Time  Nick        Message
23:57 indradg     wizzyrea, eythian +1 for the patch! I wasted a few good hours for that before i got it all set
23:56 dcook       indradg: Sounds good :)
23:52 wizzyrea    (the problem is the infinite redirect to the installer that will never complete. Also, a nicer error message would be handy there but not sure how one would do that.)
23:51 wizzyrea    yeah, could be
23:51 eythian     could be worth patching koha-gitify to do that?
23:50 wizzyrea    periodic reminder that if you want to gitify a koha on apache 2.4 you need a directory directive to allow it outside of /var/www
23:46 indradg     I've revised the test plan... hope you don't mind :)
23:46 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14266 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Replace trim() with $.trim() in opac-shareshelf.tt
23:46 indradg     dcook: done! bug 14266
23:40 indradg     and my bad for not elaborating on test results :P
23:40 dcook       My bad in terms of the test plan :p
23:40 dcook       Ah, yeah, the form will submit when you get past the error
23:39 indradg     dcook: let me clarify... i did see the "object not... " error in the console... but form submits
23:39 dcook       I suspect the error might still occur but the form might submit anyway
23:39 dcook       Hmm which I have to have open to keep emulating..
23:39 dcook       I do have the F12 tools open though..
23:38 dcook       indradg: Hmm, I'm definitely getting an error
23:37 dcook       mtj: Ahh. Misleading name :p.
23:36 indradg     dcook: just so you know...i ran IE 8 over wine... not that should make any diff
23:36 mtj         http://search.cpan.org/~fredericd/Koha-Contrib-Tamil/bin/koha-cloud
23:36 dcook       mtj: Never even heard of it before :)
23:36 indradg     :)
23:35 dcook       Well, to try it again myself and then comment :p
23:35 dcook       indradg: Yep. Just about to reply to your comment :)
23:35 mtj         a random Q, has anyone used the Tamil koha-cloud script... recently?
23:31 indradg     dcook: around?
23:16 mtj         np :0)
23:14 indradg     :) thanks wizzyrea, mtj
23:13 wahanui     tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it
23:13 wizzyrea    tmtowtdi
23:13 wizzyrea    ^^
23:13 mtj         ..no one will have a problem with your decision
23:12 indradg     mtj: fair enough! I'm going SELECT * FROM systempreferences WHERE type=<one_of_the_above> to see where these types are impacting
23:11 wizzyrea    yeah same
23:11 mtj         ''Free', 'Choice', 'YesNo', 'Integer', 'Textarea', 'Float', 'Themes', 'Languages', 'Upload' and 'ClassSources''
23:11 mtj         indradg: i would just use the list from 14135,
23:10 wizzyrea    yeah fair enough
23:10 indradg     its been a bit of a rabbit chase for me so far.... but a good one, made me read up quite a bit, that i wouldnt have had without this bug
23:09 indradg     heh
23:09 wizzyrea    I didn't go that far down the hole :)
23:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Change Localsyspref type entry to dropdown
23:08 indradg     wizzyrea: bug 14268 should do what you mention
23:08 indradg     wizzyrea: i'm not gunning for yaml either... it was just an idea
23:07 wizzyrea    we don't want to hinder it.
23:07 wizzyrea    incremental improvement is a good thing
23:07 wizzyrea    indradg: a followup to make them 1-1 might be good. and a new bug to make it a select instead would be good. But I don't think we need to read new types from yaml.
23:00 drojf       let's try that bed thing. good night #koha
22:36 huginn      04Bug 14135: minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Passed QA , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
22:36 * indradg   is a bit confused over http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135#c19
22:31 drojf       i was expecting something with a hammer on the head, but the effect would be the same (minus the headache)
22:30 wizzyrea    https://joannavolavka.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/doctor-who-capaldi-dad-skills.gif
22:29 drojf       lol yes, please!
22:29 wizzyrea    https://33.media.tumblr.com/d79d285750babd9a21e98e0a0512be17/tumblr_nbuxz6t7y11s9c6nao3_250.gif < drojf
22:27 drojf       i should be less awake at this time of night
22:27 drojf       eythian: true :)
22:25 eythian     drojf: you're in the channel late :)
22:24 drojf       hi eythian
22:22 eythian     hi
21:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12919 new feature, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , Automate collecting all records added and deleted from the catalogue
21:20 wizzyrea    hey cait, am I right on bug 12919? happy to fix if not..
16:15 gaetan_B    bye
16:09 cait        :)
16:08 xarragon    Ok, makes perfect sense. Allows reviewers to not have to look at the exact same code twice.
