Time Nick Message 00:57 wizzyrea you can blackhole the jquery libraries if you want to skip things that are inside that 00:57 dcook blackhole? 00:57 wizzyrea blackbox, I guess it's called 00:57 dcook blackbox? :p 00:57 wizzyrea the little eyeball in the firefox debugger 00:58 wizzyrea under the list of sources 00:58 wizzyrea "toggle blackbox for source" or something 00:58 dcook Lessee... 00:58 dcook I have a few other things to do, but I'll find that eyeball first 00:58 wizzyrea just means, basically "I don't care about what goes on inside this source" 00:58 dcook mmm, but I actually do care, as I think it might be the problem 00:58 dcook :/ 00:59 wizzyrea well that's a bug with jquery then :P 00:59 dcook Or with how we've used it :/ 00:59 dcook But then that should show up in the debugger even with the jquery source black boxed maybe.. 01:00 wizzyrea probably yes 01:00 dcook I'm certainly intrigued :) 01:00 wizzyrea it's pretty tedious to trace, and most of the bugs are probably in our stuff 01:01 dcook Probably 01:01 dcook This one is rather nasty.. 01:01 dcook eythian: I was able to reproduce it in Firefox today :p 01:01 wizzyrea seems unlikely that we'd use jquery in a way that would actually lead to an actual jquery bug (but not unheard of) 01:01 wizzyrea the delete thing? 01:01 dcook Just now in fact.. 01:01 dcook yeah 01:02 dcook Hmm, the inspector isn't working so hot in Firefox.. 01:03 dcook Although I'm sure I've used it before.. 01:04 dcook Does it not show HTML anymore? :S 01:04 * eythian still uses firebug 01:05 dcook I can see why :/ 01:05 wizzyrea I use the firefox inspector, it works just fine 01:05 dcook Hmm, it must just not like me 01:05 eythian in my case I just use it because I've always used it, no real reason. 01:05 wizzyrea very very occasionally, you need to close it and reopen it 01:05 eythian I ought to give the inspector a real go one day 01:05 dcook I'm just getting a big gray box where my HTML should be 01:05 wizzyrea and then it works 01:06 dcook Ah, you're a wiz wizzyrea 01:06 * dcook should really remember to turn it off and turn it back on again more often 01:06 wizzyrea unlucky :/ 01:06 wizzyrea that seems like a recent bug 01:06 dcook Oooo 01:06 dcook Autoprettify minified sources 01:06 dcook That's nice 01:07 dcook Although it also auto blackboxes minified sources :S 01:07 wizzyrea hm, that hasn't been my experience 01:08 dcook Maybe you changed that option? 01:09 wizzyrea highly unlikely 01:10 dcook Hmm not sure the debugger can process javascript on the page.. 01:10 dcook "/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl" doesn't go anywhere itself, so it can't load the page, which means I can't add breakpoints :( 01:11 dcook Although adding breakpoints doesn't seem to work in general.. 01:11 wizzyrea seriously, it works fine for me, you are just unlucky ;) 01:11 dcook haha 01:11 dcook I think I'm just unlucky too :) 01:11 wizzyrea also I'd clear the cache 01:11 wizzyrea and make sure that it's really broken. 01:12 dcook I probably just don't know how to use it 01:12 dcook I'm used to the Chrome and IE debuggers 01:12 wizzyrea however you'll be happy to know that I just confirmed your bug in firefox. 01:12 wizzyrea I clicked cancel, and it deleted my item 01:12 dcook I'd be happier if you knew how to fix it :p 01:12 dcook But yeah, it's nasty :/ 01:13 wizzyrea if I had to guess, it might be to do with the "return to results" thing 01:13 wizzyrea might try turning it off and see if the issue goes away 01:13 dcook return to results? 01:13 dcook Interesting 01:13 wahanui somebody said Interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 01:14 dcook I was wondering if it related to the _() function... but when I replace it with a "return confirm('Are you sure?');" that has the same behaviour 01:14 dcook Actually, I'm starting to dig the Firefox debugger now :p 01:15 * dcook is fickle 01:15 wizzyrea kek 01:15 wizzyrea but really, I've seen other bugs where the result browser was messing up JS because it changes the URL of the page. 01:15 dcook Yeah? 01:16 wizzyrea yep 01:16 wizzyrea ...I'm having trouble remembering what it was, but I do remember that it was the shelf browser that broke it 01:25 BobB good morning/afternoon 01:25 eythian hi BobB 01:25 * BobB waves across the ditch 01:25 wizzyrea BobB: are you feeling moist? 01:26 BobB it is SOOOO wet here 01:26 wizzyrea or, rather, how's the weather 01:26 BobB and blowing 01:26 BobB like summer in Wellington, I guess :) 01:26 wizzyrea ^.^ 01:26 wizzyrea that's more like spring really, but yes. :) 01:27 BobB dcook about? 01:27 wizzyrea 21kmh wind - keke 01:27 dcook BobB: sort of 01:28 dcook I saw some sunlight a few minutes ago, and now the rain has come once again.. 01:28 BobB your first East Coast Low, dcook? 