Time Nick Message 01:24 BobB bag about? 01:39 BobB still Sunday in the US eh? 01:39 BobB Aren't we lucky we live in the future :) 01:41 dcook ^_^ 01:43 BobB hi dcook 01:44 dcook heya BobB 01:47 dcook Boo Internet Explorer 01:47 dcook str.trim() is only supported from IE9+ 01:48 dcook Actually, if you're using < IE9 at this point, you're in trouble... 01:48 * dcook has started seeing government departments switching over to Chrome in hopes of escaping IE 01:51 * Francesca waves hello 01:51 dcook Hmm, seems that we use $.trim() most of the time though... and only str.trim() in one instance in 3.14... 01:51 dcook heya Francesca 01:51 wahanui I love the 11th doctor! 01:52 Francesca thats right 01:52 Francesca dcook sup 01:53 dcook All the things. You? 01:53 Francesca busy with uni work 01:54 Francesca and choir stuff 01:55 dcook But still managing time for #koha? ;) 02:04 Francesca not at the moment 02:04 Francesca exams in a couple of weeks but then i shall be free 02:04 Francesca to do nothingbut fix websites 02:05 dcook :D 02:05 dcook That was the one thing I liked about being a student 02:05 dcook The release of all that pressure after final exams 02:07 Francesca ya for sure 02:07 Francesca I've only got one but its in my least favourite paper 02:10 Francesca rangi or wizzyrea you guys around? 02:10 wizzyrea kind of - quite busy this afternoon, what's up? 02:11 Francesca just saying hi 02:11 Francesca I've been really busy recently so haven't been able to do any work 02:11 Francesca but I promise I'll do stuff as soon as I get on break 02:20 wizzyrea oh, no worries we've been pretty slammed here so wouldn't have been much help :/ 03:20 Francesca I thought maybe I could stick my head in at some point while I'm on break if that suits 03:21 wizzyrea yeah, just let me know and I'll bring in my laptop and we can sneak away to level 3 or something to do stuff. :) 03:26 dcook Whoa... deja vu 03:26 dcook And deja vu about the deja vu 03:27 wizzyrea O.o 03:27 dcook Deja vu about grepping for some Javascript 03:27 dcook Then deja vu about talking about the deja vu after Francesca and wizzyrea were talking in channel 03:28 dcook Maybe it's a glitch in the Matrix 03:28 * Francesca is totally confused 03:28 dcook That's ok :) 03:29 dcook Basically, I'm pretty sure I've seen "ff.categorycode.value = ff.categorycode.value.trim();" before 03:29 dcook But I thought I would've changed it to "ff.categorycode.value = $.trim(ff.categorycode.value);" by now... 03:32 wizzyrea my brain has stopped working. 03:32 * dcook thinks it might also be Monday 03:39 Francesca my brain hasn't been working all day 03:40 * Francesca has mondayitis 03:41 * dcook has totally forgot to eat lunch but is too engrossed in programming to make food-itis 04:34 dcook Hmm, according to the dashboard, I haven't signed off or failed anything in 2015... that doesn't seem right 04:34 dcook Although I think it's probably only a handful, so maybe I'm wrong. 06:37 reiveune hello 06:45 cait hi Viktor 06:46 Viktor Hi cait! 06:48 Viktor Did anyone test bug 13630? I'm very curious but couldn't apply it because of 3-way merge-stuff I'm not yet good enough to handle manually. 06:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Angular-based circulation client 06:51 cait Viktor: i am not sure - I didn't 06:52 cait pianohacker is not around much 06:52 cait Viktor: could you test a patch maybe? 06:52 Viktor cait: Ok. Is there any genereal rule for when to do Ajax? Whenever we change stuff and have the chance - or just in agreed upon places? 06:52 cait looking to get bug 14264 and bug 14263 moving 06:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14264 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export of CSV from late orders form does only work in English 06:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14263 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export of CSV from item search form does only work in English 06:53 cait Viktor: there are no strict rules 06:53 cait i think angular might be topic of a dev meeting soon maybe, but not sure 06:54 Viktor Ah ok. Should attend then. It might improve speed I guess, but 06:55 Viktor ...but I guess there should be some rule of when to use it since it's a different interaction then previously. 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:57 wahanui hola, alex_a 06:58 cait morning alex_a :) 07:00 alex_a hello cait 07:06 dcook Huzzah to whomever wrote the "Runtime variable" section in the SQL reports library 07:06 dcook That's so handy 07:24 gaetan_B hello 07:27 cait hi gaetan_B 07:27 cait no holiday in france today? 