Time  Nick        Message
03:06 eythian     @later tell cait oh yeah, I remember why I hadn't done anything with that module: it's full of things that need to be fixed, and the people who want it haven't made any attempt to polish it up for acceptance in debian despite handholding through the process.
03:06 huginn`     eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:00 AmitG       hi all
04:28 * Francesca waves
04:31 * indradg   waves back
06:50 kivilahtio  hi AmitG!
07:44 Francesca   its raining again
07:44 Francesca   wonder if it'll flood in town
07:46 cait        lots of rain here too
07:59 xarragon    Just to be a complete jerk; we have shining sun here on the west coast of Sweden
08:00 cait        heh
08:01 cait        i like rain, just the walk to work was a bit ... wet
08:03 xarragon    I have to sit with the linds down, or I can't see the screen. Makes me feel like a nerdy shut-in. Which.. might be close to the truth. :-)
08:09 cait        :)
08:58 AmitG       hyea cait
09:11 cait        hi AmitG
10:25 cait        bug 14172 - looking for a tester :)
10:25 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14172 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Acq: "Spent" lists incorrect titles and wrong total in some cases
11:15 xarragon    cait: I can test it, have looked at the patch but I have never used those parts of Koha. It will take some fiddling about and maybe I have to ask a thing or two.
11:16 cait        xarragon: cool :)
11:16 cait        i tested it with a database here and the results looked correct, but it's kind of a tricky sql... i hope it will survive more testing :)
11:18 xarragon    Yay, no deps!
11:19 xarragon    I love the half-insane feeling of using git on a running web application.
11:19 cait        if you've never used acq the test plan might be a bit sparse
11:19 cait        heh
11:20 xarragon    Amazingly enough it has not yet broken once.
11:20 cait        why shoudl it? :)
11:20 xarragon    Because of my magic touch.
11:21 cait        people who break stuff easily are good testers
11:21 cait        at least that's what i keep telling myself :)
11:21 xarragon    "Oh, nice cement block you have there!" *fiddle* *CRASH* *BREAK* *EGFAULT*
11:21 xarragon    "It did it on it's own!"
11:22 xarragon    I get a bunch of warnings about the database update btw.. Are those ignorable on a dev install with only crap data anyway?
11:25 xarragon    Hmm, currencies, exchange rates. Seems pretty intricate; must be challenging to do integration of all this in the field.
11:27 xarragon    Exchange rate updates would be nice to have automatic updating on I guess.
11:27 wahanui     xarragon: that doesn't look right
11:28 xarragon    wahanui: I have played around with a custom patch for the database.. So I would count mine as tainted and ignore it.
11:28 wahanui     xarragon: sorry...
11:28 xarragon    wahanui: Ah I see, wrong person?
11:28 wahanui     bugger all, i dunno, xarragon
11:39 cait        yeah if you test updates that are not just a new pref or something easy, dump before thte test and restore db after
11:55 indradg     @seen cait
11:55 huginn`     indradg: cait was last seen in #koha 16 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <cait> yeah if you test updates that are not just a new pref or something easy, dump before thte test and restore db after
11:55 indradg     cait: around?
11:57 xarragon    indradg: He spoke moments agoe, should be here or back soon.
11:58 xarragon    cait: Hm, I am adding an aquistion.. Quantity is set to 0, and I am not allowed to change it, but it is required to be > 0.
12:07 xarragon    well, the html inspector could change that readonly field
13:08 indradg     bug 14206
13:08 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, UNCONFIRMED , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted
13:09 indradg     @later tell cait about bug 14206
13:09 huginn`     indradg: The operation succeeded.
13:19 cait        phone call
13:19 cait        reading back now
13:19 cait        xarragon: thre should be a button to add items
13:19 cait        above the quantity field - that will make the number go up
13:25 cait        xarragon: if you cheat changing th efield otherwise you will probably cause problems :)
13:33 mjk         hey there Koha-users and developers
13:34 nengard     hola
13:34 nengard     :)
13:34 mjk         weird problem here: items that I add to the catalog aren't showing up as searchable...
13:35 mjk         they can be checked in/out but i can't "find" them in either the staff or patron interface.
13:36 nengard     sounds like your indexer isn't running
13:36 mjk         it was working fine. i just noticed this in the last week or so...
13:37 mjk         i wonder how it got switched off
13:38 mjk         how long will it take to get things "caught up"
13:44 xarragon    cait: Yeah, I removed the record, watched the ByWater tutorial, and setup up my items properly and redid it.