01:29 BobB the last one like this was in 2007 01:29 dcook I guess? Honestly, I've personally been in worse storms here in Sydney 01:29 BobB hope you're dry and safe 01:29 dcook I guess I've just been lucky this time around 01:29 dcook Yep, dry and safe :) 01:29 BobB you must be in the right part of town 01:30 dcook Of course, I look like I'm more of a woodsman than a librarian at the moment with my current clothes :p 01:30 BobB we're fine here too, just need to keep dodging the falling trees 01:30 dcook Yeah, I'm a straight shot from work. Boss drove me home past two nights, and the morning commute has been quite nice. 01:30 BobB :) 01:30 dcook Fortunate thing about living where I do... no trees ;) 01:30 dcook And I've just been lucky to miss the torrential rain 01:30 dcook Had to go to the vet yesterday a couple times but fortunately it was during light rain and light traffic 01:31 dcook Maybe that's why the computers are acting up today. Need to balance out the universe for all my luck these past few days 01:32 dcook wizzyrea: Now cancel isn't deleting the item for me after a bit of playing with the code... 01:32 dcook I bet if I reset the code though it'll still work as expected and not be buggy.. 01:32 wizzyrea well goo di guess. 01:32 wizzyrea good* 01:32 dcook We'll see I guess 01:32 wizzyrea ok 01:32 wizzyrea so 01:32 wizzyrea if it's only occasional 01:32 dcook I've had too many weird moments over the past few days if things working/not working 01:32 dcook lol 01:33 dcook Yup 01:33 wizzyrea that really suggests the result browser to me 01:33 wizzyrea what happens if you go to edit an item that doesn't have a result browser on it 01:33 dcook git reset --hard HEAD and cleared the cache... now Delete isn't deleting on cancel 01:33 dcook This one does have the result browser in it still :S 01:33 dcook Wait... no it doesn't 01:33 dcook Hmm 01:33 dcook Why on earth did it have the result browser before.. 01:34 dcook Oh because I got to it through a search.. 01:34 wizzyrea example: cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=160 this 01:34 dcook I suspect you're a genius, wizzyrea 01:34 * dcook does some more testing 01:34 wizzyrea vs this /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=160&searchid=scs_1429666421864 01:34 dcook That's what I'm just about to do :) 01:34 dcook Yep. That looks like it's it. 01:34 wizzyrea \o/ 01:35 dcook All hail the great and powerful wizzyrea! 01:35 wizzyrea and it would have come in ~3.14 01:35 dcook wizzyrea++ 01:35 wizzyrea gosh. 01:37 wizzyrea I wish I could remember what it was that I was working on that led me to this problem originally... 01:38 wizzyrea but I thought there was a patch gah my mind is made of swiss cheese. 01:39 wizzyrea fyi fast way to an item editor that doesn't have the search result is to click edit items from the results 01:39 wizzyrea the browse results, I mean. 01:40 wizzyrea fast way to an item editor that doesn't have the browse results is to click edit items from the results 01:40 wizzyrea there we go 01:40 dcook I have no idea what you just said :) 01:41 wizzyrea if you want to get to an additem.pl that doesn't have a searchid in the url, you can click Edit items from the search results 01:41 dcook You know... I think there might be a Javascript error with "var allVisibleCookieKeys = Object.keys( $.cookie() );" ... although possibly just in IE so I'll ignore that for now.. 01:43 dcook Ah! I think I might have found it 01:44 dcook Bossman was thinking that there were competing handlers.. 01:44 dcook $('a[href*="biblionumber="]').click(function (ev) { 01:44 dcook That would do it 01:44 dcook Once again, I reiterate that wizzyrea is the best 01:44 wizzyrea :) 01:44 wizzyrea yay, happy to help 01:45 dcook If I were able to compose songs, I'd compose a song in honour of your bug fighting virtue! 01:45 wizzyrea heh, I wondered if it was because the url parameters were not what it was expecting 01:45 dcook But I'm not that creative and my throat's a bit sore at the moment anyway.. 01:45 wizzyrea but I didn't have the time/need to go actually looking 01:45 dcook Yeah, I probably shouldn't be looking at this right now 01:45 wizzyrea pf 01:45 dcook But... 01:46 dcook Yeees 01:46 dcook Commented out that handler and it works 01:46 dcook Now, why on earth was it ever there.. 01:47 dcook Another reason for folks to document their code... 01:47 dcook It's obvious what the code is doing... but not why it's doing it.. 01:47 dcook Although I can bet why.. 01:49 dcook Oh... oh wow... that's... oh wow 01:49 dcook Without that line, lots of things break... 01:50 dcook Well not lots of things 01:50 dcook Just *grumbles* 01:50 dcook This could've been done with less magic 01:51 wizzyrea hehe 01:52 dcook So many ways to do things :S 01:52 wizzyrea there's a bit of over magic around the local book covers as well. which is where I've been floundering about off and on the last day or so. 01:53 dcook Ah yeah. That sounds familiar. 01:54 wizzyrea http://paxpokemonleague.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/WhKAT.gif 01:54 wizzyrea like that 01:54 wahanui like that is hard to vote on. :) 01:54 dcook hehe 01:56 wizzyrea http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/115898405319/when-you-look-into-that-bug-kohails this is totes you right now 01:57 wizzyrea http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/99634421711/just-when-i-thought-this-bug-was-fixed < more like me 01:57 dcook hehe 01:57 dcook I think that's been more applicable for me in past situations 01:57 dcook Like the time when I found the problem in some Javascript was... either a comma or a "return true" in a bad place. 01:59 dcook Interesting... the bad Javascript might not even actually work the way it was intended to work 01:59 dcook So it might just be totally evil 02:01 dcook Or maybe just the Edit link because it has a #edititem at the end.. 02:05 dcook Ugh, writing magic to fix magic.. 