Time Nick Message 22:57 indradg hi anyone around? 21:26 mtompset thanks. :) 21:22 indradg on it 21:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Remove warnings from t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t 21:21 mtompset indradg: Care to try a tat on bug 13673? :) 20:36 indradg hiya mtompset 20:36 mtompset Greetings, indradg. :) 20:19 indradg hello #koha 20:10 mtompset lovely dumps and rejoins. :) 19:53 mtompset :) 19:53 mtompset wnickc: I suppose so. :_ 19:28 wnickc ah, time differences, weekend :) 19:15 wnickc ashimema: around? 17:48 huginn` chris_n: The operation succeeded. 17:48 chris_n @later tell khall I'll have to hold off on testing 14167 due to a stubborn zebra instance 17:23 mtompset Anyone who can tweak the zebra-biblios.cfg for the Jenkins D8... please look into doing something like that. 17:20 mtompset $ echo modulePath: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/idzebra-2.0/modules 17:20 mtompset $ vi ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg 17:19 mtompset I need to step out. 17:19 chris_n here 17:19 chris_n Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS 17:19 mtompset Enjoy your corrupted record. 17:19 chris_n nothing there 17:18 mtompset Because mine have some weirdness like that. :) 17:17 mtompset chris_n: Are you sure that they are not in ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/idzebra-2.0/modules? 17:16 chris_n its just been soooo long ago 17:16 * chris_n has 17:16 mtompset Haven't encountered that. Sorry. 17:15 chris_n looks like a corrupt record 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [warn] extract error: generic 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: ^ 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: <record 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: Extra content at the end of the document 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: error : 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: parser 17:15 chris_n 13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: Entity: line 188: 17:15 chris_n so here is a little more intelligence 17:12 mtompset Boo. 17:12 chris_n generic-- 17:12 chris_n and now I get the extremely descriptive error: zebraidx(3173) [warn] extract error: generic 17:12 chris_n now they are at: /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules 17:11 chris_n so it turns out that the zebra modules were not installed in-spite of installing idzebra-2.0 15:55 chris_n modulePath: /usr/lib 15:55 chris_n # modulePath - where to look for loadable zebra modules 15:55 chris_n /usr/lib/libidzebra-2.0.so.0.0.1 15:55 chris_n /usr/lib/libidzebra-2.0.so.0 15:54 chris_n yup 15:54 mtompset So the path entered matches where the modules actually are? 15:53 mtompset really?! 15:51 chris_n and changing the path does not fix things up... weird 15:50 chris_n strange, but on this ubuntu install the zebra modules appear in /usr/lib 15:39 mtompset 64-bit installs use lib64 not lib. :) 15:38 mtompset you need to edit the cfg files to point to the correct path. 15:38 mtompset the path is wrong. 15:38 mtompset I know how to solve that. :) 15:38 mtompset Click the link I just told tcohen. 15:37 chris_n or if it would cause searching to return no results after a reindex? 15:36 chris_n any idea what's going on here: 11:34:05-08/05 zebraidx(11939) [warn] No such record type: dom./home/cnighswonger/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml 15:35 * chris_n wishes his zebra would just get over it 15:35 mtompset So, I need to talk with people about the ministry I'm involved in. :) 15:34 mtompset Well, I survive based on donations. 