13:46 mjk         that's weird... i tried to do a rebuild of my zebra index and i got these errors:
13:46 mjk         09:44:52-15/05 zebraidx(3700) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory] 09:45:23-15/05 zebraidx(3700) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
13:46 cait        xarragon++
13:47 cait        mjk: you need to witch your installation to dom indexing most likely
13:47 mjk         how?
13:47 cait        first
13:47 cait        check the about page, the system information tab
13:47 cait        which version are you on?
13:47 wahanui     which version are you on is, like, it in the database
13:48 mjk
13:48 cait        ok
13:48 cait        what does the system informations tab read?
13:49 mjk         XML configuration file Warning	The <zebra_bib_index_mode> entry is missing in your configuration file. It should be set to dom or grs1 (deprecated). It will default to dom. Info	Your configuration file still seems to be set up for grs1. Warning	The <zebra_auth_index_mode> entry is missing in your configuration file. It should be set to dom or grs1 (deprecated). It will default to dom. Info	Your configuration file seems to be set up for dom. Warning	The <
13:49 cait        mjk: that's your starting point
13:50 mjk         how do i fix this? just change some lines in the config and restart?
13:50 cait        basically yes and you reindex
13:50 cait        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing
13:52 indradg     cait: ping back when you have a moment
14:08 mjk         ok, lets's see if this has worked. it's rebuilding the index now...
14:09 mjk         shit... now i'm getting this error when i try to search:
14:09 mjk         Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 800.
14:10 cait        hmmm
14:10 cait        did you restart your zebra?
14:11 cait        and no errors on reindexing this time?
14:16 mjk         restarted and reindexing appears to be clean
14:20 mjk         well, after a full reboot, things finally seem to be working
14:22 cait        yay
14:23 cait        indradg: ?
14:23 indradg     cait: I patched bug 14070
14:23 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled
14:25 indradg     and while working on it, came across another issue which I've filed under bug 14206 as UNCONFIRMED. I know why it is happening - passed params to C4::Letters::getletter()
14:25 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, UNCONFIRMED , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted
14:25 indradg     cait: but would like to hear if it should be treated as a bug before proceeding further with a patch
14:26 cait        hm it sounds like a bug
14:27 cait        maybe add Joubu cc - just in case
14:27 indradg     ok! doing it
14:52 * andreashm waves
14:54 indradg     hi andreashm
14:54 andreashm   hey indradg
14:59 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
14:59 mtompset    Can I get a quick Passed QA for bug 14204?
14:59 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14204 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Fix t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t failing test from Bug 12911
17:10 xarragon    Are shipping costs supposed to be excluded from the 'Spent' amount for aquisitions/funds?
17:16 xarragon    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_Prices <- Specifies to add shipment cost, but this is not done on the aqusitions start page
17:16 xarragon    I'll check the code
17:43 tcohen      hi
18:21 tcohen      @later tell eythian do you think you can have the new dependencies packaged for releasing 3.20 next week?
18:21 huginn`     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:22 tcohen      @later tell eythian they are libpdf-writer-perl and libpdf-fromhtml-perl
18:22 huginn`     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:22 tcohen      wnickc: thanks for the patch
18:23 wnickc      tcohen: np, is that sufficient?  or should I add a test to make sure the id does change from 0 when items are added?
18:24 tcohen      the more you test, the better
18:24 tcohen      but please fill a new bug :-D
18:24 tcohen      because I'm about to push it
18:24 wnickc      can do, once I assure myself I can add a test without breaking things again :)
18:29 tcohen      you won't, don't worry
18:29 tcohen      you successfuly fixed them so, should feel more confident
18:29 tcohen      :-D
18:29 wnickc      thanks
18:40 tcohen      farewel, SQLHelper
18:40 tcohen      you were a good tool while you lasted
18:43 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11385: Remove SQL::Helper <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77930a5945c915e88b25fbac9d1432522b61b3cd> / Bug 12633: Fix specific default values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69e4b9b69b81dc35636cacad1f4dfb7042636cfc> / Bug 12633: Remove SQLHelper in C4::Members <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e196f19e2d7d6825e71306f45bcda0f
18:47 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
18:48 mtompset    Sorry for the after-the-fact sign off, tcohen. :)
18:48 tcohen      mtompset: no worries, i'm glad you tested it anyway
18:50 tcohen      less diags btr, yay!
18:51 tcohen      @later tell eythian I really need to talk to you about those packages, i'm worried that they don't pull the right dependencies, so even if you package them I might need to patch PerlDependencies to add them. So I need to know how are you thinking of solving the packaging issue
18:51 huginn`     tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:52 tcohen      mtompset: have you already fixed t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t ?
18:52 mtompset    That sounds familiar... let me check.
18:53 tcohen      yes
18:53 tcohen      13673
18:53 mtompset    Yes.
