Time  Nick           Message
00:05 tcohen         morning/evening
00:05 tcohen         eythian: thanks for the fast reply
00:05 eythian        hi tcohen
00:05 tcohen         and great intro for people building debian packages
00:06 eythian        ta
00:06 tcohen         i really tried myself, but when it tool me more than 20 minutes to figure... and saw the amount of enhancements on my queue...
00:06 tcohen         *took
00:06 eythian        yeah, it took me a while the first couple of times
00:07 tcohen         i successfuly built the dependencies on your jessie box and used them on all jenkins nodes before pushing the feature
00:07 tcohen         my main problem was figuring how to patch the packages so they are suitable for Debian
00:07 eythian        cool.
00:07 eythian        yeah, I just learnt quilt recently. Turns out it's stupidly easy.
00:08 tcohen         one thing that bothered me was that one of them wasn't pulling the right deps
00:08 tcohen         it would build, and install
00:08 tcohen         but it would break in the absence of html::tify
00:08 tcohen         tidy
00:09 eythian        yep
00:09 eythian        I had the same thing
00:09 eythian        I just now added to that wiki page: "...sometimes the module metadata doesn't contain everything."
01:46 Jaimeco        Hello everybody
01:47 Jaimeco        Anybody can tell me if KOHA is a distributed system. I mean, if I am interested in collect information in diferent islands and sync all of them in central server. Is any documentation about that?
01:48 eythian        Jaimeco: it's web based, so you can have a central server that's accessed from anywhere you like.
01:50 Jaimeco        Yes I know that. But, in my case I need to have several Libraries with a poor internet connection and if a lost connection all services lost too. Is there any way to sync different servers with different levels of acces and information ?
01:51 eythian        the only level you can do that with that's integrated into Koha is with circulation.
01:52 eythian        there is an offline circulation module
01:52 Jaimeco        By example: Lib1 has 2000 book in catalog, lLib2 has 100. Lib2 has a poor internet connection to the central server Lib1. When the connection returns can continue with sync? Is the way of the offline works?
01:53 eythian        I'm not really sure of the details of how it works, just that it exists.
01:53 Jaimeco        If I understand, in the catalog level I cannot lost the internet connection?
01:54 Jaimeco        Ok, thanks for the advice.
01:54 eythian        you can't catalogue if there is no internet connection.
01:55 Jaimeco        Ok, but if the internet connection returns, the slave server or the island server syncs with the central?
01:56 eythian        no, it'll just be that you can't do the things while there is no connect, just like any other web page.
01:57 Jaimeco        ok, thank you.
01:58 Jaimeco        If i have two Libreries in different universities How can share their catalogs. Koha support that model?
01:58 Jaimeco        *Libraries.
01:59 eythian        yes, though it depends on exactly how they want to do it really.
02:00 eythian        they can share one catalogue, or there are methods for telling Koha to search another catalogue too.
02:01 Jaimeco        Ok ok, interesting. Could you so kind to bring me some link, In the website I don't locate information like that.
02:02 eythian        Jaimeco: well, to share one catalogue is simple: they just share one catalogue.
02:02 eythian        I don't know how to set up the integrated searching of other catalogues, I've never had to do it.
02:03 wizzyrea       the bug for remote searching of z39.50 targets - did that ever actually make it in?
02:04 eythian        I don't actually know. I kinda just assumed so.
02:31 mtompset       eythian: Packaging?
02:31 mtompset       The wiki is tweaked?
02:31 eythian        mtompset: ambidextral!
02:32 eythian        feoffor!
02:32 eythian        I'm sure there are other context-free words I can mention, too :)
02:32 mtompset       Scroll back 2 hours to your chat with tcohen. :P
02:33 mtompset       It's not completely context free. :P
02:33 eythian        it still is, as I have no idea what you are asking, even with that in mind.
02:35 mtompset       I was trying to understand the context of "yes, totally. It probably just requires fixing up the documentation, I didn't see anything worse than that that would prevent it being packaged."
02:36 eythian        scroll back 11 hours to tcohen's message to me
02:37 mtompset       Okay... I'll pop up an IRC log window then. :P
02:38 mtompset       Oh, the whole PDF::FromHTML pain.
02:39 mtompset       So, no packaging wiki documentation has been tweaked yet?
02:39 eythian        I'm not sure what you're asking
02:40 mtompset       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages nor http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way have been updated then?
02:40 eythian        I haven't touched them at all.
02:41 eythian        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Dependencies instead, I wrote this
02:41 mtompset       I was hoping for divine packaging instructional updates from above. :)
02:41 eythian        because they cover a totally different topic
02:41 mtompset       Yes, tangentially related though.
02:42 eythian        only in the sense that a .deb comes out the other end.
02:42 wizzyrea       I had a terrible mental image just now.
02:42 mtompset       I'm not sure I want to go there.
02:43 wizzyrea       you really don't
02:44 mtompset       unrelated thought: JSON or YAML for serialization of data in a systempreference? Which is preferred?
02:46 eythian        human editable?
02:46 mtompset       No.
02:46 mtompset       Won't appear in any tab.
02:47 eythian        why's it in system preferences then?
02:47 mtompset       Well, can't figure a better place to stick it?
02:47 mtompset       Here's the problem being contemplated.
02:48 mtompset       Bywater's CoverFlow plugin.
02:48 eythian        it just feels to me that system preferences should be for system ..well.. preferences.
02:48 mtompset       creates a JavaScript directory beside the Koha directory.
02:48 mtompset       but the delete process for plugins only deletes from the Koha directory.
02:49 mtompset       I was pondering storing the list of files a plugin extracts somewhere to use to clean up the plugin after.
02:49 mtompset       where would I put that list?
02:49 eythian        somewhere that's not system preferences.
02:49 eythian        it's own table maybe
02:50 wizzyrea       add something to the plugins table?
02:50 eythian        it seems to be calling out for a generalised solution, and shoehorning into an existing solution is almost never an answer to that.
02:51 mtompset       Hmmm... I suppose its own table might be a better idea....
02:52 mtompset       eythian++ # great sounding board. :)
02:54 wizzyrea       ah the building is swaying in the breeze
02:58 mtompset       If a patch doesn't work, but I fix it (tweak <button> tag to <a> tag), can I still sign it off?
