :)
13:17 mtompset    ^given^giving^
13:17 khall       gotcha
13:18 mtompset    Because some of the noise in the tests lately have only been noticable in Perl 5.20's CGI.
13:23 mtompset    So, tcohen, you are suggesting no more test tweaks on bug 14334?
13:23 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14334 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , DBI fighting DBIx over Autocommit in tests
13:23 tcohen      i'm not sure you can infere that assertion from my comment
13:25 mtompset    Are you suggesting some of the tweaks are wrong?
13:25 tcohen      i'm not sure 'wrong' is the right word
13:25 mtompset    Or that I should investigate the non db_dependent tests first?
13:26 tcohen      "I think we should be careful removing the transaction from files in t/db_dependent"
13:26 mtompset    you would prefer the $dbh->{AutoCommit} lines should be left in?
13:26 mtompset    ^should^^
13:26 tcohen      you suggested that some test files had transaction bolierplate on them, but they *looked like* they don't need it
13:27 tcohen      i'm saying fix them, don't remove the boilerplate
13:27 mtompset    That's true.
13:27 xarragon    So how am I supposed to handle zebra on a debian dev installation, anyway?
13:27 mtompset    AH....
13:27 xarragon    I see that there are some debian-specific scripts for named zebra instances etc.
13:28 mtompset    This is with respect to comments 6, 7!
13:29 mtompset    What about comment 11?
13:32 * tcohen    hasn't read most of the comments, just noticed that on his inbox
13:35 tcohen      mtompset: focus on the change that needs to be made. If you feel a file could be improved, discuss it on a separate bug, because otherwise you will block the needed fix with the refusal from the QA team to accept the change, etc
13:35 tcohen      also, we could have a big patch. right?
13:35 tcohen      I let that to the QA team to suggest it if they feel like
13:35 mtompset    I'll turn it to a big patch at the end, sure.
13:36 mtompset    I was doing small ones so you could grab the ones you wanted. :)
13:37 tcohen      thanks :-d
13:42 khall       tcohen: I've got a handle on how to fix  Context.t, working on it now
13:42 tcohen      khall: awesome.
13:42 wahanui     That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen
13:43 * tcohen    is fighting with a regression test for bug 14339
13:43 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14339 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Installer broken by bug 13967
13:45 cait        xarragon: the debian scripts don't work on a dev install
13:45 cait        xarragon: i believe there are still instructions to use without packageson the wiki
13:52 khall       tcohen: success! Where should I post the patch for Context.t?
13:52 tcohen      new bug
13:53 khall       can do!
13:56 * mtompset  has a bad cold. I'm going to rest for a while.
13:56 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha khall tcohen
13:56 khall       bye!
14:00 khall       tcohen: bug 14342
14:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14342 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit tests in t/db_dependent/Context.t failing due to Bug 13967
14:00 tcohen      YAY!
14:01 * tcohen    hates t/Context.t
14:01 tcohen      a lot
14:02 fridolin    see u
14:02 khall       indeed, it should be done away with over time
14:08 khall       we should eventually be able to move syspref caching directly into the SysPref objects
14:15 tcohen      ok, my patch is attached too
14:15 tcohen      will now test yours
14:21 achylles    I am trying to remove a instance from koha, using koha-remove instance command-line, but it is not working. Where is the folder/file I can remove that?
14:21 achylles    I am using ubuntu
14:22 tcohen      "not working" seems to cague
14:22 tcohen      vague
14:24 achylles    koha-remove biblioteca_vl  Removing Koha instance biblioteca_vl  Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf   Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted
14:25 tcohen      podrĂ­as probar koha-remove --keep-mysal biblioteca_vl
14:26 tcohen      s/mysal/mysql/
14:26 achylles    I want to remove this instance, so that it does not appear on my lightdm login screen
14:27 achylles    what is mysal
14:27 achylles    ?
