Time Nick Message 22:27 mtj cait: yep, will do 22:23 cait hi eythian 22:22 eythian hi 22:18 cait mtj: could you run a test on 3.18.x? 22:10 mtj aah master, good point 22:10 cait on 3.18 i haven't managed a successful checkout with or without yet 22:10 cait on master tho 22:09 mtj ..well, the report says without the patch, no response is given - but you *got* a reponse without the patch 22:08 rangi doesnt show up lists of bugs 22:08 cait hm? you can't make it work either? 22:08 rangi prolly cos it was set to enhancement 22:08 mtj hey cait, i guess your test for the sip bug was a legitimate fail 22:08 cait hm filed beginning of march - but no fix 22:07 mtj ta 22:04 rangi i just switched it to normal 22:04 huginn 04Bug 14150: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Field issues.date_due does not display in ISSUESLIP or ISSUEQSLIP 22:04 amyk http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14150 22:04 amyk the bug is 14150 22:03 cait hm would have been good to have more information about the bug 22:02 mtj mammy: you need to investigate if anything changed 22:00 mammy ok, thank you 22:00 mtj ..for 3.18.6 21:58 amyk there are directions there for a work-around, it is a bug 21:58 amyk mammy http://bywatersolutions.com/2015/05/18/koha-slips/ 21:58 mtj yeah, a log of the testing of that sip bug would be awesome 21:56 mammy How should I proceed to fix that? 21:55 mammy Today our receipt printers stopped printing the due dates on circulation slips. 21:53 cait yes 21:51 mammy Is this the right place to ask questions about koha? 21:45 mtj ___–_====--––≠=[][][]˜=+ 21:45 rangi maybe just email koha-devel ask someone else to test 21:44 cait rangi: i am having no luck... now i don't get even 24 21:41 cait i get the same with and without 21:40 rangi and a response with the patch (doesnt matter too much what it is, just a response) 21:40 rangi you should get no response without the patch 21:40 rangi maybe the borrower is not allowed to check it out 21:39 cait hm 24 is a patron status response 21:39 magnuse ...and it should be 42? 21:38 cait i can't checkout with and without... i get 24 as an answer 21:38 cait gah. 21:36 cait testing with the patch now 21:36 cait i think am making progress 21:35 mtj i should mention there is a little checksum gotcha with telent/raw method 21:33 mtj i 21:33 mtj sorry, a choose a bad name 21:33 cait thx 21:33 rangi its the hostname of the server you want to connect to 21:32 rangi that could be 127.0.0.1 21:32 cait it's 23:30 here - anywhere is not helping me right now 21:32 mtj anywhere :) 21:32 cait where is the koha.local coming from? 21:31 cait i tried both - 8023 and 6001 listed 21:31 mtj yes 21:31 rangi yep 21:31 cait but i still use the telnet command? 21:31 mtj yep ^ 21:31 rangi not telnet 21:31 rangi set your SIP to raw 21:31 cait passwort 21:31 cait login: 21:31 cait i am not doing that 21:31 cait it asks for login 21:31 rangi instead of doing login: 21:30 cait i don't get there 21:30 rangi its the 9300CNadmin etc 21:30 rangi its not that bit 21:30 rangi yes 21:30 cait doesn't the port have to match what is in the sip xml file? 21:30 rangi its just that you dont send 21:30 rangi whatever you want 21:30 rangi that can be your port 21:30 cait mtj: are you testing on your local machine? 21:30 rangi no 21:30 cait without changing my xml file as well 21:30 cait i am in doubt about 999 21:29 rangi maybe try something like that cait ? 21:29 rangi yeah thats how you do it with RAW 21:29 mtj ..using a 93 command, for login 21:29 mtj 941 21:29 mtj 9300CNadmin|COpassword5Y 21:29 mtj $ telnet koha.local 9999 21:28 cait not very lucky tonight 21:28 cait now trying to test with the new script... but also running against walls 21:28 cait i used that in th past, but ran into trouble today with the connection closing after login 21:27 mtj i have done some sip testing using telnet, in RAW mode 21:27 rangi you might need this patch for 3.16.x too 21:27 cait hi mtj 21:27 rangi hey mtj 21:27 mtj hey #koha 21:26 rangi trying to remember how i tested it 21:26 cait Can't locate Sip/Constants.pm in @INC 21:26 cait it complints about a missingmodule 21:25 cait i tried 21:25 rangi im 99% sure thats what i did 21:25 rangi you should be able to just grab the script from master 21:25 * cait is getting rather frustrated 21:23 cait ... in 3.18. x the script can't do chcokuts and checkins? 