Time  Nick         Message
23:58 wizzyrea     it would make sense to have one though
23:58 eythian      OK
23:58 wizzyrea     there isn't one, it's done by the cart script (I thought)
23:58 wizzyrea     sorry I misread.
23:58 wizzyrea     ummm
23:58 wizzyrea     for the email though
23:58 wizzyrea     or sendcart
23:58 wizzyrea     or something like
23:57 wizzyrea     opac-downloadcart I think
23:57 eythian      wizzyrea: when you send a cart to someone, where does the template for that email live?
23:15 wizzyrea     see ya!
23:15 eythian      later
23:15 * Francesca  waves goodbye at eythian rangi and wizzyrea
23:15 Francesca    gotta go now
23:15 Francesca    I'll look in a sec
23:14 eythian      then click on the style editor part and it tells you which files are actually referenced.
23:14 Francesca    yeah I'm looking at the html through inspector at the moment
23:13 eythian      you can view the page's CSS files using the element inspector
23:11 Francesca    that might be the problem
23:11 Francesca    the webpage doesn't actually look like it's linked to the print.css
23:10 * Francesca  goes to look at a new method of killing unwanted menus in printed webpages
23:09 Francesca    the stuff will not vanish from the print out
23:08 * Francesca  is annoyed
23:07 wizzyrea     haha eythian
23:06 wahanui      okay, eythian.
23:06 eythian      wahanui: problem is also <reply>https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg
23:06 wahanui      ...but problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes....
23:06 eythian      wahanui: problem is <reply>https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg
23:05 Francesca    my kitties don't look that little anymore though
23:05 Francesca    lol thats cute
23:05 eythian      who says you can't put pictures here
23:05 eythian      U
23:05 eythian      =(___)=
23:05 eythian      \'o.0'
23:05 eythian      _ _/|
23:05 eythian
23:01 wizzyrea     aww
22:59 Francesca    I have some really cute pics of my kitties from last night
22:59 Francesca    you know its a shame you can't stick photos in here
22:58 wizzyrea     yep should do
22:58 Francesca    yup
22:58 wizzyrea     it being... your changes?
22:58 Francesca    If I save and refresh it'll show up on my browser webpage right?
22:57 Francesca    I will
22:57 wizzyrea     you should be fine - but do test it
22:56 wizzyrea     oh, that's not how that works :)
22:56 Francesca    I don't want to accidentally make the menu disappear on the web page just because I told it not to show in the print.css file
22:56 wizzyrea     ^
22:56 eythian      template toolkit != javascript though, don't get stuck on that idea
22:56 Francesca    I'm just double checking
22:55 wizzyrea     I believe in you :)
22:55 Francesca    I'll go looking
22:55 Francesca    looks a bit like javascript
22:55 * Francesca  wish she knew more about javascript
22:55 wizzyrea     it is html, it's just put together of many parts, with the templating system we use, template toolkit.
22:54 Francesca    css the html file doesn't even look like html
22:54 wizzyrea     it's probably in an include
22:54 Francesca    to be honest I can't actually find where it links to the style sheet in the html file
22:52 Francesca    just lots of css files for like everything
22:52 Francesca    I can't see anything labeled style.css
22:52 wizzyrea     trust, but verify :)
22:52 Francesca    ok good
22:52 wizzyrea     not as far as I recall, no
22:51 Francesca    thats not the main stylesheet is it?
22:51 Francesca    hey the print.css file I'm working on
22:49 Francesca    I'm working on the print styles at the moment
22:49 Francesca    one can get a bit bored with that
22:49 Francesca    I spend all day staring at music notation
22:49 wizzyrea     same here, sheesh.
22:48 wizzyrea     *nod*
22:48 Francesca    busy
22:48 Francesca    good
22:48 Francesca    no worries
22:48 wizzyrea     how's it goin :)
22:48 * Francesca  waves at wizzyrea
22:48 wizzyrea     yes, sorry I didn't notice my chat
22:48 wizzyrea     oh hi!
22:48 Francesca    wizzyrea you there?
22:34 Francesca    didn't mean to hit the tab key twice
22:34 Francesca    Whoops
22:33 * eythian    points at the Tab key :)
22:32 Francesca    is wizzeyrea around?
22:25 Francesca    how goes it
22:25 Francesca    lol
22:25 wahanui      niihau, eythian
22:25 eythian      hi
22:24 rangi        hi Francesca
22:24 * Francesca  waves
21:39 mveron       Good night / daytime everybody...
