Time  Nick        Message
02:16 mtompset    Does anyone have a nice "I'm a student, I swipe my card to enter library" script?
02:19 wnickc      anyone know if 405.tt is attached to anything?  looking at bug 10285
02:19 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10285 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Error 500 in staff client displays old start page
02:26 mtompset    just a second, wnickc. Let me check with a git grep.
02:27 mtompset    git grep 405.t | grep -v "\.po:"
02:27 mtompset    no results.
02:28 mtompset    Are you sure you didn't mean 404?
02:28 wnickc      hah
02:29 wnickc      thanks mtompset
02:36 mtompset    commented on 10285. :)
02:41 irma        Hi rangi, eythian ... Very upsetting lunchtime reading http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11432690
02:41 eythian     ah yeah
02:41 eythian     that's popped up in the news every few months lately.
02:42 eythian     a very silly decision by fairfax in hindsight.
02:42 irma        I wonder how this will end ...
02:43 irma        "The ministry says it is "in regular communications with Fairfax" and that "we expect Fairfax New Zealand to take all steps to resolve this matter in a way that recognises the obligations of their agreement with the ministry and under the act".
02:45 irma        There is wisdom in dividing up such jobs in parts. Do 10%, if it works progress to the next 10% ...
02:45 irma        Anyway back to work ... Have a pleasant afternoon...
02:46 eythian     later :)
04:26 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha.
06:33 * magnuse   waves
06:33 * bag       knuckles
06:33 * magnuse   knuckles back
06:33 magnuse     <<<<<<<<
06:33 marcelr     hi #koha
06:33 fridolin    hie
06:34 marcelr     hi fridolin
06:35 reiveune    hello
06:35 wahanui     privet, reiveune
06:39 magnuse     missed the meetings yesterday - gah!
06:45 marcelr     hi reiveune magnuse
06:46 reiveune    salut marcelr magnuse rangi
06:51 alex_a      bonjour
07:13 Joubu       Good morning #koha
07:13 drojf       morning #koha
07:16 marcelr     hi Joubu drojf
07:17 magnuse     @wunder marseille
07:17 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 15.1°C (9:02 AM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
07:17 magnuse     nice
07:17 magnuse     @wunder boo
07:17 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
07:17 magnuse     hm...
07:17 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
07:17 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:17 drojf       looks way warmer
07:23 magnuse     gah, translations
07:31 * magnuse   wishes he could spend a year to make koha use an explicit approach to marking strings for translation, like [% l('Some string') %]
07:34 drojf       cait++
07:34 drojf       no translations for me
07:35 magnuse     drojf: lucky you
07:36 * magnuse   wishes cait would do the norwegian translation too
07:43 drojf       heh
07:54 magnuse     kia ora cait
07:56 * cait      waves
08:07 magnuse     hey cait: wanna do the nb-NO translation too?
08:20 cait        nope
08:20 cait        but it was not bad for german
08:23 magnuse     i have not been able to keep up with the staff translation, so that has grown a bit...
08:23 cait        i am lucky - drojf and mveron do a lot
08:30 magnuse     drojf++ mveron++
08:32 ashimema    @wunder stevenage, uk
08:32 huginn`     ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 11.0°C (9:30 AM BST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:32 cdickinson  @wunder nzwn
08:32 huginn`     cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
08:36 cait        morning ashimema :)
08:36 ashimema    morning cait
08:37 magnuse     hiya ashimema and cdickinson
08:37 cdickinson  Hiya magnuse
08:40 ashimema    hi magnuse
08:41 ashimema    hi cdickinson
08:43 cdickinson  Hiya ashimema
08:44 cdickinson  wow, my IRC client is taking a selfish amount of CPU
08:44 cdickinson  all of a sudden
08:44 cdickinson  no, fixed itself... ?_>?
08:44 cdickinson  ?_?*
08:46 cait        it's because you told us
08:47 cdickinson  in that case, good thing I did :P
08:47 cdickinson  Firefox is doing something similar though, must have too many tabs open again
08:51 magnuse     firefox sometimes goes crazy, even without lots of tabs
08:54 cdickinson  yeah x_x it'd be nice if it wasn't, but it's my weapon of choice so I have to live with the repercussions of that
08:55 magnuse     wow, vlc was misbehaving for me. kill the right process and the fan goes quiet
09:04 cdickinson  my computer is whisper quiet so I don't have problems like that, thankfully
09:13 magnuse     so is mine, as long as nothing is misbehaving
10:08 ashimema    mines not ;(
10:09 ashimema    'tis like a tornado in here..
