Time  Nick        Message
00:49 wizzyrea    stupid windows.
00:50 wizzyrea    actually, I was lamenting that you can't put a limit << Limit >> sql parameter in the saved reports, because the code adds quotes around all parameters.
00:50 wizzyrea    and limits don't work with quotes around them, sql syntax-wise
00:51 wizzyrea    well at that exact moment I was lamenting about the stupid error I was getting because it didn't make much sense.
00:51 wizzyrea    the above which happened to be the cause of it.
00:51 dcook       O_o
00:52 dcook       I'm not sure what we're booing, but I want to get behind it :p
00:52 eythian     it concerns me that we don't build parametric queries like is the law.
00:52 dcook       I feel you on the << Limit >> thing though
00:53 dcook       eythian: surely we must?
00:53 eythian     dcook: if it's wrapping quotes around things, then we can't be
00:53 eythian     well, it'd be dumb to do so, anyway
00:53 eythian     like, extra dumb
00:55 dcook       Well, the parameterized queries would wrap quotes around it. Hopefully that's how it's being done
00:55 wizzyrea    tbh I'm afraid to look.
00:55 * dcook     hasn't looked at the reports in a while
00:55 wizzyrea    I'm afraid I might end up a bit like this http://i.imgur.com/QMFZ8Zq.gif
00:56 eythian     dcook: no, parameterised queries don't wrap quotes
00:56 dcook       lol
00:56 eythian     they behave like that's happened, but they don't actually quote because that'd be silly
00:57 dcook       Interesting. I suppose I meant more that's how it seems like they behave.
00:57 dcook       As in, you can't add ? parameters to other places than the WHERE clause from what I've seen
00:57 eythian     sure you can
00:57 eythian     LIMIT, SET, etc.
00:57 eythian     most places where a value is going
00:58 dcook       Hmm, that's right
00:58 wahanui     no it's not.
00:58 dcook       What am I thinking of then?
00:58 dcook       There's some place I wanted to put them but couldn't...
00:58 eythian     you can't put them on the left hand side
00:58 eythian     so, you can't supply a column name for example
00:58 dcook       Hmm, maybe that's what I was thinking of
00:58 eythian     basically you have to thing of the parameterised query as an input to the optimiser, and so everything needed to work out how to solve it must be in place.
00:59 wizzyrea    supplying a column name seems vaguely dangerous
00:59 eythian     it's not possible, too
00:59 dcook       Makes sense
00:59 dcook       In that case, sounds like the run-time parameters might be a bit dodgey?
00:59 wizzyrea    good thing, because it seems dangerous (i.e. easy to screw up)
00:59 dcook       yeah
01:00 eythian     yeah, if they're making queries like blah='$var1', then they're totally dodgy
01:00 eythian     (disclaimer: I don't know how they work really, just that if they are causing LIMIT <<something>> to be an error, then it's probably bad.
01:01 eythian     hmm, actually
01:01 eythian     oh, no, I'm still right:
01:01 eythian     > Within prepared statements, LIMIT parameters can be specified using ? placeholder markers.
01:02 eythian     this might be a recent change though, I see some things on the internet saying that you couldn't do that
01:03 eythian     oh, you can't with stored procedures, but we don't use them
01:03 jcamins     That's a recent feature.
01:03 jcamins     Well... a couple years.
01:04 eythian     that was the 5.5 manual I quoted there
01:09 jcamins     Yeah, that might've come out a couple years ago. I can't remember.
01:09 jcamins     I was thrilled when they added that, though.
01:11 eythian     yeah, it's a good thing to have
01:11 jcamins     Oh, it was 5.0.7.
01:11 eythian     that was a little while ago
01:12 jcamins     Yeah.
01:13 jcamins     Actually, I should've been able to figure out it was ten years ago... I was in college when I found out that feature existed.
01:16 wizzyrea    rangi++ for remembering all of the features and general awesomeness.
01:18 eythian     http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/27/8/enhanced/webdr01/enhanced-buzz-757-1425045191-13.jpg <-- heh
01:18 wizzyrea    hehehehe
01:18 * wizzyrea  is not sure where en-NZ fits in that.