21:24 wizzyrea     also, no good asking for a tweak to styles unless you're also going to say what the tweak needs to be.
21:18 wizzyrea     but, fwiw, I have never looked at that.
21:18 wizzyrea     where most of the world is those places that it isn't morning :P
21:00 talljoy      will wait for jajm
20:48 * talljoy    realizes it is happy hour/end of day for most of the world.....:-)
20:48 talljoy      do they use different methods for exporting?  or the same basic underlying code?  anyone familiar with this?
20:47 talljoy      hi all!  i'm noticing some differences in how Koha exports item search data (advanced search->item search->export to csv) versus exporting report data into csv.
20:45 eskaaren_    perl -e '{print map {chr} @ARGV}' 66 101 101 114 33 10
20:45 eskaaren_    And here comes a lame goodbye for now :)
20:41 nengard      welcome
20:41 nengard      cool
20:41 nengard      you deserve it
20:41 eskaaren_    By the way, Im hired by Region Halland to help with the Koha project but will donate some private time as well
20:41 nengard      LOL
20:41 eskaaren_    Now back to the beers :)
20:40 nengard      eskaaren_++
20:40 eskaaren_    np
20:40 nengard      thank you so much
20:40 nengard      that did the trick
20:39 nengard      BINGO!
20:38 nengard_afk  back
20:37 eskaaren_    And then retry cpanm?
20:36 eskaaren_    Im not really a debian/ubuntu person but can you install apt-get install libhtml-tidy-perl?
20:33 nengard      brb - stepping away - but will be back - don't leave me :) hehe
20:31 nengard      can we fix?
20:31 nengard      hehe
20:31 nengard      i don't like 'fatal'
20:30 eskaaren_    And here we have the error i think: Tidy.xs:5:19: fatal error: tidyp.h: No such file or directory
20:29 eskaaren_    OK at least Alien::Tidyp is missing
20:28 nengard      this might have frozen ...
20:27 pastebot     "nengard" at pasted "I think this is it ... it might still be thinking ..." (62 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73
20:26 eskaaren_    sorry must have the file
20:26 eskaaren_    perl -pe 'while(<>){print;}' /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log
20:26 eskaaren_    perl -pe 'while(<>){print;}' /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817
20:24 pastebot     "nengard" at pasted "ls commands" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/72
20:22 eskaaren_    and ls -la /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817
20:21 eskaaren_    ls -la /root/.cpanm/work
20:20 nengard      so does root apparently
20:20 nengard      -su: /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log: Permission denied
20:20 nengard      root@koha-vm:~# /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log
20:20 nengard      15:19 ~/kohaclone (master % u=)$ sudo su -
20:20 eskaaren_    if you cant read that file then you have file system permission problems..
20:19 eskaaren_    sudo su -
20:18 nengard      -bash: /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log: Permission denied
20:18 nengard      15:17 ~/kohaclone (master % u=)$ /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log
20:18 eskaaren_    you cant cat it with sudo?
20:18 nengard      -bash: /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log: Permission denied
20:17 eskaaren_    post /root/.cpanm/work/1430424855.17817/build.log
20:17 eskaaren_    ah
20:17 nengard      can i do the --force thing?
20:17 pastebot     "nengard" at pasted "install errors with sudo" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71
20:17 nengard      but will try again with sudo
20:17 nengard      :) look down a bit
20:17 nengard      that was my first try
20:17 eskaaren_    not sudo?
20:16 eskaaren_    15:10 ~/kohaclone (master % u=)$ cpanm -f PDF::FromHTML.pm
20:16 mveron       I see no hints on the About page > Perl errors
20:16 nengard      I was using sudo
20:16 eskaaren_    OK you are using system perl? Then you must use sudo
20:15 mveron       However I can open e.g. cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation-home.pl
20:15 nengard      nope - that's in the errors i just pasted
20:14 pastebot     "nengard" at pasted "install errors" (56 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70
20:14 eskaaren_    can you do cpanm -f HTML::Tidy?
20:14 mveron       I have the same issue: cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl  has Software error after newest pull.
20:13 nengard      yes
20:13 nengard      ! Bailing out the installation for PDF-FromHTML-0.31.
20:13 eskaaren_    Was that with cpanm?
20:13 nengard      nope ...
