Time  Nick           Message
23:19 tcohen         heh
23:19 tcohen         hey
23:19 eythian        bye tcohen
23:19 eythian        hi tcohen
23:18 tcohen         night #koha
22:54 BobB           good morning
22:34 wizzyrea       lol.
22:32 wizzyrea       that is...
22:14 eythian        http://mountainsofmouthness.com/
22:09 eythian        hi
21:53 cait           hi tcohen
21:53 tcohen         hi cait
21:37 cait           s
21:37 * cait         wave
21:34 tcohen         hey
21:33 rangi          hi tcohen
21:33 tcohen         hi wahanui
21:33 wahanui        niihau, tcohen
21:33 tcohen         hi
21:02 mtompset       indradg: Are you having problems with 14103?
20:46 drojf          good night #koha
20:17 andreashm      hey cait, mtompset
20:16 cait           hi andreashm :)
20:16 mtompset       Greetings, andreashm.
20:16 * andreashm    waves
20:10 mtompset       bgkriegel++ # YAY! I love sign-offs on my bugs. :)
20:04 mtompset       Sweet! The first of my many 'prove t' cleanups signed off (14113) :)
20:02 mtompset       Thanks.
19:58 indradg        mtompset: on it!
19:58 mtompset       indradg: So, can I ask you to look at and sign off 14103? :)
19:51 cait           sorry, I can't type tonight :)
19:51 cait           there
19:51 cait           if they are used for all th esms modules i think they should be here
19:51 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
19:51 mtompset       cait: bug 14135 is signed off. ;)
19:50 indradg|dinner although tbh, I couldnt understand why SMSSendUsername / SMSSendPassword aren't already there as msging params
19:49 cait           just that it's become a bit rare - and we should definitely fix the Free as a bug
19:49 cait           not saying it's not valid to use them :)
19:48 indradg|dinner cait: SMSSendUsername / SMSSendPassword... my own undoing
19:48 mtompset       Beyond the scope of this bug.
19:48 cait           mtompset: it's an old part of Koha - local use are not much used these days
19:48 mtompset       I just changed INTRAdidyoumean to a "DoesThisBreakThis" type.
19:48 indradg|dinner only came to my notice after I had a rough time supporting a client on phone who kept complaining that it was not working
19:47 mtompset       Oh my! There's no validation on the value entered as the type?!
19:47 indradg|dinner mtompset: i thought so, but it looked so trivial that i didn't set it as a 'fix'
19:42 mtompset       It should have been in the list in the first place.
19:42 mtompset       indradg|dinner: BTW, I don't think this is an enhancement. This is a fix.
19:39 mtompset       Yes. :)
19:38 indradg        aah... your workaround fix for the PDF::FromHTML?
19:37 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
19:37 mtompset       bug 14103
19:37 mtompset       Can I get a tit-for-tat?
19:37 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
19:37 indradg        trying to coax people to sign off on a silly little patch bug 14135
19:36 mtompset       What's new with you?
19:35 indradg        Greetings! mtompset
19:34 mtompset       Greetings, indradg.
18:45 * mtompset     chuckles, "Let's all play the blame game. Where everyone loses!"
18:43 khall          mtompset: if a plugin has errors, it just doesn't show up in Koha. I don't like that at all but I had to do it to get it passed qa. Blame jcamins ; )
18:43 tcohen         bye #koha, have a nice evening/night/morning
18:42 tcohen         eythian made great progress conveniently packaging them
18:42 * mtompset     gasps, "Say it isn't so!"
18:42 tcohen         i built them and reused across the servers
18:42 khall          : )=
18:42 tcohen         the jenkins nodes already have a packaged version of the dependencies installed, because there's no point flooding people
18:42 mtompset       BTW, failures over the plugin is pretty ugly. Bad khall. ;)
18:41 tcohen         once I finish polishing the beta i'll take on the remaining bugfixes
18:40 tcohen         ah, I see
18:34 mtompset       http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/39/console
18:33 mtompset       BTW, tcohen I think that might solve the jenkins issues.
18:31 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
18:31 mtompset       There... improved test coverage. :) bug 14103. YAY! :)
18:30 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14018: Ordering from suggestion shows 'copy. year:2014' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e7c6e0bcba7726e10d2d97ca7fb034547c7d306> / Bug 14075: Undefined value creates noisy warns in C4::AuthoritiesMarc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf6ded93e8035c446aecd29ce6f688d1c4fcd52b>
18:12 tcohen         magnuse: for instance in $(koha-list) ; do echo "$instance:"`xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/listen[@id="publicserver"]' /etc/koha/sites/$instance/koha-conf.xml | cut -d':' -f3` ; done
18:03 tcohen         of the value from 3.12
18:03 tcohen         so need to script the extraction
18:02 tcohen         we have that new handy --enable-sru option, and --sru-port of course
18:02 tcohen         i'm scripting my 3.12 > 3.18 migration
18:02 cait           tcohen
18:01 magnuse        xmlstarlet sel -t -v "//_:datafield[@tag='099']/_:subfield[@code='h']" /path/to/file.marcxml | sort | uniq -c :-)
17:57 tcohen         cait
17:57 tcohen         ciat: xmlstarlet
17:57 cait           tcohen: hm?
17:55 tcohen         what was the tool for extracting data from xml on cli?
17:43 nengard        hehe
17:42 tcohen         will try to take a look
17:42 tcohen         nengard: :-P
17:41 Bovinity       Meh, can do nearly every operation via URL in Koha except add items. Bit of a bummer.
17:40 nengard        per my email
17:40 nengard        and the thing is the manual shouldn't be failing - it's jenkins that's failing
17:40 nengard        I get 7 or 8 everytime I do the manual
17:39 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12135: Fix suggestions table width <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55a9ed6ac3e6a5236bd2dc7c6b32d35b9edb5ff8> / Bug 10976: Fix typo itemtype vs itemtypes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=856887abcf0468191ecd35b6d9b4e6a36e7a4407> / Bug 14129: templates.readme is outdated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2731ee8bfea2190dabe69c
17:39 nengard        tcohen - i don't want false emails
17:36 tcohen         it's been over a week ago that Chris fixed jenkins so it starts sending emails, which wasn't doing correctly
17:29 nengard        and still no resolution
17:29 nengard        it was a over a week ago that i sent the email though
17:29 nengard        jenkins keeps emailing me telling me that the manual is failing - but it's not
17:29 tcohen         great
17:29 nengard        tcohen - i emailed the koha list about it
17:28 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13364: (QA followup) missing id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4381be9a460e319a8136c450033906b8b173c312>
17:28 tcohen         nengard: wrong warnings about the docs?