02:59 eythian        If it's a really small change, probably. If it's not really small, I'd make a followup patch.
02:59 eythian        changing a tag probably counts as small enough
02:59 mtompset       Literally, it is just that tag. One stinking tag... I hate leaving something in Failed QA, because of it.
03:00 mtompset       bug 11941
03:00 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11941 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , "Patron lists" are not easily accessible
03:00 eythian        yeah, I'd just fix it
03:00 eythian        assuming it doesn't affect the accessibility (I can't see why it would)
03:00 eythian        or make a followup
03:00 eythian        either or
03:01 mtompset       it's a matter of does it click or not. If it doesn't click, it's kind of pointless.
03:02 wizzyrea       well that's a bootstrap thing - are there javascript errors on that one?
03:02 wizzyrea       the button
03:04 mtompset       No, because there is no onclick event.
03:04 mtompset       I was looking for javascript errors.
03:04 mtompset       Perhaps I should try in Chrome.
03:07 mtompset       Nope... button to a it is.
03:20 wizzyrea       yeah, I think just a counter patch
03:20 wizzyrea       because it's just wrong.
03:22 wizzyrea       as that is like, the essence of the patch I really think you should get credit as the author.
03:24 mtompset       wizzyrea: Fixing bugs isn't about credit.
03:24 wizzyrea       yeah, but his fix didn't fix it
03:24 wizzyrea       yours did
03:24 mtompset       Yes, but I wouldn't have made mine, if he didn't do his first.
03:25 mtompset       I really don't have an issue with him getting credit on it. :)
03:25 wizzyrea       fair enough, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.
03:27 mtompset       Okay. :) The other reason is... counter patches tend to slow down the process of getting features and fixes into the system. I don't want to do that.
03:34 wizzyrea       for funsies, I'll sign off on your patch, just so no one can get antsy about you signing off on something that isn't the original patch.
03:34 wizzyrea       ..if I can get bz to work. heh.
03:36 wizzyrea       haha dumb, I'm locked out of my account.
03:37 eythian        heh
03:45 mtompset       DOH! :)
03:46 mtompset       @later tell khall I just tried to get the http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ LastPatronActivity report plug in to work.
03:46 huginn`        mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:46 mtompset       @later khall No, it doesn't even get listed or show up. :(
03:46 huginn`        mtompset: I suck
03:47 mtompset       @later tell khall No, it doesn't even get listed or show up. :(
03:47 huginn`        mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:47 mtompset       huginn`: I sucked, I forgot to tell you to tell. :)
03:47 huginn`        mtompset: I suck
03:51 wizzyrea       sigh, 2 minutes to unlock.
03:51 wizzyrea       annoying.
03:57 wizzyrea       phew there it is
04:13 eythian        staff client search has far, far too much going on in the .pl file for it :/
04:14 wizzyrea       hm, which one are you looking at, the cataloguing one or the standard one?
04:14 wizzyrea       because I'd be happy if you merged the two searches.
04:15 eythian        oh
04:15 eythian        I'm looking at catalogue/search.pl
04:15 eythian        I forgot there were two.
04:15 wizzyrea       that's the standard one :)
04:16 wizzyrea       actually I'd love if they were consistent between them.
04:16 eythian        yeah
04:16 eythian        I might see if I can make it modular, to start with
04:16 eythian        then I can replace the bits I need to replace for ES
04:16 wizzyrea       maybe "show cataloguer-y things when searched from here" but with the same results.
04:17 wizzyrea       because right now they aren't consistent.
04:17 eythian        yeah, that should really just be loading a different template/XSLT or something
04:17 wizzyrea       ^^ all of that.
04:18 mtompset       wizzyrea++ # thanks for the collaborating sign off. :)
04:45 wizzyrea       no worries :)
05:25 mtompset       with all the headaches of PDF::FromHTML...
05:25 mtompset       Anyone care to sign off my counter-patch on bug 14103?
05:25 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
05:32 mtompset       Greetings, magnuse.
05:32 * magnuse      waves
05:32 magnuse        bbiab, though
06:12 mtompset       Well, don't know if I'll be awake in <4 hours, but we'll see.
06:13 mtompset       Have a great day, #koha magnuse laurence cdickinson wizzyrea eythian
06:23 * magnuse      waves again
06:30 reiveune       hello
06:49 fridolin       hie
06:56 alex_a         bonjour
07:04 magnuse        bonjour france
07:04 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:04 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:04 magnuse        woohoo, double digits!
07:04 magnuse        @wunder marseille
07:04 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:24 drojf          morning #koha
07:25 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
07:25 huginn`        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:29 drojf          did we hammer the website from that support provider request? it does not load for me
07:30 gaetan_B       hello
08:20 drojf          quiet morning
08:20 * drojf        pours coffee in #koha
08:22 magnuse        that sounds messy ;-)
08:35 drojf          but it woke you up :D
08:36 magnuse        it sure did
08:36 magnuse        especially since i don't drink coffee ;-)
08:37 drojf          it's all about the hot sensation when it rains into the irc channel ;)
08:38 magnuse        lulz
08:38 magnuse        the picture i got in my head was of coffee in everyone's keyboards...
08:39 drojf          that sounds lovely too :)
08:40 magnuse        yeah, a real productivity boost
09:00 magnuse        tjänare Viktor
09:34 * cait         waves
09:34 cait           was in a meeting :)
09:36 drojf          hi cait :)
09:44 cait           meeting in 16?
09:47 magnuse        gah, so it is i believe
09:47 drojf          i think so
09:47 drojf          might be a short one
09:47 drojf          unless a lot of people rush in soon ;)
09:50 cait           do we only have 1 meeting today?
09:50 Brooke         mebbe :)
09:52 thd            I have preferred the two meetings arrangement but I recognise the problems of lack of continuity and cohesiveness.
09:55 cait           seems the channel is filling up a bit
09:56 thd            Perhaps filling with more zombies like me.
09:57 cait           what time is it for you thd?
09:57 Brooke         6
09:57 Brooke         it's not that bad
09:57 cait           btw drojf++ for sending the reminder
09:57 Brooke         drofj++ that's why I'm here
09:58 drojf          yay! successful reminding :)
09:58 thd            6 am but I had worked into the morning relieving someone at a local bookshop.