15:34 mtompset Greetings, chris_n 15:34 * chris_n did not realize there were non-coding aspects to life... ;-) 15:33 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded. 15:33 mtompset @later tell tcohen I was noting https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2011-September/030492.html 15:33 wahanui mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 15:33 chris_n heya mtompset 15:17 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 15:16 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 49 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <tcohen> LOL 15:16 mtompset @seen tcohen 13:00 drojf how would i know what "security related features" they use? 12:54 drojf "you agree not to (or attempt to) circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with any security related features of the Service or features that (i) prevent or restrict use or copying of Content or (ii) enforce limitations on use of the Service or the content accessible via the Service;" 12:54 drojf "you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means as YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose;" 12:45 drojf actually i would argue those things are relevant to a library offering streams via youtube, not to koha as a project 12:40 drojf can't we hire a lawyer to read it, please? 12:39 drojf rule 2.4 of the youtube TOS says i should print the TOS. i am not reading this ^^ 12:37 magnuse bag: yes so it is, against all odds 12:28 bag good day magnuse 12:28 magnuse bag: HI 12:26 * liw has a thermos full of tea, brewed from leaves, and sips it while waiting for the work day to end 12:23 drojf lol 12:23 xarragon I am too lazy; I just drink hot water. 12:23 drojf oh. i should make an espresso too 12:21 bag espresso machine is at temp so I can make espresso 12:21 bag heh 12:21 bag :) 12:21 cait bag is always happy :P 12:21 drojf what are you so happy about, bag? :P 12:19 bag :) 12:14 magnuse true 12:14 magnuse trur 11:58 drojf the other option would be a new, exclusive youtube feature doing the regular youtube embedding that you find on blogs and stuff. but it would be a new feature, way less cool (i think :P) and people lose control over what is actually loaded/displayed in koha. 11:56 drojf that yould break immediately if youtube changes something ^^ 11:55 magnuse sounds like a nice piece of wizzardry :-) 11:54 drojf magnuse: i am not sure, i was wondering about that too. what is catalogued, is the regular url. the link to the webm file that is played is resolved on the fly, as it is not persistent, IP address bound and i don't know what other crazy things more. that is basically what is done once you open the website direcly in your browser and don't use flash 11:52 magnuse i don't know the terms of service, it just struck me as something they might not like 11:52 magnuse drojf: is it any chance that could be violating the terms of service? if you are playing youtube video without the "overlay interface"? or am i getting the wrong impression from that screengrab? 11:49 drojf it adds a dependency that is packaged in jessie, but not in wheezy though :/ 11:48 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:48 drojf @later tell nengard got a youtube video working with direct access to the web file (the first option we talked about). :) http://abunchofthings.net/koha/dev/koha-youtube.png 11:48 magnuse yay 11:47 drojf no it's adding youtube to the video streaming. it's a pretty small patch actually 11:47 drojf oh those tests i never learned how to do 11:47 cait as long as enh is not implementing something completely new 11:46 cait that would be my take on it 11:46 cait heh, but not RM 11:46 drojf you are ruler of QA land, aren't you? 11:46 cait you can enhance, but has to be covered by a unit test 11:46 cait huh? 11:42 drojf that is probably a cait question ;) 11:40 drojf how is the policy these days? can i enhance something in a C4 module.pm file, or does it have to go out of C4 then? 11:36 cait there is also a whole set of unit tests for it 11:36 cait did you turn it on? 11:35 cait kivilahtio: it is used to my knowledge yes 11:34 kivilahtio I think I'll take the matrix because they are much more informative 11:33 kivilahtio But I donät know should the floating be controlled by a matrix or a view like "Library Transfer Limits" 11:31 kivilahtio Also I need to implement similar floating control for Items than the transport cost matrix is 11:29 kivilahtio afaik in 3.16 it does nothing 11:29 kivilahtio Any idea is the UseTransportCostMatrix used anywhere? 