Time Nick Message 00:28 mtompset There... finally got Flash working for IE again. 00:29 mtompset Greetings, khall. :) 01:22 dcook Oh result browsers... you have so much to answer for.. 01:22 dcook Hmm or maybe it's just bad data 01:22 dcook Or both 01:24 dcook On an unrelated note, I could really go for a burrito right now... 01:43 mtompset I always blame the data. :) 02:23 wizzyrea blame the user, always a good policy (not really the best policy) 02:37 mtompset wizzyrea: Well, given that browsers change less than data, it is more likely the data. The problem is determine whether it really is the user's fault or a bug. 02:37 mtompset And it isn't the user's fault. It's a lack of training. :) 02:37 * wizzyrea notes that she wasn't really being serious 02:40 mtompset I didn't figure you were. Most people would not blame the users first, even though that is a knee-jerk reaction when I'm in a bad mood. :) 03:00 eythian http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/105 <-- well that's more complicated than I expected 03:01 bag @later tell rangi http://snag.gy/lLulA.jpg 03:01 huginn` bag: The operation succeeded. 03:40 * bag heads to bed 04:12 eythian wahanui: excuse 04:12 wahanui eythian: Me no internet, only janitor, me just wax floors. 04:14 wizzyrea *shakes head* 04:29 mveron Good daytime #koha 04:30 eythian hi mveron 04:30 mveron hi eythian 04:31 mveron hi mtompset 04:31 mtompset Greetings, mveron. 04:31 mveron mtompset: I'm about to sign-off Bug 14066 04:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14066 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha code does not really use Readonly 04:31 mtompset YAY! 04:32 mtompset If it passes QA, then we can resolve invalid the 13767. :) 04:32 mveron Test plan says: prove -v t/db_dependent/Calendar.t - but I do not have such file 04:32 mveron I have only t/Calendar.t 04:33 mveron All other tests pass 04:33 mtompset Oops... :) 04:33 mveron Meaning: Everything is OK? 04:34 mtompset Everything is okay, that shouldn't be there. :) 04:34 mtompset grep -l "Koha::Calendar" `find t -type f` 04:34 mtompset t/Calendar.t 04:34 mtompset t/db_dependent/Holidays.t 04:34 mveron Both OK 04:35 mtompset t/db_dependent/Holds.t -- if you want to be ultra safe... it uses C4::Calendar 04:35 mtompset But the oops is my test plan is a little off, not a problem with the actual code. :) 04:37 mtompset But perhaps the test for Holds needs to be tweaked? 04:37 mtompset (a new bug?) 04:38 mveron I have errors on t/db_dependent/Holds.t : Duplicate entry for key "PRIMARY' at ...Reserves.pm line 1150 04:38 mtompset (plus extra work it would seem) 04:39 mtompset Ah... another bug? 04:40 mtompset we really must stop finding places to polish. :) 04:40 mveron Seems not to be related to 14066 - I will sign off... 04:42 mtompset I agree. 04:45 mtompset I suspect the issue is if you create a reserve and cancel it and then run the Holds test, it will fail, because there already is a cancelled reserve of that number? Hmmm... or something like that. Not sure. 04:49 wizzyrea eythian++ for being a champion package maintainer 04:49 eythian to be fair, I'm fixing my own problems :) 04:49 wizzyrea yeah but you're fixing them. 04:49 mtompset mveron: You squashed the patches together? 04:50 mveron Not finished yet... 04:50 mtompset Okay. :) 04:52 mtompset Yes, eythian, your response time is reasonable. It's not like you take a 2 week vacation after releasing something buggy. :) 04:53 eythian heh I try not to :) 04:54 mtompset Okay, so if I attempt to roll my own packages, and install that fresh, this should work. 04:55 mtompset And if I have an oldstable install and attempt to use the rolled packages, it should work. 04:55 mtompset That's the test plan, eythian? 04:55 * dcook has often wondered where Readonly got used... 04:56 eythian mtompset: well, in this case it should work as a fresh install, but it should also work if you have any older version. 04:57 mtompset Like I said, those two things should both work, and my suggestion is a reasonable test plan, right? 04:57 mtompset I'll spend the next while testing it, if so. 04:57 eythian oh, I missed the first half 04:57 eythian yes 04:58 mtompset We can blame BobB. ;) Greetings, BobB. :) 04:58 eythian yep, his fault :) 04:59 mtompset Great. This also gives me a chance to get my Jessie VM package rolling capable. :) 05:03 BobB sorry I stuffed up obviously :) 05:03 BobB what was I doing? 05:04 BobB anyway, I'll be sure not to do it again 05:04 mveron mtompset: Bug 14066 signed off - after some early morning mistakes with the patches ... 05:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14066 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha code does not really use Readonly 05:04 * mveron needs coffee 05:05 mtompset No problem. I should be going to bed soon, but I want to sign off eythian's patch. :) 05:05 dcook Does coffee really work? 05:05 * dcook hasn't had coffee in years and doesn't really notice its absence 05:05 cdickinson I just don't have coffee 05:05 mtompset dcook: Some people replace their caffeine addiction with sugar. ;) 05:05 dcook Actually, I don't think I have any caffeine coming in. Don't drink tea or coffee or soft drink. 05:05 dcook Hmm, I'm not much of a sugar person either 05:06 mtompset Do you eat carbs? 05:06 dcook Touche 05:06 cdickinson low carb here 05:06 * dcook would eat all the carbs if he could 05:06 dcook Really. All of them. Love me some carbs. 05:06 mveron dcook: I simply love coffee :-) 05:06 dcook mveron: Fair enough. It does smell awesome. 05:06 dcook :) 05:07 mtompset Me too, dcook. But since I have given them up for the most part, I have had significant success in my weightloss. 05:07 mtompset 298 -> 216.5 in about 2 years (~ .75lbs per week) 05:08 mveron Lower room temerature by 2° - that helps loosing weight... 05:08 mveron temperature 05:08 wahanui temperature is ok for me 05:08 mveron wahanui... 05:08 wahanui i am a strange duck 05:08 mtompset wahanui: forget temperature 05:08 wahanui mtompset: I forgot temperature 05:08 mveron wahanui: forget yourself 05:08 wahanui mveron, I didn't have anything matching yourself 05:09 mveron wahanui: :-) 05:09 wahanui mveron: sorry... 05:09 mtompset wahanui? 05:09 wahanui mtompset? 05:09 mtompset wahanui? 05:09 wahanui mtompset? 05:09 mtompset I was hoping for some randomness there. Oh well. ;) 05:10 dcook Nice one, mtompset 05:10 dcook If only eating more carbs could increase my weight 05:10 eythian wahanui: be wahanui 05:10 wahanui Look at me! I'm a bot! Beep beep! Boop boop! 05:10 dcook Of course, I won't be saying that in a few years when my metabolism decides to betray me 05:11 eythian http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Death-by-Delete 05:15 dcook O_O 05:16 mtompset SCARY! 05:20 mtompset eythian: I have a problem rolling a package. 05:21 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Last bit of the rolling..." (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/67 05:21 eythian you attempted to build a package with something like '-1' in its version number. 05:23 mtompset sudo ./debian/build-git-snapshot -r ~/debian -v 3.18.06-9git -d 05:23 eythian yep 05:23 eythian -9git 05:23 eythian you can't have that 05:23 mtompset 3.18.06vgit? 05:24 mtompset What should I roll it as? 05:24 eythian whatever you like really 05:24 eythian you just can't have - 05:24 mtompset Okay. 05:24 eythian tbh, I would just let it work out its own version 05:24 eythian it'll probably give you a 3.19 or something, but that's fine for testing. 05:24 mtompset Then http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way needs tweaking. 05:25 eythian yep, it's using older build tools that just warned in this situation 05:26 * eythian wants to totally change the whole packaging process some time soonish 05:27 eythian in order to make it so that all the pkg-perl tools can work with it. 05:33 mveron eythian: I have somebody asking about 3.18.06.000 - This is the newset, stable version, right? 05:34 eythian yes, I didn't bump the internal version number because it's totally a packaging only change 05:34 eythian hi cait 05:34 cait hi #koha 05:34 cait hi eythian 05:34 mveron So if he did abt-get update and apt-get upgrade everything should be OK? 05:34 mveron apt... 05:34 mveron Hi cait :-) 05:35 eythian mveron: yeah, and if it installs without errors, then it'll be fine anyway 05:35 eythian it was just interfering with installs in certain situations. 05:35 cait brb 05:43 mveron eythian: Thanks! 05:48 mtompset Maybe... Having issues rolling... but it might be working now. 05:50 eythian that's pretty definitely what that error message means 05:51 mtompset wheee....lots of scrolling... I think that's a good sign. :) 05:52 mtompset NOOOOOO! 