09:59 cait           hey eythian :)
09:59 eythian_       Hi
09:59 wahanui        hi, eythian_
09:59 cait           one more minute
09:59 cait           everyone grab some coffee/tea
09:59 magnuse        who will chair?
09:59 cait           i can
10:00 eythian_       I had a nice Belgian beer, does that count?
10:00 Brooke         beer > coffee
10:00 cait           eythian: as long as you are coherent and awake the beverage is ok
10:00 eythian_       It was only one :-)
10:00 thd            cait: The bug which you identified for links to wiki pages with the same name as a category may be a MediaWiki bug in some respect.
10:01 cait           :)
10:01 cait           ok, starting now
10:01 cait           #startmeeting General IRC Meeting, 6 May 2015
10:01 huginn`        Meeting started Wed May  6 10:01:20 2015 UTC.  The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:01 huginn`        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
10:01 huginn`        The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015'
10:01 Brooke         thd are you sure that isn't patched or ameliorated by a missing extension?
10:01 cait           #Topic Introductions
10:01 wahanui        #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
10:01 cait           please introduce yourself with #info, following wahanui's example
10:01 cait           #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
10:01 eythian_       #info Robin Sheat, Catalyst IT
10:02 drojf          #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
10:02 magnuse        #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway
10:02 thd            Brooke: It may be patched but we need to migrate databases to MySQL before upgrading.
10:02 fridolin       #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France
10:02 davidnind      #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
10:02 * magnuse      might have to run out with the dog soon
10:03 cait           thd? :)
10:03 indradg        #info Indranil Das Gupta, Kolkata, India
10:04 thd            #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [most wasteful megacity on the planet]
10:04 jacetms        Test
10:04 cait           jacetms: are you here for the meeting too?
10:04 cait           in that case please introduce yourself with #info name institution coutry or similar :)
10:05 cait           ok, moving on then
10:05 cait           #topic Announcements
10:05 cait           anyone any announcements? :)
10:06 cait           quiet
10:06 cait           quite sunny here today... but not sure if htat counts :) I am moving on then
10:07 eythian_       Do you want our storm?
10:07 cait           #topic Updates on Releases
10:07 cait           eythian: already got soaked on the way to work this morning - you can keep ti :)
10:07 cait           I think even without tcohen being here it's save to say: the 3.20 release is close!
10:07 cait           I'd like to remind everyone to help out fixing outstanding problems as logged on bugzilla
10:07 cait           i think we have one blocker that needs testing currently
10:08 cait           ah my bad, it needs QA - bug 14148
10:08 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14148 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Bug 12412 breaks import if plugins are not enabled
10:08 cait           but anyway, please keep testing and keep an eye out for new things that might pop up
10:08 Brooke         argh how is that low priority :/
10:09 cait           Brooke: we don't really use prio
10:09 cait           Brooke: the imporant bit is that it's a blocker
10:09 eythian_       There's a package missing for 3.20 too, I might have time to get it done, but I also gave instructions for people to help me with it in case I can't.
10:10 cait           eythian: do you have the bug number at hand?
10:10 magnuse        maybe also a reminder to start translating?
10:10 eythian_       One mo
10:10 cait           #info Release of 3.20 getting close - please keep testing and help resolve release critical issues!
10:10 cait           I think there has been an email from bernardo - but the po files will have another update
10:10 cait           so it#s not the final strings yet, but people can already start
10:10 eythian_       Bug 14103
10:10 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
10:11 cait           #info Bug 14103 - missing dependency - please help there if you can!
10:12 cait           there is also a patch to test there - making sure the page doesn't explode if the dependency is missing and the feature is unused (afaik) - so signing that off would help too i think
10:12 cait           ok, moving on?
10:13 eythian_       Yeah that's a good solution too
10:13 cait           no vetos, one sec
10:13 cait           #topic Voting for 3.22 Release Team
10:14 cait           ok
10:15 cait           the list of voluteers and roles is at
10:15 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.22
10:15 cait           I suggest we start at the top and work our way through to the bottom, voting by heading - so release maintainers as a group, module maintainers, qa team etc.
10:15 cait           is that procedure ok?
10:15 drojf          +1
10:15 eythian_       Sure
10:16 magnuse        sorry, i gotta run, but all the volunteers have my vote :-)
10:16 fridolin       ok
10:16 cait           does somene know how to see the help for the vote command?
10:16 eythian_       Especially as I'm within throwing things distance of the next maintainers :-)
10:17 drojf          lol
10:17 cait           don't kill them before 3.22 is out
10:17 cait           ... well... don't throw too hard things
10:17 eythian_       Only soft things then ;-)
10:17 cait           #vote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi - please indicate your vote with yes or no
10:17 * eythian_     orders a nerf gun
10:18 cait           hm that didn't work
10:18 cait           one sec
10:18 cait           #startvote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi - please indicate your vote with yes or no
10:18 huginn`        Unable to parse vote topic and options.
10:18 eythian_       Do you finish it with "yes, no"?
10:19 cait           #vote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?  Yes, No,
10:19 drojf          #help vote
10:19 drojf          nope
10:19 cait           #startvote Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?  Yes, No,
10:19 huginn`        Begin voting on: Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi? Valid vote options are Yes, No, .
10:19 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:19 cait           needs a question mark and options
10:19 cait           i looked it up
10:19 cait           #vote Yes
10:19 eythian_       #vote yes
10:19 drojf          #vote yes
10:19 davidnind      #vote Ye
10:19 huginn`        davidnind: Ye is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, .
10:19 thd            #vote Yes
10:20 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:20 cait           #showvote
10:20 huginn`        Yes (5): eythian_, davidnind, cait, drojf, thd
10:20 Teejay         #info Tunji Adepeju Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria
10:20 cait           no more?
10:20 cait           hi Teejay
10:21 cait           we are voting for Tomas Cohen Arazi as release manager for 3.22 right now, do you want to add your vote?