02:05 dcook Me thinks this'll have to wait until next time.. 02:06 wizzyrea this may be a silly thing, but can you change the click handler to not expect the biblionumber at the end of the url? 02:06 wizzyrea ^ that may be daft. 02:07 dcook I wish :( 02:07 dcook It's essentially re-writing the URLs for all the other actions on the page 02:08 dcook I think the thing to do is probably handle the "searchid" server side 02:08 dcook Although now that I think about it... maybe you can't 02:08 dcook Because it gets the id from a cookie 02:08 dcook Although I guess you should still be able to get it at that point.. 02:08 * dcook isn't a fan of the result browsers 02:09 dcook But, that bit of JS doesn't work for the "Edit" link anyway, as it ends in "#edititem" 02:09 dcook So it appends "searchid=scs_1429666452994" after #edititem... so the browser processes neither instruction 02:09 dcook err value 02:11 wizzyrea ah, yeah 02:13 dcook Well, I'm super pleased that we found the cause! 02:13 dcook The fix can wait for now 02:13 * dcook has to go fix a few others things now 02:16 eythian "surname" => $usersurname, 02:16 eythian #possibly a law problem 02:16 eythian "branch" => $userbranch, 02:16 eythian what even is that comment doing there? 02:16 dcook O_o 02:17 wizzyrea it's a... wot. 02:17 dcook Cannot commute. 02:17 wizzyrea maybe someone was noting that keeping the surname would be illegal in some places? 02:18 eythian I have no idea. 02:18 eythian that comment is nearly 10 years old. 02:21 dcook :S 02:24 eythian so, if you have basic auth set up to authenticate people, then weird things happen if the user logs in but doesn't have a koha account. 02:24 eythian Especially under plack. 02:24 eythian They can end up logged in as another user. 02:25 * eythian adds some "should we actually log them in" logic. 02:25 * eythian wishes again that the auth system was pluggable. 02:38 dac eythian: Yikes, that sounds dicey 02:38 eythian yeah 02:38 dac With the OpenID Connect, I create an account for them if they don't already have one 02:38 eythian the basic auth doesn't, it just stores their userid and sets $loggedin=1; 02:39 dac Oh, is basic auth an actual thing we have? 02:39 eythian Mostly you end up with some sort of undefined user. But a couple of times I got a real person, under plack. 02:39 dcook Scary 02:39 dcook How does the basic auth even work? 02:39 dcook Also, I agree about it being pluggable.. 02:39 eythian dcook: yeah, you can put basic auth on apache and Koha ought to just work with it. 02:40 dcook Huh... I thought I saw that somewhere. Interesting 02:40 dcook Now let's see if I can return to the problem I was trying to solve hours ago :p 02:40 dcook Nothing like borrower records not saving but not producing useful errors.. 02:40 dcook On a remote system.. 02:41 * dcook dislikes SQLHelper.pm 02:42 eythian yep 02:42 dcook Oh, also super legacy system that has been upgraded over time 02:42 dcook With a enormous database 02:42 dcook an* 02:42 * dcook twitcheas 02:42 dcook twitches* 02:42 dcook See? I can't even type straight! 02:50 dcook Oh... I wonder... 02:51 dcook Damn. 03:00 mtj hmm koha list seems to be down? 03:00 mtj http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha 03:02 mtj koha list website, that is.... emails seem to be arriving still? 03:04 eythian http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2015/04/22/australians-recovering-their-fifteenth-once-lifetime-disaster <-- dcook 03:09 dcook Hehe pretty much 03:10 dcook Hmm, so the database schema appears to be the same, the code is the same, and the data is the same... 03:11 dcook Yet one generates errors and the other doesn't 03:11 dcook Anyone have ideas about: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect integer value: '' for column 'guarantorid' at row 1 ? 03:12 * dcook thinks it's google time 03:12 dcook Aha... might be a difference in the mysql version.. 03:15 wizzyrea or mariadb vs mysql 03:15 dcook 5.5.5 vs 5.5.33 03:15 dcook Both Maria 03:15 wizzyrea well there you go 03:17 dcook I'm going to blame SQLHelper for this anyway :p 03:18 dcook I wonder if DBIx::Class has any smart handling for that.. 03:18 dcook Although I don't know.. 03:18 bag I’m sure it’s found in there somewhere http://io9.com/the-most-incredible-cosplay-from-this-weekends-star-war-1699029622 03:19 bag or in here dcook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTF5Gh9EGT0 03:19 bag heh 03:21 dcook hehe 03:22 dcook That clip never gets old 03:22 dcook Ah, yes, "STRICT_TRANS_TABLES" strikes again 03:22 dcook I think this causes a few problems throughout Koha.. 03:46 eythian https://twitter.com/Creative_Order/status/590705656610586627/photo/1 <-- dcook 03:50 wizzyrea is that really real? 03:51 ibeardslee yep ... 03:51 wizzyrea liar. 03:51 eythian ibeardslee wouldn't lie 03:52 wizzyrea hrmph. 03:52 dcook hehe 03:52 dcook It's not even raining anymore that I can see :p 03:53 dcook Mind you, the area I'm in has probably been one of the least affected 04:01 bag HA great pic 04:01 dcook I should have that as my background every time it rains 04:14 bag at least you are not smelling the type of bombs my dog is droping underneath my desk right now dcook 04:14 bag I’d take a bunch of rain over that 04:23 wizzyrea ew smelly dogs. 04:33 irma hi all 04:33 wizzyrea hi irma, staying dry? 04:34 irma but my wet weather sailing gear is not far :-) 04:34 eythian may need it :) 04:34 irma it's been so noisy at night ... 