01:19 wizzyrea    also, not qualified to even make a funny guess. :P
01:20 dcook       hehe
02:58 mtj         hey rangi, got a tic re: 12954?
02:58 mtj         bug 12954
02:58 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12954 is not accessible.
03:00 rangi       yep, has the patch for 3.16 been released yet? if not we shouldnt discuss it in the logged channel until it has
03:00 mtj         ahh, thanks for the reminder
03:42 eythian     > If you write interfaces with more than 4 or 5 function arguments, it's possible that you and I cannot be friends.
03:44 * wizzyrea  takes a note
03:51 wizzyrea    ohhhh what are we gonna do about/with/for bibframe in Koha
03:51 wizzyrea    that's mostly rhetorical.
03:51 wizzyrea    you can answer if you want.
04:08 eythian     http://www.1-day.co.nz/onsale/books0804/p/?amp;utm_medium=Email <-- wizzyrea, mtj, cdickinson, rangi, any other NZers I'm forgetting that are in here.
04:08 wizzyrea    oooo
04:09 eythian     'course, I'm not getting the GoT set until he gaddamn finishes them
04:09 wizzyrea    lol.
04:10 cdickinson  o.o?
04:11 cdickinson  not be able to today, but that site will now live in my bookmarks forever
04:14 eythian     yeah, they have a lot of junk and the occasional actually useful thing.
04:22 dcook       "Sstory Continues Box Set" hehe
04:22 dcook       Story*
04:22 wizzyrea    cdickinson: I suppose you know of grabone and treatme?
04:22 wizzyrea    also "one day deal" kind of sites
04:23 cdickinson  ahh
04:24 cdickinson  normally don't really buy stuff online unless I have to, but just never really knew NZ had sites like that
04:25 eythian     we have piles of them
04:27 cdickinson  good, competition
04:29 mtj         computer stuff too -> http://www.1-day.co.nz/onsale/personal0904/p/
04:29 mtj         ta eythian
04:33 cdickinson  yeah, the computer stuff is what I'm most interested in
04:34 cdickinson  usually use PriceSpy to get me the best prices for that
04:34 cdickinson  but then again, everything there isn't USUALLY on special at a 1-day site...
04:34 dcook       One of these days, I'll learn how to use the inventory tool and really remember...
04:40 wizzyrea    ...what it's like to be a librarian?
04:40 wizzyrea    I didn't know where that thought was going, sorry I couldn't just let it hang there.
04:40 dcook       :p
04:40 cdickinson  well, I was a library monitor for my school
04:40 dcook       I figure inventory would be fairly useful
04:41 cdickinson  shelf checking sucks
04:41 dcook       That it does
04:41 cdickinson  people never put ANYTHING in the right place, EVER
04:41 dcook       hehe
04:41 dcook       That's why my uni libraries had places designated where you put books
04:41 dcook       Orange shelves or special carts/tables
04:41 dcook       It made library life so much easier
04:42 dcook       Only ever did inventories in small college or government libraries though..
04:42 cdickinson  our library at my school was small and it annoyed me haha
04:42 cdickinson  stock take was worse though
04:42 dcook       I found it mostly just painful on my knees
04:43 * dcook     was elated to graduate from circ staff/shelver to librarian
04:43 dcook       Now I sit at a desk and never move. Oh wait...
04:43 dcook       Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess
04:43 cdickinson  I never had any drama manning the desk issuing and returning books
04:44 cdickinson  apart from when whatever library software we didn't use that wasn't Koha crashed
04:44 cdickinson  we used*
04:44 dcook       I actually met a lot of girls when working the desk...
04:44 dcook       Also once swapped a pen for a kitkat. Mmm chocolate.
04:44 cdickinson  boy's only school, so nope
04:44 cdickinson  boys*
04:45 dcook       Ah, this was uni. My grade schools were too remote to really have a library.
04:45 dcook       Well, we had a "resource room", but it was almost always locked
04:45 cdickinson  yeah, that's fair enough
04:46 cdickinson  my primary school only just had a library
04:46 cdickinson  but I'm talking about my secondary school... even though that was small too, but it was a blessing because I won't have to post on Reddit about any disasters there :>
04:51 dcook       That strangely reminds me... what brings you to Koha, cdickinson? I heard you're over at Catalyst?