20:13 eskaaren_    cpanm will resolve some dependencies and install
20:13 nengard      trying with sudo
20:13 nengard      ! Bailing out the installation for PDF-FromHTML-0.31.
20:13 nengard      ! Installing the dependencies failed: Module 'HTML::Tidy' is not installed
20:13 nengard      ! Installing HTML::Tidy failed. See /home/nengard/.cpanm/work/1430424789.17215/build.log for details. Retry with --force to force install it.
20:13 eskaaren_    then do cpanm -f PDF::FromHTML.pm
20:12 nengard      :(
20:12 nengard      k - then how do i get it to install with no errors?
20:12 eskaaren_    I recommend cpanm
20:11 nengard      is there a way to do this with apt-get ?
20:11 nengard      make test had returned bad status, won't install without force
20:11 nengard      found the error in cpan
20:11 nengard      15:10 ~/kohaclone (master % u=)$
20:11 nengard      15:00 ~/kohaclone (master % u=)$ locate FromHTML.pm
20:11 nengard      no ... strange
20:10 eskaaren_    perhaps run updatedb first
20:10 eskaaren_    can you locate FromHTML.pm using #locate FromHTML.pm
20:10 nengard      yes it installed  - or appeared to
20:10 eskaaren_    (If you are running system Perl)
20:09 eskaaren_    Did you do it as root?
20:09 eskaaren_    Did the cpan module install (seemingly)?
20:07 nengard      but that didn't solve it - how do i install this module?
20:07 nengard      I then did this:  cpan PDF::FromHTML
20:07 nengard      just did a git pull and get this: Can't locate PDF/FromHTML.pm in @INC
20:07 nengard      hey can anyone else me with this?
20:07 nengard      awesome
20:06 nengard      LOL
20:06 pianohacker  hrehrehrehre
20:06 pianohacker  hi nengard :)
20:05 nengard      can't type
20:05 nengard      hreher
20:05 wahanui      I HATE XML
20:05 nengard      pianohacker!!!!
20:04 pianohacker  yo
20:00 nengard      but that didn't solve it - how do i install this module?
20:00 nengard      I then did this:  cpan PDF::FromHTML
20:00 nengard      just did a git pull and get this: Can't locate PDF/FromHTML.pm in @INC
20:00 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14100 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Generic solution for language overlay
20:00 mveron       joubu++ for the proof of concept for language overlays - Bug 14100
19:52 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9528: Add delivery branch to the place hold display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93c875f603e60d17403673de3214decd73356823> / Bug 13442: Facet links broken when collection code limit is used <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0da0ab0e471f2e8211f2e91289c374dabe4d800d>
19:51 tcohen       bye #koha, happy labours' day to everyone
19:42 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6059: Don't permit to change the quantity when items are created on ordering <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbb374e76494ae2bad87fbc703e396cebcf8b9f5> / Bug 8007: (followup) double quotes... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e30a7fa7fc03c512124218139a0effd86de37dff> / Bug 7843: (QA followup) Make news selection persistant <http://git.koha-community.org/git
19:39 tcohen       eythian: around?
19:28 mtompset     OH MY! Even worse... branchcode is not even indexed for authorised_values!
19:25 tcohen       khall_away: still around?
19:16 tcohen       if you give me the query i can ask our DBA to do some research
19:16 tcohen       hmpf
19:16 mtompset     We don't have a key on branchname, but we use branchname in an order by.
19:15 mtompset     tcohen: There are some tiny optimizations that might be do able. e.g. branchname.
19:10 mtompset     Hmm... there's a thought... I'll go look.
19:08 tcohen       maybe we are just missing some index
19:07 tcohen       mtompset++
19:01 mtompset     with my patch... it takes a bit, but no timeout. :)
19:01 mtompset     I attempted to run it on my local VM and got a timeout.
19:00 mtompset     It looked like each inventory instance took up 210MB roughly.
18:59 mtompset     4 times UNFILTERED.
18:59 mtompset     Koha failures left and right.
18:58 mtompset     Ha ha. :P -- My friend's Koha service company had a client that got a 1GB VM with 78MB database. They ran inventory 4 times, and it blew the machine up.
18:57 tcohen       by the adjectives ;)
18:57 tcohen       i recognise your bugs
18:57 tcohen       i knew
18:56 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14057 major, P3, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Inventory is painfully slow
18:56 mtompset     Also, tcohen, I was working on bug 14057. ;)
18:56 mtompset     Okay.