04:35 irma no damage for us though so that is a relief. 04:36 irma About Koha and LTI (Learning Tools Interoperability) 04:37 irma does Catalyst apply this to Moodle or mahara? 04:37 eythian https://owncloud.org/blog/owncloud-server-8-1-will-not-support-windows-as-server-platform-natively/ <-- ibeardslee 04:38 irma we were asked if Koha offers LTI support 04:39 eythian I'm not sure, I haven't heard of it. 04:39 eythian I'd ask Kristina if she's managed to escape Australia 04:40 BobB I haven't seen her floating by? 04:40 ibeardslee eythian: who cares about windows? 04:40 irma eythian it is a statement here http://www.slideshare.net/SushilKarampuri/college-management-system-sushil 04:41 eythian She got trapped there for an extra day, so you may see her drifting easterly. 04:41 irma slide #3 04:42 eythian irma: hmm, I imagine it can be done. I just don't know what it'd entail :) 04:42 irma thanks eythian. 04:42 eythian I'm sure if you emailed Kristina, she'd know about it on the Mahara/Moodle side, we've done nothing koha-wise with it. 04:43 irma will do eythian ;-) 05:14 eythian anyone want the great honour of signing off bug 13932 for me? You know you want to! 05:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13932 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow a header to be considered trusted to provide the userid 05:31 cait good morning #koha 05:32 eythian hi cait 05:32 cait hi eythian 05:33 cait still at work? 05:33 eythian yeah, need to update a prod server, so waiting until ... about now, actually. 05:33 * dcook thinks eythian is always at work! 05:36 dcook Ah, ebooks 05:36 dcook "Place a hold"... on an ebook 05:36 dcook Which has actually already been returned on the system, so it's not like it needs to be physically processed... 05:44 eythian ebooks are weird. 05:44 eythian well, "loaning" ebooks is weird. 05:44 eythian ebooks themselves are fine 05:44 dcook Agreed 06:08 dcook So I like to think that while my hands are large... my fingers are rather pointed and precise 06:08 dcook Yet, laptop keyboards still manage to feel like tiny toys... 06:09 * dcook wonders how people do it with larger hands... 06:09 eythian I spend a couple of months travelling with one of the original eeePCs that are the size of a book. After returning home to my real laptop, it felt like I was typing on a giant table. 06:09 dcook hehe 06:10 dcook I found my 2010 eeepc to be rather comfortable actually 06:10 dcook Although I recall the book size ones were intimidating 06:10 eythian this was older than that 06:10 dcook Actually, I guess I did whole blog entries in Greece using only my thumbs on a S3 06:10 dcook But that was blogging not programming :S 06:10 eythian http://lnxg.ca/images/eeepc.jpg <-- it was one of these 06:10 dcook Yeah I knew two people with these 06:11 eythian it was just so I had something to use while travelling that had was light and had good battery. 06:11 dcook Neat little things 06:11 dcook That's why I bought an eeepc too 06:11 dcook Then ended up using it at uni over the years 06:11 eythian time to go 06:11 * eythian & 06:11 dcook Ran up Koha on a Debian VM on one oce 06:11 dcook laters 06:41 reiveune hello 06:45 dcook salut reiveune 06:45 reiveune salut dcook 06:49 fridolin hie there 06:56 drojf morning #koha 06:59 alex_a bonjour 07:04 dcook heya europeans :) 07:12 indradg good afternoon #koha 07:17 * magnuse waves from trondheim again - sitting next to paul_p for a few more hours 07:17 cait how is it? 07:18 cait and morning #koha 07:18 paul_p hello #koha 07:19 paul_p cait yesterday it was sunny. So sunny that we couldn't stay on our des, it was too hot (just sitted behind a large window) 07:19 paul_p today, it's cloudy. 07:19 paul_p so no "too much sun" problem ;-) 07:19 cait thx for the weather update ;) 07:19 cait and how is interest in Koha? 07:20 paul_p about the conference: we saw at least one person during each break. 07:20 paul_p no business signed, but during those conference, you don't expect to sign anything. Just just socialise, make ppl know you exist, ... 07:21 paul_p I made a sponsor talk yesterday just before lunch (15mn). Presented Open Source in 2 slides, BibLibre in 2 slides, then each product we support in 1 slide each (except for Koha, that had 2 ;-) ) 07:21 magnuse and it has been good in that regards, i think 07:21 magnuse and quite a lot of people saw that presentation 07:22 magnuse there were some other sponsors who presented at the end of the day, and very few people stayed for that 07:22 gaetan_B hello 07:22 wahanui hola, gaetan_B 07:26 cait hope you 2 have fun :) 07:29 dcook cait: Figured out that problem, if you didn't notice :) 07:29 magnuse oh we do! ;-) 07:29 dcook wizzyrea figured out that it was just with the result browser, then I found the snippet of javascript causing the problems.. 07:32 dcook All right. Outta here. Night all :) 07:44 mveron Hi #koha 07:46 mveron The dashboard displays a runtime error: http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ (DBI connect) 07:48 Brooke o/ 07:57 mveron Ok, dashboard is back... 07:58 magnuse Brooke! 