05:53 mtompset DateTime::Format::DateParse -- I hate you so much. 05:53 cait isn't that dead? 05:55 mtompset C4::Accounts 05:55 wahanui hmmm... C4::Accounts is gone now? 05:55 mveron Somebody evaluating Koha complains about missing dateformat Bug 12072 and its blocked by Bug 13813 05:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy 05:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13813 normal, P3, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system 05:55 mveron It's a pain 05:57 cait bug 13601 05:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13601 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Get rid of DateTime::Format::DateParse 05:58 eythian mtompset: oh, that's something weird that happened. 05:58 eythian I ended up readding it for my builds. 05:58 mtompset I just realized I'm trying to roll 3.18.x 05:59 mtompset DOH! This test needs to be on master. DOH! 05:59 eythian yeah, that's probably best 05:59 eythian I need to readd it in upstream, I don't know why it went away. 06:00 eythian you can also grab the -packaging branches of git.catalyst.net.nz/koha.git 06:00 eythian I try to remember to push all my branches that the packaging is done on to there. 06:01 mtompset It's okay... failures help me remember how to do it right once I succeed. :) 06:02 eythian I'd manually add it to debian/control for testing porpoises. 06:04 * magnuse waves 06:04 mtompset Greetings, magnuse. Did you see that bug with a testing plan just for you? :) 06:04 eythian hi magnuse 06:06 mtompset I have a 3.18.x build. YAY! 06:06 mtompset Now to actually do master like I should have. :) 06:08 magnuse mtompset: yeah, not had the time for it yet 06:08 magnuse kia ora eythian 06:09 mtompset I thought it was a bromance kind of thing to do. A specific test plan just for you. :) 06:13 eythian later 06:13 * eythian & 06:13 mtompset Bye, eythian. 06:17 mtompset Greetings, indradg. 06:27 magnuse mtompset: could be, who knows? ;-) 06:27 mtompset :) Well, I was hoping there is more than just you in Norway. :) 06:29 magnuse there are some people here besides me, yes, but i am probably the only technically inclined person who cares about normarc in koha 06:30 ashimema morning 06:32 cait mornng 06:35 ashimema eythian thanks for jumping on the packaging issues so quick 06:36 ashimema whats the issue with - release numbers in debian eythian? 06:37 ashimema I've been building -1ptfs etc for a while now 06:37 ashimema seems to work as expected 06:44 * dcook thinks eythian is out for the day 06:44 reiveune hello 06:44 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:44 ashimema me to 06:44 ashimema breakfast time now 06:44 cdickinson it's nearly 7pm here, dcook, so he would be :P 06:45 cdickinson though at Catalyst you can work late if you need to 06:46 magnuse eythian cleverly put himself in the background with a "/me eythian &" 06:46 magnuse @wunder boo 06:46 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 06:47 cdickinson @wunder nzwn 06:47 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (6:30 PM NZST on April 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 06:52 magnuse kia ora Viktor 06:53 Viktor Kia ora magnuse :) 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:58 magnuse bonjour alex_a 06:59 sophie_m hello #koha 06:59 sophie_m It's quite windy here today 07:02 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:02 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on April 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 07:09 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 07:09 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 6.6°C (8:01 AM BST on April 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 07:09 mtompset Well, this building and installing of a rolled installation is not going as planned. 07:09 mtompset I'll attempt bug 14068 after some sleep. :) 07:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14068 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Bug 14055 breaks new package installs 07:10 mtompset Have a great day, #koha ashimema magnuse sophie_m alex_a Jul Viktor 07:24 gaetan_B hello 07:24 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 07:31 drojf morning #koha 07:32 mveron Hi drojf :-) 07:32 drojf hi mveron :) 07:34 mveron If qatools simply say fail [file name] how can I find out why it failed 07:34 mveron ? 07:49 Joubu mveron: What's the failure? 07:50 mveron It simply says FAIL C4/Koha.pm, nothing else. After applying patch for Bug 14063 07:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14063 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Implement language overlay for authorised values 07:56 magnuse mveron: can you increase the verbosity? 