Time  Nick          Message
00:18 tcohen        hi #koha
00:18 dcook         heya tcohen
00:19 tcohen        hey dcook
00:19 tcohen        wizzyrea: I didn't find how to change the community homepage to link to 3.20
00:19 * tcohen      tried
00:28 indradg       hi tcohen
00:34 wizzyrea      Aha
00:34 wizzyrea      right ok
00:36 wizzyrea      @later tell tcohen that should be fixed now - if you catch me some day I'll show you where it is
00:36 huginn        wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
00:43 wizzyrea      also, general reminder to file bugs on bugzilla under the "websites" component if you spot things you'd like me to look at.
00:44 wizzyrea      @later tell tcohen also, at your (soonish) leisure, please push 14255 so I can finally make the website history automatic :)
00:44 huginn        wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
00:58 wizzyrea      note to self to revisit 13143
01:06 mtj           hey #koha can anyone remember how to do an RPN query, via yazclient?
01:06 mtj           rpn, looks like this btw..
01:06 mtj           @attr 2=3 @attr 4=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 1=title "a"
01:07 mtj           ..i can see a bunch of rpn commands in my zebrasrv log, and i want to test some of them via yazclient
01:08 dcook         mtj: What's the question?
01:08 wahanui       i guess the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
01:09 dcook         find @attr 2=3 @attr 4=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 1=4 "a"
01:09 dcook         That'll do it
01:09 mtj           too easy, ts
01:09 mtj           ta
01:09 dcook         I think you might be able to use 1=title, if you point yaz-client to your Koha ccl.properties file
01:09 dcook         np
01:09 dcook         Hmm 897$%... that looks a bit odd
02:23 * Francesca   waves
02:23 dcook         Arg...
02:23 dcook         hey Francesca
02:23 wahanui       I love the 11th doctor!
02:23 * dcook       tries to recall how to handle 0 so it's true..
02:24 eythian       context?
02:24 wahanui       context is everything?
02:24 Francesca     lol
02:24 dcook         I'm checking to see if there is a value in $variable, but it's failing because it's 0
02:24 dcook         I could just check if it's defined, but..
02:24 eythian       defined()
02:25 dcook         I suppose that should work
02:25 eythian       that is its job
02:25 dcook         Yeah, I feel like we've had this conversation before a few months ago
02:26 dcook         I remember there being something interesting with one..
02:26 eythian       you can also use // if appropriate.
02:26 dcook         Nah, not appropriate in this case
02:26 dcook         Ah, exists() is the interesting one
02:26 eythian       deprecated for things that aren't hash elements, IIRC.
02:26 dcook         So  your variable might be null, but because it was defined once upon a time exists() will still return true me thinks
02:27 dcook         eythian: which?
02:27 wahanui       which is irritating in its own way
02:27 eythian       exists
02:27 dcook         Yeah that sounds familiar
02:27 eythian       never use it except on a hash
02:27 dcook         Hmm, the documentation says arrays too
02:27 dcook         Ah wait
02:27 dcook         nevermind
02:27 eythian       what purpose would it serve on an array?
02:28 dcook         Good question
02:28 eythian       >  Be aware that calling exists on array values is deprecated and likely to be removed in a future version of Perl.
02:28 dcook         Yeah, I saw that after reading the first line :p
02:42 dcook         Hmm I wonder why we even have "link" in marc_subfield_structure
02:42 * dcook       thinks perhaps this is a legacy column..
02:50 * Francesca   waves at aleisha
02:50 aleisha       hi Francesca
02:50 Francesca     hows it going?
02:56 aleisha       good, you?
03:08 Francesca     busy with uni and orpheus at all that stuff but good
03:14 aleisha       nice nice
03:15 eythian       @later tell cait while rearranging my desk, I found a return ticket for travel between Mannheim and Konstanz on it.
03:15 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
03:36 eythian       3.18.7 packages uploading
04:04 indradg       eythian++  that was fast :)
04:04 eythian       :)
04:05 indradg       eythian: I've sent a pull request to mkfifo/koha-gitify for the 2.4 403 issue
04:05 eythian       cool
04:05 wizzyrea      https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues/13 < had you seen this indradg
04:06 wizzyrea      that's probably what you want to link your pull request to.