10:09 ashimema    it felt really quiet when it was new..
10:09 ashimema    bt that was 5 years ago
10:10 cait        hm maybe cleanig the fans could help? made a huge difference on mien
11:41 cait        Joubu++
11:46 marcelr     khall++ #10480
11:47 khall       np!
11:49 magnuse     anyone need an excuse to go to Oslo in may? http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/
12:22 Joubu       khall: Hi! Could I get your opinion on the alternative patch I have just submitted on bug 13482 please?
12:22 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13482 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , A race condition prevents item info from being available for ReserveSlip (hold notice) printing.
12:45 gaetan_B    hello
12:48 andreashm   hi
12:48 wahanui     que tal, andreashm
12:52 tcohen      morning
12:52 tcohen      Joubu:
12:55 magnuse     ¡hola tcohen!
12:57 marcelr     hi tcohen : in the race again for RM :)
12:58 tcohen      that's correct
12:58 andreashm   hey
12:59 tcohen      marcelr: i think i can commit more hours a day to that tasks now
13:00 tcohen      amd I enjoy it, so... i propose to continue if the community agrees
13:00 marcelr     very good; i expect not many to step up still ..
13:02 nengard     morning all
13:03 marcelr     hi nengard
13:04 nengard     :)
13:05 magnuse     tcohen++
13:05 magnuse     kia ora nengard
13:06 tcohen      hi nengard
13:18 Joubu       tcohen: hello
13:18 cait        Joubu++ reading my mind?
13:19 cait        also khall++
13:19 Joubu       cait: ?
13:19 cait        the race condition bug
13:19 cait        i was so wishing someone would look at that again :)
13:19 Joubu       I tried another approach
13:19 cait        it seems to happen all the time nw - i got a very unhappy library
13:19 Joubu       tcohen: have you seen my later yesterday?
13:19 tcohen      i didn't
13:20 tcohen      was it about Members::Search() ?
13:20 Joubu       yes!
13:20 andreashm   magnuse: sent you an e-mail. good news.
13:21 Joubu       tcohen: do you understand the problem?
13:22 tcohen      we are fixing a bug, but the unit tests re-introduce a use of Members::Search
13:22 magnuse     andreashm: i saw. excellent! but i gotta run again... :-)
13:22 tcohen      which we want to remove
13:23 Joubu       tcohen: actually the code introduced by the first patch has been removed by the "DT for all patron searches" patch
13:23 Joubu       so tests don't make sense anymore, and worst, it reintroduces call to this routine
13:25 andreashm   magnuse: np, get back to me when you have time. just wanted to let you know.
13:27 tcohen      Joubu: i haven't revisited the situation yet, sorry
13:27 tcohen      but I will sure revert it if you are correct
13:28 tcohen      which I'm pretty sure you are
14:04 chris_n     Anybody seen this problem:
14:04 chris_n     We are upgrading from Koha 3.19.00.013 to 3.19.00.019, you must update your database
14:04 chris_n     annot open log file /home/cnighswonger/koha-dev/var/log/updatedatabase_2015-04-16T10:03:37.log: No such file or directory at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories/koha.dev/installer/install.pl line 332.
14:09 chris_n     seems to be related to 83fee24d
14:09 chris_n     which looks to be planck related which I am not running
14:11 Joubu       chris_n: have a look at bug 13876
14:16 cait        chris_n: and run the update from command line for now
14:19 cait        Joubu: left a note on bug 10355
14:19 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10355 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Second click on modification log misses object parameter
14:20 Joubu       cait: that's what I did :)
14:20 Joubu       will try on 3.18
14:20 cait        ok
14:20 cait        maybe one of the recent changes broke it?