21:21 rangi but ill push it to 3.18.x when it passes qa 21:21 rangi this is just a 3.18.x fix (maybe 3.16 too) 21:21 rangi its been fixed in a slightly different way for master 21:21 cait i will try again 21:21 cait argh. 21:20 rangi the patch is only for 3.18.x 21:20 rangi master will work 21:20 rangi yes 21:19 cait without the patch 21:19 cait switched to master branch, restarted sip server... works 21:19 pastebot "Mammoth" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "test" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/110 21:18 cait i am... trying to repeat the steps to make sur enow 21:18 rangi you are doing that eh? 21:18 rangi you have to stop and restart the sip server 21:17 cait and now it works with it too... i am getting confused. 21:16 cait but not WITH it 21:16 cait it works for me WITHOUT the patch 21:16 cait hm ok 21:14 cait trying checkout now. but still looks broken 21:14 cait Use of uninitialized value $data in concatenation (.) or string at ./sip_cli_emulator.pl line 269, <GEN0> chunk 1. 21:13 cait hm testing some more things 21:12 rangi or 3.16.x? 21:12 rangi does it work on master? 21:12 cait i know the patch is tiny, but i'd like to know why this stopped working :( 21:11 cait this is with th patch 21:11 rangi and a response after the patch 21:11 rangi you should get no response back without the patch 21:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39273&action=diff 21:10 rangi the patch is a tiny change 21:10 rangi hmm yeah 21:10 cait it doesn't like my barcodes containing () 21:08 cait no answer 21:08 cait hm nothing after SEND:... 21:06 cait i will try that 21:05 rangi if you run it it will give you the options it takes 21:05 rangi misc/sip_cli_emulator.pl 21:04 cait the only times i got this working i did it this way, but my instructions seem to have a bug 21:03 cait how do you test? 21:03 rangi i never test via telnet 21:03 cait i know the password is lame - but only local :) 21:03 cait Connection closed by foreign host. 21:03 cait password: admin 21:03 wahanui i already had it that way, cait. 21:03 cait login: admin 21:03 cait Escape character is '^]'. 21:03 cait Connected to localhost. 21:03 cait Trying 127.0.0.1... 21:03 rangi maybe email the koha-devel list 21:02 cait i need some help with telnet again :( 21:02 rangi ah ok 21:02 cait but i am failing 21:02 cait i am trying 21:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14151 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , SIP2 Checkouts file in Koha 3.18 21:02 rangi i need bug 14151 qaed before 3.18.7 release please 21:00 cait noone? :( 20:41 cait i hae changed the koha conf entering my login data - but the telnet closes after logging in: Connection closed by foreign host. 20:41 cait can someone help me testing something sip related? 18:16 cait tcohen: around? 18:13 magnuse hiya JesseM 18:11 cait hi jessy 18:11 JesseM Hi cait and magnuse 18:09 magnuse wassup!?! 18:04 cait hi magnuse :) 17:36 magnuse hi cait 17:35 cait hi all 16:59 nengard_away thanks 16:59 nengard_away nope, just wanted to know how to explain it for the manual 16:57 tcohen just let me know 16:57 tcohen nengard_away: doubts about the discharge functionality? 16:36 indradg i'll keep an eye on kohadocs git summaries 16:36 indradg cool! 16:35 nengard I have a meeting soon, but i'll put this in the manual after that and then we can tweak if I missed anything :) 16:35 indradg ok 16:35 nengard no deposit though ... 16:35 nengard We have something similar here - but it's less a letter and more just the library telling the registrar that the student can't graduate because they owe money 16:35 indradg s/about/amount 16:34 indradg the deposit is non-interest earning for the patron, so as long as students don't get their clearance, the school can sit back and enjoy earning a tidy about of interest on these deposits :P 16:33 indradg it basically means, no issues, no dues, no holds, no fines... without which the library security deposit (also called caution money) wont be refunded to the student 16:32 nengard that makes sense 16:32 nengard thanks indradg 16:32 indradg nengard_afk: the same thing is applicable in India... it is called a) library clearance certificate, one usually needs to get hold of that letter, before receiving final degree / transcript etc from the school 16:30 huginn 04Bug 8007: new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management 16:30 indradg nengard_afk: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8007#c3 16:17 huginn 04Bug 8007: new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management 