Time Nick Message 02:27 eythian quiet day here today 02:29 dcook Yarp 02:29 dcook tis a Dspace day pour moi 02:31 eythian pour you indeed. 02:33 dcook hehe 02:34 dcook I'd love to get done my DSpace work so that I can do more Koha work... 02:34 dcook Specifically that OAI harvester 02:36 dcook I wish DSpace did tags for individual releases and not just the branch.. 02:36 dcook Wait a tick 02:36 dcook They do and I'm just stupid 02:36 dcook :p 02:36 dcook Must just be overly hungry 02:37 eythian holy carp, ES searching on the staff client just worked. 02:37 eythian that's a surprise. 02:39 dcook \o/ 02:39 eythian hmm, though my query parsing doesn't understand a few things that the staff client does 02:39 eythian like su,complete-subfield:{Courts} 02:42 dcook O_o 02:42 dcook Wazzat? 02:43 eythian if you view a record in the staff client, and click on a subject, that's what the query is. 02:43 eythian @wunder nzwn 02:43 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on May 13, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 02:43 eythian heh mostly cloudy 02:43 wizzyrea yeah, it's leaving off the fact that the clouds are falling out of the sky. 02:44 dcook Huh... that seems special 02:44 dcook I wonder where the { } come into the picture 02:44 dcook clouds are falling out of the sky? 02:44 dcook @wunder syd 02:44 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (12:30 PM AEST on May 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 02:45 dcook Hmm, that's probably about right.. 02:45 eythian dcook: I've seen it elsewhere, I just transmogrify them into " 02:46 eythian but my stuff isn't converting it into something that ES can understand like it should. 02:46 wizzyrea (it's raining) 02:47 eythian I think because it doesn't know what complete-subfield is 02:48 wizzyrea TAB BANKRUPTCY 02:48 dcook TAB BANKRUPTCY? 02:49 dcook yo tcohen 02:49 dcook eythian: I seem to recall {} meaning something to Zebra, but I don't know if we need them 02:49 dcook I think they are escape characters? 02:49 dcook Hehe. Just did this query: "indexdata zebra escape" 02:50 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-rpn.html 02:50 dcook "Escaping PQF keywords and other non-parseable XPath constructs with '{ }' to prevent client-side PQF parsing syntax errors:" 02:50 dcook I want to say there is another reference somewhere.. 02:51 eythian ah right, that makes sense 02:52 wizzyrea it's when you give up on having tabs and close them all out of irritation 02:52 dcook Ahh, I thought you meant TAB... like the gambling folk 02:52 eythian yeah, I have 315 tabs open at the moment, I ought to do that. 02:52 wizzyrea hah! no 02:52 wizzyrea 315, that is excessive. 02:53 eythian they just pile up 02:53 wizzyrea I think I had 50 and that was too many. 02:53 wizzyrea it's when I have 10+ different koha intranets open and all I see up there is [K} 02:53 dcook eythian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/17/zebras-escaped-brussels-police-belgium 02:53 wizzyrea [K] 02:53 eythian 316 now 02:53 eythian thanks dcook 02:54 wizzyrea hahaha 02:54 dcook hehe 02:55 eythian https://twitter.com/AidaDeMol/status/589074445089767424 <-- ahahaha 02:55 eythian "Police run over 1 of the 3 zebras" 02:56 wizzyrea lool 02:57 dcook Hmm, I'm not convinced that curly braces actually do anything 99% of the time 02:57 dcook hehe 02:57 eythian it seems that they allow things inside them that would cause syntax errors elsewhere. 02:57 eythian wahanui: zebra 02:57 wahanui well, zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses 02:58 eythian wahanui: zebra is also loose in Brussels 02:58 wahanui okay, eythian. 02:58 dcook I guess you might have a subject with a reserved character yeah. 03:00 dcook Hmm... although I'm not actually seeing that in practice.. 03:01 dcook Hmm... those special characters look like they're being stripped out by the tokenizer anyway.. 03:01 * dcook shrugs 03:01 dcook Back to DSpace 03:01 dcook And maybe lunch.. 03:05 eythian https://youtu.be/3YLxGFLpOl0 <-- neat 03:07 eythian https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/AmldEDANL0nEpl3 <-- dcook, this might interest you. 03:08 wizzyrea that *is* neat 03:09 eythian dcook: I recommend starting with Scree::Transmissions 03:09 eythian err 03:10 eythian Scree:Transmissions 03:11 dcook eythian: What's that? :S 03:12 dcook Music? 