18:54 tcohen       will need to check with robin how we proceed
18:54 tcohen       mtompset: thanks, I already put that on the bug heh
18:53 mtompset     Hopefully that will help you, tcohen. :)
18:45 pastebot     "mtompset" at pasted "PDF::FromHTML headache" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/69
18:44 mtompset     I had to manually cpan2deb a couple things to get it.
18:43 mtompset     BTW, who added a dependency on PDF:FromHTML?!
18:41 tcohen       you are a good person
18:40 mtompset     How about because I was helping reduce the "Patch does not apply" queue to the lowest I've seen it in ages?
18:40 tcohen       wrong choice :-D
18:40 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11814: Fix existing tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c5c6b3ca9b6b74512505ad5a603447856af31f9> / Bug 11814: Fix sql parameters order <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89bfc422e6b229aeadae4efc3c9a9182e64e19ea> / Bug 11814: (follow-up) Use constants to describe statuses <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4598479fd58b1145eb3
18:40 tcohen       ah, you are not getting cookies on that queue
18:39 * tcohen     still hates them, you know?
18:39 mtompset     Because I was busy trying to work my way up the sign off rankings.
18:39 * mtompset   laughs.
18:39 tcohen       mtompset: how is it that you haven't already cleaned all the warnings from the unit tets?
18:36 drojf        :)
18:35 tcohen       yumm
18:35 drojf        tcohen humansnack cookie
18:30 tcohen       loooooonelinessssssss
18:29 tcohen       Joubu: around?
18:26 tcohen       :/
18:26 huginn`      tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 44 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <cait> it would have been an option :)
18:26 tcohen       @seen cait
18:25 tcohen       I discovered some side effects on db_dependent tests thanks to shuffling the tests when running them
18:19 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8007: (followup) manually add the tag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84dd0f5c6ebf920d41af9b21e4b14a47c09de5b6>
18:19 mtompset     No matter. I'm pleased that despite it being floody, there seems to be progress made regardless of success to remedy. :)
18:13 tcohen       maybe queued notices
18:13 tcohen       which was wrong and not sending alerts
18:12 tcohen       that's because we've just fixed the jenkins configuration
18:11 mtompset     Okay, but I didn't know about it, until you merged a patch with my name associated with it. ;)
18:10 tcohen       d*mn
18:10 tcohen       and I broke a template with my followup
18:09 tcohen       Search.t is failing GRS-1 tests
18:09 tcohen       it's been, since the very begining, actually
18:07 mtompset     Looks like the D8 VM is a little noisy right now. :)
18:07 mtompset     Greetings, tcohen
18:05 tcohen       hi mtompset
17:12 huginn`      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 12 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <khall> so we'd need to keep track of that
17:12 mtompset     @seen khall
17:09 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
16:42 barton|lunch ... I presume that I could set a cookie via wget or curl, but I"m not quite sure how to do that.
16:41 barton|lunch ... I'm wondering how I get past 'get_session($sessionID);'
16:41 reiveune     bye
16:39 barton|lunch hey, does anyone have experience running koha '.pl' files from the command line?
16:23 gaetan_B     bye
16:07 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8007: (QA followup) was missing id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e80627171579f4fa39301180328c1ccf096cd638>
16:03 tcohen       grrrr
15:47 Oak          http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
15:46 nengard_away koha mailing list
15:46 wahanui      koha list is not hosted by biblibre
15:46 gerundio     koha list?
15:46 nengard      i have to run right now but maybe email the koha list to ask for suggestions
15:45 nengard      so maybe we should remove tha tlink
15:45 nengard      oh - that's me :) and I don't maintain it anymore cause it's all in the manual
15:45 gerundio     http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
15:45 gerundio     the FAQ page styles could use a little tweak
15:45 nengard      wizzyrea mainly I think
15:45 nengard      a bunch of people
15:45 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8007: (QA followup) fix charset collate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eea806f9efbb8135a10a6b60ddd0d475167789a3> / Bug 8007: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f50d28e77950f3f78c936d7c9dec3901b71c258> / Bug 8007: (QA followup) Add error handling when generating the pdf <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a333
15:45 gerundio     btw, off-topic, who's responsible for Koha's website?