07:58 wahanui I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag. 08:07 Joubu magnuse: I have a problem with the nl-search script. It uses the last occurrence of C4::Members::Search, which uses the last occurrence of SQLHelper... 08:08 Joubu magnuse: when you search for a patron in the search box "Social security or card number", on which fields the search should be done? 08:10 magnuse Joubu: ooh, let me see if i can remember... 08:10 magnuse it should search on card number or a specific extended patron attribute 08:11 Joubu magnuse: ok I see, thanks 08:11 Joubu nothing is specified in the code 08:13 cait kill SQLHelper! 08:13 * magnuse does not want to stand in the way of killing sqlhelper 08:14 magnuse Joubu: i should have said that in a comment at least, i guess 08:16 Joubu magnuse: I have a patch, it seems to work on my side, but it would be good you check on yours. To be sure It won't break you nl stuffs :) 08:16 Joubu your 08:16 magnuse Joubu: i will definitely test that! :-) 08:22 magnuse thanks for the patch Joubu - i might not get to test it today, but it is very near the top of my todo list 08:23 Joubu thanks magnuse 08:23 cait oook.... i have created a new index with dom 08:23 cait and my value is searchable 08:23 cait but nt with the search index i defined 08:23 cait i have added it to Search.pm 08:23 cait anyone an idea? 08:24 cait oh 08:24 cait i think i know 08:25 cait wrong -dev directory 08:26 Joubu cait++ for the good catches! 08:27 cait :) 08:27 cait i was worrie thi smorning all my findings would turn out to be testing errors by me 08:27 cait got a little late 08:29 cait glad you could make sense of it 08:29 cait Joubu++ 08:55 magnuse oh it sure is reassuring that i can use 856$2 to specify that a resource is available on gopher 08:55 magnuse @marc 856 08:55 huginn` magnuse: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) 08:55 magnuse @more 08:55 huginn` magnuse: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] 08:55 magnuse @marc 856$2 08:55 huginn` magnuse: unknown tag 856$2 08:55 magnuse @marc 8562 08:55 huginn` magnuse: unknown tag 8562 08:55 magnuse @marc 856 2 08:55 huginn` magnuse: Access method The access method when the first indicator position contains value 7. 09:54 magnuse @marc 856 q 09:54 huginn` magnuse: Electronic format type An identification of the electronic format type, which is the data representation of the resource, such as text/HTML, ASCII, Postscript file, executable application, or JPEG image. Electronic format type may be taken from enumerated lists such as registered Internet Media Types (MIME types). 10:05 magnuse @later tell nengard looks like Show856uAsImage is not mentioned in the docs - is that by design? 10:05 huginn` magnuse: The operation succeeded. 10:29 cait Joubu: bug number vconfusion on 10866? 10:29 cait ah, you already saw, ignore me 11:38 khall cait: updated bug 1917 with a followup 11:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add RSS Feeds for Lists 12:14 cait khall: thx! 12:15 cait remember tomorrow is the deadline for enh 12:15 khall I'd really like to see this get in! 12:16 cait i think i can do the last test tonight 12:16 cait but there are still more in the queue to pick on 12:16 khall excellent! thanks cait! 12:16 khall Joubu: have you ever seen the browse by last name break for the ajax patron search? 12:16 khall I have a site where it works for some letters, but not others 12:17 khall it just sits at "Processing..." 12:17 cait but it's not c? 12:17 Joubu khall: the json is broken, something is not correctly escaped 12:17 Joubu khall: try http://jsonlint.com or similar to validate the json 12:18 khall I get no errors in the js console 12:18 cait i had a library reporting that the c didn't work in patron browser - turned out to be an adblocker picking it up 12:18 Joubu khall: no it's normal, no js error, but DT does not manage to parse it 12:18 Joubu the json 12:18 wahanui it has been said that the json is easy 12:18 khall thanks Joubu! 12:19 Joubu khall: actually I already found an issue, but it was a data encoding error 12:20 cait khall: do you think you can fix my complaint about the -d script too 12:20 cait ? 12:20 khall cait: bug number? 12:21 cait 11084 12:31 khall I'll see what I can do cait! 12:32 cait also... we won't get the qa queue empty... but maybe we can push it a little more until tomorrow? 12:33 khall sounds good! 12:53 cait i need help with that :) 13:04 Joubu It would be great to see 11759 PQA before tomorrow :) 13:04 Joubu bug 11759 13:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11759 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch checkout 13:05 cait :) 13:05 Joubu it would be a good ft for 3.20, a lot of people asked for it on the bug report 13:06 Joubu (that's a complete objective point of view) 13:06 Joubu completely 13:06 Joubu well, don't know it's what I wanted to say :) 13:07 khall cait: posted followup and reply to bug 11084 13:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Delete biblios on Leader 05 =d 13:08 tcohen ufff 13:08 tcohen good morning! 