03:12 wahanui Music is fine :) 03:12 eythian it's a (now non-existant I think) NZ band that I quite like. 03:12 eythian and just remembered now when poking through my music 03:12 dcook Cool. I'll make a reminder to check it out when I'm at home 03:12 dcook Ah, apparently they're on Spotify as ewll 03:12 dcook well* 03:13 dcook Hmm, I wonder how good Spotify is with obscure French Canadian stuff.. 03:13 dcook Starting Scree:Transmissions now 03:13 dcook Dang, they seem to have everything... 03:14 dcook No wonder they spent over 800 million on royalties last year 03:18 dcook Now let's see if I can remember the band that did cover versions of Nino Ferrer's songs.. 03:19 eythian damn, I'm going to have to add a bit more intelligence to this string processor to handle multi-part freeform index specifications. 03:19 eythian rats 03:24 dcook Oh... listening to this song is not making my hunger go away : http://www.musicme.com/The-Nino%27s/titres/Les-Cornichons-t119926.html 03:24 dcook Yes, it's a song about pickles. Well, and other food. 03:24 dcook I think it's catchy though :P 03:25 eythian Give peas a chance. 03:25 dcook :p 03:28 dcook Ok, hunger is going to great a problem 03:28 dcook bbiab 03:31 * eythian cheats and just removes anything after a , in this context. If you need that, use the query parameter that's there for that purpose. 03:31 eythian (until all this is replaced with a real query parser anyway.) 03:37 wizzyrea cheater. Cheater. 03:37 wizzyrea j/k you're lovely, you're awesome. don't change. 03:40 eythian This is a sacrifice I'm willing to make, the only real way of fixing it would be to build a parser, and screw doing that right now :) 03:41 * wizzyrea imagines you like an aztec on a pyramid sacrificing everything after commas to the gods of elasticsearch 03:41 wizzyrea maybe with a little crazy eye 03:41 eythian haha 04:02 mtompset Have a great day, eythian wizzyrea dcook #koha. :) 04:21 dcook I do like DSpace's overlay setup 04:21 dcook You can copy the source of files you want to customize into a different path 04:22 dcook Then when it's built, it'll use your customized overlay version rather than the release's version 04:22 dcook Of course, it doesn't help if you modify the built files and don't remember to put them back in version control 04:22 * dcook is glad he doesn't have to deal with that right now 04:22 dcook I think I mentioned recently that Git is the best? 04:24 eythian hmm, the problem with that is that if the original files are changed in an update, you've got no tracking of your own versions. 04:24 dcook Hmm? 04:24 dcook Ah, yeah 04:25 dcook You have to be pretty careful with updates 04:25 dcook I'm upgrading someone from 4.0 to 4.3 right now 04:25 dcook So I can copy over the existing overlays from 4.0, but I have to vet them against the updated versions before actually building :/ 04:26 dcook But then I'm just diffing files between the release path and the overlay path 05:32 dcook And... now it's raining 05:32 dcook @wunder syd 05:32 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 11.0°C (3:22 PM AEST on May 13, 2015). Conditions: Heavy Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 05:32 dcook So much for "Clear" :p 06:02 dcook Huh... 06:02 dcook Is tcohen really doing 3.22 as well? 06:03 dcook If so, major kudos to him 06:07 * magnuse waves 06:41 reiveune hello 06:43 magnuse tcohen++ for the beta 06:43 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:43 magnuse @wunder boo 06:43 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 06:43 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:43 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 12.7°C (8:26 AM CEST on May 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 06:44 magnuse ooh, coldish 06:44 reiveune salut magnuse :) 06:54 alex_a hello 07:03 sophie_m hello #koha 07:10 magnuse huh? bugzilla is suddenly giving me the "Log in to Bugzilla" web page treatment... 07:10 magnuse s/bugzilla/git bz/ 07:12 dcook Did you change password lately, magnuse? 07:13 magnuse nope, but i did change my email :-) 07:14 dcook That could do it? 07:15 dcook Ooh that reminds me.. 07:16 magnuse yup, that was it 07:16 magnuse dcook++ 07:18 Viktor Greetings #koha :) 07:19 dcook Hey Viktor and cait 07:19 dcook magnuse: Hurray! 