Time  Nick       Message
02:42 eythian    http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Koha_on_Debian <-- cdickinson
02:43 cdickinson Sweet, thanks
02:46 * wizzyrea wonders if dcook made it to the sydneyside wellington thingerdoodle
02:52 dcook      Nopes :(
02:52 dcook      I just wrapped up some training a little under an hour ago
02:52 dcook      And it's 30 minutes one way to that thang :/
02:52 dcook      Really tempted to go after work though
02:52 dcook      Although it's horribly out of the way :p
02:56 wizzyrea   maybe we'll just have to send you a wellington care package.
02:57 dcook      :D
02:57 dcook      yes!
02:57 dcook      I like this idea :)
02:57 dcook      Hmm, if my cat food delivery arrives this afternoon, that would save me an errand and give me more time for the thingerdoodle as well..
02:59 eythian    we're all heading to beer now.
02:59 eythian    later
03:00 dcook      Enjoy your beers!
03:00 dcook      Thanks again for the tip today, wizzyrea :)
03:02 dcook      Hmm, I wonder when this "live chat" will actually be live and not just a bot...
03:06 ashimema_  ...
03:07 dcook      Ahh
03:07 dcook      I think that was aleisha_ saying "..." to aleisha :p
03:07 aleisha    huh?
03:08 ashimema   not exactly sure why I became _ in the first place there.
03:15 dcook      Probably just got knocked off the network at some point
03:15 dcook      Let's see if my delivery has been mucked up
03:15 dcook      Wait a minute...
03:15 dcook      Isn't it crazy early in the UK right now?
03:15 dcook      4:15am
03:15 dcook      Why are you awake my good ashimema?
03:15 ashimema   baby won't sleep
03:16 ashimema   so i thought I'd try to work out where we're using DBIx::Connector
03:16 ashimema   thus far I'm drawing a blank.. I was looking for inspiration to use in another app ;)
03:17 dcook      Ahh, fair enough ;)
03:18 dcook      DBIx::Connector... doesn't sound familiar
03:23 ashimema   it's in the dependancies..
03:23 ashimema   but I cna't find any mention of it's use anywhere.
03:23 ashimema   mwah.. perhaps dic uses it natively..
03:23 ashimema   mwah.. perhaps dbic uses it natively..
03:23 dcook      Probably
03:23 dcook      Funny it would be listed in the dependancies though if that's the case :S
03:24 dcook      Mind you, the dependancy list can be a bit funny sometimes
03:24 dcook      Oh man... so I just got cat food delivered to my office. I don't know if I could be any more of a librarian stereotype.
03:24 dcook      Maybe if I put my hair in a bun...
03:24 ashimema   lol
03:26 ashimema   you have a office...
03:26 ashimema   my cat spends most of his day in my 'office'.. watches me code
03:27 dcook      hehe
03:27 dcook      My cats are lazy. Occasionally when I'm working in my 'office', one of them will sleep next to me
03:27 dcook      Well, on the futon near me
03:27 dcook      I think they only open their eyes for food and pats
03:28 ashimema   lol.. yup, typical cat
03:58 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
04:02 kivilahtio good mornings #Koha!
04:06 mtompset   Greetings, kivilahtio.
04:06 kivilahtio top of the morning to you as well mtompset
04:07 mtompset   Out of curiosity, has anyone tried to go to the staff client to do a system update instead of running the command line updatadatabase.pl directly on a git system recently?
04:09 mtompset   I'm getting a nasty error, which I ended up determining was a result of the system($cmd) running as the apache2 user and not me.
05:31 cait       mtompset: bug 13876
05:31 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13876 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Permission issues on updating via installer - dev installations
05:32 mtompset   Thanks cait.