13:08 * tcohen had connnectivity issues so far 13:08 cait morning tcohen 13:09 cait khall: comment anwered .9 13:09 cait :) 13:09 khall cait: can do! 13:11 cait i am a librarian... i love documentation :) 13:12 khall cait: done! 13:12 tcohen i'm worried about tests failing on jenkins 13:12 * tcohen is starting to freak out 13:13 khall still failing? not good. Is there any way to get in there and run them interactively? 13:15 tcohen i can 13:17 khall maybe get in there and mess with the unit tests from jenkins then? get'em to work and make a patch? 13:17 nengard cat++ 13:17 nengard cait++ 13:17 gerundio hi guys, I'm working on a patch for bug 14036 13:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14036 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Date::Calc::Add_Delta_YM(): not a valid date" error when accessing subscription detail 13:17 nengard for the documentation comment :) hehe 13:18 gerundio I'm followed the instructions in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_and_Setup_Koha_to_use_Git_on_a_Development_Server#Install_and_Setup_Git to setup my development environment 13:18 nengard @later tell magnuse Show856uAsImage was in the manual .... off to check where it went to :) 13:18 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 13:18 gerundio I'm getting this message in the log: "OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.1805100 and Koha is 3.1900026" 13:19 gerundio I don't really want to update the DB as I want to keep using the version 3.1805100 which we're testing 13:19 Joubu tcohen: Which tests failed? 13:19 tcohen http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ 13:19 Joubu the isissuedtopatronsomethig,n?? 13:19 tcohen the same on all nodes 13:20 tcohen i'm extrancting the current DB 13:20 gerundio is it possible for me to switch to that git version branch and create the patch there? 13:22 nengard @later tell magnuse that's because it's not called 'show' it's called 'display' http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/#Display856uAsImage 13:22 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 13:24 cait [off] https://inm.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=33096 help? the link Leibniz-Institut... doesn't work - even after I removed the () and <> - any ideas? 13:33 nlegrand Hey #koha 13:34 nlegrand is it ok to open a bug and say in it we would like to sponsor someone for it and ask for quotation? 13:37 cait nlegrand: not sure how many read it then 13:37 cait maybe better to contact vendors directly or use the mailing list 13:37 cait and link to the bug in your email 13:41 nlegrand cait: well I was going to create the bug so I can cite it in the mailing list :) and I thought, "anyway, why not saying we would like to sponsor this directly here also" but I was just wondering if it was awkward or unconvenient :) 13:41 mveron nlegrand: There is a dropdown "Change sponsored?" on the bug detail page. You can set it to "Seeking developers". 13:41 cait hm it didn't happen often so far - but might be worht trying :) 13:41 cait yep 13:41 nlegrand ok ^^ 13:41 cait i'd leve your negotiations out, but looking for contacts seems ok 13:42 cait what do you want to get developed? 13:42 nlegrand i ask to write to an adress for negotiations 13:42 nlegrand cait: specific quotas for on-site checkouts 13:42 cait ah cool :) 14:03 cait nlegrand: i know something like that from other ILS - different 'checkout modes' 14:17 cait Joubu++ # fixingtests :) 14:18 cait nlegrand: did you find a fix for the collation problem with uppercase letters? 14:19 cait bug 13810 14:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13810 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Prevent updatedatabase.pl from breaking because of case insensitive utf8 collation 14:23 nlegrand cait: not really, right now, my fix is to comment the upgrade in updatedatabase.pl... 14:24 nlegrand cait: but since it does'n seems to affect so many fields, maybe the right way to do it would be to specify COLLATE utf8_bin for some fields ? 14:26 cait i don't know enough about those things really 14:26 nlegrand me neither :) 14:26 cait it changes all tables, so commenting it out might cause other problems 14:27 cait but we will get a massive problem there too 14:27 cait as we have been using upper case subfields for some migration data and even more in a new project that requires lots of item data 14:40 tcohen Joubu: http://snag.gy/a4TfX.jpg 14:41 Joubu yep, they should be moved 14:42 Joubu ReportsGuided.t and Reports/Guided.t should be merged also... 14:42 tcohen i think that was my fault 14:42 tcohen :-P 14:43 tcohen I guess they all sit there only because we didn't have the time to spend on mocking C4::Context->config 14:43 tcohen so, they are environment dependent, not db dependent 15:20 cait nlegrand: can you explain what you mean by quotas a bit? 15:20 cait just a checkbox in the circulation rules 'allow on-site use' or something different? 15:25 nlegrand a borrower could be allowed to check-out a defined number of book while on-site checking out also a defined number of books 15:26 nlegrand eg a borrower with 10 checked-out books and 20 on-site checked out books with a checkout quota of 10 and a on-site check out quota of 20 15:27 nlegrand is it clearer? 