17:24 misilot        Hi, I was wondering if with the MARC Modification templates if there is a way to a barcode similar to the __CURRENTDATE__ macro?
17:23 barton         Does anyone know of any repositories of templates for notices and slips? I didn't see any on the wiki, but it would be nice to have something similar to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library, allowing libraries to share templates for notices. ... I saw this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:Report which made me a bit reluctant to create a new page from scratch.
17:18 mtompset       Greetings, magnuse.
17:18 magnuse        hiya mtompset
17:18 mtompset       # At this point, there is a problem with the AutoCommit off
17:18 mtompset       # FIXME
17:18 mtompset       I was looking into improving test coverage on a bug... and noticed this...
17:17 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
17:16 nengard        which it isn't!!!
17:16 nengard        just wish jenkins would stop emailing me to say the manual is failing
17:16 tcohen         nengard: not too many, don't worry
17:16 nengard        lots done today: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
17:15 nengard        well whenever tcohen is done then I need to get those help files up to date - so manual work continues :)
17:15 magnuse        nengard++ for keeping the manual up to date
17:15 magnuse        well, it is too late to get new features qa'ed and into 3.20, but tcohen still has some features that were qa'ed before the deadline that he can push, i think
17:14 nengard        trying to keep the manual up to date so when it's time for feature freeze ... oh wait did that happen? ... I can update help files
17:12 nengard        magnuse it seemed like the logical assumption but I did not put that in the manual just in case :)
17:11 magnuse        or so i gather :-)
17:11 magnuse        coce solves the problem of multiple cover sources, but outside koha, so yes, if you enable coce you probably want to disable all other cover sources
17:10 magnuse        fredericdem would be the one to talk to, i think
17:10 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9580 new feature, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cover image from Coce, a remote image URL cache
17:10 magnuse        nengard: see bug 9580
17:00 tcohen         for french academic libraries usage me thinks
17:00 tcohen         it is an authority database
17:00 tcohen         maybe ask paul_p, he can point you to the right people
16:57 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12253: Fix MARCUrls in basket <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a923f9cc666d3186d70299d0e18530c2bc26e97> / Bug 13982: Checkouts table not sorting on correct column <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35acace47f6f2e10451563d6a8cc1a70810f63dc>
16:51 nengard        i'll need some more explanation for the manual then
16:50 tcohen         nengard_afk: it is unimarc + french + sudoc specific
16:25 nengard        anyone around who can answer a question about Coce - I'm writing the manual and I assume that if you have this on you want the other cover image options off
16:04 xarragon       I guess the bug state itself would be most telling.
16:03 xarragon       When looking at bugs in the tracker, is there an easier way to tell if they have been pushed and merged than git log and seaching for the ID?
15:58 gaetan_B       bye
15:47 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14148: marc import broken if plugins are not enabled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=115c4f348eb89e6eb0f25a823265d11135d72788>
15:31 Bovinity       So is there any rhyme or reason to the fact that additems.pl seems to be the only page I can find that uses randomized html field IDs?
15:28 nengard        hellooooo
15:22 Bovinity       Hellooooo
15:17 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13364: Use SQL placeholder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaaf290073dc50d0427732dbc1dd98d330a4b1ce> / Bug 13364: Remove unused JS functions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d922f36ef5bb4c7f6cc853669232edbc65377a84> / Bug 13364: Fix table id + software error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8b1f7c4ca7937ac21d42c93df648ab77
14:23 * Oak          waves
14:15 cait           francharb and  blou are the same company - but probably a bad time for canada?
14:15 cait           i think i haven't seen him here
14:12 huginn`        tcohen: I have not seen simith.
14:12 tcohen         @seen simith
14:11 tcohen         is simith around?
13:45 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14057: Inventory is painfully slow <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e0468e8c2587fa4f51cb22b59ac5466383bbab1> / Bug 14056: Small punctuation error in description for deleting a holiday <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24e0c1b756945517e4ec02af81bc761128b1a907> / Bug 12192: Template toolkit code in HTML attributes is picked up into po-files <http://git.koha-
13:09 cait           hi tcohen :)
13:05 tcohen         hi cait
13:05 huginn`        cait: The operation succeeded.
13:05 cait           @later tell andreashm ping me if you are around sometime? :)
12:24 tcohen         I hope people have the chance to test the blockers we have
12:24 * tcohen       will resume pushing for the beta in a couple hours
12:23 magnuse        nah, we should be thanking you, profusely
12:17 tcohen         thanks guys
12:17 tcohen         i was reading the logs
12:17 tcohen         heh
12:14 magnuse        (that was a very popular brand of clothes in norway in the 80's)
12:14 magnuse        poco loco!
12:13 tcohen         are you nuts?
12:13 tcohen         really?
12:13 magnuse        oh wait, we really did do that
12:12 magnuse        we just elected you for a third run as rm. tee hee.
12:12 tcohen         hola magnuse!
12:12 magnuse        ¡hola tcohen!
11:58 cait           davidnind++ #wiki
11:39 eythian_       Oh, working now
11:38 eythian_       Curious
11:35 davidnind      Looks okay on my mobile phone - 5" Motorola Moto G2 (Firefox + Chrome)
11:34 * thd          sleeps
11:33 eythian_       Could be ;-)
11:32 thd            eythian_: Perhaps your ISP is merely trying to protect you from wiki evils ;)
11:32 eythian_       I assume it's some broken mobile detection.