16:17 nengard Can anyone define 'discharge' for me as it relates to this new feature: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8007 15:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12109: Fix tab on the auth subfield configuration page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f614a8d5e496be5a5f1f585dc606d7ed5caaccd> / Bug 14152: Re-check required dependencies during upgrade process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac93659265d7ceed21294471f21c92a6e317775b> / Bug 8399: Display tab number on the mandatory field alert (authority) <http://git.koh 15:19 reiveune bye 14:46 tcohen the one on the Koha youtube channel 14:46 tcohen please, share the original version of the video 14:46 indradg :) thanks tcohen 14:46 tcohen indradg: i've just added the bn subtitles, thanks 14:43 indradg yay! string freeze tcohen++ 14:39 barton morning all... a quick reminder: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars has a list of IRC regulars -- if you haven't added yourself to the list, this would be a good time to do so :-). 14:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8480: (RM followup) DBIx updates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fda60fad3a8ba05d8d126a72b98ad4b397aabdaa> / Bug 8480: DBRev 3.19.00.042 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0482e417252a0bbd344da31904501a9fa00d5f7> / Bug 8480: Add constraint on auth_subfield_structure.authtypecode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf23224c999d6a 14:04 * indradg facepalms... of course! I touched a .pm file... need to write regression tests! 13:58 indradg i mean... where do I start? 13:57 indradg Joubu: ok... how do I do that? 13:50 Joubu I meant the regression tests 13:49 indradg Joubu: i dont think you mean the test plan do you? 13:48 Joubu hi tcohen 13:48 Joubu indradg: it would be great to have steps to test overdue_notices.pl too 13:47 Joubu indradg: it looks better, but you don't provide tests. 13:46 indradg hi tcohen 13:38 tcohen hi Joubu 13:36 indradg :-) 13:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled 13:35 indradg also bug 14070 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free' 13:34 indradg can someone of the QA team please take a look at bug 14135 and pass it if it clears :_ 13:33 Viktor Is "ranked" highest karma of those listed in the tracking? In that case I think others deserve additional karma. 13:31 Viktor Joining the fun :) 13:30 tcohen ie-- 13:30 huginn Viktor: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (Viktor) are ranked 23 out of 409. 13:30 Viktor @karma 13:27 tcohen hi marcelr 13:27 marcelr hi tcohen 13:26 tcohen morning 13:26 marcelr indradg++ # thx for so 13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14213 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Cataloging plugin in cloned field does not work 13:25 indradg marcelr: bug 14213 signed off 13:12 andreashm ha! 49. 13:12 huginn andreashm: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (andreashm) are ranked 49 out of 409. 13:12 andreashm @karma 13:10 * indradg nods at 'no smart answer back from the bot' 13:10 indradg what is karma? 13:10 indradg what is karma 13:10 huginn indradg: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (indradg) are ranked 45 out of 409. 13:10 indradg @karma 13:08 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (226), "Joubu" (180), and "tcohen" (169). Lowest karma: "ie" (-21), "-" (-13), and "^" (-12). You (magnuse) are ranked 11 out of 409. 13:08 magnuse @karma 13:07 * magnuse thinks cait deserves all the karma she can get 13:06 cait morning tcohen 13:02 cait Viktor: as we woudl be really interested in something liket hat... i am not sure i deserve that much karma ) 12:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted 12:59 indradg Joubu: can you please have a look at the new patch for bug 14206? i think it does what you mentioned in your comment 12:56 magnuse weird, now that i think about it, notes on issues seems like such a nice thing to have 12:56 Viktor And indeed cait++ :) That was both quick and helpful 12:55 Viktor I think we would want some kind of general purpose protection of reords so you could also use it the other way around and protect from local changes and let the union catalogue overwrite. 