14:27 achylles    ok
14:27 achylles    mysql
14:28 achylles    but I do not want to keep it
14:28 achylles    I want to totally remove it
14:28 tcohen      achylles: are you running koha-remove with the root user? otherwise you should use sudo
14:29 achylles    sudo koha-remove biblioteca_vl
14:30 achylles    Removing Koha instance biblioteca_vl
14:30 achylles    ERROR 1470 (HY000) at line 1: String 'koha_biblioteca_vl' is too long for user name (should be no longer than 16)
14:31 achylles    It says that cannot remove, because the name is too long...    :(
14:33 achylles    biblioteca_vl   folder is located in /etc/koha/sites
14:33 tcohen      sudo deluser biblioteca_vl-koha ; rm -rf /etc/koha/sites/biblioteva_vl
14:41 achylles    tcohen, thx for the command they worked fine. The only thing that I added was another sudo before rm   :)
14:41 tcohen      ah, yes. i missed it. good catch
14:43 achylles    Now, how can I add a z39.50 University server in my country to Koha > http://www.sibi.usp.br/
14:44 achylles    I know that they use z39.50 protocol...
14:44 achylles    usp stands for University of Sao Paulo
14:47 tcohen      achylles: have you read the manual?
14:48 tcohen      that's the first step
14:48 tcohen      otherwise you will end up asking too general questions
14:48 tcohen      more suitable fr a support company / helpdesk
14:49 tcohen      achylles: still here?
14:49 wahanui     here is where I work
14:49 tcohen      http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/pt-BR/
14:50 tcohen      lunch time
14:50 achylles    I mean I know how to add it. But, have not found z39.50 address for that University  :(
14:54 tcohen      you ned to ask them
14:54 tcohen      i'm from argentina, know nothing about brazilian servers
14:57 achylles    Ok. I already have sent an email to them asking their z39.50 address. Waiting...
14:59 geek_cl     tcohen, the hackfest will be in Buenos Aires ?
15:00 tcohen      geek_cl: indeed
15:00 geek_cl     nice
15:01 tcohen      will you attend?
15:01 geek_cl     tcohen, yes!, in fact, i send the email already,
15:01 * tcohen    verifies
15:02 tcohen      got it :-D
15:02 tcohen      that's really nice to hear
15:02 geek_cl     there are some hotel with discount for the event ?
15:03 tcohen      geek_cl: i don't think so
15:03 geek_cl     OK
15:03 tcohen      i mean, we didn't have the time to think about it
15:06 reiveune    bye
15:07 tcohen      cait: will you join us?
15:07 tcohen      please?
15:07 tcohen      :-D
15:07 geek_cl     maybe we can get a group discount
15:07 cait        I'd love to
15:08 tcohen      please please?
15:08 cait        hopefully some next time
15:08 tcohen      geek_cl: once we have the people list we could try to put you all in contact
15:08 cait        the flights are pretty expensive for a short visit
15:08 * geek_cl   cool!
15:09 tcohen      cait: so you think we don't deserve your presence
15:10 cait        tcohen: don't get mean
15:10 tcohen      =D
15:22 tcohen      cait: 14039
15:22 cait        yes?
15:23 tcohen      do u think we could put that kind of "enhancements" inside a span so people can keep the old behaviour?
15:23 tcohen      what's been the tradition about it?
15:24 cait        hm there is not really a tradition
15:24 cait        but a psan never hurts
15:24 cait        also... this include migh be used in moreplaces
15:25 tcohen      in several, yes
15:27 cait        tcohen: i thik a span with an id would make a lot of sense then
15:27 cait        also - is there a warning in the logs when the variable is not set? wonder if we should add an if
15:29 tcohen      cait: you mean it introduces a warning?
15:29 cait        i don't know
15:29 cait        but easy to check
15:29 tcohen      ah, I get it
15:30 tcohen      will put it in my fail-qa message
15:30 cait        it might not
15:30 cait        there would be more then i guess hm.
15:34 tcohen      can anyone QA on major bugs ?
15:34 cait        i can look at osme things laer tonight
15:34 cait        something specific?