07:19 magnuse hiya cait and Viktor 07:19 magnuse i hear a rumour that Viktor will be promoting koha to lots of libraries today... 07:20 Viktor True magnuse. 07:20 Viktor But I sort of do that one or two times a week now :) 07:21 Viktor We have a visit with 15 personson who are collecting info for a bigger meeting with the whole 49 "kommuner". 07:22 Viktor They want to know what they can tell the other communities what Koha can do and what to expect from our project. 07:22 magnuse very cool 07:22 magnuse Viktor++ 07:22 dcook :D 07:23 Viktor A double check: We have both hired programmers in house and consultants. Is it still frowned upon if consultants sign off on code from our in house people (and vice versa)? 07:23 magnuse yeah, ideally it should be people from "different organizations" 07:23 Viktor It feels a little on the verge since both have a common employer (being the project) 07:24 Viktor magnuse: Yes I had that feeling :) 07:24 magnuse "Preferably, patch writer and patch signer should not be from the same company or institution." http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 07:25 magnuse it does say "Preferably"... 07:25 magnuse but i think that is mostly for extreme cases, like if you are working on something like an API that only people in your org has access to 07:25 magnuse but even then it is best if someone independent tests for regressions 07:27 Viktor magnuse: Perhaps if we do signoff between us but still leave it with "needs signoff" and a note that it's been written/tested by different companies but with the same emmployer. 07:27 Viktor ? 07:28 dcook yeah, I think that seems reasonable 07:28 gaetan_B hello 07:28 dcook I think other people have done that 07:28 dcook salut gaetan_B 07:28 magnuse Viktor: yeah, sounds like a good idea 07:28 Viktor Then we could still catch problems early and have the code up publicly as fast as possible. 07:28 magnuse yup 07:28 Viktor Thanks dcook, magnuse. Think we'll go with that. 07:28 dcook totally 07:29 dcook The more testing and QA the better! 07:29 Viktor Indeed :) 07:29 dcook Viktor: I really want to get that OAI code posted at some point so that folks can test it and tell me all the ways that it's horrible ;) 07:29 dcook Alas, Koha is only one of three projects I have at the moment, and the other two are occupying more of my time these days 07:30 * cait waves 07:30 Viktor dcook - Didn't you actually post it "as is" in the thread the other day? Have a feeling I saw a patch that I never had the time to check up on. 07:30 * Viktor waves at cait 07:31 Viktor dcook I can write much more horrible code then you ever could ;) 07:32 Viktor (or that patch might be confused with another discussion) 07:32 cait Viktor: in theory you could now - we changed the rules a bit - but the way magnuse suggested is my preference - the more sign offs the better :) 07:32 dcook Viktor: Yeah, I did, but then Andreas Mace got in touch, so I've been thinking about trying to find some time to work on it again! 07:33 dcook But I won't be working on Koha for the rest of the week, so... don't know 07:33 dcook DSpace eating up lots of time at the moment too.. 07:33 dcook In fact, I already should've left work 30 minutes ago! 07:33 magnuse bad DSpace 07:34 Viktor cait: We'll test but leave it with "needs signoff" then. Better safe than sorry and it's no hurry yet for 3.22 :) Or at least I hope it's not :) 07:34 cait i hope we can make some progress on the overdues devs soon 07:34 cait i am interested to see those moving :) 07:34 magnuse yay 07:34 cait lots of good things out ther eactually, always lots to do 07:36 Viktor dcook - I know there is funding for getting OAI done. And people that will be happy when it's finished :) Hope you can find the time to get it going again - much more efficient that you finish it. But I see how too much to do is a problem.. 07:36 magnuse atheia++ for more work on the ill module 07:36 Viktor cait: Are you referring to our overdue patches that inlibro is doing? 07:37 Viktor cait: I really, really, really need those and it's one of those things that would make me sleep better :) 07:38 Viktor cait: I realized that testing those right was a bit of bother for me so I'm very happy to have better hackers at hand who need something to do :) 07:42 Viktor I am a bit worried however. I know kivilahtio is doing dev that is touching the same files so I wonder how we should get things coordinated. 