07:31 sophie_m cait : it's complicated 07:36 cait ok 07:41 sophie_m cait : it is now a working day that is not paid. A contribution to help elder people. But things have changed since it was established, and its not very clear for everybody how it should work now 07:42 cait oh 07:42 cait can someone give me a hint? i am trying to look up a certain record via yaz client 07:42 cait i'd like to use the 001 controlfield for the search 07:48 cait figured it out 07:49 dcook cait++ 07:49 dcook Now what was I doing.. 07:49 cait hi dcook 07:52 dcook heya cait :) 07:52 dcook I really shouldn't be here O_O 07:53 cait yep 07:53 dcook Just about to leave! 07:53 cait but as oyu are here... bug 4952 07:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4952 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, CLOSED FIXED, the koha-remove script doesn't shut down the site's zebra instance 07:53 cait shoudl we removeit? 07:54 cait oh 07:54 cait not that one 07:54 cait bug 4925 07:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove Smithsonian as a delivered z39.50 target 07:55 dcook Hmm, probably 07:55 dcook But I"m going to jet :) 07:55 dcook Have a good day! 08:19 indradg hello #koha 09:14 marcelr hi #koha 09:15 cait hi marcelr 09:15 marcelr :) 09:15 marcelr Joubu around? 09:16 cait i think it's a holiday in uk - talked to him yesterday briefly 09:16 marcelr uk? 09:16 wahanui i think uk is still in 09:16 cait yeah he lives there :) 09:17 marcelr ok was thinking france 09:17 cait it is complicated i guess 09:42 cait marcelr: can you maybe change the title of the bug a bit? it's quite confusing out of context:) 09:42 marcelr the active bug? 09:42 cait yep 09:42 marcelr i like that title :) 09:42 cait if you added additem.pl in fornt maybe? 09:42 marcelr what is your alternative? 09:42 cait we pull those headings from bugzilla for the release notes 09:43 marcelr changed it 09:43 cait thx :) 09:43 marcelr stumbled over that while searching for the yellow background in items editor 09:43 marcelr i cannot find it 09:43 cait additem is probably a maze 09:44 cait one of the oldest bits i guess 09:44 marcelr bug 12176 09:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12176 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Failed QA , Remove HTML from additem.pl 09:44 cait yep i saw 09:44 cait would be good 09:44 marcelr do you see still the yellow background in the field you are editing? 09:44 cait would it also help bug 766? 09:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Use of CGI::scrolling_list prevents customization in template 09:45 marcelr yes 09:45 cait i think additem is one of the reamining listed there 09:45 cait pet peeve of mine... now that sqlhelper is gone, i#d really like to kill this one next 09:46 cait basically 2 reports and additem now 09:46 marcelr ok 09:47 marcelr the item you are editing is still yellow in the table, but the field ?? 09:47 cait hm i think the field wasn't... 09:49 marcelr probably, you are right and Joubu was confused somehow 09:50 cait not sure either, maybe testonan older version? 09:51 marcelr yes also no yellow 09:53 marcelr How yellow is yellow :) 09:59 * cait grumps about the javascript filters for serials issues 10:23 cait hm no drojf 10:26 marcelr interesting link from drojf 10:32 indradg marcelr: drojf == mirko ? 10:32 marcelr hi indradg : yes 10:33 indradg aah! :) thanks marcelr 10:35 cait hm any opinions on bug 7651? 10:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7651 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Updating currency exchange rates should not require 'parameters' permission 10:35 cait i wonder if a new permission should be acq or administration 10:36 cait and if we need separate for updating and adding 10:38 drojf hi #koha 10:38 marcelr easy SO: Release team 3.22 (bug 7143) 10:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 10:38 marcelr hi drojf 10:38 marcelr thx for the link 10:39 drojf hi marcelr 10:39 cait hi drojf :) 10:39 drojf hi cait 10:39 drojf working on a holiday? ;) 10:40 cait nah, just having some fun 10:41 cait and procrastinating from packing - library conf in nürnberg next week 10:41 drojf slides? 