10:21 cait           it's #vote Yes/No
10:21 Joubu          #vote yes
10:21 Joubu          #info Jonathan Druart
10:21 cait           hi Joubu :)
10:21 cait           #showvote
10:21 huginn`        Yes (6): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, thd, drojf
10:21 Joubu          :)
10:21 cait           #endvote
10:21 huginn`        Voted on "Release Manager: Tomas Cohen Arazi?" Results are
10:21 huginn`        Yes (6): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, thd, drojf
10:21 Teejay         Yes please . That will be splendid
10:22 cait           ah
10:22 cait           #agreed Release Manager for 3.22 is Tomas Cohen Arazi (6+1 yes)
10:23 Teejay         See
10:23 Teejay         Seems I came in late. Apologies, please
10:23 cait           #startvote Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers? Yes, No
10:23 huginn`        Begin voting on: Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:23 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:23 cait           Teejay: not a problem, jump right in :)
10:23 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:23 cait           #vote yes
10:23 drojf          #vote yes
10:23 Brooke         #info Bueno. Tomas es gracioso
10:23 eythian_       #vote yes
10:23 Teejay         Yes
10:24 AndroUser2     Yes
10:24 cait           please add the #vote in front - then the bot can count them :)
10:24 Joubu          #vote yes
10:24 Teejay         #vote yes
10:24 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:24 thd            #vote Yes
10:24 cait           ending the vote
10:24 cait           #endvote
10:24 huginn`        Voted on "Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers?" Results are
10:24 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, Teejay, eythian_, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:25 cait           #agreed Release Maintainers: 3.20 - Chris Cormack, 3.18 - Liz Rea, 3.16 - Mason James, 3.14 - Fridolin Somers (8 yes)
10:25 cait           next up are the module maintainers
10:25 * fridolin     fully agree
10:25 eythian_       AndroUser2: you should introduce yourself with #info :-)
10:26 cait           #startvote Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall? Yes, No
10:26 huginn`        Begin voting on: Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:26 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:26 cait           please keep an eye out os i don't miss someone :)
10:26 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:26 indradg        #vote Yes
10:26 drojf          #vote yes
10:26 cait           #vote yes
10:26 eythian_       #vote yes
10:26 Joubu          #vote yes
10:26 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:26 thd            #vote Yes
10:26 cait           #showvote
10:26 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:26 Joubu          too bad not to see all entries filled
10:27 cait           agreed, maybe some others will step up and we can have another vote next meeting
10:27 cait           #endvote
10:27 huginn`        Voted on "Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall?" Results are
10:27 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:27 cait           #agreed Module Maintainers: Authentication - Martin Renvoize, Tools - Jonathan Druart, REST API - Kyle Hall (8 yes)
10:27 cait           #startvote Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Yes, No
10:27 huginn`        Begin voting on: Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:27 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:28 cait           #vote yes
10:28 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:28 drojf          #vote yes
10:28 eythian_       #vote yes
10:28 thd            #vote Yes
10:28 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:29 cait           #showvote
10:29 huginn`        Yes (6): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, thd, drojf
10:29 cait           #endvote
10:29 huginn`        Voted on "Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel?" Results are
10:29 huginn`        Yes (6): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, thd, drojf
10:29 cait           #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (6 yes)
10:29 indradg        #vote yes
10:29 cait           ah
10:30 drojf          you are too fast :)
10:30 cait           #agreed Translation manager: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel (6+1 yes)
10:30 cait           i am sorry :)
10:30 cait           is it ok when we combine the next 2?
10:30 cait           (database) documentation manager?
10:30 fridolin       yes, logic
10:30 davidnind      yep
10:30 eythian_       Seems reasonable
10:30 indradg        +1
10:31 drojf          +1
10:31 cait           #startvote (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard? Yes, No
10:31 huginn`        Begin voting on: (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:31 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:31 indradg        #vote yes
10:31 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:31 cait           #vote yes
10:31 thd            They have been inseperable.
10:31 drojf          #vote yes
10:31 Joubu          #vote yes
10:31 eythian_       #vote yes
10:31 fridolin       #vote yes
10:31 thd            #vote Yes
10:31 Teejay         #vote yes
10:31 cait           :)
10:31 cait           warning, ending in a bit
10:31 indradg        :)
10:31 Joubu          say "#vote yes" for @questions;
10:32 cait           heh
10:32 cait           #endvote
10:32 huginn`        Voted on "(Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard?" Results are
10:32 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, Teejay, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:32 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:32 thd            s/inseperable/inseparable/
10:32 cait           #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard (9 yes)
10:32 cait           handing the chari now over to drojf
10:32 cait           #chair drojf
10:32 huginn`        Current chairs: cait drojf
10:32 AndroUser2     # ote yes nicole engard for documentation mngr
10:33 drojf          ok next we have quality assurance, manager and team. starting with manager
10:33 drojf          #startvote Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? Yes, No
10:33 huginn`        Begin voting on: Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:33 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:33 AndroUser2     (AndroUser2) #vote yes nicole engard for documentation mngr
10:33 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:33 drojf          #vote yes
10:33 Joubu          AndroUser2: please introduce yourself
10:33 eythian_       #vote yes
10:33 thd            #vote Yes
10:33 AndroUser2     #info Ram Migrino
10:34 drojf          #showvote
10:34 huginn`        Yes (4): eythian_, davidnind, thd, drojf
10:34 Joubu          #vote yes
10:34 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:34 cait           #agreed (Database) Documentation Manager: Nicole Engard (9+1 yes)
10:34 indradg        #vote yes
10:34 drojf          #showvote
10:34 huginn`        Yes (7): Joubu, davidnind, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:34 drojf          closing soon
10:35 drojf          #endvote
10:35 huginn`        Voted on "Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer?" Results are
10:35 huginn`        Yes (7): Joubu, davidnind, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:35 drojf          #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Manager: Katrin Fischer? (7 yes)
10:35 drojf          and caits team…
10:35 drojf          #startvote Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? Yes, No
10:35 huginn`        Begin voting on: Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:35 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:36 eythian_       #vote yes
10:36 cait           #vote YES
10:36 drojf          #vote yes
10:36 fridolin       cait: your the best ;)
10:36 thd            #vote Yes
10:36 fridolin       #vote yes
10:36 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:36 cait           qa-team++ :)
10:36 indradg        #vote yes
10:36 drojf          #showvote
10:36 huginn`        Yes (7): davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, thd, drojf
10:36 Joubu          #vote yes
10:37 AndroUser2     #vote yes katrin fischer QA manager
10:37 huginn`        AndroUser2: yes katrin fischer QA manager is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No.