15:28 cait ah ok 15:28 cait i was thinking of a complete checkout rule for onsite- with the existing options appied to 'when the onsite-checkobx is set' 15:28 cait so you could define loan period, max to check out, fine options etc. 15:29 cait it's probably more work then extending tie cissuingrules table again - but maybe more flexible long term? else we end up duplicating everything in the end maybe 15:30 nlegrand That's beyond our need. Mainly because we don't do fines, and our on-site checkouts will be daylish apart from some exceptions where we will manualy set the date, thanks to you ^^ 15:34 reiveune bye 15:34 nlegrand I'm not against it though, it surely sounds better for the long term or for other needs than our own 15:36 nlegrand Not sure we have the money or the time for such a dev right now :) 15:36 nlegrand have to go, see you tomorrow! 15:38 cait sure :) bye! 15:41 cait @later tell nlegrand small steps are good too - could still extent it later and move stuff around :) 15:41 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 15:48 Joubu bye #koha 15:50 khall bye Joubu! 15:50 khall hey #koha looking for input on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14048 15:50 huginn` 04Bug 14048: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Change RefundLostItemFeeOnReturn to be branch specific 15:51 cait sounds good to me on first read :) 15:51 cait did you see the processing fee for lost items? 15:52 cait that's going by itemtype in the current patch 15:52 cait htere is a lot of work on 'lost' things overall 16:07 cait bye all 16:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14046: Make the CheckIfIssuedToPatron using the biblionumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40e4722a957102a52ece9cd4f21ab6fd902f3c18> / Bug 13819: (QA Followup) more documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ee69d78dcda0a12833f4dae5b0043d91f3c31ba> / Bug 13819: Add biblioitems to ISSUESLIP and ISSUEQSLIP in C4::Members::IssueSlip() <http://git.koha 16:53 gaetan_B bye 17:33 tcohen khall_phone: it seems 13790 needs rebasing. updatedatabase.pl conflict 17:33 khall_phone will do! 18:00 khall tcohen: 13790 is rebased! 18:01 tcohen khall++ 18:17 tcohen khall: how will this work with anonimization? 18:17 tcohen ah, it doesn't delete stuff 18:19 tcohen khall: let me know when you are around 18:19 tcohen (please :-D) 18:19 khall I'm in a staff meeting, what's up? 18:19 khall I can multi-task ; ) 18:19 tcohen what if the alter table fails? 18:20 tcohen for example, people has has bad imported data for ages 18:20 tcohen shouldn't we enclose this things on a transaction? just thinking out loud 18:21 khall tcohen: that makes sense to me! 18:21 tcohen i haven't seen that on updatedatabase.pl 18:21 tcohen but I'm worried because I have seen people's databases with such problems 18:22 tcohen i'll mark it candidate for 3.20, but please think a bit about it. Maybe i'm worried for nothing 18:22 khall tcohen: I'm not sure I can imagine a way it could fail though 18:22 khall but perhaps I'm unimaginative 18:22 tcohen and I worry too much 18:23 tcohen heh 18:26 tcohen it is a common fear I guess in situations were you are making a column have unique values when it didn't in the past 18:31 TGoat @later tell cbrannon what brand/style/type of parachute and how much? Got a container that goes with it? Ping tgoat 18:31 huginn` TGoat: The operation succeeded. 18:33 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13419: (QA followup) remove useless warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88eb0323d7bde5bc91b7c58bce2848fb502eb076> / Bug 13419: (follow-up) fix call to set_userenv <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=46fbcaadf12a9cf551ab446afeae0e4209fbe5d1> / Bug 13419: (follow-up) Add tests - remove existing shelves <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c 18:38 tcohen haspermission sucks 18:51 tcohen @later tell Joubu please take a look at 7939 18:51 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:54 wnickc Question: If OpacPublic is disabled a regular patron shoudl still be able to view and search as usual once logged in? 18:57 wnickc and they should be able to see their account as long as opacuserlogin is allow 18:59 wnickc I am having troubles getting in to opac accounts on master 19:33 wnickc hah, restored the wrong db, without the borrow permission things get wierd 19:42 misilot mhmm love when the notes say the item is lost and paid for, but it has an available status in the catalog :-/ 19:48 cait hm? 19:49 cait wnickc: hm can you describe a bit more 19:49 cait ? 19:49 cait wnickc: also try clearing your cache 19:49 cait i had some strange problem recently that stopped after 19:50 wnickc cait: yeah, I was testing a bug with updatedatabase and then restored to wrong db 19:50 wnickc when properly removed the borrow permission is useless, when just left out of database koha is unhappy 19:51 cait hah 19:51 cait that's exactly what i did to 19:51 cait o 19:51 * cait hand wnickc the cookie jar 19:51 * wnickc nom nom nom 19:52 mveron cait: Regarding the note on Bug 10947: "There is no way to create an authority with an empty string, withyou deleted you won't be able to recreate it." - Should that go to a new bug? 19:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10947 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Default framework for authorities can't be edited 19:53 cait probably 19:53 cait alhough noone will want to do that from the gui 19:53 cait as we have no import