Time  Nick          Message
02:44 eythian       wahanui: we don't need no water
02:44 wahanui       Are you CRAZY?  The roof is ON FIRE!
02:51 eythian       @later tell tcohen no, I have a better plan than that.
02:51 huginn`       eythian: The operation succeeded.
02:52 * wizzyrea    is impressed that wahanui doesn't respond with "let the MFer Burn"
03:41 rangi         http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2015p305812
03:41 rangi         friday fun
04:27 Oak           tch tch rangi. should not say that. pray for safety of everyone.
04:43 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
05:02 mtompset      Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
05:49 * magnuse     waves
06:06 magnuse       kia ora cait!
06:10 magnuse       eythian++ for
06:29 cait          hi magnuse
06:36 reiveune      hello
06:40 Oak           eythian++
06:40 Oak           magnuse
06:40 Oak           Guten morgen cait
06:43 magnuse       Oak
06:43 Oak           :)
06:44 cait          :)
06:44 cait          have to go - bbl
06:48 KotH          good morning
06:48 KotH          is there a way to dublicate a marc record?
06:49 * KotH        has been looking but couldnt find anything
06:50 magnuse       KotH: when you are on the "normal" detail view in the staff client, you can do...
06:50 magnuse       Edit > Edit as new (duplicate)
06:51 alex_a        bonjour
06:51 magnuse       bonjour sophie_m et alex_a
06:51 KotH          *facepalm*
06:51 magnuse       :-)
06:51 KotH          i've been looking at that drop down box 10 times at least
06:51 KotH          must be blind, or tired, or both
06:51 magnuse       hidden in plain view :-)
06:51 KotH          thanks, magnuse!
06:52 sophie_m      hi magnuse, hi #koha
06:54 magnuse       @wunder marseille
06:54 huginn`       magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 10.8°C (8:37 AM CEST on April 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
06:54 magnuse       @wunder boo
06:54 huginn`       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 24, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
06:54 magnuse       ice on the car this morning, snow showers yesterday
06:55 KotH          sounds like perfectly fine summer weather
06:57 KotH          just for the record: i really love koha and its simplicity to manage my own library!
06:57 KotH          best tool i found
07:01 magnuse       KotH: good to hear that :-)
07:02 KotH          :-)
07:02 KotH          i actually was surprised how simple koha is to use, given the fact that it was made for libraries and not for home users like me
07:02 KotH          the only thing i still didnt get used to are the marc records
07:02 magnuse       hehe, yeah that is the really weird part
07:03 magnuse       my motto: MARC must die!
07:03 KotH          heh
07:03 KotH          i doubt it will
07:03 KotH          at least not soon
07:05 KotH          btw: is there any layman understandable introduction to marc?
07:10 magnuse       dunno, maybe this? http://www.loc.gov/marc/umb/
07:10 * magnuse     learned about marc in library school
07:10 * KotH        never went to library school
07:10 KotH          i've seen that site, but when i tried to read it, it didnt make much sense
07:11 KotH          maybe i should try again
07:14 magnuse       maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARC_standards for a really short intro?
07:20 eythian       @wunder nzwn
07:20 huginn`       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on April 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
07:27 jajm          hi all
07:29 magnuse       kia ora eythian paul_p jajm
07:29 jajm          eythian, about the mojolicious package... won't it be acceptable to debian.koha-community.org ?
07:29 * cait        waves
07:29 jajm          hello magnuse cait
07:30 cait          jajm: it's friday beer o clock in nz - i think maybe try a little earlier monday maybe
07:30 cait          hm or tuesday, i think there is aholiday in nz on monday
07:32 jajm          oh.. ok cait, thanks
07:34 gaetan_B      hello
07:34 cdickinson    Monday is Anzac Day observed
07:47 drojf         morning #koha
08:04 magnuse       moin drojf
08:33 cait          morning drojf :)
08:33 cait          Joubu++
09:06 nlegrand      Hey #koha.