04:53 cdickinson  Yeah, I'm with Catalyst
04:54 cdickinson  I'm an engineering student, and I'm going to be working on getting Koha ready for the cloud as part of my honours project
04:56 cdickinson  things are only just getting started, but I'm looking forward to working with everyone here, really excited about this project
04:58 dcook       Awesome. It's a pretty great group!
04:59 dcook       What sort of plans do you have so far?
04:59 cdickinson  Yeah, even just idling here overnight I can see there's a healthy mix of real work getting done and silly banter going around :P
05:00 cdickinson  The plan is kinda vague so far, it's just how these things start off
05:00 cdickinson  But we will be using OpenStack to provide "Koha as a Service", if you get what I mean
05:01 cdickinson  the details of how this will work are being ironed out as we speak ;)
05:04 cdickinson  the key things we want are that OpenStack can automatically scale up and down the amount of compute power as needed, and do this automatically and quickly so new users can be deployed easily, and existing users won't notice any difference in quality of service
05:09 dcook       cdickinson: That sounds great :)
05:10 dcook       yo magnuse
05:10 cdickinson  dcook: I think so too haha
05:11 dcook       Is this getting published anywhere? ;)
05:11 dcook       We mostly host all of our Koha instances in house. I've been doing some work to replicate to AWS, but only for disaster recovery at the moment...
05:12 cdickinson  ah, cool
05:12 cdickinson  yeah, that's the plan AFAIK
05:12 dcook       Cool :)
05:12 cdickinson  going to be a busy boy writing up articles on the Koha Wiki
05:13 eythian     dcook: our infrastructure is openstack, which looks a lot like AWS.
05:14 cdickinson  might be looking into using Heat to help us with the automatic instance deployment stuff, which is similar to AWS CloudFormation.. so hopefully most of what I'm doing here transfers over
05:16 dcook       Ah, after a bit of reading, I see what you mean, eythian
05:18 * Francesca waves
05:18 cdickinson  Hiya Francesca
05:19 dcook       yo Francesca
05:19 Francesca   yo
05:19 Francesca   how goes it?
05:19 eythian     hmm, koha not installable on debian jessie
05:19 dcook       O_O
05:19 eythian     has yui gone completely, anyone know?
05:19 dcook       That doesn't sound good, eythian
05:19 dcook       Ahh
05:19 eythian     koha-common : Depends: libjs-yui but it is not installable
05:19 * magnuse   waves
05:20 eythian     it looks like debian has removed that.
05:20 * dcook     has wondered about those libjs dependencies
05:20 dcook       Francesca: excellent :)
05:20 cdickinson  Just about to log off, actually
05:20 eythian     for the best, but I don't know if we still need it or use it.
05:20 cdickinson  going to see my friend in hospital
05:20 Francesca   oh dear
05:20 dcook       Hmm, I think I've seen it in use in 3.14.5?
05:20 Francesca   is your friend ok?
05:20 dcook       In the staff client, I think?
05:20 cdickinson  Yes and no
05:20 cdickinson  Cancer, lost his leg
05:21 Francesca   oh no
05:21 Francesca   poor guy
05:21 cdickinson  but he's all goods, he's in there for his last two rounds of chemo and then he's a free man
05:21 Francesca   not all bad then
05:22 cdickinson  I'd like to stick around for the conversation, though... I really will set up an IRC bouncer this weekend
05:23 magnuse     eythian: seen bug 13612? i think yui might still be used in the staff interface
05:23 wahanui     bug was last seen on #koha 3 years, 222 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: seneca: rangi is a man :P [Wed Aug 31 03:01:06 2011]
05:23 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13612 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove old YUI javacript libraries from opac-tmpl
05:23 eythian     magnuse: hmm
05:23 cdickinson  alright, I'll be back in a bit
05:23 dcook       Yeah, I'm seeing it at least show up in ids and classes...
05:23 dcook       Well, in 3.14.5...