11:16 drojf hei magnuse 11:16 magnuse moin drojf 11:10 drojf hi #koha 10:59 markvandenborre y 10:59 markvandenborre I remember you being really helpful when I was setting up koha for our music academ 10:59 markvandenborre even if it was meant for marcelr 10:59 markvandenborre cait: hi you too 08:15 magnuse MARC-- 07:41 cait was looking for marcelr :) 07:41 cait oh 07:41 cait hi markvandenborre 07:37 dcook Laterz all 06:46 magnuse hooray for bgkriegel! 06:27 cdickinson did someone say... beer? :D 06:27 * dcook isn't sure what else to contribute 06:27 dcook Beer, beer, beer 06:08 eythian well, there's a fresh hop thing happening at a bar here that I'm thinking of heading to, but beer o'clock was looking pretty quiet today. 06:08 magnuse beer o'clock came and went already? 06:07 magnuse kia ora eythian 05:57 eythian hi magnuse 05:56 * magnuse waves 04:52 Francesca oh good I have company 04:51 cdickinphone Popped out for a bit 04:49 cdickinphone Just 04:43 Francesca anyone around? 04:43 wahanui Francesca: huh? 04:43 Francesca wahanui has the right idea 04:42 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 04:42 Francesca interesting 04:35 cdickinphone Whoops 04:30 cdickinson can't even spell properly 04:30 cdickinson Harmony* 04:29 cdickinson Harmnony test? what's that going to be like? 04:29 cdickinson :P 04:28 Francesca I can imagine 04:28 Francesca I have a harmony test on monday 04:28 cdickinson basically on all that sort of technology, honours-level stuff. It was hell 04:28 Francesca fun 04:28 cdickinson a Mobile Computing one 04:27 Francesca what kinda test? 04:27 cdickinson hi Francesca, just got destroyed by a test :P 04:26 cdickinson you're a sight for sore eyes 04:26 * Francesca waves at cdickinson 04:10 Francesca ibeardslee: sup 04:03 * ibeardslee waves back 03:49 * Francesca waves at ibeardslee 03:48 papa yep, that lot 03:47 ibeardslee papa: fairfax .. aren't they a news site without grammar, spelling and fact checkers? 03:47 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea papa Francesca 03:47 papa yeah, perl is not cool enough for fairfax any more 03:47 Francesca it is 03:46 wizzyrea I'm told that's a thing cats do ^.^ 03:46 Francesca and I am procrastinating badly on a journal 03:46 mtompset 2048. ;) 03:46 Francesca my kitties are slowly destroying a box 03:46 wizzyrea hi Francesca 03:46 wizzyrea node.js I mean 03:46 Francesca good afternoon 03:46 wizzyrea papa: they are making you do note.js now? 03:45 mtompset Anyways. I should sleep. 03:45 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 03:45 mtompset Never mind. 03:45 papa yeah, I confused it] 03:45 mtompset Oh... your work. 03:45 mtompset No, TransformHtmlToXml 03:39 papa sorry, I'm doing some node.js and my brain is vapourised, it was XSLTParse4Display() 03:37 papa zilch 03:33 mtompset Could you post what tests, if any, you have on the bug? 03:32 mtompset No, it is a useful bug... ind_tag isn't used at all. 03:32 mtompset pianohacker: You are too funny. :) 03:32 papa anyway, I thought indicators were an abandoned concept, so if I'm wrong please destroy that bug 03:31 papa ah yes, still in the process 03:31 mtompset Nothing in master. 03:30 papa didn't I make some when doing that too many calls to item details thing? 03:30 pianohacker that function name alone fills me with terror and doubt 03:30 pianohacker ... 03:28 mtompset We don't even have any test coverage of the TransformHtmlToXml function. 03:28 * mtompset grumbles. 03:20 papa it was a long time ago... 03:20 papa well sure, at least I sparked some interest ;) 03:19 mtompset I see lots of indicator1 indicator2 type things on template files. 03:19 mtompset From what I can tell, it should be used, but whether it gets passed and processed properly is another issue. :) 03:18 mtompset ind_tag is obviously not used. 03:18 papa yeah, painful :) 03:17 mtompset Why did you remove indicators though? 03:17 papa ah that one 03:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Remove unused params from TransformHtmlToXml() 03:17 mtompset That's when I decided to search for ind_tag, and I found your bug 11247 papa 03:17 mtompset ind_tag wasn't even used. 03:16 mtompset When I noticed something cringe worthy in C4/Biblio.pm 03:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Errors when acquiring from the new improved staged file, empty indicator warning 03:16 mtompset I was looking at bug 13180 03:16 wahanui eh, are there other packages than Debian? 