10:41 wahanui Slides are evil! Noone should be forced to write any! 10:41 drojf heh 10:41 drojf that's not what it used to be :P 10:43 cait huh? ;) 10:43 cait also... my slides are ready 10:44 cait the advantages of having a co-presenter - forcing me to not finish last minute :) 10:45 drojf the joy of collaboration :) 11:43 indradg marcelr: bug 14268 11:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Change Localsyspref type entry to dropdown 11:55 paul_p !seen joubu 12:00 marcelr indradg++ 12:01 indradg :) 12:01 cait @seen Joubu 12:01 huginn cait: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 days, 19 hours, and 49 seconds ago: <Joubu> Have a good w-e #koha! 12:24 gaetan_B hi marcelr, i'm looking at bug 8992 to see if i can answer Nicole's questions, but i can't find a "idref" syspref (i just upgraded to master) 12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8992 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add an interfacing with the idref webservice 12:25 gaetan_B is it supposed to be here or did things changed ? (the bug is fairly long) 12:25 gaetan_B or maybe cait knows ? 12:25 cait hm it should be there 12:25 cait let me see on mine 12:26 cait yes, i have it 12:26 cait IdRef on web services 12:42 cait gaetan_B: ? 12:43 gaetan_B cait: hmm i must have done something wrong when updating then, i don't see the syspref 12:43 cait hm weird 12:43 cait from the patch it should have been added by te database update 12:43 cait but didn't check updatedatabase 13:35 indradg @later tell dcook that couldn't reproduce bug 14266 on IE 8.0.6001.18702, however bug 14265 was reproducable. 13:35 huginn indradg: The operation succeeded. 14:35 xarragon Can I generally assume that the syspref cache is enabled? 14:36 xarragon Just curious how template options affects performance when used from templates. 14:36 xarragon Ehr.. well, that was poorly worded. 14:46 cait xarragon: today is quiet here and i am the wrong person to ask 14:47 cait but I think it#s considered good practice to get sysprefs in templates using the TT plugin 14:51 xarragon Yes, I was recommended that rather than showing in another variable. I have a patch that I am patching. 14:51 xarragon Since it is just a simple boolean flag and comes from sysprefs directly it does not need to go into the Perl file. 14:52 xarragon cait: But thanks for your help. 15:03 reiveune bye 15:07 cait hi tcohen :) 15:08 tcohen hola cait 15:15 xarragon cait: Thanks for your consideration in answering me and reassuring me about the templates. I have not bee very efficient so far, I tend to sit down in isolation to learn, and I always make something wrong and have to relearn. 15:15 xarragon So I will be a bit more involved on IRC, bugzilla etc. It is much more efficient. 15:16 cait xarragon: i'd say... jump into it :) 15:16 cait reading koha's code can be confusing 15:16 cait best to learn hands on sometimes 15:16 cait we will help you along 15:16 xarragon And I will stop saying 'Oh yes I saw that.. blah" when I have not DONE something; talk is cheap, action speaks louder. 15:16 cait because we have a lot of things that are... 'in the flow' or deprecated right now 15:16 cait so it's often best to ask while we still clean up stuff 15:18 xarragon Yeah sysprefs tricket me a little bit at first there. At other times it is just me being unfocused. The trick is to make the value of my contributions larger than the cost of helping me. Then it is profit from day one. 15:18 xarragon And then it just snowballs in value over time. 15:19 xarragon But enough talk, I have to code to work on. But thanks again; I just wanted to say that I have seen the error of my ways and changed. 15:19 xarragon (this is not the first time I do this) 15:21 cait xarragon: you are fine, don't worry so much 15:21 cait :) 15:23 xarragon Well, I have stopped worried. That's what has changed. Worrying about something never helps. 15:23 xarragon Only planning ahead or actually changing does. 15:23 xarragon But enough philosophy for now.. 15:36 xarragon Oh, one question. I fixed a patch that was set to 'Failed QA'. Should I set it back to 'Needs Sign-Off' after having obsoleted the old patches and uploaded the new ones+ 15:37 xarragon Or should it sit on 'Failed QA' with the 'Fixed' sub-status or whatever it is called? 16:04 xarragon cait: Was CamelCase the new default for template syntax? I see mixed in opac-basket. 16:04 cait back to needs signoff is ok 16:05 xarragon cait: kthx 16:05 cait if it was already signed off and the follow-ups ar eminor we normally do a follow up patch 16:05 cait and keep the initial patches 16:05 cait but if more is changed another sign off is safer 16:08 xarragon Ok, makes perfect sense. Allows reviewers to not have to look at the exact same code twice. 