05:23 eythian     my other thought is that we might not actually use yui system libraries, and just carry our own copy
05:23 eythian     checking that out now.
05:24 dcook       I think we do carry our own copy, which is why I was always surprised that the system libraries got used..
05:24 dcook       I think the packages do some magic to use the system ones instead though/
05:24 dcook       ?*
05:24 eythian     they did
05:24 eythian     I can't remember if they still do
05:24 magnuse     bug 13759
05:24 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13759 major, P3, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , git-build-snapshot misses YUI and dies of sorrow during build
05:25 eythian     rm -r \
05:25 eythian     $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui
05:25 eythian     ln -s /usr/share/javascript/yui \
05:25 eythian     $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui
05:26 eythian     so we swap out the koha-contained library for a system one.
05:26 * eythian   will not enjoy fixing this
05:26 eythian     it might just be enough to remove those links
05:28 * dcook     thought that sounded familiar
05:33 dcook       It can't be Thursday already..
05:34 eythian     monday off remember
05:35 magnuse     yeah. sneaky
05:35 dcook       Yeah, it was just too fast :p
05:36 dcook       Hmm, just remembered DSpace's indexing scripts changed between versions.. that makes things tougher for me..
06:21 dcook       "use version;" ftw
06:21 dcook       It seems like there's a Perl module for everything
06:32 ashimema    there's not a perl module for RAML yet
06:33 dcook       http://raml.org/ ?
06:33 ashimema    wow..  http://www.gofundme.com/TomasNeedsALaptop.. almost half way there already
06:33 ashimema    That's the one dcook..
06:34 ashimema    I sorta prefer it to Swagger
06:34 dcook       Looks sweet :)
06:34 ashimema    feels nicer somehow..
06:34 ashimema    but there's a tad less support for it out there so far.
06:34 dcook       At a glance, I prefer it
06:34 dcook       That makes a difference :/
06:34 ashimema    there's still a huge amount of support though ;)
06:35 ashimema    just not quiet as much as Swagger
06:35 ashimema    I'm really tempted to write a Mojo plugin for it.. based loosly around the Swagger one.
06:45 marcelr     hi #koha
06:46 dcook       hey marcelr
06:46 marcelr     :)
06:47 dcook       oh hey, did you have any more luck with Text::Bidi?
06:47 dcook       I can't remember what bug that was now... but I was curious
06:47 dcook       bug 12068 it seems
06:47 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages
07:01 andreashm   morning
07:05 marcelr     dcook: I left Text::Bidi for later
07:07 cait        davidnind++
07:07 dcook       marcelr: Ah, right. I think I found your solution, so hopefully it works :)
07:07 marcelr     dcook++
07:08 fridolin    bonjour tout le modne
07:08 cait        fridolin: i haven't had time to research more yet - but i think the subtitle is used more widely in the non xslt views - and also not only for subtitle, you can put other fields in there too - hope i get to answer the ml mail, but in case i won't :)
07:09 dcook       salut fridolin
07:09 dcook       cait: I think you can add other things than subtitle, but I don't know if they're picked up anywhere
07:09 dcook       We used to use that for customized templates though..
07:11 cait        i meant other fields than the subtitle field to the SUBTITLE keyword
07:11 cait        we use it for 245$n
07:11 fridolin    cait: thanks a lot
07:11 cait        that's the volume title
07:11 cait        otherwise that wouldn't dispaly in some places as $a only has the title of the work and is always the same
07:12 cait        i'd just be careful before throwing it out
07:12 fridolin    the thing is that in some places, the code gets marcxml only to get this subtitle
07:13 fridolin    it creates a big query and creates a MARC::Record just to get 1 data
07:13 cait        hm i understand
08:22 rangi       mveron++
08:22 nlegrand    Bonjour #koha
08:22 rangi       Joubu++
08:22 rangi       fredericd++
08:22 rangi       ashimema++
08:22 rangi       andreashm++
08:23 rangi       eythian++
08:23 rangi       mtj++
08:23 rangi       there i think thats everyone i recognise and know nicks for :)
08:23 ashimema    :)
08:24 ashimema    it's nice to have such a warm community
08:24 ashimema    rangi++
08:33 magnuse     community++
08:35 rangi       oh
08:35 rangi       magnuse++
08:35 magnuse     :-)
08:39 * cait      waves
08:41 * magnuse   waves back
08:53 hasenbear   hello. am in germany. suddenly having trouble gaining accesss through z39.50 to all datenbanks previously used. data sets are coming back either empty, full of gibberish, or we get the error that connection has failed.