11:42 Viktor        Greetings!
11:42 wahanui       and beatings!
11:51 cait          hi Viktor :)
11:55 Viktor        Hi cait!
12:34 tcohen        morning
12:36 cait          morning tcohen :)
12:36 tcohen        morning cait
12:36 tcohen        @later tell eythian saw it
12:36 huginn`       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:41 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
12:42 gerundio      hey mtompset
12:42 wahanui       rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
12:42 mtompset      Has anyone ever encountered a hash problem like: $key = 'bar'; if ($row->{$key} ne $row->{'bar'}) { print "what is going on?!"; }
12:43 mtompset      Greetings gerundio. :)
12:44 gerundio      mtompset, is everything ok with bug 14036 now? (I'm Rolando Isidoro)
12:44 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail
12:45 mtompset      Not quite.
12:45 mtompset      You didn't sign off properly.
12:46 mtompset      Just like you didn't attach the patch correctly in the first place.
12:46 mtompset      Do you have a git installation?
12:46 gerundio      I performed a git checkout yes
12:47 mtompset      Do you have git-bz installed?
12:47 gerundio      nope
12:47 mtompset      Okay, there is part of your problem.
12:48 mtompset      Do you have a git so alias?
12:48 gerundio      I talked to cait about the patch submission yesterday
12:48 gerundio      I pushed the commit to the master branch
12:49 gerundio      extracted a patch using git diff and attached it to one of my comments
12:49 mtompset      You are doing it the "wrong" way.
12:49 gerundio      I'm sure I am :D
12:49 mtompset      Use git bz. It makes life much simpler.
12:49 mtompset      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
12:50 tcohen        mtompset: maybe you should take the quotes out
12:50 mtompset      tcohen: I was being safe, in case I was wrong. :P
12:53 cait          gerundio: you can also generate a patch file using: git format-patch HEAD^
12:53 cait          it has all the information git bz has too
12:54 cait          but it's less convenient if you do it more often :)
12:54 cait          way less
12:54 gerundio      it's been a year (or more) since my last contribution to koha's git repository
12:54 gerundio      I don't think I do it that often
12:55 mtompset      So, gerundio, I was expecting.... git bz apply 14036\n ... testing ... git so 2\n git bz attach -e 14036 HEAD^^..HEAD
12:56 * chris_n     wonders how we got along before git bz... :-P
12:56 mtompset      I'm pretty sure git format-patch and git am's. :)
12:57 cait          gerundio: or wget patch file... git am -iu3 patcfile ... testing ... git commit --amend -s ... git format-patch HEAD^ ... upload via gui
12:58 cait          chris_n: it worked... but git-bz probably saved ym life witht he many 6+ patches bugs that end up in the qa queue
13:05 mtompset      I hate large number of commits for a patch, but sometimes smaller means easier step by step sign offs.
13:07 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14030: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=856861b47ee7e0658f790391fbf22af38e48616b> / Bug 14030 - Added tests for duplicates. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c066a8ca2f648b9c823dedf9afad01dea1a4b6b1> / Bug 14030: Add Georgian language and fix Kannada language code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a91dad2b031
13:07 mtompset      tcohen: have you ever encountered a hash problem like: $key = 'bar'; if ($row->{$key} ne $row->{'bar'}) { print "what is going on?!"; }
13:08 tcohen        no
13:08 magnuse       mtompset: works for me
13:08 tcohen        i did some experiments a couple minutes back
13:08 tcohen        and it works for me
13:09 tcohen        you should stop using perl on window$
13:09 mtompset      So you have it print something?!
13:09 tcohen        :-P
13:09 tcohen        id doesn't print, because they are eq
13:10 mtompset      Because I'm trying to make sense of this kind of problem with the inventory.
13:10 mtompset      I looked at my output and the original output....
13:10 mtompset      and thought, "Why does withdrawn say 0?!"
13:10 mtompset      It should say text.
