Time  Nick        Message
23:43 mtompset    Nice find, rangi. :)
23:35 eythian     gmcharlt: you about?
23:33 wizzyrea    americauliflower.
23:33 wizzyrea    onion man
23:32 wizzyrea    loool
23:28 rangi       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHPn5d7wRtk
23:25 mtompset    Poop to weightlifting... interesting.
23:25 wizzyrea    oh, different type of guns.
23:25 wizzyrea    I...how did we get to weightlifters?
23:14 dcook       I think all the weightlifters I know are Canadian, so maybe it's a metaphor?
23:13 dcook       Also lots of guns, I guess
23:13 dcook       We should package and export it...
23:13 dcook       Really... a lot
23:13 dcook       I suppose Canada does have a lot of goose poop
23:13 * wizzyrea  puts that away because could easily lose an hour there.
23:12 wizzyrea    that's not a good look :P
23:12 wizzyrea    poop and guns for canada, dcook.
23:11 wizzyrea    does it seem weird that US english prefers "royalty" category, and AU it doesn't even register...
23:10 dcook       "female-oriented emoji"?
23:10 dcook       It just happens!
23:10 dcook       I don't mean to... :p
23:10 dcook       I suppose a few accidentally...
23:10 dcook       I don't think I use emoji, so I'm not sure what that means
23:09 wizzyrea    I guess it would depend on what the competition is over. :P
23:09 dcook       Oh, I figure I'm doomed
23:09 wizzyrea    or maybe he's won all the things.
23:09 eythian     http://swiftkey.com/en/blog/americans-love-skulls-brazilians-love-cats-swiftkey-emoji-meanings-report/ <-- "Australia is the land of vices and indulgence", "Canadians score highest for the poop emoji", you can't win, dcook
23:09 dcook       That commute would suck...
23:09 dcook       Does it phase out of this dimension sometimes?
23:09 dcook       ish?
23:08 wizzyrea    yes-ish
23:08 dcook       Work trip to Koha Community Cafe ;)
23:08 dcook       wizzyrea: Don't you guys have an office there as well?
23:08 dcook       Still have yet to go to Lentil As Anything...
23:08 wizzyrea    hey that's a perfectly sensible place to visit ^.^
23:08 wizzyrea    Melbourne, afaict :D
23:07 dcook       I know, right? They don't say what city, but I'm guessing Melbourne?
23:07 wizzyrea    so we can visit them some day, the clash of the koha communities :D
23:07 wizzyrea    now I want to know where that cafe is :)
23:07 dcook       Well, not "they" per se...
23:07 dcook       It's just interesting what they chose to shuffle
23:07 dcook       :p
23:06 eythian     yeah, that's how personalised search results work :)
23:05 dcook       Interesting... after clicking on that Facebook link, it has totally changed the page 2+ results
23:01 dcook       Btw, k-c comes up as the 2nd result for me here
23:01 dcook       Neat -> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Koha-Community-Cafe/323847370751
22:58 eythian     https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/NdVv7BEDastFmKa <-- and what it looks like to me on duckduckgo
22:50 eythian     http://i.imgur.com/HDTxD20.png <-- for comparison, that's what I get.
22:49 mtompset    Screen shot removed now. But yes, Liblime's link was first.
22:47 wizzyrea    for kc.
22:47 wizzyrea    but we're coming up on 5
22:47 wizzyrea    tough to beat 10 years of history :)
22:47 rangi       yep, it's flipped in nz now :)
22:46 wizzyrea    nah that's how it always is :)
22:45 mtompset    http://snag.gy/TMLFL.jpg
22:45 rangi       it'll get there eventually everywhere :)
22:45 rangi       its just passed in nz
22:44 rangi       just trying to see where things rank around the world
22:44 mtompset    You won't be happy.
22:44 mtompset    google search for koha? Sure... doing
22:43 rangi       do a google search for koha
22:43 rangi       mtompset: can you do me a quick favour
22:35 mtompset    Silly people leaving on time. :)
22:35 huginn`     mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 46 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <tcohen> but it seems one of the bosses is still around
22:35 mtompset    @seen tcohen
22:35 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
21:34 eythian     jajm: rule of thumb is that if it's not acceptable to debian, it's not acceptable to debian.k-c.org. There are still workarounds, the issue is due to a bug in something else, so I have things I can try.
21:19 * wizzyrea  waves
21:10 rangi       morning
21:07 gmcharlt    wizzyrea++
21:02 magnuse     have fun #koha!
20:44 cbrannon    Good to know.  Time to sign off on some things again.
20:44 cait        well it will update it - but not change yoursettings
20:43 cait        cbrannon: that should not change your database/koha
20:43 nengard     LOL
20:43 wahanui     cbrannon is attempting to setup a test box for Koha.  I am in debian and use "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error.  Any ideas what I am doing wrong?  FYI, I've never used debian before today.