11:31 davidnind      Looks okay to me - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatau_%28TV_series%29
11:29 eythian_       thd: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/public.php?service=files&t=CBthPZUvgHljZNg
11:29 davidnind      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4122348/
11:27 thd            eythian_: In what way is it broken for you?
11:24 eythian_       And Wikipedia is quite broken for me right now, oddly.
11:23 eythian_       Well I'm only on ep2, but I'm liking it so far :-)
11:22 thd            eythian_: The Wikipedia article needs a link to any favourable or non-US review.
11:19 * eythian_     returns to watching Tatau on BBC. I recommend it.
11:19 drojf          i'll try that after lunch :D
11:19 thd            Sleep at last will be even better than lunch ;)
11:18 drojf          lunch sounds like a good idea
11:18 cait           np.. next meeting at 2 for me, i better run :)
11:17 fridolin       thanks again cait
11:17 fridolin       miammmm
11:16 cait           time for lunch :) bbiab
11:15 eythian_       cait++
11:15 drojf          cait++
11:15 davidnind      cait++
11:15 cait           thx all for attending!
11:15 huginn`        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015.2015-05-06-10.01.log.html
11:15 huginn`        Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015.2015-05-06-10.01.txt
11:15 huginn`        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015.2015-05-06-10.01.html
11:15 huginn`        Meeting ended Wed May  6 11:15:14 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
11:15 cait           #endmeeting
11:15 cait           otherwise please send to the mailing list suggesting another time :)
11:14 cait           noone said veto ;)
11:14 cait           #agreed Next Meeting will be held on 10 June 2015 - 20 UTC
11:14 eythian_       AU must be +10, so quite early
11:14 eythian_       So NZ is +12
11:13 eythian_       We're on ST now.
11:13 davidnind      okay with 20
11:13 eythian_       But that's just me, I'm sure I can irc from bed :-)
11:13 thd            The question about daylight savings in NZ and Australia was put at the last development meeting
11:13 cait           any vetos on 20?
11:12 eythian_       20 is better for me, due to more likely being awake.
11:12 davidnind      7 am in NZ
11:12 wahanui        well, eythian is an expert bot trainer
11:12 cait           or eythian?
11:12 cait           davidnind: does that work for nz?
11:12 davidnind      http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+IRC+General+Meeting&iso=20150610T19
11:12 thd            We should probably keep 19 UTC for those not here now to suggest.
11:11 drojf          sorry, tried to unconfuse :D
11:11 cait           so what should it be? :)
11:11 cait           drojf: don't confuse me :)
11:11 drojf          cait: you are utc+2 now
11:11 sarkhanvol     22 UTC is fine. or 21 UTC
11:11 cait           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_April_2015
11:11 cait           it was 19 last time - not sure about daylight savings etc.
11:10 thd            was it not 22 UTC previously?
11:10 drojf          i'd prefer 19 but both works for me
11:10 eythian_       7am, ick:-)
11:09 cait           or 19UTC?
11:09 drojf          thanks :)
11:09 cait           i can make 10th work then
11:09 drojf          3rd won't work for me
11:09 cait           20 utc?
11:09 cait           which time is next?
11:09 cait           but depends on the time
11:08 cait           3rd would work a bit better for me
11:08 thd            10th
11:08 davidnind      3rd or 10th June?
11:08 wahanui        suggestions are still there
11:08 cait           suggestions?
11:08 cait           #topic Set Time and Date for Next Meeting
11:07 cait           setting time for the next meeting :)
11:07 cait           thd to put a call for bids on the mailing list at the beginning of next week - DONE
11:07 cait           hm might have missed the meeting on april 29?
11:06 sarkhanvol     cait: your welcome! :)
11:06 cait           thx sarkhanvol :)
11:06 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_15_April_2015
11:06 cait           Minutes are here
11:05 cait           I think this happened as well - we shoudl probably schedule another soon
11:05 sarkhanvol     regarding kohacon 2016 proposal, we'll sort it out once the group meet again :)
11:05 cait           tcohen will update the wiki about the dev meeting
11:05 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-04-17_QA_sprint
11:05 Brooke         volunteers++
11:05 cait           it went quite well, some numbers can be found on the wiki
11:04 cait           cait to send an email to the mailing list about the QA event - DONE
11:04 cait           #Topic Actions from Last Meeting
11:04 davidnind      agree
11:03 cait           i thin it doesn't make much sense to discuss when we don't have someone who knows what#s been planned and going on
11:03 cait           #info postponed to the next meeting
11:03 drojf          apparently not
11:03 davidnind      Don't think any of the signatories or committee are here
11:02 cait           is someone here to talk about the fundraising?
11:02 cait           otherwise - we won't have a vote :)
11:01 cait           thd: I agree - detailed and another would be good
11:01 thd            Linking to a detailed proposal is important and we may need to remind people that we would not have much to vote upon in the absence of more detailed proposals.
11:01 cait           #topic Next steps in Fundraising
11:00 cait           ok, changign topics?
11:00 eythian_       Ohh, Philippines is close.
11:00 Brooke         hooray it's from someone different :)
11:00 thd            The candidate has not yet linked to a more detailed proposal but there is time.
11:00 cait           and thd++
10:59 cait           ok?
10:59 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon16_Proposals
10:59 cait           #info one application so far - more are welcome
10:59 thd            We have attracted one candidate when I looked earlier this morning.
10:59 cait           ah thx
10:59 davidnind      Current proposals are here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon16_Proposals
10:58 thd            I created a blank page and posted a notice on the mailing list.
10:58 cait           #link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-April/042540.html
10:58 davidnind      Message went out asking for interest in hosting KohaCon 16 - https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-April/042540.html
10:58 drojf          i think we agreed on voting for a location in september, there is only one application so far
10:58 cait           #info bids can be added to the wiki page now
10:58 drojf          what's the question? :)
10:57 wahanui        rumour has it thd is concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option.  We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server. or concerned that indentation styles which do not collapse in vim lead to overly long lines which cannot always be broken across multiple lines
10:57 cait           thd?
10:57 cait           drojf maybe?