18:53 mtompset    I took indradg's sign off virginity with it. ;)
18:54 tcohen      hahah
18:54 tcohen      i recall
18:55 tcohen      so, his first signoffs on master
18:57 mtompset    tcohen: I was hoping someone would sign off all my silence warning bugs.
18:57 mtompset    But only bgkriegel got most of them.
18:57 mtompset    He missed some though.
18:58 mtompset    for example bug 14110
18:58 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14110 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/00-load.t
18:58 tcohen      just tell him
18:58 indradg     taking of sign-offs... can someone take a look at bug 14070
18:58 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled
18:59 mtompset    That was on my to do list, indradg. :)
18:59 indradg     yay! mtompset++
18:59 mtompset    perhaps another tit for tat, indradg? :)
19:00 indradg     sure... no harm in giving a shot
19:02 mtompset    {insert explitive expressing surprise}
19:03 mtompset    It tells me to fill it in, but then loads back to the original page?!
19:03 mtompset    I hope your patch fixes this, indradg.
19:03 indradg     mtompset: that it does
19:04 indradg     mtompset: however I ran into something else over there... bug 14206
19:04 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14206 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , notice using only the 'print' template can't be deleted
19:04 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13986: Implement fix for OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=159cb0ed05c631c9082cb2a8e905611c2d829886> / Bug 13986: Printing a list only prints the results of the page you are viewing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9495ecaab6777bdd0e92aa0239b9c9cb5759e3e9> / Bug 13673: (QA followup) Add license <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
19:05 indradg     tcohen++
19:05 mtompset    one patch at a time.
19:05 mtompset    let's not get too far along the bunny trail of discovered errors.
19:05 indradg     aye
19:08 mtompset    okay. I see the test case for the next bug. :)
19:16 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13591: Pass OPACBaseURL to rss creation process <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=607b224f0094bd146f93c99bb135c6d00da225e6>
19:17 Disneydave  Hello all - will Koha run on Ubuntu 14.04?
19:19 tcohen      Disneydave: absolutely
19:20 nengard     hola Disneydave
19:20 tcohen      the release manager, for instance, uses 14.04 to work on Koha
19:20 nengard     hehe
19:20 Disneydave  Awesome - will upgrade to 14.04
19:26 mtompset    Disneydave: Yes. Though, Debian is what the majority of developers use. :)
19:26 mtompset    indradg: I got a little more explicit in the test plan. :)
19:26 mtompset    sign off coming. :)
19:27 indradg     ok!
19:27 tcohen      bye #koha
19:27 tcohen      have a nice weekend
19:35 indradg     thanks mtompset! nice of you to elaborate on the test plan. I was more worried with not being able to delete a notice that didn't have the email one defined.
19:35 mtompset    But you don't have a patch on the bug to sign off. :P
19:36 indradg     14206? Almost ready
19:36 indradg     it is a simple fix
19:43 mtompset    Let me know when it is.
19:58 mtompset    @seen cait
19:58 huginn`     mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <cait> maybe add Joubu cc - just in case
20:12 mtompset    Nice quote, indradg|dinner
20:12 indradg     mtompset: one of my all time favs... can prolly recite half the script
20:17 mtompset    indradg: I was also looking at bug 7571
20:17 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kohapatch, Failed QA , Maintain exchange rate history
20:18 indradg     kohapatch... that must be Amit Gupta's
20:18 mtompset    Yes.
20:18 mtompset    Personally, i think it is a good idea.
20:19 mtompset    The problem is the whole description and iso code mess we have in the currency section.
20:19 indradg     it is... the multicurrency thingie needs proper planning and an RFC
20:19 mtompset    I was hoping cait or someone else would be around to discuss it.
20:19 mtompset    Do we have a Currency.pm?
20:20 indradg     yes
20:20 mtompset    Mmmm... really? C4/Currency.pm? Koha/Currency.pm?
20:20 mtompset    We only seem to have a currency.pl
20:21 mtompset    Ah... it's part of C4/Budgets.pm
20:22 mtompset    Oh... we have a Koha/Number/Price.pm
20:23 mtompset    And there's a CurrencyFormat system preference?!
20:26 indradg     aargh... don't get me started on CurrencyFormat syspref
20:27 indradg     i tried contacting the author of the original CPAN module we are using... no reply
20:27 mtompset    Number::Format?
20:29 indradg     Locale::Currency::Format
20:32 indradg     The Indian numerical formatting is like this - for 100 million it is - 10,00,00,000
20:32 indradg     mtompset ^
20:32 mtompset    {insert explitive}
20:32 mtompset    What kind of strange methodology is that?