20:43 nengard     hey cbrannon
20:43 cbrannon    Hey, Nicole!
20:43 cbrannon    nevermind.  It looks like it is just updating itself.  :/  Can you tell I don't do this much.  Geez.
20:38 cbrannon    So, when I update my master, do I usually need to fetch and rebase?  It appears my Koha is a new installation again.  Was there something I should have done different to keep my settings?
20:37 cait        np
20:37 cbrannon    Wasn't very self explanitory.  :/  Thank you cait!
20:36 cait        not sure i can explain what it does
20:36 cait        it's a new dependency
20:36 cait        dunno heh
20:36 cbrannon    That did it.  What did I just install?
20:35 cait        sudo apt-get install libdbix-connector-perl
20:34 cait        try
20:34 cait        you need to install it
20:34 cbrannon    Just did a git fetch and git rebase origin/master on my VM for Koha.  When I try to bring up Koha or Koha admin in browswer I am getting error Cant locate DBIx/Connector.pm in @INC (and more).  Anyone have any ideas what I might have missed?
20:03 andreashm   hey magnuse
20:00 magnuse     kia ora andreashm
19:56 andreashm   evening
19:52 * magnuse   imgaines tcohen running off
19:49 tcohen      but it seems one of the bosses is still around
19:48 tcohen      yeah, i thought i was locked inside the offcice
19:48 magnuse     quitters!
19:48 magnuse     ah, tcohen probably meant everyone irl? :-)
19:48 * magnuse   is here, sort of
19:42 tcohen      oops
19:42 tcohen      has left...
19:42 * tcohen    just noticed everyone around
19:39 * magnuse   knuckles bag
19:39 bag         knuckles the midday lunch knuckles
19:04 * mveron    waves the evening wave back...
19:01 * magnuse   waves the evening wave
18:39 * barton    waves the midday wave.
16:40 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9878: Add consistentcy on restriction messages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ebdbf04819aaeca82d2a5d5dfbcf120e08ee153> / Bug 12404: FIX documentation to join subfield <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c33c56028fb39a464a780b2a22e95af0da73585f> / Bug 12404: Allow equal sign '=' in the TT directive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
16:39 cait        hi all
16:26 tcohen      khall_away: i'm back
16:20 gaetan_B    bye
15:47 Joubu       bye #koha
15:36 TGoat       Good morning Koha .. will someone please tell me if EDI will be in the next release of Koha? Greatly appreciated. PS - you're all awesome .. thank you!
15:33 misilot     is there a way to tell who is logged in currently into the staff side? And from what IP address?
15:26 reiveune    bye
15:12 khall       tcohen around?
13:41 andreashm   kivilahtio: do you use goodstuff (pvsupa) at Vaara?
13:35 * andreashm waves
13:09 jcamins     I think at the time FreeBSD had Perl 5.6 or 5.8 as the system default.
13:09 jcamins     That was a while ago, though.
13:09 kivilahtio  jcamins: oooo, really :)
13:09 jcamins     kivilahtio: I had issues with Perl dependencies.
13:08 kivilahtio  jcamins:  what hapened?
13:07 jcamins     No.
13:07 tcohen      jcamins: did u succeed?
13:07 jcamins     I tried porting Koha to FreeBSD once.
13:06 kivilahtio  well I guess we can always switch to BSD if theings get hairy :)
13:05 kivilahtio  systemd brings some real upgrades, but I agree that systemd went by prety fast
13:05 tcohen      i think we need to move on
13:05 tcohen      but as long as debian adopted it (canonical being part of the decision board puts ubuntu on the same side)
13:04 tcohen      or a sigle person/company making the decision of leaving POSIX behind
13:04 tcohen      kivilahtio: i don't like the systemd approach
13:02 kivilahtio  but I don't want another svchost, like tey say
13:02 kivilahtio  btrfs is nice and I like the control panel mechanism, much like iptables
13:02 kivilahtio  tcohen: and it feels awful lot like btrfs
13:02 magnuse     you can try ;-)
13:02 kivilahtio  tcohen: I think so. I cannot be fighting agains everything I guess :)
13:01 tcohen      kivilahtio: debian adopted full systemd-support so i think we shoul dgo that way
13:01 kivilahtio  tcohen: I am just curios what is worth learning more of
13:01 kivilahtio  tcohen: true, but it affects should I start learning systemd or OpenRC?