10:57 cait           #topic KohaCon16
10:57 cait           :)
10:57 cait           moving on
10:57 cait           #link http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/
10:56 Teejay         Thank you
10:55 davidnind      Nice job on the website http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/
10:55 cait           #info Call for papers is still open - more submissions welcome!
10:55 Teejay         Nigerian Librarians are showing interest and a User from Ethopia too
10:54 Teejay         Not  for now. But Call for Papers - we still want more  Contributors from the Experts
10:53 cait           is there anything else you want to add?
10:52 Teejay         Ok
10:52 cait           Teejay: it will show in the logs now :)
10:52 Teejay         The link works well here
10:52 davidnind      :)
10:51 eythian_       But no promises :-/
10:51 Brooke         Next time cowboy, next time. ;)
10:51 * Brooke       blows the smoke from her 6 shooter.
10:51 davidnind      too slow...
10:51 davidnind      http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/registration/
10:51 Brooke         #link http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/registration/
10:51 * eythian_     hopes to go :-)
10:50 cait           yes, can someone look up the link please?
10:50 Teejay         We still expect participants from USA, NZ, Europe etc to make the Conference more interesting and rewarding
10:50 Brooke         can we link that?
10:49 cait           #info registrations are open and going on
10:49 Teejay         We have registration going on
10:49 thd            It should be pointed out that there had been some consensus but never a formal vote on the more the merrier for wiki maintainers in a manner similar to bug wranglers if that matters.
10:48 Brooke         almost changed the wiki page title to KohaCon15; we aren't consistent in capitalisation on the website or wiki which dings findability
10:48 Teejay         Yes
10:48 cait           Teejay: are you still around?
10:48 cait           #topic KohaCon15
10:47 cait           ok? :)
10:47 cait           let's move on to another nice topic...
10:47 indradg        cait:++
10:47 sarkhanvol     Cheers for 3.22! :)
10:47 cait           and as always... the next release will rock :)
10:47 drojf          cait++
10:47 thd            I have been updating my plan, in the proposal as I fix bugs etc.
10:47 drojf          woohoo
10:47 cait           and thx everyone for attending and voting!
10:46 cait           congratulations to all elected volunteers!
10:46 cait           we are done!
10:46 cait           #agreed Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke (10 yes)
10:46 huginn`        Yes (10): Joubu, davidnind, cait, sarkhanvol, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:46 huginn`        Voted on "Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke?" Results are
10:46 cait           #endvote
10:46 cait           closing vote soonish
10:46 huginn`        Yes (10): Joubu, davidnind, cait, sarkhanvol, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:46 cait           #showvote
10:46 AndroUser2     #info Ram Migrino from OS Library Solutions Philippines
10:46 cait           ... ignore my mistakes please
10:46 wahanui        well, the migration is hard or <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with...
10:46 indradg        the migration
10:46 cait           #agreed Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9+1 yes)
10:45 indradg        yes
10:45 cait           arg
10:45 eythian_       It's also nice that Thomas has a Plan.
10:45 cait           #agreed Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9 yes)
10:45 indradg        #vote yes
10:45 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:45 cait           Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9+1 yes)
10:45 Joubu          #vote yes
10:45 sarkhanvol     #vote yes
10:45 thd            #vote Yes
10:45 fridolin       #vote yes
10:45 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:45 cait           #vote yes
10:45 drojf          #vote yes
10:45 eythian_       #vote yes
10:45 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:45 huginn`        Begin voting on: Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:45 cait           #startvote Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke? Yes, No
10:45 indradg        thd: thanks for the cluestick
10:44 thd            indradg: Only chairing the vote would be a conflict of interest.
10:44 sarkhanvol     #vote yes
10:44 cait           one more role :)
10:44 sarkhanvol     #info Eugene Espinoza from Rome
10:44 cait           Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9 yes)
10:44 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:44 huginn`        Voted on "Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren?" Results are
10:44 cait           #endvote
10:44 cait           closing...
10:43 indradg        thd: I didn't know that :P
10:43 indradg        #vote yes
10:43 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:43 cait           #showvote
10:43 cait           closing vote soonish
10:43 thd            indrdg: candidates should vote for themselves :)
10:43 eythian_       #vote yes
10:43 fridolin       #vote yes
10:43 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:43 Joubu          #vote yes
10:43 * indradg      from voting myself
10:42 thd            #vote Yes
10:42 drojf          (for the others ^^)
10:42 * indradg      standing down being a candidate
10:42 drojf          #vote yes
10:42 cait           #vote yes
10:42 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:42 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:42 huginn`        Begin voting on: Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:42 Teejay         Got disconnected. Had to join again
10:42 cait           #startvote Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren? Yes, No
10:41 Teejay         #info Tunji Adepeju Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria
10:41 cait           2 more people, we can do this :)
10:41 cait           #agreed  Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat (8 yes)
10:41 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:41 huginn`        Voted on "Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat?" Results are
10:41 cait           #endvote
10:41 cait           ending vote....
10:41 indradg        #vote yes
10:40 cait           ending vote soon
10:40 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:40 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:40 Joubu          #vote yes
10:40 cait           #vote yes
10:40 thd            #vote Yes
10:40 Brooke         lol frid
10:40 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:39 * fridolin     myyyyy preciouuuuus
10:39 cait           drojf++
10:39 drojf          #vote yes
10:39 wahanui        i heard that was th ereason
10:39 eythian_       Who is that?
10:39 drojf          that was enough power for today ;)
10:39 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:39 huginn`        Begin voting on: Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:39 cait           #startvote Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat? Yes, No
10:39 cait           .. and i was hoping he'd just continue :)
10:38 drojf          handing back to cait :)
10:38 drojf          #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? (9 yes)
10:38 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:38 huginn`        Voted on "Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize?" Results are
10:38 drojf          #endvote
10:38 AndroUser2     huginn: thanks!
10:38 drojf          closing soon
10:38 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:38 drojf          #showvote
10:37 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:37 drojf          AndroUser2: just "#vote yes" is enough
10:37 huginn`        AndroUser2: yes katrin fischer QA manager is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No.