14:20 cait        it's the src paramter i think
14:21 Joubu       ha, it's different in 3.18
14:21 cait        there are 3 ways i know: from hte patron account, from the record detail page and from tools
14:22 Joubu       cait: on master, i got the tool menu, even if I come from the detail page
14:22 cait        i think we broke that then hm
14:22 Joubu       it's a ft or a bug? :)
14:22 cait        bug :)
14:22 cait        can you try from the patron account?
14:23 cait        works in 3.18 for me - staying in the patron account
14:23 Joubu       from the patron account, I got the circ menu
14:23 Joubu       ok so it's a bug, git bisect power
14:26 Joubu       ok new bug, my bad
14:26 Joubu       fix one, introduce one...
14:30 cait        heh
14:30 cait        99 little bugs in the code...
14:32 cait        oh i missed bug 14000
14:32 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Icons not longer appear on sco
14:32 cait        remember all - tomorrow is QA sprint!
14:55 cait        bye all :)
14:56 chris_n     Joubu: 13876 fixed it for me, so I signed off on the patches as well
15:09 reiveune    bye
15:30 Joubu       chris_n: thanks! I will have a look again tomorrow to qa it
15:31 Joubu       have a good day/evening #koha
15:57 gaetan_B    bye
16:24 data_doctor There is a problem with the System preference: AllowHoldsOnPatronsPossessions
16:24 data_doctor It does not work as expected in v3.16
16:24 data_doctor http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13374
16:24 huginn`     04Bug 13374: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , AllowHoldsOnPatronsPossessions not working
16:25 data_doctor Looks like old code is the culprit.
16:25 data_doctor Does anyone know if this is addressed in v3.18?
16:25 data_doctor I'll try to find out.
16:40 data_doctor The 'GetItemsByBiblioitemnumber' subroutine, and the Items.pm appear to have the same issues in v3.18.
16:57 tcohen      Joubu: Koha::Version?
17:21 tcohen      gmcharlt_: it is possible that the git server's disk is full?
17:26 smrt        hi does anyone know of a quick way to get the guarantor information into an overdue notice?  is there a tag or something I can just put into the template?
17:30 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143 Adding new developers and releases to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a26a05cfb56e7fe42ec6a4228ecf2c9b9ac93a4> / Bug 13803 Flag to self check book has gone into transit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31e3fe22dc6749b814c627b9633222ab72ae6192> / Bug 13991: (QA followup) uninitialized value and [0] in /tools/viewlog.pl <http://git.koha-co
17:51 bag         tcohen: I can check on git server being full or not
17:51 tcohen      bag: awesome!
17:51 wahanui     That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen
17:52 bag         tcohen 43% full
17:52 tcohen      when i last pushed, i got some errors about exim not being able to write something on /var/spool
17:52 tcohen      but the push worked
17:53 bag         yeah it looks like you have tons of space
17:53 tcohen      ok, i won't care then :-D
17:56 * magnuse   knucles
18:04 bag         knuckles
18:05 magnuse     <<<<<<<
18:06 magnuse     bag: HI
18:40 andreashm   mjello
18:40 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 13189: (QA Followup) Unit Tests" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8f6500274eeb6055dd388a54740d4b6271894f6> / Bug 10480: (QA followup) hide the EXAMPLE.pl plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2292bff781305dc8a16328c43394fb2c3aaa34f6> / Bug 10480: Follow-up for unimarc_field_686a/_700-4.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi
18:42 chris_n     @seen oleonard
18:42 huginn`     chris_n: oleonard was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 47 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on.
18:42 chris_n     wow, that's awhile ago
18:43 chris_n     @later tell oleonard have a look at bug 10222
18:43 huginn`     chris_n: The operation succeeded.
18:53 gmcharlt_   bag: could you pass the word to Larry that the Git server's main filesystem has gone read-only?
18:55 bag         gmcharlt_: done
18:57 larryb      hey gmcharlt_
18:57 andreashm   ah. found a trivial bug. I'm on it! =)
18:58 gmcharlt_   larryb: http://paste.koha-community.org/47
19:01 larryb      gmcharlt, I have a suspicion. We had two sites this morning that locked up, and we had to put them in rescue mode to run fsck. I'm wondering if we're seeing similar disk errors on the git server. I think I need to reboot and see if the console indicates fsck errors.
19:01 larryb      it'll be down for a little while
19:01 gmcharlt    larryb: I had a feeling; thanks for looking at this!