06:26 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
06:28 marcelr    hi #koha
06:31 cait       morning marcelr
06:31 marcelr    :)
06:31 marcelr    cait: i will not be able to do much on april 10
06:32 cait       i saw
06:32 cait       i think we need to start about freeze days soon too
06:32 marcelr    i guess tomas should send a mail about that
06:32 cait       yeah, i will ask him if they are set yet
06:33 cait       marcelr: i will see how the feedback from the others is - maybe we can do a second one or push to the later date
06:33 marcelr    yes first hear the others
06:36 cait       marcelr: also trying to stick to your rule lately :) with the exception that i look at some bugs first
06:37 marcelr    there will always be exceptions :)
06:43 cait       ok, bbiab
06:55 drojf      morning #koha
07:05 alex_a     bonjour
07:05 wahanui    salut, alex_a
07:08 fridolin   saluyt
07:08 fridolin   heu, bonjour I mean
07:39 gaetan_B   hello
07:53 ashimema   morning
08:00 alex_a     happy birthday matts !!!!
08:01 matts      thanks alex_a :)
08:09 nlegrand   Hiya #Koha
08:22 drojf      happy birthday matts :)
08:22 matts      thanks :)
09:00 * cait     waves
09:03 cdickinson eythian, not sure if you're alive but that updated guide helped a lot, got it working at home
09:06 cait       hm bug 12616
09:06 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12616 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Locale in subscriptions should not default to English when empty
09:08 cait       or more... bug 12616
09:45 drojf      hi cait
09:47 cait       hi drojf
09:47 cait       no idea about beda's problem
09:48 drojf      i suppose he did not change the index files correctly
09:49 drojf      just sent a longish mail about that
09:50 drojf      would explain the 0 for linked biblios and the non-working index
11:41 cait       drojf++
11:41 cait       sorry had a long webinar
11:54 drojf      oh nice it worked for him :)
11:54 drojf      even though i made a mistake in the example ;)
11:55 cait       bug 13943 - grump!
11:55 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13943 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cancelling the deletion process of an item deletes item anyway
11:55 drojf      ugh
11:56 cait       the funny thing is... i can't make it happen, but the library can
11:56 drojf      :(
11:56 cait       i saw it happen
11:56 * cait     hates bugs like this
12:01 drojf      can't reproduce it. there is no reload when i hit cancel
12:01 drojf      local js?
12:01 cait       nthing that hits buttons... and it would happen for me too?
12:02 drojf      hm
12:06 cait       khall++ # one of our libraries just loves the course reserves module
12:09 misilot    i had a question about bug 13507, if CAS is enabled for the intranet, will it still allow local logins? Or would all accounts have to be CAS based? Not sure if I should ask on the bug report or not, so starting here :)
12:09 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Passed QA , Add intranet support for CAS authentication
12:29 ashimema   misilot, I've not yet looked at the patch, but I'd imagine that it's like CAS for OPAC.. so allows for local fallbacks.
12:29 misilot    ashimema: ok thanks
12:29 ashimema   When I get rond to completing the shibboleth on staff side patch on the other hand.. that will be configurable via a syspref as to whether it should allow fallback or not.
12:30 ashimema   I don't know if CAS comes under the same constraints as shibboleth for fallback though..  Shibboleth just falls over if the IdP disappears... I have a feeling CAS is initiated at the service side and so it's less of an issue
12:30 ashimema   but that's another question alltogether
12:31 * ashimema should really start looking at the auth patches again.. he's falling a long way behind of late.
12:31 * ashimema is a bad module maintainer..
12:31 misilot    ashimema: possibly. When we loose access to one of our CAS servers and the Load balancer doesn't detect it, it usuall falls over at least for PHP applications we use it for
12:33 ashimema   Whats the cycle of events in CAS.. is there a redirect like in Shibboleth?
12:33 ashimema   the issue with shibboleth is that your directed away from the service provider to do the authentication..
12:33 ashimema   if your auth then fails for any reason you are note redirected back to the service provider.. so the user disapears into a black whole..
12:34 ashimema   there's no way for the service provider to detect the failed attempt and fallback..
12:34 misilot    ashimema: yes, that is the same with CAS
12:34 misilot    as you will stay at the login page for CAS until you authenticate correctly
12:34 ashimema   oh really.. I thought in CAS you initiated the connection from the service provider and passed credentials..
12:34 ashimema   if your passing the credentials you can detect a failure or timeout and fallback internally.
12:35 ashimema   they've both got the same unfortunate issues then.