10:37 AndroUser2     #vote yes katrin fischer QA manager
10:36 Joubu          #vote yes
10:36 huginn`        Yes (7): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:36 drojf          #showvote
10:36 indradg        #vote yes
10:36 cait           qa-team++ :)
10:36 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:36 fridolin       #vote yes
10:36 thd            #vote Yes
10:36 fridolin       cait: your the best ;)
10:36 drojf          #vote yes
10:36 cait           #vote YES
10:36 eythian_       #vote yes
10:35 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:35 huginn`        Begin voting on: Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:35 drojf          #startvote Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? Yes, No
10:35 drojf          and caits team…
10:35 drojf          #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? (7 yes)
10:35 huginn`        Yes (7): Joubu, davidnind, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:35 huginn`        Voted on "Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer?" Results are
10:35 drojf          #endvote
10:34 drojf          closing soon
10:34 huginn`        Yes (7): Joubu, davidnind, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:34 drojf          #showvote
10:34 indradg        #vote yes
10:34 cait           #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard (9+1 yes)
10:34 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:34 Joubu          #vote yes
10:34 huginn`        Yes (4): eythian_, davidnind, thd, drojf
10:34 drojf          #showvote
10:33 AndroUser2     #info Ram Migrino
10:33 thd            #vote Yes
10:33 eythian_       #vote yes
10:33 Joubu          AndroUser2: please introduce yourself
10:33 drojf          #vote yes
10:33 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:33 AndroUser2     (AndroUser2) #vote yes nicole engard for documentation mngr
10:33 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:33 huginn`        Begin voting on: Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:33 drojf          #startvote Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? Yes, No
10:33 drojf          ok next we have quality assurance, manager and team. starting with manager
10:32 AndroUser2     # ote yes nicole engard for documentation mngr
10:32 huginn`        Current chairs: cait drojf
10:32 cait           #chair drojf
10:32 cait           handing the chari now over to drojf
10:32 cait           #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard (9 yes)
10:32 thd            s/inseperable/inseparable/
10:32 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:32 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, Teejay, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:32 huginn`        Voted on "(Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard?" Results are
10:32 cait           #endvote
10:32 cait           heh
10:31 Joubu          say "#vote yes" for @questions;
10:31 indradg        :)
10:31 cait           warning, ending in a bit
10:31 cait           :)
10:31 Teejay         #vote yes
10:31 thd            #vote Yes
10:31 fridolin       #vote yes
10:31 eythian_       #vote yes
10:31 Joubu          #vote yes
10:31 drojf          #vote yes
10:31 thd            They have been inseperable.
10:31 cait           #vote yes
10:31 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:31 indradg        #vote yes
10:31 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:31 huginn`        Begin voting on: (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:31 cait           #startvote (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard? Yes, No
10:31 drojf          +1
10:30 indradg        +1
10:30 eythian_       Seems reasonable
10:30 davidnind      yep
10:30 fridolin       yes, logic
10:30 cait           (database) documentation manager?
10:30 cait           is it ok when we combine the next 2?
10:30 cait           i am sorry :)
10:30 cait           #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (6+1 yes)
10:30 drojf          you are too fast :)
10:29 cait           ah
10:29 indradg        #vote yes
10:29 cait           #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (6 yes)
10:29 huginn`        Yes (6): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, thd, drojf
10:29 huginn`        Voted on "Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel?" Results are
10:29 cait           #endvote
10:29 huginn`        Yes (6): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, thd, drojf
10:29 cait           #showvote
10:28 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:28 thd            #vote Yes
10:28 eythian_       #vote yes
10:28 drojf          #vote yes
10:28 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:28 cait           #vote yes
10:27 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:27 huginn`        Begin voting on: Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:27 cait           #startvote Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Yes, No
10:27 cait           #agreed Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall (8 yes)
10:27 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:27 huginn`        Voted on "Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall?" Results are
10:27 cait           #endvote
10:27 cait           agreed, maybe some others will step up and we can have another vote next meeting
10:26 Joubu          too bad not to see all entries filled
10:26 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:26 cait           #showvote
10:26 thd            #vote Yes
10:26 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:26 Joubu          #vote yes
10:26 eythian_       #vote yes
10:26 cait           #vote yes
10:26 drojf          #vote yes
10:26 indradg        #vote Yes
10:26 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:26 cait           please keep an eye out os i don't miss someone :)
10:26 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:26 huginn`        Begin voting on: Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:26 cait           #startvote Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall? Yes, No
10:25 eythian_       AndroUser2: you should introduce yourself with #info :-)
10:25 * fridolin     fully agree
10:25 cait           next up are the module maintainers
10:25 cait           #agreed Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers (8 yes)
10:24 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, Teejay, eythian_, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:24 huginn`        Voted on "Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers?" Results are
10:24 cait           #endvote
10:24 cait           ending the vote
10:24 thd            #vote Yes
10:24 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:24 Teejay         #vote yes
10:24 Joubu          #vote yes
10:24 cait           please add the #vote in front - then the bot can count them :)
10:24 AndroUser2     Yes
10:23 Teejay         Yes
10:23 eythian_       #vote yes
10:23 Brooke         #info Bueno. Tomas es gracioso
10:23 drojf          #vote yes
10:23 cait           #vote yes
10:23 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:23 cait           Teejay: not a problem, jump right in :)
10:23 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:23 huginn`        Begin voting on: Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:23 cait           #startvote Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers? Yes, No
10:23 Teejay         Seems I came in late. Apologies, please
10:23 Teejay         See
10:22 cait           #agreed Release Manager for 3.22 is Tomas Cohen Arazi (6+1 yes)
10:22 cait           ah
10:21 Teejay         Yes please . That will be splendid
10:21 huginn`        Yes (6): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, thd, drojf
10:21 huginn`        Voted on "Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?" Results are
10:21 cait           #endvote
10:21 Joubu          :)
10:21 huginn`        Yes (6): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, thd, drojf
10:21 cait           #showvote
10:21 cait           hi Joubu :)
10:21 Joubu          #info Jonathan Druart
10:21 Joubu          #vote yes
10:21 cait           it's #vote Yes/No
10:21 cait           we are voting for Tomas Cohen Arazi as release manager for 3.22 right now, do you want to add your vote?