04:12 indradg       thanks wizzyrea :) i had missed doing that (read as: didn't know :P)
04:13 wizzyrea      :) sok, you were probably writing the patch as I was filing the bug
04:23 indradg       yes.. couldn't help but remember how much time I wasted by missing that section in the wiki about the 403. I had it locally patched. And when you mentioned about it, i was like why not
04:35 wizzyrea      I had the good fortune of clicking on the link to the official "Upgrading to 2.4" document from Apache. It wasn't in the actual document, but the solution was in the first comment!
04:41 dcook         Hmm... looks like ./installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/mandatory/marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql might be missing some subfields?
04:41 dcook         Or maybe I'm crazy
04:42 dcook         Actually, I'm probably crazy
04:42 dcook         Yes
04:42 dcook         Definitely crazy
04:42 dcook         Or rather whoever worked on this framework was crazy..
04:43 wizzyrea      what are you finding crazy?
04:43 dcook         Oh, just extra fields in the 264
04:43 dcook         Someone just copied over all the fields from the 260 even though they don't exist in the 264
04:44 dcook         Just updating frameworks and wondering what was going on there
04:44 dcook         I shouldn't have doubted Bernardo :p
05:05 dcook         Hmm...
05:05 dcook         I wonder why 952$j has an authorised_value of "STACK"
05:06 dcook         I don't see an actual authorised value called STACK...
05:25 Francesca     good evening
06:22 * magnuse     waves
06:22 magnuse       @wunder boo
06:22 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 9.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
06:45 reiveune      hello
06:51 magnuse       bonjour reiveune
06:51 reiveune      salut magnuse :)
06:52 indradg       @wunder kolkata
06:52 huginn        indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 37.0°C (12:20 PM IST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
07:00 alex_a        bonjour
07:20 gaetan_B      hello
08:09 Joubu         Hello #koha
08:12 magnuse       bonjour Joubu
09:03 drojf         hi #koha
09:08 magnuse       moin drojf
09:09 drojf         hei magnuse
09:46 drojf         if i want to make changes to the koha-conf.xml defaults, should i edit koha-conf-site.xml.in or is there a better way to do it?
09:48 drojf         i mean for local installation, not in a patch
10:53 magnuse       drojf: you want your changes to propagate to all new sites you create?
10:54 drojf         magnuse: yes
10:55 magnuse       then changing debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in sounds like the way to go
11:40 indradg       kia ora #koha
11:43 magnuse       hiya indradg
11:43 indradg       hi magnuse
11:43 indradg       @wunder
11:43 huginn        indradg: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
11:44 indradg       @wunder kolkata
11:44 huginn        indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 35.0°C (4:50 PM IST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
11:47 magnuse       @wunder boo
11:47 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
11:47 magnuse       double digits!
12:13 mveron        Hi #koha
12:41 tcohen        morning!
12:52 tcohen        wizzyrea++
14:04 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12160: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73d9706667c3e1574c0b19009f4dc4e02c4c65e2> / Bug 12160: Rename opacuserjs with OPACUserJS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b0792584ef8d75073ce26c6f496abbe2e80bd9d> / Bug 12160: Rename intranetuserjs with IntranetUserJS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=767edc6bb9385d63a
14:09 Joubu         tcohen: Hi Tomas! Have you seen my comment on bug 14207?
14:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14207 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.fiol, Needs Signoff , Improving circulation performance by caching yaml file
14:09 tcohen        hi Joubu, i saw it on my inbox, didn't reach it yet
14:10 tcohen        i see
14:11 tcohen        I think we could restart memcached on upgrade
14:11 Joubu         tcohen: I suppose sysop using memcache restart it
14:11 tcohen        we do
14:11 Joubu         otherwise, a lot of weird behavior could happend
14:12 Joubu         ok, so let's say sysop are careful
14:12 Joubu         don't they? :)
14:16 tcohen        they are, always, of course :-D
14:30 bgkriegel     Hi!
14:31 bgkriegel     Question: on Reports > Average loan time, did you see something on Sort1 and Sort2 dropdowns? (I get a list of numbers!)
14:31 nengard       I just did a pull on koha and can't upgrade because it says I don't have dependencies installed - but it's the entire list of dependencies and I do have them installed ... ideas?
14:33 bgkriegel     nengard: What you get from "perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u" ?