12:35 misilot    say site is site1.example.tld ->(Requires CAS) -> redirected to https://cas.example.tld/cas/login?service=http://site1.example.tld where you enter your credentials, and if you succeed you get redirected to the service
12:35 ashimema   I was tempted to add a 'detect IdP' piece into koha for shibboleth
12:36 misilot    with attributes and user information in the session variables
12:36 misilot    at least with PHP
12:36 ashimema   I already have to do something like that for another customer.. but it's a really nasty hack.. I basically attempt to load an image
12:36 ashimema   very much along the same lines as shibboleth then.
12:36 ashimema   thanks misilot.. that's helped with my undertsanding no end :)
12:37 misilot    ashimema: no problem :) I am trying to get shibboleth implemented where I am, as it will allow me to not have to use LDAP for some services that have a Shibboleth module
12:37 misilot    that way I can still keep SSO
12:37 ashimema   sounds good..
12:37 ashimema   koha can do both.. which is nice.. gives you the options..
12:38 ashimema   does single log out work with CAS?
12:38 ashimema   I know it's a real bug bear in the shibboleth world..
12:38 ashimema   most providers don't support it well
12:41 misilot    ashimema: I haven't tried CAS with Koha yet (not sure where you specify settings to try it (ie: attribute mapping)) but Single logout for some of other applications it does work, though I think it's more the applications themselves aren't checking back to see if the CAS session is still valid
12:41 ashimema   Yeah.. that's pretty much the same issue with Shibboleth..
12:41 kivilahtio yay for a 4-day weekend
12:41 ashimema   the client applications themselves aren't very good at realising there's a logout happened.
12:42 ashimema   koha does attempt to do single logout.. it sends the right massages.. but a large number of IdP's just don't accept them..
12:42 ashimema   so although you've done your logout, you'll imediately get logged back in as the IdP hasn't changes the session state at it's end..
12:43 ashimema   which is a shame
12:43 ashimema   anyone out there using aracni to pen test ?
12:44 ashimema   sorry arachni
12:50 nengard    morning #koha
12:51 leif       good morning
12:59 * cait     waves
12:59 * cait     hands drojf some cookies
13:00 cait       safe ones of course
13:03 drojf      awww :)
13:03 drojf      thanks
13:18 nlegrand   I added a script to try to reproduce Bug 13933
13:18 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601)
13:19 nlegrand   argh
13:19 nlegrand   wrong bug
13:20 nlegrand   argh I'm sorry, is there a way to clean this
13:20 nlegrand   ?
13:22 drojf      nlegrand: details of your attachment, edit details, check 'obsolete'
13:22 drojf      you can't delete though (afaik)
13:25 nlegrand   drojf: thanks.. at least it won't show at first sight...
13:26 cait       nlegrand: it happens more often than you'd think
13:26 cait       don't worry :)
13:26 nlegrand   so, I added a script to try to reproduce Bug 13810...
13:26 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13810 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Prevent updatedatabase.pl from breaking because of case insensitive utf8 collation
13:27 nlegrand   cait: ^^'
13:30 cait       sorry, can't check it right now :(
13:36 nlegrand   cait: ho no problem :) this was my grateful but still a bit ashamed look -> ^^'
13:37 cait       numbers are not my thing - i get the bug numbers wrong often :)
13:52 khall      cait et al, looking for input on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13944
13:52 huginn     04Bug 13944: minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Fund sorting is inconsistent across different parts of Koha
13:56 cait       hm commented
14:12 khall      cait: thanks!
14:12 khall      also cait, can you look at bug 13945? I'd swear I filed a patch for this but I cannot find it
14:12 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13945 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Multiple dialogs for item that needs transferred and hold captured at checkin
14:15 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
14:17 mtompset   git grep "=\s*GetBiblio("
14:17 mtompset   bug 10906
14:17 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10906 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Needs Signoff , Reimported records into Koha are imported only as DEFAULT frameworks, not what they were originally
14:17 * mtompset cries that serials/subscription-history.pl has similar bug.
14:18 cait       khall: not right now sorry
14:18 cait       have to leave soon and still so much to do
14:18 khall      k
14:35 cait       bug 13913
14:35 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13913 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Renewal error message in OPAC is not correct
14:35 * cait     has a bug day...