10:20 cait           hi Teejay
10:20 cait           no more?
10:20 Teejay         #info Tunji Adepeju Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria
10:20 huginn`        Yes (5): eythian_, davidnind, cait, drojf, thd
10:20 cait           #showvote
10:20 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:19 thd            #vote Yes
10:19 huginn`        davidnind: Ye is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, .
10:19 davidnind      #vote Ye
10:19 drojf          #vote yes
10:19 eythian_       #vote yes
10:19 cait           #vote Yes
10:19 cait           i looked it up
10:19 cait           needs a question mark and options
10:19 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:19 huginn`        Begin voting on: Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi? Valid vote options are Yes, No, .
10:19 cait           #startvote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?  Yes, No,
10:19 drojf          nope
10:19 drojf          #help vote
10:19 cait           #vote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?  Yes, No,
10:18 eythian_       Do you finish it with "yes, no"?
10:18 huginn`        Unable to parse vote topic and options.
10:18 cait           #startvote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi - please indicate your vote with yes or no
10:18 cait           one sec
10:18 cait           hm that didn't work
10:17 * eythian_     orders a nerf gun
10:17 cait           #vote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi - please indicate your vote with yes or no
10:17 eythian_       Only soft things then ;-)
10:17 cait           ... well... don't throw too hard things
10:17 cait           don't kill them before 3.22 is out
10:17 drojf          lol
10:16 eythian_       Especially as I'm within throwing things distance of the next maintainers :-)
10:16 cait           does somene know how to see the help for the vote command?
10:16 fridolin       ok
10:16 magnuse        sorry, i gotta run, but all the volunteers have my vote :-)
10:15 eythian_       Sure
10:15 drojf          +1
10:15 cait           is that procedure ok?
10:15 cait           I suggest we start at the top and work our way through to the bottom, voting by heading - so release maintainers as a group, module maintainers, qa team etc.
10:15 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.22
10:15 cait           the list of voluteers and roles is at
10:14 cait           ok
10:13 cait           #topic Voting for 3.22 Release Team
10:13 cait           no vetos, one sec
10:13 eythian_       Yeah that's a good solution too
10:12 cait           ok, moving on?
10:12 cait           there is also a patch to test there - making sure the page doesn't explode if the dependency is missing and the feature is unused (afaik) - so signing that off would help too i think
10:11 cait           #info Bug 14103 - missing dependency - please help there if you can!
10:10 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
10:10 eythian_       Bug 14103
10:10 cait           so it#s not the final strings yet, but people can already start
10:10 cait           I think there has been an email from bernardo - but the po files will have another update
10:10 cait           #info Release of 3.20 getting close - please keep testing and help resolve release critical issues!
10:10 eythian_       One mo
10:10 magnuse        maybe also a reminder to start translating?
10:10 cait           eythian: do you have the bug number at hand?
10:09 eythian_       There's a package missing for 3.20 too, I might have time to get it done, but I also gave instructions for people to help me with it in case I can't.
10:09 cait           Brooke: the imporant bit is that it's a blocker
10:09 cait           Brooke: we don't really use prio
10:08 Brooke         argh how is that low priority :/
10:08 cait           but anyway, please keep testing and keep an eye out for new things that might pop up
10:08 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14148 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Bug 12412 breaks import if plugins are not enabled
10:08 cait           ah my bad, it needs QA - bug 14148
10:07 cait           i think we have one blocker that needs testing currently
10:07 cait           I'd like to remind everyone to help out fixing outstanding problems as logged on bugzilla
10:07 cait           I think even without tcohen being here it's save to say: the 3.20 release is close!
10:07 cait           eythian: already got soaked on the way to work this morning - you can keep ti :)
10:07 cait           #topic Updates on Releases
10:07 eythian_       Do you want our storm?
10:06 cait           quite sunny here today... but not sure if htat counts :) I am moving on then
10:06 cait           quiet
10:05 cait           anyone any announcements? :)
10:05 cait           #topic Announcements
10:05 cait           ok, moving on then
10:04 cait           in that case please introduce yourself with #info name institution coutry or similar :)
10:04 cait           jacetms: are you here for the meeting too?
10:04 jacetms        Test
10:04 thd            #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [most wasteful megacity on the planet]
10:03 indradg        #info Indranil Das Gupta, Kolkata, India
10:03 cait           thd? :)
10:02 * magnuse      might have to run out with the dog soon
10:02 davidnind      #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
10:02 fridolin       #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
10:02 thd            Brooke: It may be patched but we need to migrate databases to MySQL before upgrading.
10:02 magnuse        #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
10:02 drojf          #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
10:01 eythian_       #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT
10:01 cait           #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
10:01 cait           please introduce yourself with #info, following wahanui's example
10:01 wahanui        #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
10:01 cait           #Topic Introductions
10:01 Brooke         thd are you sure that isn't patched or ameliorated by a missing extension?
10:01 huginn`        The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015'
10:01 huginn`        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
10:01 huginn`        Meeting started Wed May  6 10:01:20 2015 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:01 cait           #startmeeting General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015
10:01 cait           ok, starting now
10:01 cait           :)
10:00 thd            cait: The bug which you identified for links to wiki pages with the same name as a category may be a MediaWiki bug in some respect.
10:00 eythian_       It was only one :-)
10:00 cait           eythian: as long as you are coherent and awake the beverage is ok
10:00 Brooke         beer > coffee
10:00 eythian_       I had a nice Belgian beer, does that count?
09:59 cait           i can
09:59 magnuse        who will chair?
09:59 cait           everyone grab some coffee/tea
09:59 cait           one more minute
09:59 wahanui        hi, eythian_
09:59 eythian_       Hi
09:59 cait           hey eythian :)
09:58 thd            6 am but I had worked into the morning relieving someone at a local bookshop.
09:58 drojf          yay! successful reminding :)
09:57 Brooke         drofj++ that's why I'm here
09:57 cait           btw drojf++ for sending the reminder
09:57 Brooke         it's not that bad
09:57 Brooke         6
09:57 cait           what time is it for you thd?