16:05 cait        but if more is changed another sign off is safer
16:05 cait        and keep the initial patches
16:05 cait        if it was already signed off and the follow-ups ar eminor we normally do a follow up patch
16:05 xarragon    cait: kthx
16:04 cait        back to needs signoff is ok
16:04 xarragon    cait: Was CamelCase the new default for template syntax? I see mixed in opac-basket.
15:37 xarragon    Or should it sit on 'Failed QA' with the 'Fixed' sub-status or whatever it is called?
15:36 xarragon    Oh, one question. I fixed a patch that was set to 'Failed QA'. Should I set it back to 'Needs Sign-Off' after having obsoleted the old patches and uploaded the new ones+
15:23 xarragon    But enough philosophy for now..
15:23 xarragon    Only planning ahead or actually changing does.
15:23 xarragon    Well, I have stopped worried. That's what has changed. Worrying about something never helps.
15:21 cait        :)
15:21 cait        xarragon: you are fine, don't worry so much
15:19 xarragon    (this is not the first time I do this)
15:19 xarragon    But enough talk, I have to code to work on. But thanks again; I just wanted to say that I have seen the error of my ways and changed.
15:18 xarragon    And then it just snowballs in value over time.
15:18 xarragon    Yeah sysprefs tricket me a little bit at first there. At other times it is just me being unfocused. The trick is to make the value of my contributions larger than the cost of helping me. Then it is profit from day one.
15:16 cait        so it's often best to ask while we still clean up stuff
15:16 cait        because we have a lot of things that are... 'in the flow' or deprecated right now
15:16 xarragon    And I will stop saying 'Oh yes I saw that.. blah" when I have not DONE something; talk is cheap, action speaks louder.
15:16 cait        we will help you along
15:16 cait        best to learn hands on sometimes
15:16 cait        reading koha's code can be confusing
15:16 cait        xarragon: i'd say... jump into it :)
15:15 xarragon    So I will be a bit more involved on IRC, bugzilla etc. It is much more efficient.
15:15 xarragon    cait: Thanks for your consideration in answering me and reassuring me about the templates. I have not bee very efficient so far, I tend to sit down in isolation to learn, and I always make something wrong and have to relearn.
15:08 tcohen      hola cait
15:07 cait        hi tcohen :)
15:03 reiveune    bye
14:52 xarragon    cait: But thanks for your help.
14:51 xarragon    Since it is just a simple boolean flag and comes from sysprefs directly it does not need to go into the Perl file.
14:51 xarragon    Yes, I was recommended that rather than showing in another variable. I have a patch that I am patching.
14:47 cait        but I think it#s considered good practice to get sysprefs in templates using the TT plugin
14:46 cait        xarragon: today is quiet here and i am the wrong person to ask
14:36 xarragon    Ehr.. well, that was poorly worded.
14:36 xarragon    Just curious how template options affects performance when used from templates.
14:35 xarragon    Can I generally assume that the syspref cache is enabled?
13:35 huginn      indradg: The operation succeeded.
13:35 indradg     @later tell dcook that couldn't reproduce bug 14266 on IE 8.0.6001.18702, however bug 14265 was reproducable.
12:43 cait        but didn't check updatedatabase
12:43 cait        from the patch it should have been added by te database update
12:43 cait        hm weird
12:43 gaetan_B    cait: hmm i must have done something wrong when updating then, i don't see the syspref
12:42 cait        gaetan_B: ?
12:26 cait        IdRef on web services
12:26 cait        yes, i have it
12:25 cait        let me see on mine
12:25 cait        hm it should be there
12:25 gaetan_B    or maybe cait knows ?
12:25 gaetan_B    is it supposed to be here or did things changed ? (the bug is fairly long)
12:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8992 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add an interfacing with the idref webservice
12:24 gaetan_B    hi marcelr, i'm looking at bug 8992 to see if i can answer Nicole's questions, but i can't find a "idref" syspref (i just upgraded to master)
12:01 huginn      cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 days, 19 hours, and 49 seconds ago: <Joubu> Have a good w-e #koha!
12:01 cait        @seen Joubu
12:01 indradg     :)
12:00 marcelr     indradg++
11:55 paul_p      !seen joubu
11:43 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Change Localsyspref type entry to dropdown
11:43 indradg     marcelr: bug 14268
10:45 drojf       the joy of collaboration :)
10:44 cait        the advantages of having a co-presenter - forcing me to not finish last minute :)
10:43 cait        also... my slides are ready
10:43 cait        huh? ;)
10:41 drojf       that's not what it used to be :P
10:41 drojf       heh
10:41 wahanui     Slides are evil! Noone should be forced to write any!