13:11 mtompset      And for some strange reason, I'm getting the equivalent of printing.
13:12 mtompset      because for some reason $row->{$key} is handing the value of the first key in the hash.
13:12 mtompset      which because of randomness, may or may not be the proper key.
13:15 tcohen        so it is broken by design
13:15 tcohen        because you sould always know your key :-D
13:16 tcohen        whne is the next general meeting held?
13:16 mtompset      tcohen: That's the annoying part. I do know the key.
13:17 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14030: (RM followup) fix copypasta blooper <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6495a57af6a804b6a59a6f5fce120bdc1a8e5775> / Bug 13992: Software error in reports if field or table does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4177d3ecd3d5c6620b5bcc09d69c17d2c79997ff>
13:24 gerundio      I can't connect to koha's git repository using port 9418
13:24 gerundio      when I try to clone git-bz I get this error message: "fatal: http://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?"
13:24 cait          how did your git clone look like?
13:24 gerundio      that messages occurs when I try to clone using http
13:24 cait          did you use http://  or git://
13:24 cait          i think we only allow git://
13:25 gerundio      git clone http://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git
13:25 cait          replace http:// with git://
13:25 gerundio      getting koha using git?
13:25 gerundio      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Getting_Koha_using_Git
13:25 gerundio      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Cloning_over_HTTP
13:25 cait          just try it? ;)
13:25 gerundio      I was able to clone koha.git via http
13:26 cait          git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone
13:26 cait          see here it's there too
13:26 cait          git://
13:26 gerundio      but cloning git-bz is throwing that error
13:26 gerundio      shouldn't it be possible to?
13:26 mtompset      You should try git first.
13:27 cait          did you try git clone git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git git-bz
13:27 gerundio      cait, mtompset yes
13:27 cait          what's the error?
13:27 gerundio      our firewall is blocking connections to port 9418
13:27 cait          hm
13:28 cait          not sure how to get it then to be honest - not sure we mirror git bz to github
13:28 gerundio      I can't telnet git.koha-community.org 9418
13:28 cait          or another repo
13:28 * Oak         waves
13:28 gerundio      the weird thing is I got the koha.git repo just fine via http
13:29 mtj_          https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
13:29 gerundio      does the git-bz.git repo have different setting?
13:29 mtj_          hi all
13:29 mtj_          gerundio:  try that? ^
13:30 mtj_          ah, oops sorry, your'e after git-bz
13:31 mtj_          hmm, github version is a bit old :/
13:31 mtj_          its not mirrored properly
13:33 mtj_          i really need to head to bed :0)
13:35 mtompset      Not sure, gerundio.
13:38 * magnuse     wanders off to make pizza - have fun #koha!
13:57 mtompset      Ah ha! Found the annoying inventory bug.
14:12 nengard       mtompset just one?
14:12 nengard       there are a few
14:12 mtompset      nengard: The one I was hunting.
14:12 mtompset      withdrawn = 0
14:12 mtompset      Why display 0?!
14:12 nengard       LOL
14:13 mtompset      bug 14061 if you care to sign off. ;)
14:13 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14061 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Inventory fails to map withdrawn authorized values
14:14 cait          tcohen: do we have working packages now?
14:14 cait          and is the fix in git?
14:15 mtompset      That's what Robin said in the email. I would assume do. :)
14:15 mtompset      ^do^so^
14:15 cait          hm but doesn't look like it's in git
14:16 cait          mtompset: we build our own... i need to know how to fix it
14:16 mtompset      cait: I'll be having the same problem shortly. Let me know when you figure that out. :)
14:20 tcohen        cait: not yet, busy right now
14:21 mtompset      nengard: Do you still see 0 in withdrawn?!
14:21 nengard       yes
14:21 nengard       attached an image
14:21 nengard       just now
14:21 nengard       i cleared cache too
14:21 mtompset      Did you check your authorised_values?
14:22 mtompset      perhaps it put 0 in the description?