09:56 thd            Perhaps filling with more zombies like me.
09:55 cait           seems the channel is filling up a bit
09:52 thd            I have preferred the two meetings arrangement but I recognise the problems of lack of continuity and cohesiveness.
09:50 Brooke         mebbe :)
09:50 cait           do we only have 1 meeting today?
09:47 drojf          unless a lot of people rush in soon ;)
09:47 drojf          might be a short one
09:47 drojf          i think so
09:47 magnuse        gah, so it is i believe
09:44 cait           meeting in 16?
09:36 drojf          hi cait :)
09:34 cait           was in a meeting :)
09:34 * cait         waves
09:00 magnuse        tjänare Viktor
08:40 magnuse        yeah, a real productivity boost
08:39 drojf          that sounds lovely too :)
08:38 magnuse        the picture i got in my head was of coffee in everyone's keyboards...
08:38 magnuse        lulz
08:37 drojf          it's all about the hot sensation when it rains into the irc channel ;)
08:36 magnuse        especially since i don't drink coffee ;-)
08:36 magnuse        it sure did
08:35 drojf          but it woke you up :D
08:22 magnuse        that sounds messy ;-)
08:20 * drojf        pours coffee in #koha
08:20 drojf          quiet morning
07:30 gaetan_B       hello
07:29 drojf          did we hammer the website from that support provider request? it does not load for me
07:25 huginn`        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:25 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
07:24 drojf          morning #koha
07:04 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:04 magnuse        @wunder marseille
07:04 magnuse        woohoo, double digits!
07:04 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:04 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:04 magnuse        bonjour france
06:56 alex_a         bonjour
06:49 fridolin       hie
06:30 reiveune       hello
06:23 * magnuse      waves again
06:13 mtompset       Have a great day, #koha magnuse laurence cdickinson wizzyrea eythian
06:12 mtompset       Well, don't know if I'll be awake in <4 hours, but we'll see.
05:32 magnuse        bbiab, though
05:32 * magnuse      waves
05:32 mtompset       Greetings, magnuse.
05:25 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
05:25 mtompset       Anyone care to sign off my counter-patch on bug 14103?
05:25 mtompset       with all the headaches of PDF::FromHTML...
04:45 wizzyrea       no worries :)
04:18 mtompset       wizzyrea++ # thanks for the collaborating sign off. :)
04:17 wizzyrea       ^^ all of that.
04:17 eythian        yeah, that should really just be loading a different template/XSLT or something
04:17 wizzyrea       because right now they aren't consistent.
04:16 wizzyrea       maybe "show cataloguer-y things when searched from here" but with the same results.
04:16 eythian        then I can replace the bits I need to replace for ES
04:16 eythian        I might see if I can make it modular, to start with
04:16 eythian        yeah
04:16 wizzyrea       actually I'd love if they were consistent between them.
04:15 wizzyrea       that's the standard one :)
04:15 eythian        I forgot there were two.
04:15 eythian        I'm looking at catalogue/search.pl
04:15 eythian        oh
04:14 wizzyrea       because I'd be happy if you merged the two searches.
04:14 wizzyrea       hm, which one are you looking at, the cataloguing one or the standard one?
04:13 eythian        staff client search has far, far too much going on in the .pl file for it :/
03:57 wizzyrea       phew there it is
03:51 wizzyrea       annoying.
03:51 wizzyrea       sigh, 2 minutes to unlock.
03:47 huginn`        mtompset: I suck
03:47 mtompset       huginn`: I sucked, I forgot to tell you to tell. :)
03:47 huginn`        mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:47 mtompset       @later tell khall No, it doesn't even get listed or show up. :(
03:46 huginn`        mtompset: I suck
03:46 mtompset       @later khall No, it doesn't even get listed or show up. :(
03:46 huginn`        mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:46 mtompset       @later tell khall I just tried to get the http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ LastPatronActivity report plug in to work.
03:45 mtompset       DOH! :)
03:37 eythian        heh
03:36 wizzyrea       haha dumb, I'm locked out of my account.
03:34 wizzyrea       ..if I can get bz to work. heh.
03:34 wizzyrea       for funsies, I'll sign off on your patch, just so no one can get antsy about you signing off on something that isn't the original patch.
03:27 mtompset       Okay. :) The other reason is... counter patches tend to slow down the process of getting features and fixes into the system. I don't want to do that.
03:25 wizzyrea       fair enough, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.
03:25 mtompset       I really don't have an issue with him getting credit on it. :)
03:24 mtompset       Yes, but I wouldn't have made mine, if he didn't do his first.
03:24 wizzyrea       yours did
03:24 wizzyrea       yeah, but his fix didn't fix it
03:24 mtompset       wizzyrea: Fixing bugs isn't about credit.
03:22 wizzyrea       as that is like, the essence of the patch I really think you should get credit as the author.
03:20 wizzyrea       because it's just wrong.
03:20 wizzyrea       yeah, I think just a counter patch
03:07 mtompset       Nope... button to a it is.
03:04 mtompset       Perhaps I should try in Chrome.
03:04 mtompset       I was looking for javascript errors.
03:04 mtompset       No, because there is no onclick event.
03:02 wizzyrea       the button
03:02 wizzyrea       well that's a bootstrap thing - are there javascript errors on that one?
03:01 mtompset       it's a matter of does it click or not. If it doesn't click, it's kind of pointless.
03:00 eythian        either or
03:00 eythian        or make a followup
03:00 eythian        assuming it doesn't affect the accessibility (I can't see why it would)
03:00 eythian        yeah, I'd just fix it
03:00 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11941 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , "Patron lists" are not easily accessible
03:00 mtompset       bug 11941
02:59 mtompset       Literally, it is just that tag. One stinking tag... I hate leaving something in Failed QA, because of it.
02:59 eythian        changing a tag probably counts as small enough
02:59 eythian        If it's a really small change, probably. If it's not really small, I'd make a followup patch.
02:58 mtompset       If a patch doesn't work, but I fix it (tweak <button> tag to <a> tag), can I still sign it off?