08:54 hasenbear   connections have been working up till now (used sporatically) and there have been no known changes to the access info.  help?
08:54 cait        did you update koha? or change something else?
08:55 hasenbear   not that i am aware of.
08:56 cait        when did it start? can you give an example for a connection you use?
08:57 cait        hm and make sure the system preferences z3950NormalizeAuthor is set to 'kopiere keine'
08:58 hasenbear   started on tuesday this week.  example: BIBLIOTHEKZENTRALE BW 		20081013d2008 |||y0gerb0103 ba 				0-521-61291-8 | 0-521-84843-1 | 978-0-521-61291-3 | 978-0-521-84843-5 	MARC 	Karte 	Import
08:59 cait        hmmm interesting
08:59 wahanui     i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
08:59 cait        that#s ours
08:59 cait        which connection data did you configure?
09:00 hasenbear   all the otehr servers except  that one are coming back aas "connection failed"
09:00 cait        i just tested - it works ok forme
09:01 cait        connection failed sometiems can happen because of changes in the firewall - as the ports are often different
09:01 cait        but the gibberish is weird - would be intersting to see how you configured it
09:05 drojf       hi #koha
09:12 magnuse     moin drojf
09:12 magnuse     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2015-04-13_Global_bug_squashing_day
09:13 drojf       hei magnuse
09:13 magnuse     oh and https://www.gofundme.com/TomasNeedsALaptop
09:20 magnuse     wiki, mailing lists, twitter - done
09:22 drojf       magnuse++
09:26 Joubu       magnuse: you forgot fb and linkedin!
09:28 fridolin    what the ...
09:28 magnuse     Joubu: oh noes!
09:29 fridolin    a programmer needs a laptop
09:29 drojf       that must have been the most quiet day in koha history http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-04-04
09:30 magnuse     Joubu: fb is done now, please share :-)
09:30 magnuse     i'm skipping linkedin, though
09:30 Joubu       magnuse: it was a joke, I don't have a fb account :)
09:33 magnuse     :-)
09:42 oli         Hey - I was wondering if someone could help me with some Koha API stuff?
09:44 magnuse     oli: chances are noone will say yes until they know a bit more :-)
09:45 oli         Fair point! I'm trying to find a list of endpoints or some more concrete documentation about what is available around getting loans for a specific user
09:45 oli         I'm quite new to Koha so I my not be using the correct terminology - but I need to get a list of current loans, holds, and fines for a given user
09:46 oli         I can't find documentation anywhere
09:46 magnuse     have you looked at the ils-di api?
09:47 magnuse     it is self-documented at <opac>/cgi-bin/koha/ilsdi.pl
09:48 magnuse     you probably have to enable it
09:48 oli         Ahh, awesome - thanks. I had a look at their site but thought it was for sharing information between libraries
09:49 magnuse     it can also be used to build opac substitutes
09:49 magnuse     there is also a rest api: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_/svc/_HTTP_API this is in the process of being replaced with a more consistent api
09:51 oli         Is there anywhere I can get a listing of the methods available in the REST API?
09:52 Joubu       oli: you should have a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/New_REST_API_RFC#Background
09:54 Joubu       The most complete is koha-restful, but ils-di could be enough
09:54 oli         Is that what's currently implemented or the plan for the new version?
09:57 Joubu       oli: this page is the plan for the new version. The "background" section describes the existing solutions
09:57 hasenbear   cait: sorry, was called away. thanks, will check with the admin again to see if changes have been made and report back with detailed config if need be.  cheers!
09:59 oli         Awesome - thanks for the info Joubu and magnuse. That's really helpful, I was totally lost before!