10:37 drojf          AndroUser2: just "#vote yes" is enough
10:37 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:38 drojf          #showvote
10:38 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:38 drojf          closing soon
10:38 AndroUser2     huginn: thanks!
10:38 drojf          #endvote
10:38 huginn`        Voted on "Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize?" Results are
10:38 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:38 drojf          #agreed Quality Assurance (QA) Team: Marcel de Rooy, Paul Poulain, Kyle Hall, Jonathan Druart, Brendan Gallagher, Martin Renvoize? (9 yes)
10:38 drojf          handing back to cait :)
10:39 cait           .. and i was hoping he'd just continue :)
10:39 cait           #startvote Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat? Yes, No
10:39 huginn`        Begin voting on: Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:39 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:39 drojf          that was enough power for today ;)
10:39 eythian_       Who is that?
10:39 wahanui        i heard that was th ereason
10:39 drojf          #vote yes
10:39 cait           drojf++
10:39 * fridolin     myyyyy preciouuuuus
10:40 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:40 Brooke         lol frid
10:40 thd            #vote Yes
10:40 cait           #vote yes
10:40 Joubu          #vote yes
10:40 fridolin       #vote Yes
10:40 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:40 cait           ending vote soon
10:41 indradg        #vote yes
10:41 cait           ending vote....
10:41 cait           #endvote
10:41 huginn`        Voted on "Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat?" Results are
10:41 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:41 cait           #agreed  Packaging Manager: Robin Sheat (8 yes)
10:41 cait           2 more people, we can do this :)
10:41 Teejay         #info Tunji Adepeju Projektlink Konsult, Nigeria
10:42 cait           #startvote Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren? Yes, No
10:42 Teejay         Got disconnected. Had to join again
10:42 huginn`        Begin voting on: Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:42 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:42 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:42 cait           #vote yes
10:42 drojf          #vote yes
10:42 * indradg      standing down being a candidate
10:42 drojf          (for the others ^^)
10:42 thd            #vote Yes
10:43 * indradg      from voting myself
10:43 Joubu          #vote yes
10:43 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:43 fridolin       #vote yes
10:43 eythian_       #vote yes
10:43 thd            indrdg: candidates should vote for themselves :)
10:43 cait           closing vote soonish
10:43 cait           #showvote
10:43 huginn`        Yes (8): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:43 indradg        #vote yes
10:43 indradg        thd: I didn't know that :P
10:44 cait           closing...
10:44 cait           #endvote
10:44 huginn`        Voted on "Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren?" Results are
10:44 huginn`        Yes (9): Joubu, davidnind, cait, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:44 cait           Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9 yes)
10:44 sarkhanvol     #info Eugene Espinoza from Rome
10:44 cait           one more role :)
10:44 sarkhanvol     #vote yes
10:44 thd            indradg: Only chairing the vote would be a conflict of interest.
10:45 indradg        thd: thanks for the cluestick
10:45 cait           #startvote Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke? Yes, No
10:45 huginn`        Begin voting on: Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke? Valid vote options are Yes, No.
10:45 huginn`        Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
10:45 eythian_       #vote yes
10:45 drojf          #vote yes
10:45 cait           #vote yes
10:45 davidnind      #vote Yes
10:45 fridolin       #vote yes
10:45 thd            #vote Yes
10:45 sarkhanvol     #vote yes
10:45 Joubu          #vote yes
10:45 cait           Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9+1 yes)
10:45 AndroUser2     #vote yes
10:45 indradg        #vote yes
10:45 cait           #agreed Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9 yes)
10:45 eythian_       It's also nice that Thomas has a Plan.
10:45 cait           arg
10:45 indradg        yes
10:46 cait           #agreed Bug Wranglers: Amit Gupta, Indranil Das Gupta, Zeno Tajoli, Mirko Tietgen, Eivin Giske Skaaren (9+1 yes)
10:46 indradg        the migration
10:46 wahanui        well, the migration is hard or <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with...
10:46 cait           ... ignore my mistakes please
10:46 AndroUser2     #info Ram Migrino from OS Library Solutions Philippines
10:46 cait           #showvote
10:46 huginn`        Yes (10): Joubu, davidnind, cait, sarkhanvol, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:46 cait           closing vote soonish
10:46 cait           #endvote
10:46 huginn`        Voted on "Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke?" Results are
10:46 huginn`        Yes (10): Joubu, davidnind, cait, sarkhanvol, eythian_, fridolin, indradg, AndroUser2, thd, drojf
10:46 cait           #agreed Wiki Curators: Indranil Das Gupta, Thomas Dukleth, Brooke (10 yes)
10:46 cait           we are done!
10:46 cait           congratulations to all elected volunteers!
10:47 cait           and thx everyone for attending and voting!
10:47 drojf          woohoo
10:47 thd            I have been updating my plan, in the proposal as I fix bugs etc.
10:47 drojf          cait++
10:47 cait           and as always... the next release will rock :)
10:47 sarkhanvol     Cheers for 3.22! :)
10:47 indradg        cait:++
10:47 cait           let's move on to another nice topic...
10:47 cait           ok? :)
10:48 cait           #topic KohaCon15
10:48 cait           Teejay: are you still around?
10:48 Teejay         Yes
10:48 Brooke         almost changed the wiki page title to KohaCon15; we aren't consistent in capitalisation on the website or wiki which dings findability
10:49 thd            It should be pointed out that there had been some consensus but never a formal vote on the more the merrier for wiki maintainers in a manner similar to bug wranglers if that matters.
10:49 Teejay         We have registration going on
10:49 cait           #info registrations are open and going on
10:50 Brooke         can we link that?
10:50 Teejay         We still expect participants from USA, NZ, Europe etc to make the Conference more interesting and rewarding
10:50 cait           yes, can someone look up the link please?
10:51 * eythian_     hopes to go :-)
10:51 Brooke         #link http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/registration/
10:51 davidnind      http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/registration/
10:51 davidnind      too slow...
10:51 * Brooke       blows the smoke from her 6 shooter.
10:51 Brooke         Next time cowboy, next time. ;)
10:51 eythian_       But no promises :-/
10:52 davidnind      :)
10:52 Teejay         The link works well here
10:52 cait           Teejay: it will show in the logs now :)
10:52 Teejay         Ok
10:53 cait           is there anything else you want to add?