12:54 magnuse cait++ 12:54 Viktor Great! Thanks cait. 12:54 cait but shoudl also cover staged import i think 12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11780 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Need to prevent specific fields from being overwritten with z39.50 import 12:53 cait bug 11780 12:52 Viktor cait: I'd be interested in looking at that so if you know how to search for it that would be great :) 12:51 Viktor If there is some kind of code that might be a good start. 12:50 cait but i didn't look at the code, only the description and it seems abandoned 12:50 cait Do you want me to look for it? 12:50 cait Viktor: there was once a patch on a bug report in bugzilla that looked promising 12:48 cait s 12:48 cait like adding local subject 12:47 cait what we'd need is protecting so things can be edited locally but are not overwritten by the import 12:47 Viktor cait: Great. Then I could perhaps add that as one of the larger things for the team here that we can start research a bit. 12:46 cait it would make things a lot esier for us here as we work with a union catalog too 12:46 cait Viktor: I'd like hat - protected fields in koha 12:45 Viktor (or if it's already there and I just did'nt notice :) 12:44 Viktor And also that changes made are tracked so you can view the diff history of records and rewind it. 12:44 Viktor I'd like to see some filter system where some fiels are protected, or only some external sources can update these. 12:43 Viktor We are working on syncing records from the national library, and also get changes in. 12:42 Viktor Would version handling of records make sense? 12:39 magnuse hm, can't seem to find it 12:36 magnuse there are some guidelines one the wiki, i think 12:33 cait and i think maybe camelcase is kind of standard 12:33 cait but i think people look at what's already there 12:33 cait not a gneral convention 12:32 xarragon Hm, is there a naming convention for SystemPreferences? Seems like a lot of them in acquisitions are prefixed with 'Acq', log options are suffixed with 'Log'.. 12:30 cait i think i'd just give them a 'flag' and write details into the messages in the patron account 12:29 cait also... someone could see those fields from outside 12:29 cait magnuse: true - or 3 materials note 12:29 magnuse cait: but if you put it in 952$x - internal note - then you'd have to delete the note when the item is returned... 12:28 cait thx Joubu++ and marcelr++ 12:28 Viktor That does sound useful cait magnuse 12:27 cait hm notes on items sorry 12:27 cait magnuse: kyle has developeda feature to leave notes on issues - that could be useful in the future 12:27 cait or as a message ont he patron account 12:27 cait no i thik you'd write it in the item right now 12:27 cait hmm 12:26 magnuse there is no way in koha to associate a note with an issue, right? like saying "the patron claims to have returned this book", or "we have sent a manual reminder about this loan" 12:09 magnuse fika all day long! 11:52 * cait sends Joubu cookies :) 11:45 cait it's a few thousand in some of the libraries in difference by now, so it would be cool to get that fixed 11:45 cait Joubu: possible that there is also an issue, but for now i only tried to fix this one :) 11:43 cait the amount there appears to be correct 11:43 cait the ordered page shows no problem in our installations 11:35 Joubu cait: Did you check the ordered page? 11:35 marcelr it was already there.. 11:33 Joubu erk sql in pl -- 11:33 Joubu cait: with cookies? 11:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14172 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Acq: Orders without items missing from 'Spent' list 11:32 cait Joubu: maybe i could persuade you to take a look at bug 14172? 11:32 cait i hope, but glad to see it tested, it's quite a problem in a few of our libraries using serials and acq 11:31 cait just tried to stop it from exploding when there is no item 11:31 wahanui But now the Universe has disappeared 11:31 marcelr it works 11:31 cait but i didn't really want to change that 11:31 marcelr :) 11:31 cait marcelr: we only join with items for the itemtype... which makes not a lot of sense as it just grabs the first one 11:31 Joubu marcelr: hum, are you sure about that? :) 11:31 ashimema anywho 11:31 cait marcelr: i think the problem is that items are not mandatory 11:30 ashimema you keep db features self contained.. 11:30 ashimema cait.. the original dev of the feature they're working on would ;) 11:30 marcelr Joubu loves acq patches.. 11:30 cait now i need to find a qa volunteer... 