15:44 nengard      heh - that's above my knowledge level :)
15:44 gerundio     this doesn't sound good :|
15:44 gerundio     EBSCO koha plugin mentions "use Patches folder to patch core Koha files and get greater integration"
15:43 nengard      :)
15:43 nengard      all done!
15:41 gerundio     maybe you should use replace the documentation link with http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/master/en/html-desktop/#pluginsystem
15:40 gerundio     nengard, thanks
15:40 nengard      khall can talk more to plugins
15:40 nengard      hope that helps
15:40 nengard      gerundio page updated again with a bit more info: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins#Plugins_for_use_with_Koha
15:39 gerundio     we recently got our catalogue integrated into their EDS solution
15:38 nengard      and then the video from kyle: http://bywatersolutions.com/2013/01/23/koha-plugin-system-coming-soon/
15:38 gerundio     I heard about the EBSCO one too
15:38 nengard      both on the page now
15:38 nengard      i'm not sure if anyone else is writing any - i know about the ebsco one and the bywater ones
15:38 nengard      gerundio updated the page with eds plugin
15:37 gerundio     are there any other plugins available?
15:37 gerundio     but wanted to learn a little more about it before doing so
15:37 gerundio     I was asked to enable plugins in our Koha installation
15:36 gerundio     other than that I only found http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/#pluginsystem
15:36 gerundio     this wiki article only points to ByWater plugins list
15:36 xarragon     nengard: Maybe he is asking if the user can disable or enable koha plugins, because his perception is that users can do that in wordpress?
15:35 nengard      lol
15:35 cbrannon     ahhhh....that's better.  My ego is at rest again
15:35 gerundio     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins
15:35 gerundio     maybe because there's not a lot to talk about yet
15:35 gerundio     nengard, good point
15:34 nengard      there
15:34 nengard      :)
15:34 nengard      cbrannon is an awesome librarian who loves koha
15:34 nengard      hehe
15:34 nengard      huh???
15:34 cbrannon     :)
15:33 cbrannon     why is nengard talking about wahanui and not me?
15:33 nengard      why is wahanui talking about wordpress plugins and not koha plugins?
15:31 wahanui      plugins are just enabled or disabled with Wordpress, aren't they?
15:31 gerundio     plugins?
15:00 khall        so we'd need to keep track of that
15:00 khall        but, those deps could change for the actual dependencies we have
15:00 khall        hmm, it would be more conservative and safe to add those dependencies to PerlDependencies.pm
14:49 tcohen       any thoughts?
14:46 tcohen       it seems that the perl libs are wrongly docuented regarding deps
14:45 tcohen       should we add those *stealth* dependencies to PerlDependencies.pm ?
14:45 tcohen       the question is
14:45 tcohen       most of them are packaged on wheeze, so we are ok
14:45 tcohen       you just get an error on building
14:44 tcohen       they seem not to carry the right dependency information
14:44 tcohen       the problem is that when u build those dependency packages
14:44 tcohen       which is ok and is already documented on PerlDependencies.pm
14:44 tcohen       the discharge management feature has several new dependencies
14:43 khall        mornin tcohen!
14:43 tcohen       i need advise
14:43 tcohen       hi Joubu khall
14:40 khall        thanks!
14:39 Joubu        khall: yes, will try next week
14:37 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14098 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Regression in Marc Modification Templates
14:37 khall        Joubu: can you take a look at the report for bug 14098 and let me know what you think?
14:20 bag          gmcharlt: thanks much as always :D
14:18 bag          cool awesome I’m glad you got it :)
14:18 gmcharlt     bag: I have received it ... today; I did not require a reminder
14:17 huginn`      bag: The operation succeeded.
14:17 bag          @later tell gmcharlt - I am not sure which email address she used to send to you - so you’ll have to check a few probably
14:13 huginn`      bag: The operation succeeded.
14:13 bag          @later tell gmcharlt - hey galen - you may have the MOU in your inbox waiting to be signed - any chance you can put that towards the top of the list for today?  Just need to digital-sign and send back to Joann - Thanks much as always!
14:06 tcohen       hi cait
13:57 magnuse      time for dinner - see y'all on monday!
13:56 magnuse      i am so looking forward to that :-)
13:56 magnuse      tcohen: very cool!
13:46 tcohen       magnuse: he actually agreed if we find the right dates/time
13:46 tcohen       hi bag!