14:49 drojf      gotta go shopping and stuff. see you next week, have a nice holiday if applicable
15:27 mtompset   nengard: Could confirm that bug 11064 is a duplicate for bug 10906?
15:27 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11064 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , batch import ignoring framework choice
15:27 nengard    bug 11064
15:27 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10906 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Signed Off , Reimported records into Koha are imported only as DEFAULT frameworks, not what they were originally
15:29 nengard    there they are - checking now
15:29 xok        hello...
15:29 xok        I carefully followed instructions from this page: wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.10_on_Centos_6.3_x86_64_en
15:29 nengard    actually there is a slight difference - but it might be the same bug. 11064 is that it's not letting you choose the framework on importing the other implies that it's hoping the framework will stay what it was before the match was overlaid
15:29 xok        now I am trying to run a software from the web and I get some errors...
15:30 xok        http://i.imgur.com/nn6YfXN.png
15:30 xok        these are the problems...
15:30 xok        can any one help me figure out what to do?..
15:30 xok        thanks in advance...
15:32 mtompset   xok: Are you trying to update?
15:32 xok        no clean installation...
15:33 mtompset   Hmmm... You might want to check if you have the correct koha-conf.xml password?
15:35 mtompset   I'd bug Indranil Das Gupta, because that so looks like a problem he had a while back which was a cut and paste of passwords incorrectly.
15:35 mtompset   But he's not on the channel or visible online right now.
15:36 mtompset   or even SQL password.
15:37 xok        sql password works fine...
15:37 xok        I just checked it...
15:37 mtompset   can it read the DB?
15:37 mtompset   did you run a SELECT * from systempreferences?
15:38 xok        no tables are there unfortunately...
15:41 mtompset   set NAMES 'utf8'; runs?
15:41 xok        yeah, I am able to connect to the mysql...
15:41 xok        I have to say I am not a new to the linux world...
15:42 xok        I do know it pretty well...
15:42 mtompset   Sorry. Don't know then.
15:42 mtompset   I have to run too.
15:42 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
19:04 misilot    Hi, I am trying to change the link that for the "Title" in Hold's to Pull. I was able to find the pendingreserves.tt file, which references biblio-default-view.inc at Line 116. When I go to the biblio-default-view.inc from what I can tell it should display the detail.pl link instead of the MARCdetail.pl since "BiblioDefaultViewmarc" isn't set anywhere that I can tell in the pendingreserves.tt or pendingreserves.pl any ideas? Thanks :)
19:24 gaetan_B   hi misilot, if you change anything in the templates directly (which is what you are trying to do right now) your change will be lost when you update koha
19:24 gaetan_B   everytime you update koha ;)
19:25 gaetan_B   the good way to work around this when it really is a requirement is to change the text on the fly with javascript
19:25 misilot    gaetan_B: I was going to submit a patch once I figured out why it is showing the MARCdetail instead of detail
19:25 gaetan_B   you can find a couple examples here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
19:26 gaetan_B   maybe i don't get what you are trying to do then
19:27 gaetan_B   i thought you were trying to change the way something is labeled in the interface
19:28 gaetan_B   anyway, time to leave the computer here, good luck with your patch :)
19:28 misilot    gaetan_B: trying to change a link in the interface
20:04 DisneyDave Hello!
20:04 DisneyDave Does Koha has a web service API that enables check-out and check-in?  I want to write a macro to automate checkins and checkouts without writing direct to the database.
20:06 bag        heya DisneyDave - there is a bunch of work on restful apis right now
20:07 DisneyDave Thanks @bag!
20:07 bag        DisneyDave: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/New_REST_API_RFC
20:07 cdickinson ninja'd
20:07 DisneyDave I have an RFID checkin system which sends me a CSF report with user ID, user name, item and item ID
20:07 bag        so DisneyDave you’ll find tons of useful info there and you should be to dig around in current Koha to find what you need
20:07 DisneyDave I'd love to write a macro to check the items in and out without writing to the database
20:08 DisneyDave Ok, thanks @bag