14:33 nengard       huh -- i get that all modules are missing ... but that makes no sense
14:33 nengard       I had a working Koha install last week
14:34 nengard       before this pull
14:34 pastebot      "nengard" at pasted "perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u" (149 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/118
14:35 pastebot      "nengard" at pasted "cpan Biblio::EndnoteStyle" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/119
14:38 tcohen        nengard: master is broken
14:39 tcohen        because of 6679 patches i think
14:39 nengard       oh! Well that's good to know
14:39 nengard       is there a patch I can revert or a way I can get it back to working?
14:40 tcohen        give me some minutes i'll try to figure what the problem is
14:44 nengard       thanks tcohen
14:48 tcohen        git revert 2ee1a35dfa91892474a7d10f8783dd95edbe7696
14:50 reiveune      bye
14:55 tcohen        nengard: not enough :/
14:56 nengard       k - didn't do it yet
14:58 tcohen        Joubu: have you seen 6679?
15:00 Joubu         tcohen: yes, I have signed if off :)
15:01 Joubu         tcohen: does it break something?
15:01 tcohen        rephrase: have you seen that it completely breaks Koha?
15:01 tcohen        :-D
15:01 tcohen        heh
15:03 nengard_phone completely! can't use it at all :(
15:05 Viktor        On a side note: Would the same patron having different categorys for different branches obviously be a dangerous idea?
15:05 khall         how did that not happen for me during qa!?!
15:07 tcohen        maybe because of a perl version change between ?
15:07 tcohen        eval has been known for behaviour change
15:09 tcohen        oh, I see
15:09 tcohen        "eval $x;" doesn't have the same semantics of eval { $x };
15:10 khall         yep
15:11 tcohen        ok
15:12 * tcohen      is not sure how to fix it and pass critic
15:13 khall         me neither, reading PBP right now
15:13 tcohen        (without rewriting it all of course heh)
15:19 khall         tcohen: it has to do with efficiency and it's not like we need this but of code to be very efficient, however from all my reading it should be working : \
15:19 tcohen        the problem is that eval { $x } just returns $x, right?
15:19 tcohen        it doesn't take it as a sub
15:20 tcohen        http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/eval.html
15:20 khall         right, but we aren't just evaluating a variable
15:20 tcohen        originally, is case 1; with the patch is case 4
15:20 khall         we are evaluating a require
15:20 pianohacker   khall: context?
15:20 wahanui       context is probably everything?
15:20 khall         pianohacker: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39395&action=diff
15:21 khall         this patch has borked the installer
15:21 tcohen        search for "With an eval, you should be" on the page i pasted
15:21 pianohacker   thanks
15:21 pianohacker   *blink* that doesn't work?
15:23 khall         pianohacker: seems like it should http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/eval.html
15:33 tcohen        the page clearly states that behaviours are not the same for 1-2 vs 3-4
15:34 xarragon      My brain still refuses to adhere to the notion that 'Koha' is the development directory and 'koha-dev' is the actual installation..
15:35 tcohen        xarragon: I use koha-src :-D
15:35 xarragon      tcohen: I used to have all my projects under a directory named 'development' before I switched to 'src', I guess that's why.
15:36 pianohacker   ... koha's folder hierarchy for the install directory frustrates me enough that I set up my dev installs by hand
15:37 xarragon      Well, when I nuke this install from orbit I will at least change that naming.
15:38 xarragon      But by then I guess my mind has adapted and then it is back to square one.
15:39 tcohen        ok, bbl, need to have lunch
16:14 misilot       is there a way to link to a sub group in the saved reports?
16:15 nengard       define a sub group
16:18 Joubu         nengard: I would be interested to hear your opinions on bug 14098 :)
16:18 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14098 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Regression in Marc Modification Templates
16:18 Joubu         If you have some free time, of course
16:19 nengard       will read up
16:19 misilot       nengard: "Report subgroup"? I them created, however not sure if it can be passed into the URL or what the arguments would need to be
16:21 nengard       oh! yeah ... not sure about that
16:25 nengard       tcohen did you ever find a solution?
16:30 gaetan_B      bye
16:34 nengard       Joubu Replied
16:34 nengard       not sure i was much help ...