14:22 nengard       nope
14:22 nengard       all i have is value =1 and description = withdrawn
14:22 nengard       it's a clean db
14:25 mtompset      If you add 0 to the WITHDRAWN authorized value as blank, it will be correct. If it doesn't have a mapping, it doesn't map it.
14:25 mtompset      Or even "This was zero" as the description.
14:29 nengard       mtompset but there isn't a 0 in the default koha db install - so people will always see 0 ... that said i'll go ahead an add it and see
14:29 mtompset      thanks, perhaps there should be a 0 added to the default as well then.
14:29 mtompset      because 0 and 1 are values that will occur normally.
14:30 nengard       it didn't work ...
14:30 nengard       i added a 0 authorized value with a blank description and I still see 0 ... hmmm
14:30 mtompset      screen shot of your authorized values for WITHDRAWN would be helpful.
14:33 nengard       done :)
14:34 mtompset      That's what I would expect to generate blank.
14:34 nengard       i promise it's not :( i can try again
14:35 mtompset      I believe you. Code doesn't always run the same for everyone.
14:36 mtompset      Okay... try the negative test... look for withdrawn books.
14:36 mtompset      before patch 1, after patch Withdrawn.
14:43 nengard       mtompset okay new image attached - both before and after the patch I see 1 instead of 'withdrawn'
14:43 nengard       I did a fresh pull before applying your patch and the patch applied cleanly
14:43 nengard       sorry :(
14:44 nengard       maybe we need another tester to see if it's just my system, but I did a fresh install of my system at the hackfest because my old test was so full of crap :)
14:44 nengard       so it's relatively new
14:44 mtompset      No... I have one more idea. :)
14:44 mtompset      New patch coming... there is another place. :)
14:45 mtompset      If this fails... I'm comfused. :)
14:45 mtompset      confused, even. :)
14:47 nengard       LOL
14:48 mtompset      I very much appreciate your testing, even if it ends up not working for you.
14:48 nengard       got another question while mtompset works on that - anyone know what permission you need to be able to edit serial frequencies? I have a user with all serial permissions who can't do the editing  - was there a bug about this?
14:51 mtompset      nengard: Are you running on plack or something like that?
14:52 nengard       nope
14:52 nengard       out of the box install - nothing fancy
14:52 * mtompset    shrugs.
14:52 mtompset      Try again, one last time. :)
14:52 mtompset      New patch is up.
14:53 mtompset      If your withdrawn mapped to something other than 952$0?
14:55 nengard       will check the mapping and then apply the patch
14:56 nengard       :(
14:56 nengard       don't want to share my results
14:58 mtompset      Sorry to hear.
15:01 mtompset      Okay... I'm going to fresh install from scratch and test... because this is weird.
15:09 nengard       anyone know what permission you need to be able to edit serial frequencies? I have a user with all serial permissions who can't do the editing  - was there a bug about this?
15:15 oliver_       hi
15:15 cait          koha version?
15:15 cait          version number?
15:15 wahanui       version number is set to 3.03.032
15:15 cait          hmm
15:15 cait          hi oliver_
15:16 cait          nengard: which version?
15:16 wahanui       i heard which version was recommended?
15:16 cait          nengard: some early version after the new serials it was admin - should be changed now to serials
15:16 cait          nengard: do we have a text explaining the version number? thoughtthere was something on the website but can't find it
15:17 mtompset      nengard: What OS? Debian?
15:17 oliver_       I have a question regarding required fields in MARC frameworks that have an authorized value constraint: why is always the first value selected, despite an empty default value? can this be fixed?
15:18 oliver_       specifically: 952c
15:18 oliver_       so this is about items, not the record
15:19 mtompset      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
15:19 mtompset      Sorry, wasn't pay attention to the question. :)
15:19 oliver_       :-)
15:21 nengard       sorry was on the phone
15:21 nengard       cait 3.16.10 i think
15:21 cait          oliver_: hm, i thin it selects the alphabetically first
15:21 oliver_       IMHO, defining mandatory field *and* preselecting an undefined default is not a good idea as a wrong value will get saved
15:21 cait          and offers no empty option for mandatory, is that possible?