07:44 drojf morning #koha 07:45 magnuse Viktor: that is indeed an interesting question... 07:45 magnuse moin drojf 07:46 Viktor morning drojf 07:46 drojf hei magnuse, hej Viktor 07:47 Viktor magnuse: It is. And it worries me. I'm tempted to get the patches done as fast as we can and then yell "No regressions" :) 07:48 Viktor magnuse: But I know that his patch was creating a better infrastructure for the messages so that's not overly productive. 07:48 magnuse Viktor: that might be the only way to do it 07:48 magnuse or make kivi base his work on yours 07:48 magnuse but then he gets more work if your patches need redoing to get through qa 07:50 Viktor magnuse: It might :) But I think kivi have his hands full and might abandon the issue if it becomes extra work. 07:51 Viktor Think I'll have to get everybody in touch with each other over email or something and plan how to solve this. 07:56 magnuse Viktor: sounds good 08:18 cait Viktor: i think right now your patches are there, so we should work on those - for overdues 08:19 cait Viktor: i am not sure whta kivi plans, but the code hasn't hit us yet 08:20 cait coordinating and talking to each other is of course the best way to solve it :) 08:25 cait @later tell rangi could you take a look at bug 13196 for inclusion in 3.18? 08:25 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 08:40 pablito does anyone have some experience cataloging journal articles into koha? 08:45 cait we have some libraries doing it - but they catalog with another software and then the data is imported into koha 08:45 cait maybe i can still help out a bit 08:45 cait what's the question? 08:45 wahanui hmmm... the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 08:48 cait @later tell rangi - forget it - it's already in 08:48 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 08:50 pablito cait, we have over 100 printed journals in our library and I want to put the article titles, author etc. into koha 08:50 cait what we do is having separate records for those 08:50 pablito I already created biblios for these journals already 08:51 magnuse pablito: do you know about analytics in koha? 08:51 cait yeah, easyanalytics is one option 08:51 pablito I have been reading about analytics, but it's not clear to me yet 08:51 pablito ok 08:51 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Analytics 08:51 cait ah yes, that page is excellent 08:51 cait ashimema++ 08:53 pablito so can you explain a bit the overall process of putting article titles, etc into koha 08:53 pablito ? 08:55 pablito maybe it's better if i give you my situation now 08:56 pablito I've already created serial biblios for the journals 08:57 pablito now in each serial biblio, I created multiple items to correspond to the articles of a journal 08:58 magnuse ah, that is probably not the way to do it 08:58 pablito sorry, multiple items corresponding to the issues of a journal title 08:58 magnuse yeah, that makes sense 08:58 magnuse then yoo catalogue the articles much the same way you catalog books 08:58 magnuse with the title in 245a etc 09:02 pablito is there a sample MARC files somewhere that I can start with? 09:05 cait pablito: we link journal to articles - not issue to article - if you want to do that you coud check the manual for the Easyanalytics feature 09:05 cait but yu have to decide for one way or the other, as they are exclusive 09:05 cait [off] those are some articles https://inm.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&idx=kw&idx=kw&limit=bib-level%3Aa&sort_by=relevance&do=Search 09:06 cait look for 773 09:07 pablito i see 09:08 cait we are not using Easyanalytics - just keep in mind ther eare at least 2 different ways of doing things 09:09 pablito ok 09:09 pablito here's my library's catalog: http://libraryjerusalem.unisal.it/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=183049 09:09 pablito The journal is titled Concilium 09:09 pablito there are multiple issues of which I have assigned called number 09:11 pablito so when I create an article record, I will need to link it to the biblio of Concilium and indicate somehow what issue the article is located in 09:11 cait yeah, you put that in 773 09:11 cait if you look at the lik above 09:12 cait you can see that there is always an In: .