07:56 mveron Oh, stupid me, I had a typo :-) 07:57 mveron Thanks magnuse and Joubu 07:57 * mveron will fix a trailing whitespace... 07:57 mveron brb 08:21 mveron Hi again, cait :-) 08:22 cait hi again mveron :) 09:56 Joubu nlegrand: Hi! Have you seen I have submited a patch for bug 13810? 09:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13810 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent updatedatabase.pl from breaking because of case insensitive utf8 collation 10:44 Bibin Hey Koha i'm not realy good at sql i wanna make a title list from a certain item type (CR in theis case) annyone knows how ? (koha 3.14) 11:15 cait Joubu: it's hard to keep up with you - fixing all the bugs :) 11:17 Joubu heh :) 11:23 cait trying to figure out why renewing a subscription would not work 11:23 cait serials-- 12:13 drojf mveron++ # very nice feature 12:18 mveron drojf++ for testing Bug 14063 :-) - We need such things in our multilingual country... 12:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14063 enhancement, P3, ---, veron, Signed Off , Implement language overlay for authorised values 13:09 magnuse drojf++ for testing 13:10 drojf i assume the test plan for bug 14068 is "apply patch, build package, do upgrade with package, do fresh install with package" ? 13:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14068 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Bug 14055 breaks new package installs 13:11 drojf hei magnuse 13:28 cait drojf: sounds good - but probably do an update too 13:28 cait covering both cases 13:29 cait and drojf++ mveron++ :) 13:29 cait fixing all our weird problems :) 13:29 mveron thanks, cait :-) 13:30 * mveron has a meeting at the coffee table... 13:32 cait cake? cookies? 13:51 mveron cait: It was kind of 'Dänischer Plunder' topped with strawberries... 13:54 cait mmh yum 14:08 TGoat-Driving Good morning .. heading out :-$ 14:20 reiveune bye 15:39 gaetan_B bye 17:38 xarragon Is it possible to have Koha-required Perl modules installed to something like /var/www/koha/perl5 and configure apache to use that rather than having CPAN mess around on my system? 17:39 cait which OS are you using? 17:39 xarragon Debian jessie 17:39 cait then you shouldn#t use CPAN at all :) 17:39 cait use the packages: packages? 17:39 cait packages? 17:39 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 17:40 tcohen hi 17:40 wahanui niihau, tcohen 17:40 cait hi tcohen :) 17:40 tcohen finally online 17:41 cait tcohen: work? 17:41 wahanui somebody said work was progressing nicely 17:41 * magnuse waves 17:41 cait xarragon: it's the recommended installation method - if you require a dev environment there is also a way to install only the dependencies from packages 17:42 tcohen firewall issues with IRC + tons of requests at the office 17:43 cait ew 17:43 xarragon cait: Yeah, this is intended for development. I am not too familiar with package management under Perl; I've simply always used the distro packages and laughed at things like node-js and pyhton that requires virtual environments to manage volatility. 17:44 cait xarragon: there are different ways to set up a dev environment 17:44 cait some use koha-gitify? 17:44 cait koha-gitify? 17:44 cait hm the bot is not listening 17:45 cait I install the koha dependencies with the packages and then install in dev mode (quite classic) - and there is also the koha-devbox 17:45 cait https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox 17:46 cait koha-gitify is https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify 17:47 xarragon My plan was to use the packages for deps; I simply assumed there was no jessie-compatible version yet and then manually install the git version. 17:47 cait hm and this doesn't look too bad for a dev instalation: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git 17:47 xarragon Yeah that's the one I have been looking at. 17:47 cait that should pull in what you need - not sure if it has the very newest yet, but it might 17:47 cait sudo apt-get install koha-deps koha-perldeps 17:48 cait for a dev environment you will need git 17:48 cait tcohen: tell me when i talk nonsense :) 17:48 xarragon cait: Git is installed and configured and the main repo has already been cloned. 17:49 cait cool - so what were you using CPAN for? was soemthing missing? 17:49 xarragon I was reading thought the Perl makefile to figure out how all the pieces fit togethe. 