15:21 nengard       mtompset yes debian
15:21 mtompset      squeeze, wheezy, jessie?
15:21 nengard       um ... hehe
15:22 nengard       wait -mine for your bug or the serial permission issue?
15:22 nengard       mine is wheezy
15:22 cait          nengard: which koha version?
15:22 wahanui       which koha version is that?
15:22 cait          i think mtompset is on the wrong path :)
15:22 mtompset      separate thread, yes.
15:22 Joubu         what cait said, confirmed
15:22 nengard       cait the serial permission issue is
15:22 nengard       mtompset mine is on master
15:23 Joubu         the empty entry is only displayed if the field is not mandatory
15:23 mtompset      so master, debian, wheezy... got it...
15:23 cait          nengard: try giving admin perm... if it works ... that's it
15:23 cait          bug 11226
15:23 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11226 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Working with serials now requires admin (parameters) permission
15:23 nengard       yes, superlibrairna permission works - but we don't want to give htis person that permission
15:23 nengard       okay
15:24 oliver_       cait: yes, it selects the first value but that is bad when the field is mandatory. the whole point of a mandatory field is to enfore an explicit choice
15:24 nengard       thanks - i'll share that bug
15:24 cait          hm it's supposed to be fixed with 3.16.2
15:24 cait          full serial permissions... ohoh
15:25 cait          nengard: doyou really have all all checkboxes checked there? for serials?
15:25 cait          even superserials and the like?
15:25 nengard       cait - checking - that's what they told me
15:25 oliver_       cait: granted, the field has a red label for new items but hitting save will store the preselected/first authorized value which is most likely wrong
15:26 cait          oliver_: i agree, it's not a very good behaviour
15:26 cait          it would be good to have it reported
15:27 oliver_       cait: I'd consider this a bug if there isn't a setting to change that behavior.
15:27 oliver_       cait: ok, I couldn't think of me being the first ever stumbling such a central thing
15:28 gerundio      mtompset, I'm trying to sign off your tests patch from bug 14036
15:28 nengard       so cait, all boxes are checked, but no the serial box - so i'm telling her to make that change and try again
15:28 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail
15:28 Joubu         191 push @authorised_values, "" unless ( $subfieldlib->{mandatory} );
15:28 gerundio      running prove t/db_dependent/Serials/GetNextDate.t before applying your patch works as expected
15:29 gerundio      after applying your patch I get a "Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00)
15:29 gerundio      Failed 88/88 subtests " error message
15:29 gerundio      I'm not sure this is the "bomb horribly" you mention
15:30 mtompset      ?
15:30 gerundio      after applying the other patch the result is the same
15:31 * mtompset    sighs.
15:31 mtompset      Okay... I've scrolled back and read.
15:31 gerundio      given the dependency on bug 13109 I also tried running the tests after applying the patch for that bug too
15:31 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13109 major, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Serial failure for received and general viewing
15:32 mtompset      1) Did you 'git pull' to make sure your master you were up to do?
15:32 gerundio      yes
15:32 mtompset      2) What steps did you use after you were sure you were current?
15:32 cait          nengard_phone: that could be it
15:33 Joubu         oliver_: the behavior exists since the "beginning" (2006), if you have good arguments, you can open a new bug report. It will be very easy to submit a fix.
15:33 cait          nengard_phone: just in case...tell them to log out and back in
15:33 Joubu         have to go, have a good w-e #koha
15:33 nengard_phone will do ciat
15:33 cait          you too Joubu
15:33 mtompset      Bye, Joubu
15:33 gerundio      mtompset, I followed the instructions in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
15:33 gerundio      manually
15:33 mtompset      gerundio: I want you to tell me everything you typed.