11:29 marcelr np 11:29 cait marcelr++ thx for the sign off 11:29 ashimema for example 11:29 ashimema and /sql/001_named_update.sql 11:29 ashimema /perl/001_named_update.pl 11:29 cait it ugess it would, but then still someone needs to assign the numbers - i think for a first step it's ok 11:29 ashimema DeploymentHandler handles that with numeric filenames 11:29 cait it loops, so you can install it for testing 11:28 cait if you have multiple, the question woudl be how to order them 11:28 cait right now you only have 1 file there 11:28 cait i think the problem is the sequence 11:28 ashimema just seems more work for the rm 11:28 ashimema but I'm not going to worry myself aobut it.. 11:28 ashimema so don't see the point in adding those updates to udpatedatabase during push.. 11:28 ashimema but I'm sure updatedatabase calls a loop on files in atomic updates.. 11:27 ashimema mm.. ok 11:27 cait hm i thin right now it was mostly a fix for conflicts/sandboxes 11:27 ashimema I thought it was much more akin to DBIx::Class::Deployment 11:26 cait it's a simplified version- no worrying about the sequence 11:26 ashimema I like that less now.. 11:26 ashimema I didn't realise that was the workflow.. 11:26 ashimema really.. 11:25 cait so there won't be a lot of files 11:25 cait ashimema: atomic goes into updatedatabase once pushed 11:25 ashimema but very highly encouraged for adoption 11:25 ashimema as ciat says.. atomic is very new 11:25 ashimema order is 'less' important.. though I beleive atomic updates can also be ordered via names? 11:24 ashimema atomic does feature_x in a sigle update file and is run via updatedatabase.. 11:24 ashimema updatedatabase does version x -> version y -> version x in one long file.. and thus causes annoying merge conflicts all the time.. 11:24 cait hi ashimema 11:23 cait and the new method is still very new :) 11:23 ashimema it's the old and the new method.. 11:23 huginn 04Bug 13068: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox 11:23 xarragon http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 <- Seems to suggest some workaround for patch testing w. DB updates 11:19 xarragon s/, and/ and/g for gram. correctness. 11:18 xarragon There seems to be two 'update-sql' locations, one with 'atomic' as part of the path name. Is the latter for development stuff, and the former for official updates? 11:16 marcelr ok 11:15 indradg pushed in "UPDATE `marc_subfield_structure` SET value_builder = 'EXAMPLE.pl' WHERE frameworkcode = 'B213' AND ( (tagfield = '007' AND tagsubfield = '@') OR ( tagfield LIKE '246' AND tagsubfield = 'h') OR (tagfield = '260' AND tagsubfield = 'c'))" 11:15 marcelr good to hear; need further info? 11:15 indradg marcelr: yes! 11:15 marcelr indradg: did you succeed with the example file? 11:15 xarragon Ah, I see. That would explain why some older stuff is using a different, simpler syntax. 11:14 cait or for the html preferences 11:14 cait hm not sure, i know there are some classes - like for the language picker and the new multiselect thing 11:14 xarragon http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences#systemprefences_table 11:14 xarragon If there is anything that needs chaning on the Wiki page I can update it. 11:13 xarragon Yeah, I created one of those from the Wiki instructions. Was a little confused with the 'class' keyword in the yaml file, because the exiting stuff seems to omit in many cases; just using 'choices' directly. 11:12 cait if it's a standard pref most of the information is now stored in the yaml file 11:12 cait if you create on from the gui it's only stored in the db, so the type has sense 11:12 cait xarragon: i'd say the table is probably not as useful as before, but since we still allow to add your own local use system preferences it's not unused 11:12 xarragon Type only 11:11 cait xarragon: you have a class db column? or only type? 11:10 cait hm let's see 11:09 cait xarragon: there has been a little shift with a rewrite of the syspref editor some versions ago 11:06 xarragon A question regarding sysprefs; there seems to be a bit of overlap for "type" and "class". Also, the wiki says "type" is deprecated as a DB column, but it seems to exist on my git install. 