13:01 tcohen      the only problem (for now) would be that our zebra and indexing daemon init scripts stopped working and we would need to rewrite them
13:00 tcohen      kivilahtio: i don't think the discussion affects Koha right now
12:59 Joubu       tcohen: yep
12:57 kivilahtio  tcohen: I think everybody has a lot of good arguments and I don't know what to think of it
12:56 kivilahtio  tcohen: or try to stay far away from it
12:56 kivilahtio  tcohen: I was more curious about hsould we want to move to systemd
12:56 tcohen      kivilahtio: it is for now backwards compatible with sysv init script
12:55 kivilahtio  I was reading yesterday about systemd + init + OpenRC + upstart. there seems to have been some heated debate about the future of Linux. Does anybody have any opinions about where Koha is going now that ubuntu decided to adopt systemd as well?
12:45 tcohen      Joubu: around?
12:37 huginn`     tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 7 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved!
12:37 tcohen      @seen dpavlin
12:36 huginn`     tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 1 minute, and 8 seconds ago: <cait> hi drojf :)
12:36 tcohen      @seen cait
12:35 tcohen      morning
12:13 magnuse     hiya francharb
12:12 francharb   good morning
10:46 * mveron    lunch
09:52 * magnuse   magnus_lunch
09:49 gerundio    what should be its contents? the OPAC EN language files?
09:49 gerundio    the en dir at /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/fct/ doesn't even exist
09:48 gerundio    this error occurs "/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/fct/en/: Input must be a directory. (Symbolic links are not supported at the moment)"
09:48 gerundio    I'm trying to perform an update on my Portuguese translation on Koha using "sudo koha-translate -u pt-PT"
09:47 gerundio    hi, good morning
09:35 magnuse     kia ora slef!
09:10 andreashm   jajm: ok, thanks
09:09 jajm        andreashm, ebsco is sponsoring some work on the REST API, yes
09:08 magnuse     jajm might know more about that?
09:07 magnuse     i think it is one of the things ebsco is sponsoring?
09:03 andreashm   is anyone sponsoring the REST API work or is it done "on the side"?
09:00 andreashm   magnuse: thanks!
08:59 magnuse     andreashm: if you want to follow the development of a bug you can add yourself to the "CC List" of that bug and get email every time there is a new comment/attachment/etc. just cklick on "Save Changes" without changing anything ;-)
08:58 andreashm   joubu: ok, thanks. so not much actual work done yet then? =)
08:58 magnuse     andreashm: very good, thanks :-)
08:58 Joubu       To build packages, yes
08:54 andreashm   the discussion about using swagger2 and mojolicous?
08:53 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add base for building RESTful API
08:53 andreashm   bug 13799?
08:53 Joubu       andreashm: there is discussion on the bug report
08:51 * nlegrand  o/ magnuse
08:45 andreashm   anyone know how it goes with the REST API for Koha?
08:44 andreashm   magnuse: have a good weekend?
08:42 magnuse     :-)
08:42 andreashm   hallojski magnuse!
08:41 magnuse     tjänare andreashm
08:35 cait        hi drojf :)
08:34 magnuse     sure is
08:33 drojf       hi cait and magnuse :)
08:33 drojf       that's one handy link :)
08:30 magnuse     _p_col_count%3D15%26facet_queries%3D%26search_item_no%3D0%26sort_advice%3Dfield%253DRelevance%2526direction%253DDescending%26search_item_id%3D3%26agency_name%3DASE514811%26search_type%3Dsolr%26search_query%3DMoral%2Boch%2Bk%25C3%25A4rlek%2Balberoni&facet_queries=&search_item_no=0&sort_advice=field%3DRelevance%26direction%3DDescending&search_type=solr&search_query=Moral+och+k%C3%A4rlek+alberoni&arena_member_id=13602890&search_item_id=3&agency_name=ASE514811
08:30 magnuse     um, permalinks to detail view in the opac should probably not look like this: /web/arena/results?p_p_state=normal&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_action=1&p_p_id=crDetailWicket_WAR_arenaportlets&p_p_col_count=15&p_p_col_id=column-2&p_p_col_pos=2&p_p_mode=view&back_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbibliotek.molndal.se%2Fweb%2Farena%2Fresults%3Fp_p_id%3DcrDetailWicket_WAR_arenaportlets%26p_p_lifecycle%3D1%26p_p_state%3Dnormal%26p_p_mode%3Dview%26p_p_col_id%3Dcolumn-2%26p_p_col_pos%3D2%26p
08:23 * cait      waves
08:23 magnuse     hiya ashimema cait nlegrand
08:13 nlegrand    hey #koha!
08:05 cait        hi mveron :)
08:05 mveron      hi cait :-)
08:02 cait        hi #koha
08:00 ashimema    morning #koha
07:47 mveron      Good night mtompset :-)
07:41 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha mveron gaetan_B drojf alex_a reiveune magnuse
07:40 mtompset    Well, it's nearly 4am here (3:40am). I should sleep. :)
07:38 mtompset    Tested in Debian 8 and 7u1. :)
07:37 mveron      OK
07:37 mtompset    It's fixed now. Go ahead. :)
07:37 mveron      mtompset: Should I wait before testing?