option yet for authorities 19:53 cait it won't hurt to have that documented 19:53 mveron Ok, I will file a bug 19:53 cait thx :) 19:54 * cait goes to put backslashes in users 20:07 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13482: Sent biblionumber to the template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a510a4515c9a62ad6005f2eb997496d403dd4247> / Bug 13482: Prevent race condition on printing a ReserveSlip <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2796eb21586ea7f23c2ca5d969d242b78b1cfa09> / Bug 14008: Proposed follow-up: Dialog should appear whenever filters are active <http://git.koha-commun 20:38 * mveron remembers antique Basic: IF (tired$ = 1) THEN GOTO Bed 20:39 mveron Good night / daytime #koha 20:41 cait :) 20:55 geek_cl ping -c1 cdickinson 20:57 cait quiet tonight 20:58 wnickc cait++ joubu++ nengard++ 20:58 cait wnickc++ :) 21:00 wnickc it's nice being a newbie, passed QA on my tiny bug just made my whole day 21:01 cait :) 21:01 cait now you made mine 21:01 wnickc koha++ making everyone happy 21:37 eythian hi 21:40 cdickinson geek_cl: 64 bytes from callum: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=42 minutes 21:41 cdickinson 45 minutes, damn it, IRC timestamp is misleading 21:41 cdickinson geek_cl: hiya, sorry but going to be AFK for a little while longer 21:44 geek_cl cdickinson, this is Larry 21:46 eythian http://tholman.com/elevator.js/ <-- we should put this into Koha, I think. 21:52 cait elastic search result lists? :P 22:01 wizzyrea that really makes my eyes go blerch 22:02 eythian cait: :D 22:03 wizzyrea oh it has audio too. 22:03 wizzyrea well that tears it, it should definitely go in koha. 22:03 cdickinson lol 22:04 wizzyrea oh and the ding. 22:04 eythian yeah, the audio is most of the point :) 22:04 cdickinson geek_cl: yeah, I thought you were, I'm heading into the office in a few minutes so we'll start this soon 22:05 cdickinson sorry but just wait a little bit longer please :P 22:06 eythian http://jvns.ca/strace-zine.pdf 22:11 talljoy rocio what kind of errors where you getting on the create dummy script? 22:11 * cait stares at her qa queue in frustration 22:12 talljoy ooo yikes cait 22:13 wizzyrea I can't read that but I really really want to >.< 22:13 eythian why can't you read it? 22:20 wizzyrea because I'd give myself a burst disc in my neck :P 22:20 wizzyrea but I printed it, if you would like to read it in comfort. 22:25 eythian wizzyrea: you click the >> button, and then select "rechtsom draaien" or "linksom draaien" as appropriate. 22:25 wizzyrea nope. I printed it. 22:28 wizzyrea also it's in no form of order unless you print it. 22:28 wizzyrea well ther eis order, but it's not linear. :P 22:28 eythian true 22:29 cait eythian++ good comment 22:29 eythian ta 22:33 cdickinson Hi geek_cl 22:38 tcohen hi 22:38 wahanui bonjour, tcohen 22:38 eythian hello tcohen 22:38 tcohen hi eythian 22:39 tcohen eythian: are you sure we need to drop support for 12.04? 22:39 eythian it's pretty similar to squeeze 22:39 tcohen ok 22:41 rangi plus 3 years old .. thats pretty good going 22:41 eythian yeah 22:41 eythian also its replacement has been out for a year now. 22:42 * cait waves at tcohen 22:42 tcohen hi cait 22:43 eythian quakey 22:43 rangi whoa that was pretty 22:43 rangi big 22:51 wizzyrea a jolty one. 22:56 cait hm could I interest someone familiar with plack take a look at bug 13815? 22:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , plack loose CGI qw(-utf8) flag creating incorrect utf-8 encoding everywhere 22:58 cait thx eythian :) 23:00 cdickinson ping -c1 geek_cl 23:08 eythian cait: if I add a record with UTF-8 in it, I can't search for that UTF-8. 23:08 eythian oh, I'm testing on a really old koha 23:08 eythian that's silly of me 23:10 eythian erk, the bug doesn't explain the wrong behaviour, and I can't reproduce it :/ 23:11 eythian well, I can't reproduce something that might not be working 23:11 eythian this said, I have seen that elsewhere. 23:11 cait you are confusing me 23:11 eythian Test scenario: 23:11 eythian 1. under plack try to search with utf-8 charactes 23:11 eythian ...and what? 23:12 eythian basically, in my test case at the moment I can't see any issues without the patch 23:12 eythian maybe I'll set up a newer one. 23:16 cait hm his initial patch asked to search for patrons with utf-8 23:16 cait is that what you do? 23:17 cait ah... ignore me 23:17 cait it's getting too late...1) and 2) 23:18 eythian yeah, I tried that too and it worked fine 23:23 cait hm 23:24 eythian but I am sure I've seen similar issues with plack before. 23:25 eythian anyway, setting up a plack install from master now to give that a go. 23:26 cait thx a lot 23:30 eythian (which means building new master packages first so it'll actually install on jessie...) 23:52 cait hm, should if be is? 23:52 cait Generate the print notices in a html file (default if --html, --csv and ods are not given) 23:52 rangi yeah 23:52 rangi is would make more sense 23:53 rangi actually that whole sentence makes no sense 23:57 eythian I don't think so. I think it's saying "this is the default if these things aren't given" 23:57 eythian but, it is badly phrased to start with. 23:57 eythian also, why would html be a default if --html is not given. 23:58 eythian burn it down and rewrite it.