19:02 * gmcharlt  starts humming the hurry-along-fsck song
19:02 larryb      I'm wondering if these three sites share a common Rackspace host
19:02 larryb      having this many sites with fsck errors at once is unheard of
19:02 gmcharlt    yeah, that does sound consistent with a failure of storage on the host
19:09 larryb      okay gmcharlt I rebooted the server and fsck did report errors that it corrected. It's up now and *appears* to be working.
19:09 gmcharlt    larryb++
19:09 larryb      if it goes read-only again, let me know and I'll Rackspace to move it to another host.
19:09 larryb      ask
19:10 gmcharlt    larryb: you regularly rack space and time...
19:10 * gmcharlt  backs away slowly
19:10 gmcharlt    ;)
19:10 larryb      heh
19:10 larryb      thanks, I think
19:10 gmcharlt    larryb: what a difference a missing word makes ;)
19:12 larryb      yes, I often leave out words when I'm typing in IRC, usually with humorous or embarrassing results
19:14 magnuse     @later tell tcohen could you please cast an eye on bug 14006?
19:14 huginn`     magnuse: The operation succeeded.
19:41 magnuse     kia ora pianohacker! now get back to your studies ;-)
19:42 pianohacker :(
19:43 magnuse     it's that fun, eh?
19:45 pianohacker counting down every hour...
19:46 magnuse     how many left?
19:51 pianohacker 25 days and 10 hours
19:51 magnuse     w00t!
20:04 andreashm   If I don't agree with changes introduced in a patch, the correct way forward would be to write a comment?
20:08 wnickc      andreashm: I think so, and set to in-discussion or another status depending on the level and type of disagreement
20:09 wnickc      bug in question?
20:09 andreashm   bug 14005
20:09 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14005 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Fix wording of previousIssuesDefaultSortOrder and todaysIssuesDefaultSortOrder
20:09 andreashm   small one
20:12 andreashm   should I change status to in-discussion? (seems a bit silly for a trivial bug...)
20:17 wnickc      I always lean toward changing it, if someone strongly disagrees they can change it back
20:17 andreashm   ok, thanks wnickc
20:20 cait        :)
20:21 pianohacker heh, woops, that was a kind of confusing way to word that
20:32 cait        @wunder Konstanz
20:32 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 16.8°C (10:32 PM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:33 hkh         !whois cait
20:34 cait        hi
20:34 cait        wondering about me? :)
20:35 hkh         cait: I am a newbee, trying to get involved
20:35 cait        ah, what's your background?
20:35 hkh         cait: I got a hint you are expert in connecting to sru at dnb
20:36 cait        ah not sure i can help there - haven't tried it out yet
20:36 cait        so far we have only used the z39.50 features
20:36 hkh         cait: y background is many years in it, now retired and working to keep a library at grossauheim alive
20:36 cait        ah i think we have talked on the phone ;)
20:37 cait        does it have to be dnb or is another german source ok too?
20:37 hkh         cait: other sources are welcome, no doubt
20:38 hkh         cait: dnb offers only sru but the catalog seems to be very comprehensive
20:38 cait        [off] z3050n.bsz-bw.de :20210 db: swb  ... utf8 usmarc bibliographic
20:38 cait        I think sru with dnb should totally be possible, i just didn't have time to play with it yet
20:39 hkh         cait: registration required for bsz-bw?
20:39 cait        nope
20:39 cait        it's free
20:40 hkh         cait: I'll try bsz-bw!
20:40 cait        hm and fix the typo
20:40 cait        z3950n
20:41 cait        i think irspy might have other sources - all the big union catalogs I think probably still offer z39.50
20:42 hkh         cait: next question: after registration I was successful to query dnb from the browser however querying from koha failed
20:43 cait        hm really not have experience with sru yet :( marcelr developed the feature, he might be a good person to ask for advice
20:43 hkh         cait how can I debug, e.g. see what query was sent out and what response came back? tcpdump or koha specific debugging?
20:43 cait        mostly around at saner times of the day tho
20:54 hkh         cait: thanks fot today's advice :-)
21:22 wizzyrea    hi
21:28 wnickc      hi
22:01 wnickc      good night #koha
22:18 eythian     hi