<link to the journal> information about issue, pages year etc. 09:12 cait that's from the 773 subfields 09:18 pablito ok, makes sense 09:21 pablito is Easyanalytics a program like MarcEdit? 09:23 pablito where can I get Easyanalytics? 09:26 drojf easyanalytics is one way to do it in koha. it's not an external software 09:27 pablito ah 09:29 drojf one way as in "an alternative to what cait showed you" 09:29 drojf that said, that's all i know about it, as i do it like it is done in cait's example 09:31 xarragon The 'kohaadmin' user created during setup, does it exist in the SQL database or is it hardcoded into the installation? 09:38 cait xarragon: it's ot in the database, you can find the data about it in your koha-conf.xml 09:38 cait morning drojf, hi xarragon 09:38 drojf it's the database user. a mysql account. that is why you can't use it for regular librarian work 09:39 cait :) 09:39 cait drojf explained it better 09:39 drojf oh did not see what cait said 09:39 drojf it's basically the same ;) 09:39 drojf hi cait 09:39 slef magnuse: our afflicted user isn't seeing that problem since clearing their cache :-/ 09:39 slef magnuse: they said they'd already done that though, so iDunno 09:40 slef morning everyone 09:40 magnuse kia ora slef 09:40 drojf hi slef 09:40 slef Welcome to chapter 198316951 of I hate MSIE 09:40 magnuse hehe 09:40 magnuse i'll have another go at the cache then 09:40 slef I'll tell you any more details once I get them 09:40 xarragon drojf: Ah, ok. Thanks. I saw some lines in C4::Auth about a 'superuser' and demo user, and database had no 'kohaadmin' entry. Thanks for the explanation. 09:41 cait xarragon: that's why it's not recommended to use it for anything outside of running an update - it has no borrowernumber 09:41 cait no home library etc. 09:42 cait so you shoudl always work inside koha with a real user 09:42 cait if you see lines referring to superlibrarian that is the 'top' permission for admins - it means you can basically do everything 09:43 xarragon Yeah I noticed some things were a bit wobbly when using it. I have another user created, but right now I am just playing around learning stuff for a patch we're considering. 09:43 xarragon Sorry if this is basic stuff I could have read in the manual. 09:44 xarragon Interesting design to use the SQL credentials as a default superuser/admin account though. Makes a lot of sense. 09:45 cait we are here to help 09:45 cait and i am not sure where that is fully documented myself 09:45 xarragon While I'm already harassing you, are Intranet users also stored in the 'borrowers' table? I can see no other place, and C4::Auth seems to be querying 'borrowers' primarily? 09:45 cait yes 09:45 cait all user accoutns are stored in borrowers 09:46 cait the difference is that intranet users have permissions - borrowers.flags and 2 separate tables are involved there 09:46 cait so for testing what you normally do is crate a new patron of a staff patron category and give it the 'superlibrarian' permission 09:47 cait it's the first thing that needs to be done after intalling a new koha usually - create a library, create a patron category, create your superlibrarian 10:12 drojf later #koha 10:46 magnuse wheee 10:52 xarragon Nothing feels better than messing directly via the SQL command line into a running Koha install, knowing graceful I usually am when I am hacking at stuff. 10:53 xarragon I prefer to think of the results as a 'learning experience'. 11:04 magnuse it makes you feel so alive ;-) 11:06 xarragon And if it works I stand up, stretching my arms out, screaming "I AM INVINCIBLE!" etc. 11:15 xarragon Running a database application and web server on a 1.8" 4200 RPM laptop disk really is asking for slowness.. 11:19 xarragon Got to love the 'superlibrarian' label.. I get an image in my mind of someone with a cape and close-fitting clothes. 11:30 magnuse still a bit of snow left in the mountains http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/112348/broeyter-fjellvegen-til-geiranger 12:30 tcohen morning 12:31 magnuse hola tcohen 12:33 tcohen bravo julian! 