10:41 drojf       slides?
10:41 cait        and procrastinating from packing - library conf in n├╝rnberg next week
10:40 cait        nah, just having some fun
10:39 drojf       working on a holiday? ;)
10:39 drojf       hi cait
10:39 cait        hi drojf :)
10:39 drojf       hi marcelr
10:38 marcelr     thx for the link
10:38 marcelr     hi drojf
10:38 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
10:38 marcelr     easy SO: Release team 3.22 (bug 7143)
10:38 drojf       hi #koha
10:36 cait        and if we need separate for updating and adding
10:35 cait        i wonder if a new permission should be acq or administration
10:35 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7651 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Updating currency exchange rates should not require 'parameters' permission
10:35 cait        hm any opinions on bug 7651?
10:33 indradg     aah! :) thanks marcelr
10:32 marcelr     hi indradg : yes
10:32 indradg     marcelr: drojf == mirko ?
10:26 marcelr     interesting link from drojf
10:23 cait        hm no drojf
09:59 * cait      grumps about the javascript filters for serials issues
09:53 marcelr     How yellow is yellow :)
09:51 marcelr     yes also no yellow
09:50 cait        not sure either, maybe testonan older version?
09:49 marcelr     probably, you are right and Joubu was confused somehow
09:47 cait        hm i think the field wasn't...
09:47 marcelr     the item you are editing is still yellow in the table, but the field ??
09:46 marcelr     ok
09:46 cait        basically 2 reports and additem now
09:45 cait        pet peeve of mine... now that sqlhelper is gone, i#d really like to kill this one next
09:45 cait        i think additem is one of the reamining listed there
09:45 marcelr     yes
09:45 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Use of CGI::scrolling_list prevents customization in template
09:44 cait        would it also help bug 766?
09:44 marcelr     do you see still the yellow background in the field you are editing?
09:44 cait        would be good
09:44 cait        yep i saw
09:44 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12176 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Failed QA , Remove HTML from additem.pl
09:44 marcelr     bug 12176
09:44 cait        one of the oldest bits i guess
09:43 cait        additem is probably a maze
09:43 marcelr     i cannot find it
09:43 marcelr     stumbled over that while searching for the yellow background in items editor
09:43 cait        thx :)
09:43 marcelr     changed it
09:42 cait        we pull those headings from bugzilla for the release notes
09:42 marcelr     what is your alternative?
09:42 cait        if you added additem.pl in fornt maybe?
09:42 marcelr     i like that title :)
09:42 cait        yep
09:42 marcelr     the active bug?
09:42 cait        marcelr: can you maybe change the title of the bug a bit? it's quite confusing out of context:)
09:17 cait        it is complicated i guess
09:17 marcelr     ok was thinking france
09:16 cait        yeah he lives there :)
09:16 wahanui     i think uk is still in
09:16 marcelr     uk?
09:16 cait        i think it's a holiday in uk - talked to him yesterday briefly
09:15 marcelr     Joubu around?
09:15 marcelr     :)
09:15 cait        hi marcelr
09:14 marcelr     hi #koha
08:19 indradg     hello #koha
07:55 dcook       Have a good day!
07:55 dcook       But I"m going to jet :)
07:55 dcook       Hmm, probably
07:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove Smithsonian as a delivered z39.50 target
07:54 cait        bug 4925
07:54 cait        not that one
07:54 cait        oh
07:53 cait        shoudl we removeit?
07:53 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4952 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, the koha-remove script doesn't shut down the site's zebra instance
07:53 cait        but as oyu are here... bug 4952
07:53 dcook       Just about to leave!
07:53 cait        yep
07:52 dcook       I really shouldn't be here O_O
07:52 dcook       heya cait :)
07:49 cait        hi dcook
07:49 dcook       Now what was I doing..
07:49 dcook       cait++
07:48 cait        figured it out
07:42 cait        i'd like to use the 001 controlfield for the search
07:42 cait        can someone give me a hint? i am trying to look up a certain record via yaz client
07:42 cait        oh
07:41 sophie_m    cait : it is now a working day that is not paid. A contribution to help elder people. But things have changed since it was established, and its not very clear for everybody how it should work now
07:36 cait        ok
07:31 sophie_m    cait : it's complicated
07:27 cait        no holiday in france today?