03:16 papa eh, what? 03:15 mtompset Hey, papa found it last year. 03:11 pianohacker mtompset: that rings vague bells 03:11 mtompset pianohacker: Care to confirm that many a program are trying to get and pass a non-existent ind_tag parameter? :) 03:06 pianohacker hallo 03:06 mtompset Oh Lord God of computing be merciful to dcook. :) 03:05 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker. 03:05 dcook Come on DSpace... I have the extra dependencies installed already... just work, son 03:05 dcook yo pianohacker 03:05 dcook Nah, I'm heaps busy atm 02:59 mtompset maybe dcook is crazy enough? :) 02:59 wizzyrea ^.^ 02:58 wizzyrea I try not to look in there. 02:58 mtompset wizzyrea: Want a good laugh? take a look at C4/Biblio.pm look for sub TransformHtmlToXml. Notice the parameter list. Try looking for ind_tag in the file, and then laugh and cry. 02:57 mtompset ARG! Why do I find more bugs when I am looking at bugs. 02:47 wizzyrea good luck - oh drat he's gone. 02:44 bairie thanks guys!! 02:44 bairie i will come here if i got prob 02:44 bairie ok...i will go throug the docs 02:44 dcook We use custom displays that allow clients to show RDA fields which aren't necessarily shown at the moment in Koha 02:44 dcook All you need is an up-to-date MARC Bibliographic Framework 02:43 dcook Yeah, we have heaps of libraries using RDA 02:42 bairie any of u have done it? 02:41 dcook I'll have to remember the wiki one as well 02:41 dcook We actually had some outdated RDA frameworks, so my to do list has a task for double-checking frameworks here 02:41 dcook Hehe. True as. 02:41 wizzyrea you should update it if you have a newer one ;) 02:41 wizzyrea Oh? 02:41 dcook I think that one is out of date nowadays 02:39 wizzyrea ^ you can get it from there 02:38 wahanui rumour has it RDA framework is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Export_RDA.sql 02:38 wizzyrea RDA framework? 02:38 wizzyrea you might need a framework 02:38 wizzyrea and it's getting better at displaying it 02:38 wizzyrea answer is: koha can ingest RDA 02:38 wizzyrea it's getting better 02:38 eythian I think there's some support in the newest versions, but I'm not sure how complete it is 02:37 bairie just wondering whether this koha can be work with RDA? 02:37 eythian np, pity it wasn't useful 02:37 bairie thanks for ur help guys 02:37 bairie ok..it seems that i cannot do anything with the database 02:36 eythian the crash recovery stuff should fix that. 02:36 eythian that suggests that mysql was improperly shut down at some point. 02:34 bairie the sequence data in ibdata files not match...thats the error written 02:34 wizzyrea the time for recovery is long since past, it would seem. 02:34 eythian we still don't have really enough information to do much more than speculate. 02:33 eythian dunno. 02:33 bairie is that mean anything? 02:33 bairie on 2nd April...got error said database not properly shutdown..starting crash recovery 02:33 eythian yes, but if you have only what is on that machine, it is all gone because everything since 2012 has gone from that machine. 02:33 wizzyrea I'm sorry, as far as we can tell, it's gone. 02:32 eythian because snapshots apply to the whole disk 02:32 bairie i have access the mysql log 02:32 eythian Also, if it is (as it looks) an old snapshot, then all that would be gone anyway. 02:32 wizzyrea by default it only keeps 2 days 02:32 eythian if you use packages, then it's backed up elsewhere on the system. But you've been running it with bad data for three months, any backups would have long rolled over. 02:31 bairie can this database stored somewhere in the koha mysql folder or something? 02:30 eythian you don't have the database, vmware has presumably swallowed it. 02:30 wizzyrea not if you don't have a backup :( 02:30 bairie owh ok...so there is no way i can retrieve back the database rite? 02:30 eythian If you have no external backups, and vmware doesn't have a more correct snapshot somewhere, your data is almost certainly gone. 02:29 eythian OK, so you probably don't have useful log data. 02:29 bairie so like 1 month plus 02:29 eythian then anything useful is almost certainly gone 02:29 bairie it was happen on 30th mar 02:28 bairie 3 months 02:28 eythian how long? 02:28 bairie yes 02:28 eythian so you've been running this for quite a while before discovering the issue? 