17:49 cait oh not sure that's a recommendable first read :) 17:49 xarragon cait: Following the INSTALL instr. I launched Makefile.pl as regular user to see what happened, ut it required DBIx/Connector.pm 17:50 cait right 17:50 cait it's new for the next version 17:50 cait sudo apt-get install libdbix-connector-perl should do it 17:50 xarragon I was under the impression that using the distro packages was a bad idea with the git version, hence CPAN pondering. 17:50 cait ah no 17:50 cait we recommend against using CPAN 17:51 xarragon Well then all is good since it is much easier with the distribution packages imho. 17:51 xarragon I have use cpanminus before though. 17:52 xarragon Most perl package management tools seems set up for a single installation in the current user's home directory though. 17:53 xarragon cait: Ok, I'll check out the gitify thing befoe I do any more harm. Thanks for the help. 17:53 cait if you already have a git clone and the dependencies 17:53 cait you could also do a dev installation - runnignt he makefile.pl and pick dev and the defaults 17:54 cait the gitify has soome advantages, but also some minor catches for testing certain things 17:56 xarragon Hm, okay.. I guess I'll do the dev installation then. Otherwise I'd have to read thought the gitify to figure what it does before I let it run rampant on my machine with root access. 17:59 * tcohen depends too much on the OS notification icon to track he's IRC session 18:00 xarragon Better than the habitual cycling to the IRC window every other minute that you might develop otherwise. :-) 18:13 xarragon cait: I had to install 3 other packages in order to get the installer rolling; I am thinking it might be a good idea to add a small page for debian jessie to the wiki? 18:14 xarragon (I am writing down my steps taken for that purpose) 18:15 cait xarragon: it's not jessie i think - we are about to release 3.20 18:15 cait the dependencies are probably ont added yet to the koha-perl-deps thing... 18:16 cait yet 18:16 xarragon cait: Ah, right.. I only installed koha-deps. My mistake! 18:16 cait tcohen: is that about right? 18:18 cait xarragon: i hope i am telling you the right things :) 18:18 xarragon I am just thankful for all the help. 18:19 xarragon I reinstalled this machine just for the Koha development, and debian snuck this new version in under the radar for me.. So I have spent most time just hitting it with a stick to get off the ground and actually been able to focus on koha development. 18:23 cait i run ubuntu, but hope there won't beany problems 18:23 cait xarragon: where are you from? 18:24 xarragon cait: Sweden 18:24 cait ah cool 18:25 cait i am in Germany :) 18:25 xarragon ah, Guten Abend! 18:25 xarragon cait: I was in franfurt am Main a few weeks agoe, visiting a friend. 18:25 cait :) 18:26 cait i am in Konstanz - at the lake Bodensee 18:35 xarragon cait: Oh, that's actually the same region of the country then. 18:35 cait not too far away 18:35 cait but different state :) 18:39 wnickc hi cait 18:49 cait hi wnickc :) 18:50 wnickc quick ubuntu question since you mentioned it before, does your zebra get out of whack on a restart? 18:52 cait wnickc: no - but that's on me 18:52 xarragon Does koha use local::lib for it's internal module loading? 18:53 xarragon Since it seems to use PERL5LIB? 18:53 cait xarragon: sorry, i don't know 18:53 xarragon Oh, well.. I'll know in time. This was what I wasted a lot of time looking at, figuring out how all the installation parts fit together. 18:54 cait wnickc: i mean i think it should work, but I probably didn't set it up correctlly 18:54 cait xarragon: I am sure someone else would know - but I am the wrong person to ask :) 18:57 xarragon Hmm, seems like I might not even needed sudo for make install, since the config stuff ends up under my home dir. 18:57 xarragon That, however, requires me to make it world-readable. 19:02 wnickc cait: yeah, I have to reload my database on a restart to get it going, something with the var/lock directories 19:02 wnickc it's fine since it's dev only and a workable workaround 19:02 wnickc just curious 19:03 cait wnickc: hm i only have to start the zebrasrv manually 19:03 cait never need to reindex 19:04 cait have you tried to create the directories it complains about? 19:06 eskaaren Which ubuntu version? On 14.04 the init.d scripts for mysql is not linked correctly to upstart so you get problems if using them. Use service mysql restart instead. 