12:33 magnuse ? 12:36 tcohen bug 13799, comment 37 12:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add base for building RESTful API 12:38 tcohen jajm++ 12:40 jajm :) 12:40 jajm i hope it will help 12:40 tcohen it at least clears the path for the discussion on the implementation 12:41 tcohen and we can focus on architectural/design decisions 13:00 magnuse druthb! \o/ 13:07 magnuse talljoy! \o/ 13:08 druthb magnuse: \o/ 13:08 magnuse :-) 13:09 magnuse imagine supporting koha only on customer's servers, and having to deal with umpteen different ways of doing security etc... 13:10 barton druthb: \o/ 13:10 magnuse barton \o/ 13:11 barton owait, that's been said already. 13:11 barton owell. druthb deserves two waves :-) 13:12 druthb druthb? 13:12 wahanui you are an amazing person 13:12 druthb bah 13:14 magnuse in norway we have a saying that you will hear the truth from small children and drunk people. i will be proposing an amendment to make it small children, drunk people and irc bots 13:15 drojf druthb! 13:16 talljoy hi magnuse! 13:16 talljoy hi druthb! 13:19 magnuse hi JesseM! 13:19 JesseM Hello magnuse 13:19 magnuse it's greet the usanians time! 13:20 JesseM :) 13:36 magnuse nah, it's time to call it a week, is what it is! 13:36 magnuse have fun #koha! 13:37 drojf norwegian weeks are short 13:38 drojf i guess they shrink because it's cold 13:42 mtompset bgkriegel++ # finally, 6874! 13:42 talljoy drojf++ 13:44 xarragon I have one question: Koha on a Windows server; is it possible? 13:44 Joubu NOOOOO 13:45 Joubu ;) 13:46 drojf and. WHY? /o\ 13:46 drojf :P 13:47 tcohen xarragon: it is possible, just launch a Debian 8 virtual machine on VirtualBox to run Koha 13:49 mtompset Joubu++ # I feel the same way 13:49 mtompset tcohen: You forgot to qualify that it is not recommended for production that way. :P 13:50 tcohen ah, but xarragon didn't ask that 13:50 drojf it's not not recommended either, is it? :P 13:51 tcohen :-P 13:51 mtompset tcohen is current RM for 3.20 -- kind of looks like one. 13:51 mtompset And if someone asks if a gun can kill a person, do you answer just yes? :P 13:52 mtompset drojf++ # Exactly, the intent is important 13:52 tcohen many people likes to run production stuff on top of the VirtualBox hypervisor, who cares if it is run on windows server or linux who runs the hypervisor? 13:53 tcohen we use Xen btw 13:53 drojf as long as dealing with the windows part is not my job, go for it ;) 13:54 mtompset drojf: It will be, because the next question will be how to do all the networking. 13:54 drojf i'd recommend a virtualbox irc channel :) 13:54 xarragon Nah, I was just curious. I saw there was some mailing list called koha-win32 back in 2007 or so. 13:54 tcohen drojf: exactly. as a Koha support provider I have clients that have their whole infrastructure built on Microsoft products, and provide me with a incredibly-performant Debian VPS to do my job 13:54 drojf (i suppose host-only adapter + nat adapter would work in windows too) 13:55 mtompset xarragon: The problem with trying to run koha natively on windows is a lack of libraries. 13:55 xarragon Also, Sweden is very Microsoft-centric, so many places will throw a hizzy-fit if they are asked to support anything that does not come with Solitaire and Minesweeper. 13:56 tcohen xarragon: heh 13:56 jcamins My experience with VirtualBox in production is that the host does not matter, it's going to be fussy regardless. 13:56 tcohen jcamins++ 13:56 mtompset xarragon: I actually tried to get it to work recently under a windows technical preview. 13:56 mtompset The missing perl libraries were the killer. 13:56 jcamins HyperV seems pretty good, though. 13:57 drojf tcohen: the library where i started working with koha had ms hyper-v as virtualisation host. while i would not touch that myself (and it seemed unreliable sometimes), koha worked fine 13:57 drojf heh 13:57 xarragon Okay, thanks for the info. I was just curious.. 13:58 tcohen Micro$oft is a top-10 linux kernel contributor, because they wanted near-perfect support for linux on hyper-v 13:58 jcamins bshum just mentioned HyperV working well in another channel. 