15:35 tcohen      14342 and 14339 please
15:35 wahanui     28681
15:39 cait        bug 14342
15:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14342 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Unit tests in t/db_dependent/Context.t failing due to Bug 13967
15:40 cait        bug 14339
15:40 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14339 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Installer broken by bug 13967
15:40 cait        hm i can try
15:40 tcohen      both are simple
15:50 mtompset    Greetings, #koha. So much for sleeping. The call to bug fix is too strong.
15:50 mtompset    khall: you around?
15:50 mtompset    @seen khall
15:50 huginn      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 42 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <khall> we should eventually be able to move syspref caching directly into the SysPref objects
15:51 mtompset    Oooo that would be good.
15:52 mtompset    @later tell khall I was testing bug 14318 for the idreambooks, and noticed the isbn had a ; on the end of it. Different bug? Or can a little scope creep be done? ;)
15:52 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
16:04 gaetan_B    bye
16:07 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14276: Keep highlight on the active item in item editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83c6817a86de68fb08cb73aef3b8b46d12587116> / Bug 14173: Paging on 'recent comments' page in OPAC is not displaying correctly <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7928cdfbd405de9d4a8fffc535d3dcbd9a95226c> / Bug 10824: OAI-PMH repository/server not handling time in 'until' and
16:30 mtompset    Nevermind, bug 14345. :)
16:30 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14345 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , parsed isbn has semi-colon fails to nicely link for idreambooks
17:37 mydsls      hi we want to create message that - Please confirm checkout - Item the hobbit (11606)  was prevoiusly checked out to this patron?
17:37 mydsls      can anyon ehelp?
17:39 mydsls      hi indradg
17:40 indradg     mydsls hiya!
17:40 mydsls      hi we want to create message that - Please confirm checkout - Item the hobbit (11606)  was prevoiusly checked out to this patron?
17:42 indradg     mydsls: explain the flow?
17:50 mydsls      when you hit checkout button it should check list of circulation history and if that record exist in circulation history then it should prevent or ask librarian to confirm checkout
17:50 mydsls      sorry for late reply
17:51 mtompset    But what is the reason for doing that? So what if the person had it checked out before?
17:51 mtompset    You can only check things out once?
17:53 mtompset    What is the business rule that you are trying to implement?
17:54 mydsls      borrowers got books checkout which has been already read by them and when they start reading then realises ohh we took book we have already read
17:55 mydsls      i'm new to programming  and i really dont know how to do it even i dont know how to write the code
17:56 mydsls      but intrested to customise koha as per my requirement
17:58 mtompset    mydsls: Why don't the librarians while checking out go to the circulation tab for the user, scan for the item using the search filter feature there....
17:59 mtompset    and then casually comment, "Oh, you must have enjoyed reading this earlier,"
17:59 mtompset    as they go back to the circulation tab, and actually check out the item.
18:01 mydsls      it also good idea
18:26 * mydsls    slaps nengard_webinar around a bit with a large fishbot
19:13 tcohen      bye #koha
19:19 nengard     why am i being slapped?
19:19 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10938: Item columns displayed in random order - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a02cf9b48685d3b71397f86a862b2d7535a68b6> / Bug 10938: Item columns displayed in random order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b554d1a86291b77f8ab161b8ae01fe1e806aff1> / Bug 7976: DBRev 3.21.00.006 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25caeacae
19:20 pianohacker nengard: no idea :P
19:20 nengard     pianohacker hmmmm
20:15 pianohacker @later tell magnuse Could I ask you to take a quick look at my latest comment on bug 11211 (http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211#c51)? Thanks!
20:15 huginn      pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
20:15 huginn      04Bug 11211: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
22:36 mtompset    Greetings, barton. Shall I call you "the optimizer"? :)
23:35 mtompset    xarragon: Please look at bug 14246 again.
23:35 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14246 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, xarragon, ASSIGNED , Add borrowernumber to koha_news
23:35 mtompset    And while you are at it, please squash it all.