16:09 cait :) 16:15 gaetan_B bye 21:20 wizzyrea hey cait, am I right on bug 12919? happy to fix if not.. 21:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12919 new feature, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , Automate collecting all records added and deleted from the catalogue 22:22 eythian hi 22:24 drojf hi eythian 22:25 eythian drojf: you're in the channel late :) 22:27 drojf eythian: true :) 22:27 drojf i should be less awake at this time of night 22:29 wizzyrea https://33.media.tumblr.com/d79d285750babd9a21e98e0a0512be17/tumblr_nbuxz6t7y11s9c6nao3_250.gif < drojf 22:29 drojf lol yes, please! 22:30 wizzyrea https://joannavolavka.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/doctor-who-capaldi-dad-skills.gif 22:31 drojf i was expecting something with a hammer on the head, but the effect would be the same (minus the headache) 22:36 * indradg is a bit confused over http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135#c19 22:36 huginn 04Bug 14135: minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Passed QA , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free' 23:00 drojf let's try that bed thing. good night #koha 23:07 wizzyrea indradg: a followup to make them 1-1 might be good. and a new bug to make it a select instead would be good. But I don't think we need to read new types from yaml. 23:07 wizzyrea incremental improvement is a good thing 23:07 wizzyrea we don't want to hinder it. 23:08 indradg wizzyrea: i'm not gunning for yaml either... it was just an idea 23:08 indradg wizzyrea: bug 14268 should do what you mention 23:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Change Localsyspref type entry to dropdown 23:09 wizzyrea I didn't go that far down the hole :) 23:09 indradg heh 23:10 indradg its been a bit of a rabbit chase for me so far.... but a good one, made me read up quite a bit, that i wouldnt have had without this bug 23:10 wizzyrea yeah fair enough 23:11 mtj indradg: i would just use the list from 14135, 23:11 mtj ''Free', 'Choice', 'YesNo', 'Integer', 'Textarea', 'Float', 'Themes', 'Languages', 'Upload' and 'ClassSources'' 23:11 wizzyrea yeah same 23:12 indradg mtj: fair enough! I'm going SELECT * FROM systempreferences WHERE type=<one_of_the_above> to see where these types are impacting 23:13 mtj ..no one will have a problem with your decision 23:13 wizzyrea ^^ 23:13 wizzyrea tmtowtdi 23:13 wahanui tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it 23:14 indradg :) thanks wizzyrea, mtj 23:16 mtj np :0) 23:31 indradg dcook: around? 23:35 mtj a random Q, has anyone used the Tamil koha-cloud script... recently? 23:35 dcook indradg: Yep. Just about to reply to your comment :) 23:35 dcook Well, to try it again myself and then comment :p 23:36 indradg :) 23:36 dcook mtj: Never even heard of it before :) 23:36 mtj http://search.cpan.org/~fredericd/Koha-Contrib-Tamil/bin/koha-cloud 23:36 indradg dcook: just so you know...i ran IE 8 over wine... not that should make any diff 23:37 dcook mtj: Ahh. Misleading name :p. 23:38 dcook indradg: Hmm, I'm definitely getting an error 23:39 dcook I do have the F12 tools open though.. 23:39 dcook Hmm which I have to have open to keep emulating.. 23:39 dcook I suspect the error might still occur but the form might submit anyway 23:39 indradg dcook: let me clarify... i did see the "object not... " error in the console... but form submits 23:40 dcook Ah, yeah, the form will submit when you get past the error 23:40 dcook My bad in terms of the test plan :p 23:40 indradg and my bad for not elaborating on test results :P 23:46 indradg dcook: done! bug 14266 23:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14266 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Replace trim() with $.trim() in opac-shareshelf.tt 23:46 indradg I've revised the test plan... hope you don't mind :) 23:50 wizzyrea periodic reminder that if you want to gitify a koha on apache 2.4 you need a directory directive to allow it outside of /var/www 23:51 eythian could be worth patching koha-gitify to do that? 23:51 wizzyrea yeah, could be 23:52 wizzyrea (the problem is the infinite redirect to the installer that will never complete. Also, a nicer error message would be handy there but not sure how one would do that.) 23:56 dcook indradg: Sounds good :) 23:57 indradg wizzyrea, eythian +1 for the patch! I wasted a few good hours for that before i got it all set