15:34 gerundio      downloaded 3 patches
15:34 mtompset      Because that is a bunch of instructions that I don't know that you did correctly.
15:34 oliver_       Joubu: ok, that's interesting. will do
15:34 gerundio      1 from bug 13109 and 2 from bug 14036
15:34 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail
15:34 gerundio      created a new branch for testing purposes
15:34 mtompset      Okay, manually downloaded patches.
15:34 mtompset      created new branch
15:35 mtompset      git am'd them all 13109 first?
15:35 gerundio      applyed patch from the 13109
15:35 gerundio      them attachment 38467
15:35 huginn`       03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=38467&action=edit patch, Bug 14036 - GetNextDate.t lacking test cases., Bug-14036---GetNextDatet-lacking-test-cases.patch
15:36 gerundio      ran tests which failed with the message I mentioned above
15:36 gerundio      applied patch 38468 and ran tests again
15:36 gerundio      still fail with the same message
15:36 oliver_       I have another, more general question: what's the purpose of specifying the classification source? purely informational or does that influence some functionality? related: what does the "Classification filing rule Sorting routine" "generic" do?
15:37 mtompset      Seriously?!
15:37 mtompset      paste?
15:37 wahanui       paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
15:38 mtompset      Could you please paste a git diff origin/master there?
15:38 oliver_       background: we use a combination of MCS/PACS and I created a custom source and filing rule (based on generic) for it - I just wonder what the actual effect might be :-)
15:39 oliver_       ... since you can't really customize anything
15:39 cait          oliver_: it affects how the sort form of your callnumber is generated
15:40 cait          it hink if you use something custom you made a good first step by defining your own based on z - that's what we do too
15:40 cait          there are specific scripts for ddc and loc
15:40 oliver_       cait: that's what I thought. so what's the meaning of "generic" in that case? full call number sorted alphanum?
15:40 cait          if you have saved a few items, check for the items.cn_sort column
15:41 cait          it will have the 'sortable' generated form
15:41 cait          i think alphanum yes
15:41 cait          but I haven't done a lot of testing there
15:41 mtompset      gerundio: Could you paste a git diff origin/master at http://paste.koha-community.org?
15:41 oliver_       cait: yep, noticed that field already. ok, will do
15:41 cait          you could write your own sorting algorithm by writing a script and then changing the sorting rule in the config
15:41 oliver_       cait: where is this sorting applied? mainly for the shelf browser?
15:42 oliver_       cait: I see, a guess how to get that script into the list of available sorting routines is different question :-)
15:43 pastebot      "gerundio" at pasted "Bug 14036 sign off patches" (176 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63
15:43 gerundio      mtompset, I pasted the full procedure
15:43 gerundio      the git diff is at the end
15:49 cait          oliver_: i think you can also use it in reports
15:49 mtompset      As far as I can tell, this is an unrelated bug.
15:49 cait          oliver_: might be enough to save the file in the right place :)
15:50 mtompset      line 2468 in C4/Serials does not reference the publisheddate.
15:50 mtompset      The if condition attempted to compare and increment things.
15:51 mtompset      make sure your issuesperunit value is set for your subscription.
15:52 mtompset      Don't ask me how, because that I do not know.
15:52 mtompset      But your subscription data is probably not filled out fully.
15:52 oliver_       cait: ok, now to my final question for today: is it possible to add a tag (and its subfields!) to a MARC framework as it already exists, say, in the default framework without basing the new framework on the default one (then deleting 90% of the unneeded tags)
15:53 oliver_       example: what's the easiest way to add 520 (summary) and all its subfields to the "fast add" framework?
