Time Nick Message 04:17 eythian hi 04:19 eythian @later tell magnuse it's not really my baby at the moment, I think rangi was looking at it a while ago, unsure of the status 04:19 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 06:03 nihad hi 07:05 alex_a bonjour 07:08 p_vdk yop = 07:36 gaetan_B hello 07:47 cait morning all 07:48 atheia morning cait! 07:49 nlegrand Hiya #koha 07:56 Joubu Good morning #koha 09:54 Joubu patrons search using the checkout tab is broken, I'm working on it 10:08 Joubu patch on bug 13936 10:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab 11:00 carmen Good morning everyone 12:08 cait hi carmen :) 12:08 carmen hello Cait :D 12:14 Joubu cait: "it's not functional" on bug 9083, you meant even for overdue and adv notices 12:14 Joubu ? 12:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9083 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<items.content>> in checkin/checkout notices does nothing 12:15 cait Joubu: ah no, just it appears on the left side when you create a notice, when you can't use it 12:15 cait but not sure we can fix that, as the notices are all in the circulation module 12:15 Joubu yes, that's the problem 12:15 cait i had a library asking i think, why not all of the displayed options worked 12:15 cait you are commenting on really old bugs, hard to remember! :) 12:16 cait i think it would be nice to clean all that up one day... so we use the <item> syntax everywhere as it's the most flexible 12:16 cait but... yeah 12:16 Joubu yes... one day :) 12:16 Joubu I don't have a quick and easy solution for this one, sorry 12:16 cait it's ok 12:17 cait your work no the old bugs is much appreciated! 12:18 Joubu a lot of these bugs have been quickly fixed :) 12:18 Joubu too bad to have let them not fixed for so long 12:18 Joubu lunch time, bbl 12:18 cait yeah, but we concentrate on the 'now' -- and now i am happy they are getting fixed :) 12:18 cait enjoy! 12:29 tcohen morning 12:30 tcohen @later tell rangi yup, i don't think it is worth a forced git push at all 12:30 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:31 tcohen hi Joubu 13:06 khall looking for feedback on bug 13937 13:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Add a 'primary status' field for items 13:29 Joubu Hi tcohen 13:30 Joubu Have you seen the critical bug I have opened few hours ago? 13:30 tcohen hi Joubu 13:31 tcohen i didn't Joubu 13:32 Joubu tcohen: bug 13936 13:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13936 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Fix patrons search on using the checkout tab 13:33 Joubu tcohen: and last comments on bug 13894 13:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Members::Search - reserve.pl 13:36 khall hey all, has anyone seen an issue with Koha 3.18.04 where you can no longer import marc records through the staging tool? I've seen this on two separate servers 13:36 khall it's happening because the AutoCommit isn't on and $dbh->commit() never gets called 13:37 khall and yet it works just fine on my test server! 13:38 khall you can get around it by always choosing a matcher 13:39 khall this seems like *serious* bug 13:41 Joubu khall: I suppose your test server uses the same version? 13:41 Joubu khall: Did you compare DBI and DBIX::Class version? 13:41 khall right, but it's usually on master and I just checked out v3.18.04 13:41 khall interesting idea, I'll take a look! 13:42 tcohen Joubu: I'm in the middle of a DSpace disaster recovery 13:43 Joubu tcohen: arg, so good luck :) 13:51 khall Joubu: no difference in the DBI or DBIC module versions 13:53 Joubu khall: Did you try to import exactly the same file? 13:53 khall yes, every time 13:53 khall on both servers 13:53 khall and it works fine if you choose a matching rule 13:53 Joubu It remembers me an issue with the size of the file 13:53 khall but fails to commit if you don't 13:53 khall I've been using this file for years now, got it from cait 13:54 Joubu ha, it was bug 8970, but it was Plack related 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack 13:55 Joubu khall: the issue occurs on production servers I suppose? 