02:54 wizzyrea       ah the building is swaying in the breeze
02:52 mtompset       eythian++ # great sounding board. :)
02:51 mtompset       Hmmm... I suppose its own table might be a better idea....
02:50 eythian        it seems to be calling out for a generalised solution, and shoehorning into an existing solution is almost never an answer to that.
02:50 wizzyrea       add something to the plugins table?
02:49 eythian        it's own table maybe
02:49 eythian        somewhere that's not system preferences.
02:49 mtompset       where would I put that list?
02:49 mtompset       I was pondering storing the list of files a plugin extracts somewhere to use to clean up the plugin after.
02:48 mtompset       but the delete process for plugins only deletes from the Koha directory.
02:48 mtompset       creates a JavaScript directory beside the Koha directory.
02:48 eythian        it just feels to me that system preferences should be for system ..well.. preferences.
02:48 mtompset       Bywater's CoverFlow plugin.
02:47 mtompset       Here's the problem being contemplated.
02:47 mtompset       Well, can't figure a better place to stick it?
02:47 eythian        why's it in system preferences then?
02:46 mtompset       Won't appear in any tab.
02:46 mtompset       No.
02:46 eythian        human editable?
02:44 mtompset       unrelated thought: JSON or YAML for serialization of data in a systempreference? Which is preferred?
02:43 wizzyrea       you really don't
02:42 mtompset       I'm not sure I want to go there.
02:42 wizzyrea       I had a terrible mental image just now.
02:42 eythian        only in the sense that a .deb comes out the other end.
02:41 mtompset       Yes, tangentially related though.
02:41 eythian        because they cover a totally different topic
02:41 mtompset       I was hoping for divine packaging instructional updates from above. :)
02:41 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Dependencies instead, I wrote this
02:40 eythian        I haven't touched them at all.
02:40 mtompset       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages nor http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way have been updated then?
02:39 eythian        I'm not sure what you're asking
02:39 mtompset       So, no packaging wiki documentation has been tweaked yet?
02:38 mtompset       Oh, the whole PDF::FromHTML pain.
02:37 mtompset       Okay... I'll pop up an IRC log window then. :P
02:36 eythian        scroll back 11 hours to tcohen's message to me
02:35 mtompset       I was trying to understand the context of "yes, totally. It probably just requires fixing up the documentation, I didn't see anything worse than that that would prevent it being packaged."
02:33 eythian        it still is, as I have no idea what you are asking, even with that in mind.
02:33 mtompset       It's not completely context free. :P
02:32 mtompset       Scroll back 2 hours to your chat with tcohen. :P
02:32 eythian        I'm sure there are other context-free words I can mention, too :)
02:32 eythian        feoffor!
02:31 eythian        mtompset: ambidextral!
02:31 mtompset       The wiki is tweaked?
02:31 mtompset       eythian: Packaging?
02:04 eythian        I don't actually know. I kinda just assumed so.
02:03 wizzyrea       the bug for remote searching of z39.50 targets - did that ever actually make it in?
02:02 eythian        I don't know how to set up the integrated searching of other catalogues, I've never had to do it.
02:02 eythian        Jaimeco: well, to share one catalogue is simple: they just share one catalogue.
02:01 Jaimeco        Ok ok, interesting. Could you so kind to bring me some link, In the website I don't locate information like that.
02:00 eythian        they can share one catalogue, or there are methods for telling Koha to search another catalogue too.
01:59 eythian        yes, though it depends on exactly how they want to do it really.
01:58 Jaimeco        *Libraries.
01:58 Jaimeco        If i have two Libreries in different universities How can share their catalogs. Koha support that model?
01:57 Jaimeco        ok, thank you.
01:56 eythian        no, it'll just be that you can't do the things while there is no connect, just like any other web page.
01:55 Jaimeco        Ok, but if the internet connection returns, the slave server or the island server syncs with the central?
01:54 eythian        you can't catalogue if there is no internet connection.
01:54 Jaimeco        Ok, thanks for the advice.
01:53 Jaimeco        If I understand, in the catalog level I cannot lost the internet connection?
01:53 eythian        I'm not really sure of the details of how it works, just that it exists.
01:52 Jaimeco        By example: Lib1 has 2000 book in catalog, lLib2 has 100. Lib2 has a poor internet connection to the central server Lib1. When the connection returns can continue with sync? Is the way of the offline works?
01:52 eythian        there is an offline circulation module
01:51 eythian        the only level you can do that with that's integrated into Koha is with circulation.
01:50 Jaimeco        Yes I know that. But, in my case I need to have several Libraries with a poor internet connection and if a lost connection all services lost too. Is there any way to sync different servers with different levels of acces and information ?
01:48 eythian        Jaimeco: it's web based, so you can have a central server that's accessed from anywhere you like.
01:47 Jaimeco        Anybody can tell me if KOHA is a distributed system. I mean, if I am interested in collect information in diferent islands and sync all of them in central server. Is any documentation about that?
01:46 Jaimeco        Hello everybody
00:09 eythian        I just now added to that wiki page: "...sometimes the module metadata doesn't contain everything."
00:09 eythian        I had the same thing
00:09 eythian        yep
00:08 tcohen         tidy
00:08 tcohen         but it would break in the absence of html::tify
00:08 tcohen         it would build, and install
00:08 tcohen         one thing that bothered me was that one of them wasn't pulling the right deps
00:07 eythian        yeah, I just learnt quilt recently. Turns out it's stupidly easy.
00:07 eythian        cool.
00:07 tcohen         my main problem was figuring how to patch the packages so they are suitable for Debian
00:07 tcohen         i successfuly built the dependencies on your jessie box and used them on all jenkins nodes before pushing the feature
00:06 eythian        yeah, it took me a while the first couple of times
00:06 tcohen         *took
00:06 tcohen         i really tried myself, but when it tool me more than 20 minutes to figure... and saw the amount of enhancements on my queue...
00:06 eythian        ta
00:05 tcohen         and great intro for people building debian packages
00:05 eythian        hi tcohen
00:05 tcohen         eythian: thanks for the fast reply
00:05 tcohen         morning/evening