02:28 bairie on the top is may 6th 02:28 eythian the dates. still the dates. 02:27 bairie ok...what i should find here? 02:27 bairie wait 02:27 eythian ok, so try syslog.2.gz 02:26 bairie sorry...rangi ask me to look at syslog.1 02:26 bairie as u said 02:26 bairie i open syslog.1 02:26 eythian what one did you actually end up looking in? 02:26 eythian yes, and you said there are two files 02:26 bairie and im not sure what file to look at 02:26 bairie open the syslog 02:26 bairie im not sure....thats u guys ask me to do 02:25 eythian what file are you looking in? 02:25 bairie may 7th 02:25 eythian what is the date at the top of the file? 02:25 wizzyrea there won't be, because all of that data is gone. 02:24 bairie not the database 02:24 bairie i mean the log 02:24 bairie there is no record on the incident date 02:24 eythian yesterday is still in 2015 02:24 bairie last record only for yesterday 02:24 eythian yes, you will need to scroll a lot 02:23 bairie a lot...need to scroll down 02:23 eythian when is the last date before 2015 in those files, and how does it correspond with what you expect 02:22 eythian every log entry has a date 02:22 eythian the date of the log entries 02:22 * Francesca waves goodbye 02:22 bairie rite? 02:22 bairie then i should see which date? the incident date 02:21 rangi id look at syslog.1 02:21 wahanui which one is that? The fixed navbar? 02:21 bairie which one 02:21 bairie syslong and syslog.1 02:21 bairie got two syslog here.... 02:20 bairie any keyword? 02:20 wizzyrea if it goes 2012, 2012, 2012, 2012, 2015, you'll know. 02:20 rangi but you can look back in the file, and see what the dates in it are 02:20 rangi what the syslog will do is confirm that the snapshot it restored from was 2012, it wont let you fix it 02:19 bairie what i need to find inside? 02:19 bairie ok wait...i think i can access the syslog... 02:19 rangi im sorry 02:18 rangi but without a 2015 snapshot .. or backups .. there is not really anything we can do, if you had a db backup we could tell you how to load that in, but without the backup we cant help 02:18 rangi i would also try asking the support company you stopped paying if they have any backups 02:17 rangi the short story is, it is not a koha problem, but a vmware one .. so we can't help im sorry, you will probably need to find a vmware expert 02:16 rangi yep, so before that latest snapshot, it was restored to 2012 02:16 bairie same with the original image currently used 02:16 bairie in vmware, if the machine was not proper shutdown, it will be created a snapshot...even i use this snapshot, data still in 2012 02:15 wizzyrea at least, that's what the evidence you've presented suggests. 02:15 wizzyrea everything on the machine, right now, is from the last snapshot, which was in 2012 02:15 rangi somehow you/vmware restored a snapshot from 2012 02:15 bairie system was setup on 2011..... 02:15 rangi its everything 02:15 rangi its not just the database 02:15 rangi no 02:14 bairie understand that rangi. but how come database could be loss? and rollback to 2012? if lost...should be lost everything rite? 02:14 dcook ^ 02:14 rangi bairie: you would need a back up of the database .. and you could restore from that, but without a back up, or a recent snapshot there really is nothing you can do 02:13 dcook rangi: Ah. I didn't notice that in the scrollback. 02:13 bairie even the books record also was on 2012 02:13 bairie no data on the latest database 02:13 Francesca ok 02:13 dcook Francesca: Ahh, yeah. This was just the system root password 02:13 bairie it just shows record on 2012 02:13 * Francesca waves at rangi 02:13 bairie ok...when the librarian open their database to check on book loan and book data entry 02:13 Francesca and I always forget my apple password 02:12 rangi dcook: the logs are from 2012 .. the whole machine is from 2012 02:12 Francesca some things (apple) make you choose a new password everytime 02:12 dcook Francesca: Hmm? 02:12 dcook bairie: Also, what data are you looking at that makes you think it's from 2012? 