10:54 Teejay         Not  for now. But Call for Papers - we still want more  Contributors from the Experts
10:55 Teejay         Nigerian Librarians are showing interest and a User from Ethopia too
10:55 cait           #info Call for papers is still open - more submissions welcome!
10:55 davidnind      Nice job on the website http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/
10:56 Teejay         Thank you
10:57 cait           #link http://kohacon15.projektlinkkonsult.com/
10:57 cait           moving on
10:57 cait           :)
10:57 cait           #topic KohaCon16
10:57 cait           drojf maybe?
10:57 cait           thd?
10:57 wahanui        rumour has it thd is concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option.  We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server. or concerned that indentation styles which do not collapse in vim lead to overly long lines which cannot always be broken across multiple lines
10:58 drojf          what's the question? :)
10:58 cait           #info bids can be added to the wiki page now
10:58 drojf          i think we agreed on voting for a location in september, there is only one application so far
10:58 davidnind      Message went out asking for interest in hosting KohaCon 16 - https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-April/042540.html
10:58 cait           #link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2015-April/042540.html
10:58 thd            I created a blank page and posted a notice on the mailing list.
10:59 davidnind      Current proposals are here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon16_Proposals
10:59 cait           ah thx
10:59 thd            We have attracted one candidate when I looked earlier this morning.
10:59 cait           #info one application so far - more are welcome
10:59 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon16_Proposals
10:59 cait           ok?
11:00 cait           and thd++
11:00 thd            The candidate has not yet linked to a more detailed proposal but there is time.
11:00 Brooke         hooray it's from someone different :)
11:00 eythian_       Ohh, Philippines is close.
11:00 cait           ok, changign topics?
11:01 cait           #topic Next steps in Fundraising
11:01 thd            Linking to a detailed proposal is important and we may need to remind people that we would not have much to vote upon in the absence of more detailed proposals.
11:01 cait           thd: I agree - detailed and another would be good
11:02 cait           otherwise - we won't have a vote :)
11:02 cait           is someone here to talk about the fundraising?
11:03 davidnind      Don't think any of the signatories or committee are here
11:03 drojf          apparently not
11:03 cait           #info postponed to the next meeting
11:03 cait           i thin it doesn't make much sense to discuss when we don't have someone who knows what#s been planned and going on
11:04 davidnind      agree
11:04 cait           #Topic Actions from Last Meeting
11:04 cait           cait to send an email to the mailing list about the QA event - DONE
11:05 cait           it went quite well, some numbers can be found on the wiki
11:05 Brooke         volunteers++
11:05 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-04-17_QA_sprint
11:05 cait           tcohen will update the wiki about the dev meeting
11:05 sarkhanvol     regarding kohacon 2016 proposal, we'll sort it out once the group meet again :)
11:05 cait           I think this happened as well - we shoudl probably schedule another soon
11:06 cait           Minutes are here
11:06 cait           #link http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_15_April_2015
11:06 cait           thx sarkhanvol :)
11:06 sarkhanvol     cait: your welcome! :)
11:07 cait           hm might have missed the meeting on april 29?
11:07 cait           thd to put a call for bids on the mailing list at the beginning of next week - DONE
11:07 cait           setting time for the next meeting :)
11:08 cait           #topic Set Time and Date for Next Meeting
11:08 cait           suggestions?
11:08 wahanui        suggestions are still there
11:08 davidnind      3rd or 10th June?
11:08 thd            10th
11:08 cait           3rd would work a bit better for me
11:09 cait           but depends on the time
11:09 cait           which time is next?
11:09 cait           20 utc?
11:09 drojf          3rd won't work for me
11:09 cait           i can make 10th work then
11:09 drojf          thanks :)
11:09 cait           or 19UTC?
11:10 eythian_       7am, ick:-)
11:10 drojf          i'd prefer 19 but both works for me
11:10 thd            was it not 22 UTC previously?
11:11 cait           it was 19 last time - not sure about daylight savings etc.
11:11 cait           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_April_2015
11:11 sarkhanvol     22 UTC is fine. or 21 UTC
11:11 drojf          cait: you are utc+2 now
11:11 cait           drojf: don't confuse me :)
11:11 cait           so what should it be? :)
11:11 drojf          sorry, tried to unconfuse :D
11:12 thd            We should probably keep 19 UTC for those not here now to suggest.
11:12 davidnind      http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+IRC+General+Meeting&iso=20150610T19
11:12 cait           davidnind: does that work for nz?
11:12 cait           or eythian?
11:12 wahanui        well, eythian is an expert bot trainer
11:12 davidnind      7 am in NZ
11:12 eythian_       20 is better for me, due to more likely being awake.
11:13 cait           any vetos on 20?
11:13 thd            The question about daylight savings in NZ and Australia was put at the last development meeting
11:13 eythian_       But that's just me, I'm sure I can irc from bed :-)
11:13 davidnind      okay with 20
11:13 eythian_       We're on ST now.
11:14 eythian_       So NZ is +12
11:14 eythian_       AU must be +10, so quite early
11:14 cait           #agreed Next Meeting will be held on 10 June 2015 - 20 UTC
11:14 cait           noone said veto ;)
11:15 cait           otherwise please send to the mailing list suggesting another time :)
11:15 cait           #endmeeting
11:15 huginn`        Meeting ended Wed May  6 11:15:14 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
11:15 huginn`        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015.2015-05-06-10.01.html
11:15 huginn`        Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015.2015-05-06-10.01.txt
11:15 huginn`        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2015/general_irc_meeting__6_may_2015.2015-05-06-10.01.log.html
11:15 cait           thx all for attending!
11:15 davidnind      cait++
11:15 drojf          cait++
11:15 eythian_       cait++
11:16 cait           time for lunch :) bbiab
11:17 fridolin       miammmm
11:17 fridolin       thanks again cait
11:18 cait           np.. next meeting at 2 for me, i better run :)
11:18 drojf          lunch sounds like a good idea
11:19 thd            Sleep at last will be even better than lunch ;)
11:19 drojf          i'll try that after lunch :D
11:19 * eythian_     returns to watching Tatau on BBC. I recommend it.
11:22 thd            eythian_: The Wikipedia article needs a link to any favourable or non-US review.