17:11 pastebot      "nengard" at pasted "can anyone help me with this report, it returns no results" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/120
17:33 indradg       @wunder kolkata
17:33 huginn        indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (10:50 PM IST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 28.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
17:38 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12176: Fix for missing field_value in select <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e021b512e34d0521803fa5f32dd67f1532ddb73d> / Bug 12176: [QA Follow-up] Capitalization typo after eleventh hour <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=351b2f753f7b30665dc22be595af4a00589424e7> / Bug 12176: [QA Follow-up] Small additem adjustments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
20:30 magnuse       kia ora cait
20:30 cait          hi #koha
20:30 magnuse       whoa the 3.18.7 upgrade had me scared for a while...
20:31 magnuse       problem was i had two sites where i had not run the webinstaller yet...
20:41 magnuse       mmmm steak...
20:44 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
20:44 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 14.5°C (5:40 PM ART on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
20:44 tcohen        brr
20:44 tcohen        no jokes from frozen countries please :-D
20:46 magnuse       @wunder boo
20:46 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:20 PM CEST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
20:47 drojf         @wunder berlin, germany
20:47 huginn        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 11.0°C (10:20 PM CEST on May 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
20:47 tcohen        heh
20:47 * magnuse     said nothing
20:47 magnuse       ;-)
20:48 tcohen        hola magnuse
20:51 * cait        waves
20:54 pianohacker   hello
20:54 wahanui       privet, pianohacker
20:55 magnuse       kia ora pianohacker!
20:56 pianohacker   hi magnuse!
20:56 pianohacker   how are you?
20:58 magnuse       pianohacker: busy busy busy - everything takes sooo much time
20:58 magnuse       but being busy is good :-)
20:58 pianohacker   yes indeed, in moderation. What projects are you working on?
21:00 drojf         hi cait :) how did it go?
21:00 cait          i tihnk it went well
21:00 cait          got some positive feedback from the audience
21:00 drojf         i'm sure it did :)
21:01 cait          but nothing on twitter or anywhere else so far
21:01 magnuse       pianohacker: migrations
21:01 cait          sawyour email :)
21:01 pianohacker   joy
21:01 cait          drojf: will be an interesting conf i think - got the first appt at nine tomorrow
21:01 magnuse       pianohacker: and after that there is the ill/ncip project
21:02 drojf         nice :)
21:02 pianohacker   two words which will strike fear into the heart of any of us
21:02 pianohacker   cait: hi there! How's it going?
21:02 magnuse       pianohacker: the worst part of it is being reminded how crappy MARC is
21:02 cait          at ourbig library conf this week - so busy busy:)
21:03 pianohacker   amen
21:03 magnuse       (the worst part of the migrations that is)
21:03 tcohen        amen
21:03 magnuse       @karma MARC
21:03 huginn        magnuse: Karma for "MARC" has been increased 0 times and decreased 14 times for a total karma of -14.
21:03 magnuse       mohahaha
21:04 magnuse       @karma marc
21:04 huginn        magnuse: Karma for "marc" has been increased 0 times and decreased 14 times for a total karma of -14.
21:05 magnuse       so pianohacker when do you start ful time on koha? :-)
21:05 pianohacker   today! First day full time at ByWater
21:05 pianohacker   :D
21:05 magnuse       woohoo!
21:05 magnuse       awesome!
21:05 wahanui       That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
21:05 magnuse       totally worth it, wahanui
21:05 wahanui       magnuse: excuse me?
21:06 magnuse       you are forgiven, wahanui
21:06 wahanui       ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot....
21:08 magnuse       geek_cl: chile?
21:09 geek_cl       magnuse, yes
21:09 geek_cl       magnuse, why?
21:10 magnuse       just curious :-)
21:10 magnuse       is koha big in chile?
21:12 tcohen        wb pianohacker
21:12 pianohacker   hi tcohen
21:12 Francesca     good morning
21:13 tcohen        nice to hear you're full time on Bywater
21:13 geek_cl       magnuse, i think
21:14 pianohacker   tcohen: thanks. Happy to be done with school and moving on to this
21:14 magnuse       pianohacker++
21:14 magnuse       g'night #koha!
21:15 geek_cl       night
21:15 pianohacker   bye
21:17 tcohen        buenas noches magnuse
21:25 drojf         good night #koha
22:06 eythian       hi
23:01 pianohacker   bye