11:04 indradg noted Joubu 11:04 Joubu indradg: it could be good to know if overdue_notices.pl is impacted too 11:04 Joubu and all calls to GetPreparedLetter when mtt is not defined (but should not exist) 11:03 indradg ok! 11:03 Joubu indradg: the script misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl has certainly also an issue 11:02 Joubu indradg: As you might know, the problem is the DB structure. We should have 2 tables to manage letters 10:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted 10:47 indradg I agree with your comment on bug 14206, but wasn't sure if it would be OK to mess with an 'in-use' Letters.pm 10:46 indradg Joubu: around? 10:05 marcelr should have added that option perhaps in the commit msg 10:05 indradg thanks... let me do that 10:05 marcelr in that case it will appear in the list 10:05 indradg ok! 10:04 marcelr indradg: or you can copy the file to another name 10:04 marcelr you can also comment one line in the framework admin script 10:03 marcelr is the most easy 10:03 marcelr that is the reason i did it via sql in the test plan 10:03 indradg yes...i can locate EXAMPLE.pl 10:03 marcelr this plugin EXAMPLE.pl (uppercase) is in the plugin directory, but it is not listed 10:03 indradg hi 10:02 marcelr hi indradg 10:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14213 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cataloging plugin in cloned field does not work 10:02 indradg marcelr: I was looking at bug 14213, I don't see example.pl in the plugins dropdown... (i've not yet added the patch). What am I missng? 09:44 cait :) 09:35 indradg :-) 09:35 indradg cait: thanks for the fishsoup update tip. That problem with unicodeencode went away :_ 09:34 indradg ok!!! I did run into a tab char fail case recently! 09:34 Joubu it does not worth to fail to SO test 09:33 Joubu the script can fail on tab chars or wrong number of tests, etc. 09:33 indradg Joubu: ok! thank you... i appreciate the explanation :) 09:33 Joubu if the tester didn't find any issue testing the patch, the "signed off" status could be set 09:32 Joubu indradg: If the qa tests tool fails, the QAer will catch that 09:32 Joubu Hi cait, marcelr :) 09:31 cait hi Joubu 09:31 indradg Joubu: noted! newbie question: I've seen a few test plans include that... what's the thumb rule here... if any? 09:30 Joubu indradg: feel free to amend my test plans, but note that "6/ run koha qa tests tool" should not be part of the test plan 09:30 marcelr hi Joubu 09:29 Joubu hello #koha 09:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14172 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Acq: Orders without items missing from 'Spent' list 09:26 cait bug 14172 would be great to have on my side - xarragon started testing, but it#s not yet signed off 09:25 * andreashm waves 09:13 cait i can't right now, but maybe can take a look tonight -would be better if signed off then 09:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14213 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Cataloging plugin in cloned field does not work 09:04 marcelr anyone willing to sign off on bug 14213? it would be nice to still fix this issue in 3.20; small patch 08:56 magnuse cait: thanks! 08:42 cait magnuse: keep in mind there is a batch tool for editing records coming with 3.20 08:38 magnuse bit too late, i think 08:27 indradg dcook: around? 08:24 magnuse i think i'll go with "MARC endringsmaler" endring = change, maler = templates 08:21 cait you could also say Vorlagen... but we kept templates in the label editor too 08:21 cait Templates für MARC-Modifikationen I think 08:21 cait i am not too happy with my translation either 08:12 magnuse wow, "MARC modification templates" is really hard to translate... cait: do you know what you have called it in german? 07:53 magnuse if he did both, it should mostly be a question of taking out the grs-1 stuff, i think 07:53 magnuse i am not sure if mathieu did both dom and grs-1 07:52 magnuse yup 07:50 indradg to sync with DOM shift in search? 07:49 magnuse i *think* 07:49 magnuse indradg: i think mathieu has done a lot of the work needed, it should just be a question of taking out any grs-1 remnants 07:48 magnuse yeah, it would be really good if the default search was a little narrower then "everything" 07:48 cait Viktor_fika_meetings_and_stuff: nothing official yet i am afraid 07:47 indradg magnuse: 8962 looks like an interesting bug 07:46 Viktor ok. Thanks! 07:46 magnuse i have not seen it etiher 07:46 Viktor No string freeze for 3.20 yet? can't find any such mails at least. 07:45 magnuse kia ora cait 07:42 indradg hi cait 07:42 cait morning #koha 07:42 indradg it is actually quite bearable as long as the humidity does not cross 65% 07:41 indradg hehe magnuse 07:41 magnuse indradg: you win :-) 07:39 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 36.0°C (12:50 PM IST on May 18, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling). 