07:36 mtompset    Oops... need to fix commentary. :)
07:35 mtompset    mveron: There we go. Nice evil hack using a parse of perldoc. ;)
07:28 gaetan_B    hello
07:08 drojf       hi mveron :)
07:07 mveron      Hi drojf :-)
07:07 drojf       morning #koha
06:59 wahanui     bonjour, alex_a
06:59 alex_a      bonjour
06:41 wahanui     bonjour, reiveune
06:41 reiveune    hello
06:33 magnuse     khall++ for http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_SIP2_Server_Capabilities
06:32 magnuse     http://allperlbooks.com/ should perhaps be using koha? ;-)
06:30 huginn`     mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 12.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
06:30 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
06:23 magnuse     looks an awful lot like snow, though
06:23 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 2.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on April 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
06:23 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:20 magnuse     hiya mtompset and mveron
06:20 mtompset    Greetings, magnuse
06:20 * magnuse   waves
06:18 mtompset    ARG!
06:18 mtompset    Readonly 1.03 vs. 2.00
06:17 mveron      Hi magnuse
06:17 mveron      back
06:14 mveron      brb
06:11 mveron      Great :-)
06:11 mtompset    I have duplicated your problem in 7u1.
06:11 mtompset    AH HA!
06:10 mveron      Yes for the latest upload. But I will verify again
06:09 mtompset    (with the fixed !$@ issue)
06:09 mtompset    And you tried my latest upload?
06:08 mtompset    Right... where is your dpkg?
06:07 mveron      That's what I did (see my  first comment), and I get 1.04-2+b3
06:05 mtompset    But that doesn't say where.
06:05 mtompset    dpkg -l libreadonly-xs-perl
06:05 mveron      Maybe something is wrong with my installation? How can I verify on command line that Readonly::XS is properly installed?
06:04 mtompset    Let me attempt an earlier version
06:04 mtompset    Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 (2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:03 mveron      Linux koha2 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:03 mtompset    strange.
06:03 mveron      Yes
06:03 mtompset    Are you running on a debian machine?
06:02 mveron      mtopmset: I get "Not installed" if the patch is applied.  Without patch, it tells that it is istalled.
06:01 mtompset    mveron: Are you telling me that your Readonly::XS does not appear 'not installed' when you run the about page for Perl Modules?!
05:57 mtompset    Greetings, indradg misilot :)
05:57 mtompset    I just realized that !$@ looks like I'm swearing. :)
05:53 mtompset    Silly me !$@.... I should have just put it all in the eval block. :)
05:53 mtompset    try that new version.
05:51 mveron      Oh, 'no warnings' at top of this function ....
05:46 mtompset    OH! my eval is possibly wrong.
05:44 mtompset    die Dumper($@); :)
05:44 mtompset    That's weird, so the eval "require Readonly" is failing?!
05:43 mveron      It seems that I do not get in this part. I issue a warning inside the same if statement but do not get anything
05:41 mveron      One moment...
05:41 mtompset    Does it even die?
05:41 mtompset    mveron: Does the die show that it is parsing the dpkg correctly?
05:35 mtompset    Hmm... your version is less than my 1.05-1+b1 (or whatever it is)
05:34 mtompset    perhaps you could die (\@data) around line 102 with the patch.
05:34 mtompset    Good thing I left Data::Dumper in accidentally. :)
05:32 mveron      It says so without patch...
05:32 mtompset    WEird... do you have Readonly installed?
05:31 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13767 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Readonly::XS (1:02) is not installed
05:31 mveron      mtompset: See comment on bug 13767 - it says "Not installed" (with patch)
05:20 mtompset    plack doesn't like $_ as far as I can tell. :)
05:20 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14001 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Inventory is not plack friendly
05:20 mtompset    And while we're playing with inventory... bug 14001 is a tiny improvement toward making inventory plack friendlier. I was testing on the kohadev box provided at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
05:17 mtompset    Though, I do suspect they want something more client side. :)
05:17 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam
05:17 mtompset    And if you have a web cam attached to your koha server, perhaps bug 6815? ;)
05:16 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13767 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Readonly::XS (1:02) is not installed
05:16 mtompset    how about bug 13767? :)
05:15 mveron      Why not? - A sign-off a day keeps Koha on the way...
05:15 mtompset    Would you like an easy sign off or two? :)
05:14 mtompset    Greetings, mveron.
05:14 mveron      Hi mtompset :-)
05:08 huginn`     mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 11.0°C (7:00 AM CEST on April 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
05:08 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
05:08 mveron      Good daytime #koha
04:26 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
03:18 dcook       Quiet today