15:54 cait          oliver_: try using the export options - to tods
15:54 cait          ods for example
15:54 cait          that#s the easisest way for batch edits
15:54 cait          you will still want to base it on default... but hide fields you don't want to use maybe
15:55 cait          there are a lot of things marc21 is unhappy without that you shoudl be careful wit - or also koha, like the 999 and 942/52 fields
15:56 oliver_       cait: hm, sounds cumbersome. I would have expected a feature that allows you to pick single tags from the default framework "pool". would make things much easier
15:56 gaetan_B      bye
15:56 oliver_       cait: exactly that's the reason why any manual interaction (copy/paste via ods) should be avoided IMHO
15:56 cait          oliver_: be aware that koha will delete everything that is not in your framework
15:57 oliver_       cait: delete from where?
15:57 wahanui       delete from is probably slower, but works on all versions of MySQL/MariaDB.
15:57 cait          so if you download a record, and forgot to add a field or subfield, on saving they will be deleted
15:57 oliver_       cait: sure
15:57 cait          that's why it's more recommended to hide fields from the editor instead of deleting them
15:57 mtompset      gerundio: So, did you try fixing all your subscriptions? :)
15:59 oliver_       cait: ok, but sounds like a nightmare to create new slim framework based on the default one and then clicking through 90% of the tags in order to hide them (example: doctoral theses with just a handful of tags)
15:59 cait          that's why i recommended exproting and reimporting - it's the easisest way apart from sql update
15:59 cait          i have to leave - spanish class
15:59 oliver_       cait: will look into it.
15:59 cait          bye all :)
15:59 gerundio      mtompset, I'll get back to you asap
15:59 oliver_       cait: thanks, as always
16:00 cait          np
16:00 cait          sorry to run off
16:14 mtompset      ARG! Perhaps I didn't have current master.
16:42 gerundio      mtompset, was your last comment about our topic?
16:59 mtompset      gerundio: In part, but it doesn't affect anything. My tests run the same still even after update.
16:59 mtompset      Wow. This git clone is failing to happen.
17:03 gerundio      well, I'm off for the weekend
17:03 gerundio      I'll pick it up next Monday
17:03 gerundio      thanks for all the help
17:03 mtompset      Enjoy. Sorry you couldn't get the same results.
17:03 gerundio      have a nice weekend everyone
17:10 mtompset      Well, I guess I killed it. Can someone kick git.koha-community.org?
17:13 mtompset      Just 150ish away from finished the compressing. NOOOOOOOOO! Git clone why are you hanging on me like this?
17:14 mtompset      Who do I have to give money to upgrade git.koha-community.org so it doesn't do this? :)
17:16 reiveune      bye
18:07 mtompset      Greetings, druthb
18:07 druthb        hiyas.
18:07 mtompset      Did you see my facebook update?
18:07 mtompset      I'm very frustrated right now.
18:07 druthb        I did.  Well, if you'd stop breaking stuff...
18:07 mtompset      I can't do a full git clone.
18:08 mtompset      So, I just tried: git clone -b master --single-branch git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone
18:08 mtompset      AND still ...
18:08 nengard       hola
18:08 wahanui       what's up, nengard
18:09 mtompset      I'm hating the last 1%.
18:25 mtompset      Greetings, nengard. :)
18:26 nengard       :)
18:26 mtompset      with all this pain trying to do a regular git install, I can see why people want to gitify.
18:27 nengard       :)
18:27 nengard       I love my git install ...
18:27 nengard       but i didn't install it
18:27 nengard       hehe
18:28 mtompset      trying to do a git install from SCRATCH... just to confirm everything is truly default.
18:35 mtompset      Sucky. Even a router reboot didn't help. :(
18:49 * mtompset    grumbles about his virtualbox.
18:51 nengard       :(
19:21 mtompset      I think it was my virtualbox NAT failing me.
19:56 mtompset      Okay, git-bz cloned, qa-test-tools cloned, koha almost cloned.
19:56 mtompset      Progress... finally.
19:58 nengard       awesome mtompset
19:59 mtompset      I really should eat lunch. :)
20:03 mtompset      nengard: have you ever tried a sandbox?
20:05 nengard       not with your patch, but yes
20:07 cait          wnickc++
20:07 wnickc        cait: what did I do?