10:03 oli         Regarding authentication for ILS-DI; is that simply based on the requesters IP address?
10:04 cait        that and sending the login for theuser i think
10:05 cait        hm not entirely sure tho
10:06 oli         It seems to be returning data even when I don't have a session
10:06 cait        ah, good to know
10:08 oli         Getting data from Azure so I'll have to setup a proxy to keep things secure
10:18 Joubu       oli: yes there is a pref to set the IP addresses to authorise
10:18 Joubu       ILS-DI:AuthorizedIPs
10:18 Joubu       ooops
10:19 cait        wow, 1155$ now :)
10:26 Joubu       Shouldn't OpacPrivacy be set by default??
10:39 cait        hm thought it was
10:39 cait        where do you look, in borrowers? or the pref?
10:45 Joubu       cait: the pref
10:45 wahanui     well, the pref is "dateformat" and it's under I18n/L10N preferences
11:41 magnuse     wahanui: forget the pref
11:41 wahanui     magnuse: I forgot pref
11:41 magnuse     pref?
11:41 magnuse     the pref?
12:55 tcohen      morning
13:05 fridolin    good morning tcohen
13:05 tcohen      hi frido
13:32 khall       mornin all!
13:32 tcohen      morning khall
13:33 khall       mornin tcohen!
13:36 cait        morning tcohen :)
13:37 tcohen      hi cait
13:38 magnuse     \o/
13:48 druthb      \o/
15:03 talljoy     good morning #koha
15:09 barton      Hey, I just had a brainstorm (tempest in a teacup) ... how 'bout we set up a very low-friction testing environment specifically for signoff of trivial bugs? Set up a secondary dashboard that only shows tickets that need sign off and have severity of 'Trivial' ... this would be a good entry point for people who might not otherwise do signoffs.
15:11 tcohen      #koha: what was the bug # for the broken checkin ?
15:15 fridolin    see u
16:09 Joubu       tcohen: what is the broken checkin?
17:38 tcohen      Joubu: http://snag.gy/XiNXX.jpg
17:38 tcohen      Joubu: then http://snag.gy/tnCNc.jpg
17:39 magnuse     bless you
17:40 wnickc      heh
17:45 tcohen      hi kivilahtio
17:46 tcohen      kivilahtio: is there always an enumchron on serials? otherwise you might be introducing a warning on 13611
17:48 tcohen      any QA member: 13934
17:52 magnuse     bug 13611
17:52 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Passed QA , Serial enumeration not visible in the opac-user.pl when browsing own holds.
17:52 magnuse     bug 13934
17:52 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13934 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Check in fails on master "Can't bless non-reference at .../ItemType.pm Line 64"
17:53 * magnuse   is curious
17:54 tcohen      the latter breaks checkin
17:54 tcohen      *critical*
17:54 tcohen      *it fixes it
17:56 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8796 - patron cards not starting on designated card <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f60138080cba847a53b7373c0c98ec42766b8df> / Bug 13349 [QA Followup] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ab2ebfc59d2a0e2f9515156951251f7d738a5eb> / Bug 13349 - Allow library code to display against users pending changes -update screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
18:17 misilot     Does anyone use the oclc connexion gateway tool with their ILS on an internal ip? The reason I ask, is I am wondering if OCLC is trying to talk to Koha directly, or if it's going through the Connexion Client. Trying to determine if it's the firewall blocking access or something else.
18:22 tcohen      bye #koha
19:02 cait        hi #koha
19:13 bag         hi cait
19:20 bag         anybody have an idea of what the nozebra table does?
19:23 wnickc      stores index info if not using zebra? http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/zebranozebra.html
19:24 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
19:29 cait        wnickc: correct
19:29 cait        bag: it's obsolete
19:30 cait        hm don't have it n my newer database
19:34 mtompset    obsolete? What's obsolete? :)
19:35 cait        nozebradb table
19:39 mtompset    Ah.
19:41 bag         right it was added - 3.00.00.05
19:46 andreashm   evening
19:48 pianohacker yo
19:48 * cait      waves
19:49 bag         happy birthday pianohacker
19:49 cait        Happy birthday pianohacker!