02:12 Francesca you can do that? 02:12 eythian you need to have that data somewhere 02:12 eythian bairie: you need to have something to recover from to get the latest data back. 02:12 dcook Francesca: Hehe. I ended up resetting it to the exact same password that it was before :p 02:12 Francesca I've done the same thing before 02:11 * Francesca laughs at dcooks password story 02:11 bairie i not fimiliar with koha...that's why asking ur guys whether i can retrieved back the latest database 02:11 dcook mysql commandline? mysql query browser? Koha? 02:11 dcook How is one seeing this data? 02:11 dcook Which table in the database? 02:11 dcook I'm also curious about "the database only shows data from year 2012" 02:10 wizzyrea but not having an up-to-date snapshot would. 02:10 dcook ^ 02:10 eythian Linux/mysql doesn't just forget a chunk of data. 02:10 * dcook did this at Kohacon13 before realizing that he'd been typing in the wrong password all along and that he actually knew what the password was... d'oh 02:10 eythian Not convinced it'll help though, my money is on something happening at the vmware layer. 02:09 eythian yeah, if you can get console access to it, you could reset it. 02:09 dcook You could probably just reset your root password if the server is just for Koha 02:09 bairie aaarghhh.... 02:06 wizzyrea bummer, I was kinda hoping. 02:04 bairie work 02:04 bairie doesnt wor 02:04 bairie wizzyrea: nope 02:03 wizzyrea (for the root password) 02:01 wizzyrea bairie: try katikoan 01:58 bairie ahhh shitt....what is the su password... 01:57 Francesca but in the mean time I'll do little bits of work and stuff in between school work 01:57 wizzyrea that would be cool :D 01:56 Francesca I'll try and stick my head in during mid year 01:55 wizzyrea ah yeah, school comes first :) 01:55 Francesca unis really busy so I won't be able to get a lot of work done till mid year break 01:55 Francesca I thought I'd just let u know that I can't spend much time on here atm 01:54 Francesca not much 01:54 wizzyrea a bit, sup? 01:54 Francesca wizzyrea, rangi you guys around? 01:52 * Francesca waves 01:50 bairie sudo dont have.....try to find the root pwd 01:48 eythian it'll be hard to do much without a root password. 01:48 eythian do you have an account with sudo? 01:47 bairie only the vendor knows 01:47 bairie owh shit...i need a root pwd 01:45 eythian they have dates in there 01:45 eythian have a look inside the files 01:45 wizzyrea yeah, you booted it today :/ 01:45 bairie but this two files dates are dated today 01:44 bairie syslog got two files here...syslog and syslog.1 01:44 rangi but if lots of the files are still 2012 then its likely you restored a snapshot from 2012 by accident, or vmware did something broken 01:43 rangi then yes, its definitely a vmware problem, try looking inside the syslog 01:43 eythian syslog usually has the most stuff in it 01:43 wahanui well, a lot is possible already without having to rewrite the templates 01:43 bairie a lot.... 01:43 rangi they should all be 2015 01:43 rangi are there any that have 2012 ? 01:42 bairie there are so many file here,....which one i should referred? 01:40 wahanui it has been said that the date is circled ;) 01:40 rangi what is the date? 01:40 eythian What do the dates tell you about the system and the missing data? 01:40 bairie ok..i can see the date...so what i need to do next? 01:39 rangi ah yep that would be good to check too 01:38 eythian well I was thinking the dates inside the file, that way you can tell the last shutdown before the recent startup 01:37 rangi should show you the dates 01:37 rangi ls -l 01:36 eythian see what the date before the recent dates is. 01:36 wahanui the dates are in format yyyy-mm-dd 01:36 eythian the dates 01:36 bairie so which i should check 01:36 bairie and i can see all the log 01:36 bairie ive tried this var/log/syslog 01:33 rangi cd /var/log/ 01:33 rangi just try 01:33 rangi no 01:31 bairie i have entered /var/log/directory 01:25 eythian y 01:25 eythian because I've never seen a system with no /var/log director 01:25 eythian what did you actually enter? 