13:58 tcohen top-20 13:59 drojf i remember at least one case where weird things happened with snapshots in hyperv. but i was not involved myself and it may have been user error too 13:59 barton I have a partner who wants to do date range searches on acquisition date from the OPAC 14:00 barton I'm guessing that this will require some changes to C4::Search 14:01 tcohen barton: probably to the queryparser? 14:02 tcohen barton: take a look at QueryParser 14:02 barton k. 14:03 tcohen it might be implemented already, and the problem would consist on a front-end thing 14:03 barton ok. 14:42 mtompset Have a great day. #koha. Need to reboot, etc. 14:59 indradg is there a specific reason why we don't have the AJAX suggest option for patrons search, while we have that facility during checkout? 15:09 cait i think maybe the different focus 15:09 cait when using patron search you are not looking for 'one specific' user 15:09 cait but for a group 15:14 indradg cait: ok! 15:24 reiveune bye 16:14 gaetan_B bye 16:14 indradg Joubu: you seem to be on a roll today! :) 16:37 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:13 tcohen how do we change the channel title?¿ 18:23 indradg @seen Joubu 18:23 huginn` indradg: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 38 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Joubu> ;) 18:30 David_ Hello all! 18:30 David_ Love Koha! 18:36 mtompset Greetings, indradg. :) 18:37 mtompset Perhaps /topic? 18:38 mtompset Perhaps with the help of bag chris_n gmcharlt jcamins rangi or wizzyrea too? 18:40 indradg greetings mtompset! your comment to aleisha added to my own meagre knowledge of perl :) 18:40 indradg thanks :) 18:40 mtompset Hey, share the knowledge. :) I only recently (less than a year ago) learned about it. :) 18:42 tcohen i liked this post from gmcharlt https://galencharlton.com/blog/2013/07/tutorial-perl-5-10-and-koha/ 18:44 * mtompset chuckles. 18:44 mtompset bug 10503 18:44 wahanui i heard bug 10503 was relevant 18:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10503 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , incorrect initialization parameters passed to Memoize::Memcached 18:45 mtompset So, is someone going to rescue it, gmcharlt? :) 18:47 mtompset wahanui: bug 10503 is also sitting at Failed QA for the last couple of years. 18:47 wahanui okay, mtompset. 18:47 mtompset bug 10503 18:47 wahanui bug 10503 is probably sitting at Failed QA for the last couple of years. 18:47 mtompset bug 10503 18:47 wahanui bug 10503 is sitting at Failed QA for the last couple of years. 18:47 mtompset bug 10503 18:47 wahanui rumour has it bug 10503 is sitting at Failed QA for the last couple of years 18:47 mtompset Nice variation, wahanui. :) 18:47 wahanui mtompset: sorry... 18:47 mtompset bug 10503 18:47 wahanui bug 10503 is relevant 18:48 tcohen is it true that the call is wrong? 18:48 mtompset which call? 18:49 tcohen we should ask the Memoize::Memcached maintainer 18:50 tcohen but i'd say memoize_memcached can handle both a Cache::Memcached object or a hashref of options flawlessly 18:50 mtompset Remember that discussion is 2+ years old. 18:51 tcohen http://search.cpan.org/~tcohen/Memoize-Memcached-0.04/lib/Memoize/Memcached.pm 18:51 tcohen i'll take a look mtompset 18:52 tcohen it might be worth making it more explicit (i.e. passing the actual params) 18:52 mtompset Just remember, you triggered this with your article link. :P 18:52 tcohen you don't blame google if you find something, right? 18:52 tcohen this is gmcharlt's fault :-P 18:53 * mtompset laughs hard. 18:53 tcohen bye #koha, heading home bbl 18:53 mtompset Bye, tcohen. 19:41 tcohen dcook: hi 19:44 mtompset Greetings again, tcohen 19:45 mtompset tcohen: If we take it back a level further, we should blame you. ;) 19:48 mtompset Does anyone have an authority MRC file I can import? 19:48 mtompset I just need some dummy data to actually have a search return something. 19:54 tcohen mtompset: how is that? 19:55 mtompset Well, yes, gmcharlt bug reported the problem, but it is regarding the module which you now maintain. 19:55 tcohen it looks like a WORKSFORME one 19:55 mtompset Sure, you could shift the blame back another level, but there's a limit to how far back you can pass blame. :) 19:56 tcohen from another pov, the patch author wants to change how we use that function, which is fair, but then is not a problem with the library itself 20:15 * andreashm wave 20:15 andreashm waves 20:19 tcohen hi andreashm 20:19 andreashm hi tcohen! 