13:55 khall yes 13:55 Joubu It would be good to try to revert 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e just to know if it is the one to blame 13:55 Joubu But not a good idea on a production server :) 13:57 khall one is production, one is test, I can try that 13:59 khall Joubu: you were bang on, reverting 750a9ec97cbc44c6d1d8a6c595019cee7d96ef8e fixes it! 13:59 khall I was already beginning to suspect bug 8970 from the commit history 13:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack 14:00 khall this confirms it 14:00 Joubu erk, too bad :-/ 14:01 khall to seems to me that if we just added: 14:02 khall else { $dbh->commit(); } at line 159 on stage-marc-import.pl it would fix it 14:02 cait khall, Joubu - as i have you around... should we try and do a qa sprint or something sometime soon? 14:02 khall I don't know what the implications are though 14:03 khall cait, sure! Fridays are always good for me 14:03 cait hm this friday is a holiday here - maybe next? 14:04 cait how could we organize, like a bug squash? or put a list on the wiki for grabbing... google doc? open to any and all ideas :) 14:04 cait i got a long weekend to tinker with some things 14:05 Joubu khall: We will need to try with Plack 14:05 Joubu cait: yes, good idea 14:06 khall Joubu: yes, that works. I'll file a bug report and patch 14:06 cait Joubu: would friday 10th work? 14:06 khall I don't have a plack environment to test on though 14:08 Joubu cait: sounds good 14:08 Joubu anyway, I will try to do some QA next week 14:08 cait ok, will send out an email to gather some ideas soonish 14:10 Joubu There is a blocker in the QA queue, see bug 13933 14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , t/DateUtils.t causes the build to break (from bug 13601) 14:11 Joubu khall: don't forget to link the new one with 8970 14:11 khall will do! 14:11 khall Joubu: I can qa 13933 14:12 Joubu khall: I am sure eythian will tell you thank you :) 14:13 khall http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13938 14:13 huginn 04Bug 13938: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Staging MARC records for import fails 14:18 cait library asking for a checkin slip... :( 16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13933: Fix t/DateUtils.t without DB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85a0f6a42f64227021986ee95a8b19e0eed5702d> / Bug 9580: DBRev 3.19.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3c404a67b9b0faf88d3ee259dbf8c91ad401809> / Bug 9580: (QA followup) add a Coce syspref and fix options for Providers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ad 17:02 gaetan_B bye 17:05 tcohen anyone, bug 13909 please? 17:05 tcohen :-D 17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13909 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , _debar_user_on_return doesn't honour finesCalendar 17:18 barton @seen oleonard 17:18 huginn barton: oleonard was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. 17:18 barton dang, what happened to owen?? 17:47 khall I feel this to be true, your milage may vary http://img.pandawhale.com/post-18529-Peter-Griffin-blinds-CSS-gif-I-lEO1.gif 19:19 nengard can anyone tell me for the manual what email address emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced uses? 19:19 nengard is it the patron's branch it uses to pick an email to send to? 20:08 wizzyrea afaict it's the branch email 20:08 wizzyrea er that may not be right it may be the kohaadmin 20:08 wizzyrea because that setting isn't per branch. 20:09 wizzyrea my $branch_details = C4::Branch::GetBranchDetail($borrower->{branchcode}); 20:10 wizzyrea patron's branch 20:10 wizzyrea nengard ^ 20:41 misilot I know Hard Due Date exists, but is there a duedate setting that will only allow checkouts to happen before this date? We in the past had a hard due date (which seems to be a different idea in Koha). We usually set the max an item could be checked out to the end of the semester, and kept changing every semester. As well as they can't have a due date past their expiration date. We haven't hit the expiration date, but wanted to see if there was a simple 20:41 misilot answer without having to go edit some accounts and check out and checkin a bunch of items. 20:48 cait misilot: which version of Koha? 20:48 wahanui which version of Koha are you using? 20:48 misilot 3.16 20:48 cait did you notice the 3 settings on the pull down for the hard due date in the circulation conditions? 