07:27 cait        hi gaetan_B
07:24 gaetan_B    hello
07:06 dcook       That's so handy
07:06 dcook       Huzzah to whomever wrote the "Runtime variable" section in the SQL reports library
07:00 alex_a      hello cait
06:58 cait        morning alex_a :)
06:57 wahanui     hola, alex_a
06:57 alex_a      bonjour
06:55 Viktor      ...but I guess there should be some rule of when to use it since it's a different interaction then previously.
06:54 Viktor      Ah ok. Should attend then. It might improve speed I guess, but
06:53 cait        i think angular might be topic of a dev meeting soon maybe, but not sure
06:53 cait        Viktor: there are no strict rules
06:52 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14263 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export of CSV from item search form does only work in English
06:52 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14264 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export of CSV from late orders form does only work in English
06:52 cait        looking to get bug 14264 and bug 14263 moving
06:52 Viktor      cait: Ok. Is there any genereal rule for when to do Ajax? Whenever we change stuff and have the chance - or just in agreed upon places?
06:52 cait        Viktor: could you test a patch maybe?
06:52 cait        pianohacker is not around much
06:51 cait        Viktor: i am not sure - I didn't
06:48 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Angular-based circulation client
06:48 Viktor      Did anyone test bug 13630? I'm very curious but couldn't apply it because of 3-way merge-stuff I'm not yet good enough to handle manually.
06:46 Viktor      Hi cait!
06:45 cait        hi Viktor
06:37 reiveune    hello
04:34 dcook       Although I think it's probably only a handful, so maybe I'm wrong.
04:34 dcook       Hmm, according to the dashboard, I haven't signed off or failed anything in 2015... that doesn't seem right
03:41 * dcook     has totally forgot to eat lunch but is too engrossed in programming to make food-itis
03:40 * Francesca has mondayitis
03:39 Francesca   my brain hasn't been working all day
03:32 * dcook     thinks it might also be Monday
03:32 wizzyrea    my brain has stopped working.
03:29 dcook       But I thought I would've changed it to "ff.categorycode.value = $.trim(ff.categorycode.value);" by now...
03:29 dcook       Basically, I'm pretty sure I've seen "ff.categorycode.value = ff.categorycode.value.trim();" before
03:28 dcook       That's ok :)
03:28 * Francesca is totally confused
03:28 dcook       Maybe it's a glitch in the Matrix
03:27 dcook       Then deja vu about talking about the deja vu after Francesca and wizzyrea were talking in channel
03:27 dcook       Deja vu about grepping for some Javascript
03:27 wizzyrea    O.o
03:26 dcook       And deja vu about the deja vu
03:26 dcook       Whoa... deja vu
03:21 wizzyrea    yeah, just let me know and I'll bring in my laptop and we can sneak away to level 3 or something to do stuff. :)
03:20 Francesca   I thought maybe I could stick my head in at some point while I'm on break if that suits
02:20 wizzyrea    oh, no worries we've been pretty slammed here so wouldn't have been much help :/
02:11 Francesca   but I promise I'll do stuff as soon as I get on break
02:11 Francesca   I've been really busy recently so haven't been able to do any work
02:11 Francesca   just saying hi
02:10 wizzyrea    kind of - quite busy this afternoon, what's up?
02:10 Francesca   rangi or wizzyrea you guys around?
02:07 Francesca   I've only got one but its in my least favourite paper
02:07 Francesca   ya for sure
02:05 dcook       The release of all that pressure after final exams
02:05 dcook       That was the one thing I liked about being a student
02:05 dcook       :D
02:04 Francesca   to do nothingbut fix websites
02:04 Francesca   exams in a couple of weeks but then i shall be free
02:04 Francesca   not at the moment
01:55 dcook       But still managing time for #koha? ;)
01:54 Francesca   and choir stuff
01:53 Francesca   busy with uni work
01:53 dcook       All the things. You?
01:52 Francesca   dcook sup
01:52 Francesca   thats right
01:51 wahanui     I love the 11th doctor!
01:51 dcook       heya Francesca
01:51 dcook       Hmm, seems that we use $.trim() most of the time though... and only str.trim() in one instance in 3.14...
01:51 * Francesca waves hello
01:48 * dcook     has started seeing government departments switching over to Chrome in hopes of escaping IE
01:48 dcook       Actually, if you're using < IE9 at this point, you're in trouble...
01:47 dcook       str.trim() is only supported from IE9+
01:47 dcook       Boo Internet Explorer
01:44 dcook       heya BobB
01:43 BobB        hi dcook
01:41 dcook       ^_^
01:39 BobB        Aren't we lucky we live in the future  :)
01:39 BobB        still Sunday in the US eh?
01:24 BobB        bag about?