13:44 bag          hi tcohen
13:44 magnuse      bag: HI
13:44 bag          hi magnuse
13:43 magnuse      oh, you have not given up on him :-)
13:41 tcohen       magnuse: i need to arrange a scehdule with rangi
13:28 magnuse      tcohen: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/333 at 1:00:11
13:27 tcohen       hi magnuse
13:25 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
13:21 tcohen       morning
12:39 drojf        later #koha
12:39 drojf        gotta go shopping before everything is sold out (berlin people turn crazy before a holiday)
12:39 drojf        liw: sieve looks nice, thanks for the pointer
12:39 magnuse      fun!
12:36 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14097 trivial, P5 - low, ---, julian.fiol, Needs Signoff , Add unit tests to C4::UsageStats
12:36 mveron       Ohh, it seems that testing Bug 14097 crashed my DB...
11:35 * mveron     coffeetime with a small piece of chocolat
11:21 liw          luckily, this is something where it's faily easy to get help, too
11:20 liw          *nod*
11:19 drojf        i consider myself capable of learning how to do it and i'm not easily scared off :) but i have seen that you can break stuff if you don't pay attention, so it's going to happen when i have some time to dedicate to it, not just in between a lot of other things
11:14 liw          I occasionally meet people who would like to run their own mail server, but are scared off by all the big-ISP propaganda about how difficult it is
11:12 drojf        it's more a "lots of other things to do" thing than a "there are no resources available" thing ;)
11:11 drojf        heh
11:10 liw          someone should offer a course for doing that
11:09 drojf        i have been "planning" to run my own for a while now. but it will probably need quite some time do learn how to do that in a reasonable way. i managed to slightly ddos the university mailserver once with a careless setup :P
11:03 liw          friends of mine run a small commercial mail service, and provide server side sieve filtering
11:03 liw          sieve is something a lot of IMAP server providers seem to support, so it may not be necessary to run one's own server (I run my own, just because I'm that kind of stupid)
11:02 drojf        liw: good point. i'm still procrastinating the "run your own mailserver" part so far, even though i know i shouldn't ;)
10:54 liw          drojf, I do all my mail filtering on the server side (with procmail, but I'd use sieve if I was setting it up now); that makes it easier to switch clients or to access mail from multiple machines
10:52 mario_       morning
10:46 drojf        moving filters from one account to another in thunderbird/icedove would be a nice feature. or global filters. *sigh*
10:45 drojf        (or maybe everything)
10:45 drojf        working now, i guess i have not missed much within a few minutes
10:42 cait         it would have been an option :)
10:30 drojf        i should probably have waited for the mailing list subscriptions with a different email address to work before cancelling the old ones ;)
10:21 cait         :)
10:21 drojf        lol
10:20 cait         cait humansnack lunch
10:08 wahanui      :)
10:08 cait         wahanui botsnack cookie
10:08 * mveron     has a meeting at the lunch table...
10:08 wahanui      rumour has it lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:08 * mveron     Lunchtime...
09:53 andreashm    same here. only working half a day tody.
09:53 cait         andreashm: quiet day before a long weekend i hope - holiday here tomorrow
09:45 andreashm    look
09:45 * andreashm  goes to lock at the irc logs
09:45 andreashm    so whats happening today?
09:40 cait         true :)
09:39 andreashm    cait: yeah, I can't only come by during the evenings! =)
09:39 andreashm    hey cait!
09:37 * magnuse    wanders off for walkies and lunch
09:36 cait         hi andreashm :) early for you today :)
09:35 xarragon     cait: Yep, had to add an extra Directory/grant entry for intranet and frontend and make sure the cgi module was enabled.
09:34 * andreashm  waves
09:07 cait         got it working now xarragon?
08:32 xarragon     Well, I was stupid enough to not have the cgi module enable it turns out.
08:25 xarragon     I assume it is supposed to be handled through the ScriptAlias /index.html for that particular file though.
08:24 xarragon     Is it normal that the web setup interface attempts to access koha/mainpage.pl, when the web root is configured to koha/koha-tmpl?
08:12 magnuse      hiya marcelr
08:10 marcelr      hi #koha
07:56 cait         have a meeting in 4 mins - bbl
07:56 cait         hi mveron
07:56 mveron       Hi everybody, anyway...
07:56 cait         maybe for the 20th anniversary ;)
07:56 mveron       :-)
07:56 cait         or we shoudl have a play-demo
07:54 mveron       drojf++  It'is really a nice screenshot, should be published in the timeline on the About page :-)
07:42 magnuse      sweet potato!