19:06 wnickc 14.04 19:07 wnickc only tried recreating once, I kind of figured it was my fault for running my dev setup on a celeron laptop :) 19:07 wnickc I will try that eskaaren 19:08 xarragon wnickc: The shame of running of a celeron would kill the process, or? :-) 19:09 xarragon wnickc: Because I am running it on a 10 year old laptop, so I think it will end badly for me as well if that is the case. 19:10 wnickc hehe 19:14 lletelier_ Hi guys, asking about ilsdi.pl , this API supports fines info ? 19:14 lletelier_ Hi guys, asking about ilsdi.pl , this API supports fines info ? 19:16 geek_cl ohhhh its show_fines :) 19:18 lletelier_ something like, cgi-bin/koha/ilsdi.pl?service=GetPatronInfo&patron_id=1&show_fines=0 19:18 * lletelier_ uh? 19:23 geek_cl or is like ? cgi-bin/koha/ilsdi.pl?service=GetPatronInfo&patron_id=1&show_fines=1 19:23 geek_cl anyone? 19:23 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? 19:25 xarragon Anyone else on jessie that has the default web page still show up despite disabling it, checking that there is NO symlink in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and explicitly restarting/reloading the server via systemd? 19:26 xarragon I had this trouble before I even tried installing koha into the site structure. 19:26 geek_cl systemctl restart apache2/httpd 19:29 xarragon Well, I have done that.. And I actually accidentially symlinked the xml file into sites-enabled instead of the .conf-file, which made it choke on a restart. 19:30 xarragon Which i simply fixed, and it restarts/reloads correctly. I do have the rewrite module installed and enabled, if that could be the culprit. 19:30 cait so it still doesn't work? 19:30 cait and you a2disite the default one? 19:31 xarragon Yep, 'Site 000-default is already disabled' 19:31 xarragon But it is not koha-specifik, as i said, it is something present in the fresh install. 19:31 cait hm not sure then 19:32 tcohen hi 19:32 wahanui bonjour, tcohen 19:32 xarragon I will enable full logging and check it step by step 19:32 tcohen what is the problem? 19:32 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 19:33 xarragon Viktor: hello there. 19:35 tcohen xarragon: what is the problem? 19:35 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 19:40 cait hi Viktor :) 19:40 cait xarragon: just in case.. wahanui and huginn are our bots - don't let them confuse you 19:40 cait tcohen: the default apache site won't go away 19:42 Viktor Hi xarragon and Cait! 19:43 Viktor (if people are still around and I'm not just seing cached greetings from last time I opened the coputer that is :) 19:43 cait heh 19:44 cait we are real, don't worry 19:44 Viktor Glad to hear you are still both real and online cait :) 19:45 Viktor But since my "XChat Azure" have no timestamps for the chat I always wonder if I see old or current dialog :) 19:46 cait one of the reaosns i like pidgin :) 19:50 Viktor I just found one that worked and kept it, but I think it might be time to look for a new client. 19:50 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8992: DBRev 3.19.00.031 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3450b2de775033236d5277a2796778841999458> / Bug 8992: Add 7..$3 to the Indentifier-standard index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5e9691060f5f462145cf303629428bef382fa39> / Bug 8992: Add the greybox include file for the bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff; 20:57 tcohen @later tell Joubu followup needed: prove xt/tt_valid.t 20:57 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 21:18 * cait waves 21:21 tcohen bye cait 21:22 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8992: (QA followup) was missing id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a585ec7fe870a0c6145c91bc4c81d7439e34ef0> 21:22 cait bye tcohen 21:22 cait have a nice evening 21:24 JesseM Hi cait 21:24 JesseM I have a question for you 21:25 JesseM EnhancedMessagingPreferences - system preference. If you change it to 'don't allow' the notices tab from the patron record disappears as well. Is this supposed to happen? 21:27 pianohacker Didn't EnhancedMessagingPreferences die? (possibly wishful thinking...) 21:28 amyk heh 21:29 JesseM i think cait went to bed :D 21:29 JesseM its still there pianohacker 21:29 cait yes 21:29 cait it's turning off the feature totally 21:30 JesseM Okay. Thanks cait 21:30 cait there is a bug for just turning it off in the patron account somewhere in bugzilla 21:30 cait in case you don't want the patrons to change their settings 21:31 JesseM :D thanks cait 21:43 eythian hi 21:46 cait hi eythian 21:47 cait night all 21:47 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 22:20 * Francesca waves