19:50 magnuse     happy birthday pianohacker!
19:50 * magnuse   knuckles bag
19:50 bag         knuckles magnuse
19:50 pianohacker thank you ladies and gents :)
19:51 magnuse     hiya andreashm
19:51 magnuse     pianohacker: getting very close to the end of school now too?
19:52 pianohacker magnuse: so close... about a month
19:53 magnuse     ah hang in there then :-)
19:54 mtompset    What no embarrassing topic change telling us that it is pianohacker's birthday?! :P
20:00 andreashm   hi magnuse
20:01 andreashm   and others
20:02 * andreashm is slow at reading tonight, apparently
20:02 andreashm   happy b-day pianohacker
20:02 pianohacker thanks andreashm  :)
20:13 rangi       morning
20:13 magnuse     evening
20:14 cait        morning
20:16 rangi       happy birthday pianohacker, what are you like 16 now? :)
20:16 pianohacker rangi: oh yeah, getting on in years
20:16 pianohacker will have a driver's license before you know it
20:18 rangi       heh
20:44 rangi       where in the world is carmen today?
20:44 carmen      Why hello rangi  :)
20:45 carmen      in the cold cold state of NJ , USA  bleh lol
20:45 rangi       heh
20:45 rangi       @wunder nzwn
20:45 huginn`     rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on April 10, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
20:45 rangi       its not that pleasant here today either
20:46 cdickinson  sure doesn't feel 17°C on Cuba Street
20:48 Dyrcona     @wunder 01845
20:48 huginn`     Dyrcona: The current temperature in WB1CHU, Lawrence, Massachusetts is 2.8°C (4:47 PM EDT on April 09, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
20:53 Dyrcona     Still yesterday here...
21:20 wizzyrea    hm, to me it seems warm but humid and it's raining. The wind's out of the north, which is an improvement on yesterday imo.
22:10 eythian     hi
22:10 eythian     wizzyrea: expect it to change later today, I think
22:12 wizzyrea    that's fine, I have a jacket ^.^
22:46 oa10712     Does anyone know where the information is stored for auto-incrementation of barcodes? I turned the feature on, but the numbering started at 85391773728. I want to reset the count, but am unable to locate it in the SQL database.
22:47 wizzyrea    it looks at the highest barcode and adds one
22:48 rangi       it gets messed up if you have barcodes that contain things other than just digits
22:48 oa10712     I don't have any copies in the system yet, so it still seems a bit odd.
22:49 cait        oa10712: it normally looks at the highest existing barcode
22:49 cait        select max(barcode) from items or so
22:50 oa10712     Ok, thanks. I'l try messing around with a test system and see if I can get it to work
22:53 wizzyrea    what's not working about it?
23:12 dcook       Oh the joys of barcoding
23:12 eythian     It beats bardcoding.
23:12 eythian     I assume
23:12 eythian     I don't actually know what that is
23:12 dcook       hehe
23:12 dcook       Oh, that reminds me..
23:12 dcook       pianohacker: are you still around?
23:16 wizzyrea    i heard pianohacker was having a pretty stressful few weeks, don't know why exactly but maybe has to do with the end of school
23:16 dcook       Nah, that can't be it
23:16 dcook       Actually, as much as I occasionally miss the flexibility of student life, the lack of student stress is pretty awesome
23:17 dcook       Mind you, the relief high you get when the term is over is also pretty awesome
23:20 eythian     so is the drunk you get when you hand in your thesis.
23:20 dcook       hehe
23:20 dcook       Student booze was great
23:22 dcook       Ahhh, I think I just discovered my indexing problem
23:22 dcook       Yay Java...
23:23 dcook       Nope, no solution. Still not working..
23:41 TGoat       Koha can you help? - Question from a curious Pakistani Koha user. I know Koha has supported right-to-left languages for a while, but I'm wondering what experience the community has with programming anything for these languages.  We sometimes encounter a problem with Farsi titles not displaying correctly or something like that.  Has the community had experiences with making fixes with R-L languages?
23:42 wizzyrea    TGoat: talk to druthb about that
23:42 TGoat       thanks wizzyrea :D