07:38 drojf        oh i did not even know about that
07:37 cait         or kumara
07:36 drojf        i should do koha 1 next :D
07:35 drojf        i think it works, have not used it ;)
07:35 cait         but... that's too new!
07:34 drojf        2.2.6
07:34 cait         that is 2.2.2?
07:34 cait         you got it working?
07:34 cait         lol
07:30 drojf        cait: http://abunchofthings.net/koha/226-opac.png http://abunchofthings.net/koha/226-staff.png :D
07:27 gaetan_B     hello
07:24 drojf        not sure what of that i needed, but it solved a problem i had
07:24 drojf        xarragon: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Appendix_B:_Troubleshooting
07:23 xarragon     drojf: Ok, thanks. I'll check it out.
07:23 xarragon     cait: It is probably not a bug; just me installing it blindly without understanding how koha works with the web setup.
07:23 drojf        regarding apache 2.4
07:22 drojf        there is a note on the koha on ubuntu wikipage that worked for me
07:22 cait         xarragon: hm might be worth filing a bug
07:19 xarragon     Ah, I see. The scriptaliases are incorrectly set up for my dev installation.
07:18 drojf        morning #koha
07:15 xarragon     Anyone running koha on apache 2.4, with the new permissions config syntax?
07:15 huginn`      alex_a: The current temperature in Limoges, France is 6.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on April 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:15 alex_a       @wunder gueret
07:14 alex_a       salut magnuse
07:14 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on April 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
07:14 magnuse      @wunder konstanz
07:14 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 10.3°C (9:01 AM CEST on April 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
07:14 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:14 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on April 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:14 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:14 magnuse      bonjour alex_a
07:00 alex_a       bonjour
06:47 xarragon     cait: ok, thx. See you later.
06:47 cait         have to go bbiab
06:47 cait         but it's all in your home directory in case of a dev install - you could delete koha-dev directory and be back with your git directory only (I think)
06:47 cait         xarragon: i think there is no automatic way
06:46 xarragon     Ehr, well, obviously not make since it is Perl, but..
06:45 reiveune     hello
06:45 xarragon     'sudo make uninstall' perhaps?
06:45 xarragon     I nonly see upgrade instructions on the wiki, and the Makefile.PL has no specific uninstall target.
06:44 xarragon     What is the proper way to uninstall koha completely, in case of a manual development installation?
06:42 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8796 normal, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , patron cards not starting on designated card
06:42 mveron       Does anybody have time to rebase Bug 8796 for 3.18.x ?
06:41 mveron       Good morning #koha (...or worldtime, wherever you are...)
06:22 * magnuse    waves at cait
06:03 * cait       waves at magnuse
05:46 * magnuse    waves
05:42 cait         have a nice evening
05:42 cait         heh - i was just trying to be nice!
05:42 * eythian    &
05:42 eythian      bye all!
05:41 eythian      well, if you're going to be like that, I will ;)
05:40 cait         then leave :)
05:40 eythian      automatic patching should only be a search and replace, so it shouldn't be too terrible
05:39 eythian      as part of that thread
05:39 cait         ok
05:39 eythian      I effectively have.
05:39 cait         shoudl we put out a note? there is an email right now on the mailing list about jessie
05:38 eythian      damn
05:38 eythian      ug but the files are installed on a per-instance basis. This means I'm going to have to write something that finds them and patches them too.
05:38 cait         :(
05:36 eythian      it essentially means that koha won't work out of the box without some changes to the zebra config.
05:35 eythian      That can be tomorrow's job.
05:35 eythian      changes to zebra packaging in jessie are annoying me. I think I have a solution on how to fix them.
05:34 cait         hi eythian :)
05:34 eythian      hi cait
05:33 cait         good morning #koha
04:55 eythian      dcook: I'm around now
04:54 eythian      that's a pita
04:54 eythian      so libidzebra-2.0-mod-dom in wheezy puts its libraries in a different place to in jessie
04:03 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha
01:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5685 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jseppal, Needs Signoff , Validation of email address field
01:30 mtompset     Okay bug 5685 down... now to follow up with the others...
00:38 mtompset     Okay... I'll update the patch then. :)
00:37 cdickinson   Yep
00:27 mtompset     Is the MIT license compatible with GPL3?