20:07 cait          thx for retesting relatives checkouts :)
20:08 wnickc        ah yes
20:08 wnickc        I was keeping my fingers crossed
20:10 cait          it sure has proven to be a bit of a difficult one
20:12 wnickc        yeah
20:15 nengard       wnickc got any more xslt patches to sign off on?? hehe
20:15 wnickc        nengard: I did go after those pretty hard :)
20:15 nengard       i loved it!!!
20:15 wnickc        I wanted 'em in
20:15 nengard       I want them all in 3.20
20:16 nengard       not sure they'll make it though
20:16 nengard       they're just template changes - so maybe
20:16 wnickc        oh, that reminds me, one needs a comment
20:17 wnickc        5 pushed so far is pretty good
20:17 wnickc        bug 13734
20:17 huginn`       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13734 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Failed QA , RDA: Display 33xs
20:18 wnickc        I was waiting to see if anyone else had thoughts on the separators, but I am happy with Winona's solution
20:20 cait          i asked drojf to take a look - he said the 2 missing are in fqa
20:20 nengard       I like it wnickc
20:21 cait          i think next we need to change the indexing
20:21 cait          especically pudate
20:21 cait          pubdate
20:21 nengard       YES
20:21 nengard       but the problem is that no one is updating old records
20:21 cait          and i have no idea how to solve the mappings... probably we can't - or we map the old to copyrightdate and the new to publicationyear
20:21 nengard       so we need 260 and 264
20:22 cait          unimarc uses the latter currently... and a lot of the displays look at both
20:22 nengard       oh - so that's good
20:22 cait          not all of them, but it's the best that came to my mind so far
20:22 nengard       i figured we needed to do the koha to marc mapping
20:22 cait          making it possible to map to mulitple fields is probably much harder to do
20:22 nengard       and wasn't sure what to map 264 to
20:22 cait          publicationyear might be an option
20:23 cait          some of the displays display whatever is filled... other look for marcflavour - but that would not be hard to change
20:25 wnickc        I always use the 008 for dates when running reports, consistent across AACR/RDA, and more often filled correctly
20:26 cait          makes sense
20:26 cait          it seems some libraries don#t have those tho - and we use the other fields for display in a lot of places
20:27 cait          bit messy overall
20:30 wnickc        I blame the standards for doubling up on info and moving things that don't need ot be moved
20:31 wnickc        librarians, we like to complicate things
20:31 nengard       yup!!
20:32 nengard       who thought we needed a new field for this info - it makes no sense
20:32 wnickc        but how will you know we are moving forward if the numbers don't change, 264 is 4 more than 260
20:32 wnickc        onward and upward!
20:37 nengard       :p
20:57 cait          heh
21:46 mtompset      ARG... 403 error on a fresh git install.
21:49 mtompset      Greetings, indradg.
21:49 mtompset      Any clues on what apache tweaks are necessary for a fresh git install?
21:49 mtompset      I'm getting a 403.
22:29 bag           @whoami
22:29 huginn`       bag: I don't recognize you.
22:32 bag           @whoami
22:32 wahanui       24601!
22:32 huginn`       bag: bag
22:32 bag           :D
23:04 tcohen        hi
23:04 tcohen        eythian: around?
23:18 tcohen        night #koha
23:21 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10423: Show date due with time if it's a hourly loan <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0b51eafddb2721de247b2f0dd3b9a33048db13d> / Bug 10971: Hide EAN search for MARC21 / template corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83a923e11a97f5328ce6b0715c4e86069c7861e0> / Bug 14055: remove symlink that breaks upgrades <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
23:23 tcohen        @later tell paul_p can anyone at biblibre check the SMTP server installed on the jenkins server? if you look at the output of failed test you will notice some misconfiguration on the SMTP server
23:23 huginn`       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
23:24 tcohen        @later tell paul_p for example: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/17/console
23:24 huginn`       tcohen: The operation succeeded.