01:24 bairie also return same statement,. no file or directory 01:23 rangi maybe take a look at the syslog 01:23 bairie ok. wait a min 01:23 rangi the next place to look would by in the /var/log/ directory 01:23 rangi darn, not installed via packages 01:23 bairie i have tried to /var/spool/koha but it said no such file or directory 01:21 eythian however, what you should first verify is if that's what really happened. 01:20 eythian you'd probably only need access to the vmware console to roll back a snapshot 01:20 bairie however, the vendor did not have any access to the server. so i cannot say it is a sabotage frm the vendor 01:19 wizzyrea :( 01:19 bairie this server was taken care by an external vendor...because we didnt renew the contract, no maintenance was done...when this vendor come, he said that the database was lost 01:18 wizzyrea https://38.media.tumblr.com/84f5706bf380a60b87e7751102d52f0a/tumblr_nnw5r3i8x81se6q8so4_400.gif < why we do backups 01:18 eythian hmm, I need to find something more interesting to be that factoid. 01:18 wahanui backups are every night...and nothing changed this morning 01:18 eythian wahanui: backups 01:18 eythian you had thousands of records with no backups? that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I guess it has to happen to everyone some time... 01:17 bairie wait....let me go inside the server 01:17 rangi what is in there? 01:17 rangi actually just do ls /var/spool/koha 01:17 rangi what is your koha instance called? 01:17 bairie what should i look into /var/spool/koha? any specific file? 01:16 bairie and bad thing is there is no backup was done 01:15 bairie i really not fimiliar with this.... 01:13 rangi yeah 01:13 eythian but, if vmware did a rollback on you, probably the only option you have is to restore from your external backups. 01:13 rangi for backups 01:13 rangi also if you installed with packages, check /var/spool/koha/ 01:10 eythian bairie: that really sounds like an issue with vmware and its disk images/snapshots. I'd check your system logs and see if the jump in dates is what you'd expect. 01:09 bairie i'm not even good at mysql 01:09 bairie thousands of book records was lost due to this issue...i have no idea how to solve it 01:08 ibeardslee ok 01:08 bairie and its only snapshot available...there is no other snapshot created previously 01:07 bairie ibeardslee: i have did that and it's running the existing snapshot 01:07 ibeardslee check dates/times on the system to check that all is ok and you are running the version of koha and ubuntu you expect to be running 01:06 ibeardslee first thing to check would be if you running a snapshot of the filesystem as of 2012 01:03 bairie how can this happen? 01:03 bairie there is no latest data up to 2014 /2015 01:02 bairie recently it was down...when i turn back on....the database only shows data from year 2012 01:02 bairie i have an issue....i hosted a koha system in ubuntu in a vmware 01:00 ibeardslee people are usually about, although not usually sitting waiting for someone with a problem ;) 00:59 ibeardslee bairie: normal suggested process is to just ask. 00:54 bairie is there any koha expert here? need some assistant 00:54 wahanui i think anyone is free to organize one at any time :-) 00:54 bairie anyone? 00:54 bairie hello? 00:53 bairie hi..can i request some help here? 00:48 dcook :D 00:48 dcook I love when a website has a limit on password length, but it doesn't enforce it in the frontend, which means you create an account with a truncated password... but you don't know at what point they truncated it 00:40 dcook Anywho... *wanders off again* 00:40 dcook And of course you get shell access with AWS O_o 00:40 dcook Of course, it's an American company, so it might still count under American law? 00:39 dcook AWS has heaps of servers outside the US 00:33 mtompset Nor after 180 days its their data. 00:33 mtompset But do you get shell access with AWS? And AWS is hosted in the US. Not keen on the patriot act. 00:30 dcook Hmm, I guess that comment was hours ago... 00:29 dcook If you just need space, go with AWS?