20:49 cait I think if you set it to before 20:49 cait that should do it 20:49 cait it will calculate the due date regularly... as long as it's before that date 20:50 cait the date limits the due date... when it would fall after, it still ends on this date 20:50 misilot ah, ok thanks cait that makes sense 20:50 misilot thank you 20:51 cait np - we don't use it, but it should work :) 20:51 misilot If the expiration date is before the hard due date or any due date, shorten the checkout to that date? 20:52 cait hm do you mean the exipration date on the patron account? 20:52 cait date expiry for the card? 20:52 misilot yes 20:52 cait there is a sys pref for the behaviour there 20:53 cait it will either allow the due date to fall behind the expiry date 20:53 cait or force the loan period to shorten - stop at the expiry date 20:53 cait ReturnBeforeExpiry 20:54 misilot thank you 21:07 eythian hi 21:07 wahanui kia ora, eythian 21:09 eythian yay! virtual friday! 21:11 cait holiday on friday? :) 21:16 eythian cait: 4-day weekend, yeah 21:16 cait same here 21:16 cait really looking forward to it 21:17 eythian yeah. Unfortunately the weather is good, so I'll feel slightly bad about sitting in playing games and watching movies. 21:18 cait heh 21:18 cait we got what we call 'april weather' here 21:18 cait it means ' anything can happen' 21:18 cait today it was a mix of sun, rain and hail 21:19 eythian heh. Our summer is being surprisingly extended. The occasional storm to mix it up, but mostly mild. 21:19 eythian @wunder nzwn 21:19 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on April 02, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 21:27 wizzyrea yeah, it took a long time to get here, and now it's taking a long time to go 21:28 wizzyrea note: Totally *not* complaining. 21:28 cait the hail decided to happen when we were outside on the way to lunch ... some o fit at laest 21:29 wizzyrea yowch. 22:07 rangi hey cdickinson 22:07 rangi <-- chris 22:07 cdickinson Hiya 22:07 cdickinson I'm Callum :P 22:07 rangi http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-your-own-gpg-key.html 22:07 rangi id go for 4096 22:08 rangi eythian: do we like dsa or rsa these days? 22:08 eythian I think whatever the default is is fine 22:08 eythian mine is RSA, but it's done in hardware. 22:08 cdickinson Okay, cool 22:09 eythian https://we.riseup.net/riseuplabs+paow/openpgp-best-practices <-- apparently RSA, but I don't think it matters overly 22:09 * cait waves and heads off to bed 22:10 cdickinson would it be alright if I let the key be valid indefinitely, or do I need to change it occasionally? 22:11 rangi its kinda good practice to expiry it every few years, but i leave my valid, and then create a revocation certificate, so i can revoke it and make a new one 22:12 wizzyrea dcook: http://www.wellingtonnz.com/australia/wellington-whirlwind?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=wellingtonwhirlwind&utm_campaign=social_apr2015 22:12 dcook O_O 22:12 wizzyrea ^ I expect you to get yourself some of those 22:12 cdickinson Ah, okay 22:12 wizzyrea ^.^ 22:12 dcook Alas, I don't know how that's going to be possible :( 22:12 eythian you can also renew the expiry 22:12 dcook Heading to Melbourne tomorrow and I have at least 3 things on the to do list for this evening 22:13 eythian I'd recommend having it for ~5 years, that way if you lose control of it, it'll stop being valid eventually 22:13 rangi good point 22:13 wizzyrea that's good, because it ends at 6pm :P 22:14 * dcook noticed eythian's expiry the other day when looking at his own keyring :p 22:15 dcook wizzyrea: I'm thinking maybe a long lunch is in order 22:15 wizzyrea that's the spirit. 22:15 eythian my current one doesn't expire because it's in a yubikey and so it's not necessary. 22:15 eythian I can issue revocations for it though 22:18 dcook Makes sense 22:18 dcook I think I'm finally going to buy a yubikey :p 22:18 dcook If I don't use some overseas accounts, I think I get fined, so I may as well buy something useful 22:20 dcook wizzyrea: Any recommendations out of that list? 22:22 wizzyrea there isn't anything bad in it. :) 22:22 wizzyrea chocolate though never hurts. 22:22 wizzyrea (it's our best stuff, it's why we sent it!) 22:29 cdickinson okay, cool, took a while for the RNG to get into gear but done 22:30 dcook wizzyrea: Sweet. Thanks :) 22:48 eythian yay, master builds again. New packages up. 22:49 dcook :D 23:13 dcook Nothing like customizing a MARC Bibliographic Framework to make you remember how many MARC tags there are 23:13 dcook It seems like there's a field for everything! 23:14 dcook Well, except for useful stuff of course. 23:14 dcook But you better believe there is an Awards Note