20:32 indradg     plus the Indian Rupee symbol isn't on the file -  "₹" (Unicode U+20B9)
20:33 mtompset    So for a 1000 million? how would that look, indradg?
20:34 mtompset    How do you know where the separators go?
20:34 indradg     mtompset: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system#Use_of_separators
20:35 indradg     " is used in India as well as in Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka." - thats a good 1/5 of the global population... it needs to be on-board
20:36 indradg     ICU had added it a long back
20:36 mtompset    So, in blocks of 2 except the last block of 3?!
20:36 indradg     yep... just the first thousand
20:37 indradg     everything else moves in 100s... very metric :P
20:38 mtompset    But why 1000?!
20:39 mtompset    Everything in 100's across the board would make sense to me... but that exception at the end is strange.
20:39 indradg     beats me... will have to look up books on vedic maths
20:44 tcohen      hi
20:45 mtompset    tcohen: indradg professed his love for you, while you were gone. ;)
20:45 indradg     lol
20:45 mtompset    -- love of pushing his first signed patch. :)
20:46 indradg     well... i did use his commit to obsolete yours
20:46 indradg     :P
20:46 tcohen      hey, i was pleased to do it. he's been around for a while (before i showed actually)
20:46 mtompset    I guess that makes him an old man. :)
20:47 tcohen      tcohen?
20:47 wahanui     well, tcohen is obsessed with automated testing :)
20:47 mtompset    tcohen: I put in a blurb for the dev news. :)
20:48 pastebot    "mtompset" at pasted "blurb" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/109
20:48 tcohen      we have a section for that
20:48 indradg     tcohen: when you find some free time from RM pressures... do have a look at bug 14070, it needs to pass QA
20:48 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14070 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Notice not saved when mandatory fields are not filled
20:48 indradg     mtompset: did you mention a bug you wanted me to test?
20:48 mtompset    indradg: though he has the power and authority to do so, sometimes he let's the QA team take a look first. :P
20:49 mtompset    take a look at the paste, indradg. Find one of those numbers not signed off. :)
20:50 tcohen      indradg: yeah, you don't want an angry QAM,
20:50 tcohen      she transforms from Katrin into Katrina ;-)
20:50 indradg     tcohen: be it far from me to anger cait :P
20:50 cait        lol
20:51 * cait      is not a hurricane
20:51 indradg     heh
20:51 cait        ... all the time
20:51 tcohen      heh
20:51 mtompset    Is Katr really an X? :)
20:51 mtompset    Hurricane reference better than mine.
20:52 mtompset    (bad attempt at warrior princess)
20:52 mtompset    cait++ # for her general awesomeness in QA. :)
20:54 tcohen      mtompset: have you already sent that email?
20:54 indradg     tcohen: off-topic - is there an en SRT file for the "We are Koha" video? I would like to translate that to bn_IN... recently I showed it to a group of students who liked it... but they don't speak a lot of english
20:54 mtompset    To kohanews, yes.
20:55 tcohen      indradg: sure!
20:55 indradg     thanks
20:55 tcohen      we should definitely have more videos
20:55 tcohen      on the Koha channel
20:56 tcohen      don't you think NateC?
20:58 tcohen      indradg: sent
20:59 indradg     mtompset: taking a look at bugs 14110, 14111, 14118, 14120, 14121
21:00 indradg     tcohen: got it! thanks! :)
21:30 tcohen      gmcharlt: we don't have a syntax for specifying indexes depending on the value of ind1 or ind2, right?
21:32 tcohen      jcamins?
21:32 wahanui     jcamins is, like, insane
21:36 cait        it would b enice to have one
21:37 cait        hm also on the existance of another subfield with a specific value
21:37 cait        like the $2s
21:37 cait        or... ldr pos 7 = s ... serial title index
21:43 tcohen      cait, could you think of the use cases?
21:44 cait        building an index specific to one classification as specified in 082 $2
21:44 cait        having a search index only containing serial titles
21:44 cait        i got ideas heh :)
21:44 cait        @marc 084
21:44 huginn`     cait: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
21:44 cait        ah 084 then
22:57 indradg     bgkriegel: i messed up while testing bug 14111 :(
22:57 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14111 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Patch doesn't apply , Silence warnings t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t
22:59 bgkriegel   :) Not a big deal. Just manually obsolete your patch, de-obsolete the one from Mark, then sign again, this time both patches
23:34 mtompset    Sorry... I'm trying to fix it up.
23:49 mtompset    Okay... described how to test.
23:57 mtompset    bgkriegel: If you don't get warns in current master, check with apache 2.4 ;)
23:58 bgkriegel   Ok, will try :)