11:23 eythian_       Well I'm only on ep2, but I'm liking it so far :-)
11:24 eythian_       And Wikipedia is quite broken for me right now, oddly.
11:27 thd            eythian_: In what way is it broken for you?
11:29 davidnind      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4122348/
11:29 eythian_       thd: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/public.php?service=files&t=CBthPZUvgHljZNg
11:31 davidnind      Looks okay to me - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatau_%28TV_series%29
11:32 eythian_       I assume it's some broken mobile detection.
11:32 thd            eythian_: Perhaps your ISP is merely trying to protect you from wiki evils ;)
11:33 eythian_       Could be ;-)
11:34 * thd          sleeps
11:35 davidnind      Looks okay on my mobile phone - 5" Motorola Moto G2 (Firefox + Chrome)
11:38 eythian_       Curious
11:39 eythian_       Oh, working now
11:58 cait           davidnind++ #wiki
12:12 magnuse        ¡hola tcohen!
12:12 tcohen         hola magnuse!
12:12 magnuse        we just elected you for a third run as rm. tee hee.
12:13 magnuse        oh wait, we really did do that
12:13 tcohen         really?
12:13 tcohen         are you nuts?
12:14 magnuse        poco loco!
12:14 magnuse        (that was a very popular brand of clothes in norway in the 80's)
12:17 tcohen         heh
12:17 tcohen         i was reading the logs
12:17 tcohen         thanks guys
12:23 magnuse        nah, we should be thanking you, profusely
12:24 * tcohen       will resume pushing for the beta in a couple hours
12:24 tcohen         I hope people have the chance to test the blockers we have
13:05 cait           @later tell andreashm ping me if you are around sometime? :)
13:05 huginn`        cait: The operation succeeded.
13:05 tcohen         hi cait
13:09 cait           hi tcohen :)
13:45 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14057: Inventory is painfully slow <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e0468e8c2587fa4f51cb22b59ac5466383bbab1> / Bug 14056: Small punctuation error in description for deleting a holiday <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24e0c1b756945517e4ec02af81bc761128b1a907> / Bug 12192: Template toolkit code in HTML attributes is picked up into po-files <http://git.koha-
14:11 tcohen         is simith around?
14:12 tcohen         @seen simith
14:12 huginn`        tcohen: I have not seen simith.
14:15 cait           i think i haven't seen him here
14:15 cait           francharb and  blou are the same company - but probably a bad time for canada?
14:23 * Oak          waves
15:17 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13364: Use SQL placeholder <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaaf290073dc50d0427732dbc1dd98d330a4b1ce> / Bug 13364: Remove unused JS functions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d922f36ef5bb4c7f6cc853669232edbc65377a84> / Bug 13364: Fix table id + software error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8b1f7c4ca7937ac21d42c93df648ab77
15:22 Bovinity       Hellooooo
15:28 nengard        hellooooo
15:31 Bovinity       So is there any rhyme or reason to the fact that additems.pl seems to be the only page I can find that uses randomized html field IDs?
15:47 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14148: marc import broken if plugins are not enabled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=115c4f348eb89e6eb0f25a823265d11135d72788>
15:58 gaetan_B       bye
16:03 xarragon       When looking at bugs in the tracker, is there an easier way to tell if they have been pushed and merged than git log and seaching for the ID?
16:04 xarragon       I guess the bug state itself would be most telling.
16:25 nengard        anyone around who can answer a question about Coce - I'm writing the manual and I assume that if you have this on you want the other cover image options off
16:50 tcohen         nengard_afk: it is unimarc + french + sudoc specific
16:51 nengard        i'll need some more explanation for the manual then
16:57 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12253: Fix MARCUrls in basket <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a923f9cc666d3186d70299d0e18530c2bc26e97> / Bug 13982: Checkouts table not sorting on correct column <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35acace47f6f2e10451563d6a8cc1a70810f63dc>
17:00 tcohen         maybe ask paul_p, he can point you to the right people
17:00 tcohen         it is an authority database
17:00 tcohen         for french academic libraries usage me thinks
17:10 magnuse        nengard: see bug 9580
17:10 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9580 new feature, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Cover image from Coce, a remote image URL cache
17:10 magnuse        fredericdem would be the one to talk to, i think
17:11 magnuse        coce solves the problem of multiple cover sources, but outside koha, so yes, if you enable coce you probably want to disable all other cover sources
17:11 magnuse        or so i gather :-)
17:12 nengard        magnuse it seemed like the logical assumption but I did not put that in the manual just in case :)
17:14 nengard        trying to keep the manual up to date so when it's time for feature freeze ... oh wait did that happen? ... I can update help files
17:15 magnuse        well, it is too late to get new features qa'ed and into 3.20, but tcohen still has some features that were qa'ed before the deadline that he can push, i think
17:15 magnuse        nengard++ for keeping the manual up to date
17:15 nengard        well whenever tcohen is done then I need to get those help files up to date - so manual work continues :)
17:16 nengard        lots done today: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary
17:16 tcohen         nengard: not too many, don't worry
17:16 nengard        just wish jenkins would stop emailing me to say the manual is failing
17:16 nengard        which it isn't!!!
17:17 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
17:18 mtompset       I was looking into improving test coverage on a bug... and noticed this...
17:18 mtompset       # FIXME
17:18 mtompset       # At this point, there is a problem with the AutoCommit off
17:18 magnuse        hiya mtompset
17:18 mtompset       Greetings, magnuse.
17:23 barton         Does anyone know of any repositories of templates for notices and slips? I didn't see any on the wiki, but it would be nice to have something similar to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library, allowing libraries to share templates for notices. ... I saw this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:Report which made me a bit reluctant to create a new page from scratch.
17:24 misilot        Hi, I was wondering if with the MARC Modification templates if there is a way to a barcode similar to the __CURRENTDATE__ macro?
17:28 tcohen         nengard: wrong warnings about the docs?