20:19 andreashm great work getting the beta out 20:19 mtompset Greetings, andreashm. 20:19 mtompset Easy sign off: bug 14076 20:19 andreashm hey mtompset 20:19 wahanui mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 20:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14076 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Noisy warns in opac-authorities-home.pl 20:21 andreashm ah, I like those easy ones. but I'm currently on vacation. =) 20:23 mtompset indradg: I bow to your MarcEdit in Linux expertise. :) 20:25 indradg heh 20:27 mtompset Is that you narrating the video? 20:27 andreashm jajm++ (REST API stuff) 20:27 mtompset I imagined a deeper voice. :) 21:04 rangi morning 21:04 rangi now you can change it 21:22 wizzyrea wizzyrea: 21:22 wizzyrea oops lol 21:22 wizzyrea hi 21:27 tcohen hm, no 21:27 tcohen help! 21:29 rangi hehe 21:31 tcohen can i give up? 21:31 rangi you cant have returns in your topic 21:31 rangi has to be all one line 21:32 rangi what do you actually want as the topic 21:32 tcohen heh 21:32 tcohen the original one, without the Elections for 3.22 sufix 21:32 tcohen Welcome to the IRC home of Koha http://koha-community.org | Code of conduct - http://koha-community.org/about/policy/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 21:33 tcohen i just wanted to know how to do it for when I call for a dev meeting 21:33 tcohen to put the date there 21:38 rangi right 21:39 rangi i write it in vim then paste it .. all one line 21:43 tcohen like TOPIC #koha <paste> 21:43 tcohen thanks rangi 21:44 rangi yep 21:45 rangi no worries 21:45 rangi also check this out 21:45 rangi http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/buenos-aires-flights 21:45 rangi direct argentina <-> nz flights now 21:45 rangi hint hint 21:45 rangi :) 21:46 wnickc is it not possible for staff to edit a patron's privacy preference? 21:46 tcohen oh my 21:46 tcohen =D 21:47 tcohen blink blink 21:47 * tcohen considers that cheap actually 21:47 rangi tcohen: yeah its less than i paid last year 21:47 rangi wnickc: hmm i think you can 21:48 wnickc i thought so too, but can't figure out how, i thought there was a pref 21:55 * Dyrcona was tempted to jump on a AirNZ flight yesterday. 21:56 Dyrcona Unfortunately, they probably would have realized I was on the wrong flight when it got to Los Angeles and would not have let me continue to Auckland. 21:56 rangi http://catalyst.net.nz/join-us/jobs 21:56 rangi :) 21:56 Dyrcona heh 21:56 rangi there is an urban myth of someone getting on a flight to Auckland 21:56 rangi instead of Oakland 21:56 Dyrcona heh 21:56 Dyrcona That's very hard today with e-tickets. 21:56 rangi yeah 21:57 * Dyrcona is in Hood River, Oregon at the Evergreen conference. 21:57 rangi ahh cool 21:57 * Dyrcona is supposed to be hacking Evergreen at the pre-conference hack fest. 21:57 rangi i must get to an Evergreen conference some day 21:57 Dyrcona I must come to a Koha conference one day. 21:58 wizzyrea hm, this password dev - what is the difference between "OpacPasswordChange" and "OpacResetPassword" 21:59 wizzyrea confusing. 21:59 rangi one allows them to change their password 21:59 rangi assuming they know it 21:59 rangi ie you login and can change your password 21:59 rangi the other lets them change it if they dont know it ;) 22:00 Dyrcona1 Whee! Conference wifi. 22:04 wizzyrea I just don't like the descriptions of those two, I think. Too close in meaning to be meaningfully different in the interface. I get that the function is different :D 22:06 rangi yeah 22:08 wizzyrea do we care if the password reset shows things like opacnav on a private catalogue? 22:09 rangi hmm probably yes 22:16 eythian hi 22:16 wahanui kia ora, eythian 22:28 wizzyrea I think "Library users are allowed | not allowed to recover their password via e-mail in the OPAC 22:28 wizzyrea " 22:28 wizzyrea the variable could easily be called "OpacRecoverPassword" but that just seems unnecessary :P 22:43 cdickinson @wunder nzwn 22:43 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on May 14, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 22:43 cdickinson lol "Light Rain Showers" 23:04 wizzyrea it might have been light at the time, not so much now.l