07:39 indradg @wunder kolkata 07:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8962 enhancement, P4, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , Create a new index for OPAC simple search, more specific than "any" 07:27 magnuse it would be awesome if someone could adopt bug 8962 07:22 Viktor Hei magnuse! 07:21 magnuse tjänare Viktor 07:09 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 07:09 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 07:06 magnuse @wunder boo 06:55 indradg hi #koha 06:48 marcelr hi #koha 06:39 reiveune hello 05:16 magnuse bbiab 05:15 magnuse nice 05:13 eythian we use an internal one here, that we're trying to turn into an aaS (so to speak.) 05:13 magnuse eythian: i seem to remember you talking about some saas for storing/analyzing logs a while back - do you use one you can recomend? (or that you don't hate, at least...) 05:12 magnuse kia ora eythian 05:03 eythian hi magnuse 05:01 * magnuse waves 02:39 * dcook goes back to his All India Radio 02:39 wizzyrea https://soundcloud.com/bigdatabigdata/big-data-dangerous see also 02:39 dcook I don't think I could be in a band. I just couldn't... pose like that. 02:39 dcook hehe 02:38 wizzyrea joywave, the band that's only good when they're working with electronica bands. 02:38 wizzyrea https://soundcloud.com/giorgiomoroder/joywave-tongues-giorgio-moroder-remix?in=giorgiomoroder/sets/giorgio-moroder-remixes < currently 02:36 wizzyrea it'd have to be "william" to fit :P 02:36 ibeardslee very less 02:36 wizzyrea but that's less humorous. 02:36 wizzyrea he also wants to troll the world. 02:35 ibeardslee wizzyrea: So, the english language, not Bill English with his budget? 02:35 wizzyrea I know right! 02:35 dcook Oh god, I can hear it in my head! 02:35 dcook hehe 02:35 wizzyrea "english language wants to troll the world" to get the rhythm closer. 02:34 wizzyrea now I really want a parody of "everybody wants to rule the world" with "english wants to troll the world" 02:34 wizzyrea keke 02:34 dcook hehe 02:34 eythian dcook: yes, only it's pronounced "rule" 02:34 dcook "Oh, you want to learn me? Let's make it impossible to do perfectly well." 02:33 wizzyrea ^^^^^^^^^ 02:33 dcook I'm pretty sure English just wants to troll the world 02:33 dcook Oh, but I guess Canada uses Z instead of S... but we add Us to things 02:33 wizzyrea customize or customise 02:33 dcook Organization in North America... or if someone is using software set to En-US 02:33 wizzyrea with an e 02:33 dcook I think I've only seen organisation here 02:33 wizzyrea organise, organiz 02:33 dcook Really? 02:33 wizzyrea you see both 02:33 wizzyrea organisation or organization? 02:32 wizzyrea there seems a lot of variation 02:32 dcook I never realized/realised 02:32 dcook Really? 02:32 wizzyrea there isn't a hard and fast rule. 02:32 dcook Yeah? 02:32 wizzyrea all of the en/british english have strange variations about which words have u's and z's in them. 02:31 dcook Actually, I guess en-CA would be close enough to en-NZ 02:31 eythian that'll work too... 02:31 wizzyrea LOL 02:31 dcook Am I allowed to make that joke? 02:31 eythian dcook: have you made it? :) 02:31 dcook We could just add "eh?" to the end of everything 02:31 dcook Is there a en-CA? 02:30 wizzyrea good point, kind of surprised it's not in there actually 02:30 dcook Ooh. That's nice. 02:30 eythian someone should add that to koha-translate... :) 02:30 eythian ah 02:30 wizzyrea instead of doing all of everything 02:30 wizzyrea it translates only that one file 02:30 eythian what does that do? 02:29 wizzyrea or at least, it's the best thing ever in the last 10 minutes 02:29 wizzyrea perl translate install -f opac-results.tt en-NZ < best thing ever. 02:27 eythian it loads an entire VLC instance as a plugin just to make a "quack" noise. 02:26 mtj (optimized for IE6) 02:25 mtj graet website too -> http://tweller.com/ 02:23 eythian ikr 02:23 mtj eythian: the tweller books look pretty amazing ^ 02:23 mtj hiyaz 02:05 eythian hello mtj 02:03 wizzyrea hi mtj :) 01:56 mtj hey #koha 01:56 mtj its got me laughting :) 01:55 wizzyrea that is giggleworthy in a terrible sort of way 01:20 eythian http://www.sadanduseless.com/2014/08/famous-quotes-different-person/ 01:18 eythian hello tcohen 00:17 tcohen hi BobB 00:15 BobB hi tcohen 00:10 tcohen hi