17:28 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13364: (QA followup) missing id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4381be9a460e319a8136c450033906b8b173c312>
17:29 nengard        tcohen - i emailed the koha list about it
17:29 tcohen         great
17:29 nengard        jenkins keeps emailing me telling me that the manual is failing - but it's not
17:29 nengard        it was a over a week ago that i sent the email though
17:29 nengard        and still no resolution
17:36 tcohen         it's been over a week ago that Chris fixed jenkins so it starts sending emails, which wasn't doing correctly
17:39 nengard        tcohen - i don't want false emails
17:39 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12135: Fix suggestions table width <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=55a9ed6ac3e6a5236bd2dc7c6b32d35b9edb5ff8> / Bug 10976: Fix typo itemtype vs itemtypes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=856887abcf0468191ecd35b6d9b4e6a36e7a4407> / Bug 14129: templates.readme is outdated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2731ee8bfea2190dabe69c
17:40 nengard        I get 7 or 8 everytime I do the manual
17:40 nengard        and the thing is the manual shouldn't be failing - it's jenkins that's failing
17:40 nengard        per my email
17:41 Bovinity       Meh, can do nearly every operation via URL in Koha except add items. Bit of a bummer.
17:42 tcohen         nengard: :-P
17:42 tcohen         will try to take a look
17:43 nengard        hehe
17:55 tcohen         what was the tool for extracting data from xml on cli?
17:57 cait           tcohen: hm?
17:57 tcohen         ciat: xmlstarlet
17:57 tcohen         cait
18:01 magnuse        xmlstarlet sel -t -v "//_:datafield[@tag='099']/_:subfield[@code='h']" /path/to/file.marcxml | sort | uniq -c :-)
18:02 cait           tcohen
18:02 tcohen         i'm scripting my 3.12 > 3.18 migration
18:02 tcohen         we have that new handy --enable-sru option, and --sru-port of course
18:03 tcohen         so need to script the extraction
18:03 tcohen         of the value from 3.12
18:12 tcohen         magnuse: for instance in $(koha-list) ; do echo "$instance:"`xmlstarlet sel -t -v 'yazgfs/listen[@id="publicserver"]' /etc/koha/sites/$instance/koha-conf.xml | cut -d':' -f3` ; done
18:30 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14018: Ordering from suggestion shows 'copy. year:2014' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e7c6e0bcba7726e10d2d97ca7fb034547c7d306> / Bug 14075: Undefined value creates noisy warns in C4::AuthoritiesMarc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf6ded93e8035c446aecd29ce6f688d1c4fcd52b>
18:31 mtompset       There... improved test coverage. :) bug 14103. YAY! :)
18:31 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
18:33 mtompset       BTW, tcohen I think that might solve the jenkins issues.
18:34 mtompset       http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/39/console
18:40 tcohen         ah, I see
18:41 tcohen         once I finish polishing the beta i'll take on the remaining bugfixes
18:42 mtompset       BTW, failures over the plugin is pretty ugly. Bad khall. ;)
18:42 tcohen         the jenkins nodes already have a packaged version of the dependencies installed, because there's no point flooding people
18:42 khall          : )=
18:42 tcohen         i built them and reused across the servers
18:42 * mtompset     gasps, "Say it isn't so!"
18:42 tcohen         eythian made great progress conveniently packaging them
18:43 tcohen         bye #koha, have a nice evening/night/morning
18:43 khall          mtompset: if a plugin has errors, it just doesn't show up in Koha. I don't like that at all but I had to do it to get it passed qa. Blame jcamins ; )
18:45 * mtompset     chuckles, "Let's all play the blame game. Where everyone loses!"
19:34 mtompset       Greetings, indradg.
19:35 indradg        Greetings! mtompset
19:36 mtompset       What's new with you?
19:37 indradg        trying to coax people to sign off on a silly little patch bug 14135
19:37 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
19:37 mtompset       Can I get a tit-for-tat?
19:37 mtompset       bug 14103
19:37 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
19:38 indradg        aah... your workaround fix for the PDF::FromHTML?
19:39 mtompset       Yes. :)
19:42 mtompset       indradg|dinner: BTW, I don't think this is an enhancement. This is a fix.
19:42 mtompset       It should have been in the list in the first place.
19:47 indradg|dinner mtompset: i thought so, but it looked so trivial that i didn't set it as a 'fix'
19:47 mtompset       Oh my! There's no validation on the value entered as the type?!
19:48 indradg|dinner only came to my notice after I had a rough time supporting a client on phone who kept complaining that it was not working
19:48 mtompset       I just changed INTRAdidyoumean to a "DoesThisBreakThis" type.
19:48 cait           mtompset: it's an old part of Koha - local use are not much used these days
19:48 mtompset       Beyond the scope of this bug.
19:48 indradg|dinner cait: SMSSendUsername / SMSSendPassword... my own undoing
19:49 cait           not saying it's not valid to use them :)
19:49 cait           just that it's become a bit rare - and we should definitely fix the Free as a bug
19:50 indradg|dinner although tbh, I couldnt understand why SMSSendUsername / SMSSendPassword aren't already there as msging params
19:51 mtompset       cait: bug 14135 is signed off. ;)
19:51 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14135 minor, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Signed Off , Local Use syspref addition form missing variable type 'Free'
19:51 cait           if they are used for all th esms modules i think they should be here
19:51 cait           there
19:51 cait           sorry, I can't type tonight :)
19:58 mtompset       indradg: So, can I ask you to look at and sign off 14103? :)
19:58 indradg        mtompset: on it!
20:02 mtompset       Thanks.
20:04 mtompset       Sweet! The first of my many 'prove t' cleanups signed off (14113) :)
20:10 mtompset       bgkriegel++ # YAY! I love sign-offs on my bugs. :)
20:16 * andreashm    waves
20:16 mtompset       Greetings, andreashm.
20:16 cait           hi andreashm :)
20:17 andreashm      hey cait, mtompset
20:46 drojf          good night #koha
21:02 mtompset       indradg: Are you having problems with 14103?
21:33 tcohen         hi
21:33 wahanui        niihau, tcohen
21:33 tcohen         hi wahanui
21:33 rangi          hi tcohen
21:34 tcohen         hey
21:37 * cait         wave
21:37 cait           s
21:53 tcohen         hi cait
21:53 cait           hi tcohen
22:09 eythian        hi
22:14 eythian        http://mountainsofmouthness.com/
22:32 wizzyrea       that is...
22:34 wizzyrea       lol.
22:54 BobB           good morning
23:18 tcohen         night #koha
23:19 eythian        hi tcohen
23:19 eythian        bye tcohen
23:19 tcohen         hey
23:19 tcohen         heh