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21:23 eythian hi
21:19 * cait waves
21:16 * wizzyrea waves
20:07 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 10.0°C (10:06 PM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
20:07 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:38 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
19:38 cait @later tell rangi bug 13930
18:15 Krixvar It seems that its always writing to /var/spool/koha regardless of different --output options
18:03 Krixvar Hey all, having some issues with the backup command - it works great to the default location but I can't get it to save to another directory
17:23 tcohen bye #koha
16:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9120: Prevent form submission on adding tags - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fa67b2f83f418df0923caaeec444b6a8f728b21> / Bug 11982 - Images now display properly in the details section. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a4a91aef3ecaacdf3d01dc358f9486b96fba705> / Bug 11982 - Fixed the amazon no image icon. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
16:34 tcohen hi gmcharlt
16:34 tcohen ouch
16:31 gmcharlt (so that we don't inundate the library - I sent an email to that library that had sent a password to the Koha mailing list rather than the intended patron)
16:30 tcohen thanks
16:27 Joubu tcohen: sent to the NSO queue
16:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , KOHAVERSION should be statically set
16:26 Joubu tcohen: bug 13758?
16:24 tcohen Joubu: what is the status of the kohaversion patch?
16:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5786: Correction: Removed erroneous holdability check from opac-search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac5130c57cd95a8b030534bf62861cc565edd3f9> / Bug 11900 - OPAC cart can confuse patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53ac1adeaf8ed7a76ecda2c60c77268efe0e6065> / Bug 13894: Fix if the search returns only 1 result <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
15:48 nengard joubu++
15:31 Joubu khall: that's good to know ;)
15:31 nengard :)
15:31 cait nengard: agreed about hte pref
15:31 nengard LOL
15:30 khall wait, what have I volunteered for? ; )
15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add additional sound options for warnings
15:30 Joubu tcohen: Bug 11431 [4] - Add additional sound options
15:29 wahanui hmmm... khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;)
15:29 tcohen khall?
15:29 tcohen ok
15:29 Joubu tcohen: no idea
15:29 wahanui i guess which one is that? The fixed navbar?
15:29 tcohen which one?
15:29 Joubu tcohen: it's already done by another patch, but not pushed yet
15:29 Joubu tcohen: actually I just pass a parameter to the search method
15:28 Joubu tcohen: yes
15:27 cait tcohen: Joubu: maybe it could be fixed? I think it used to work - should give you a calendar file for your checkouts
15:26 tcohen it changes Koha::Objects ?
15:26 tcohen Joubu: 13892
15:26 cait The 'day' parameter ("23T23") to DateTime::new did not pass the 'an integer which is a possible valid day of month' callback at /usr/lib/perl5/DateTime.pm line 199 DateTime::new(undef, 'day', '23T23', 'month', 04, 'year', 2015, 'hour', 9, ...) called at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-ics.pl line 66
15:25 cait it's broken
15:25 cait oh
15:25 cait isn't that the calendar thing for your checkouts?
15:24 cait hm i think it still owkrs
15:21 tcohen hi Joubu
15:18 tcohen nope
15:15 Joubu Does someone know if opac/opac-ics.pl is still in used?
15:14 fridolin see u
14:37 nengard will test after off the phone
14:33 Joubu nengard: new patch sent
14:32 nengard let me know when you're done and i'll test again
14:32 nengard whew :)
14:31 Joubu no, it was me :)
14:30 nengard so it wasn't me?? :)
14:30 Joubu nengard: ok got it
14:29 Joubu I gonna check the code again
14:29 Joubu nengard: Maybe there is a check somewhere with another permissions
14:27 nengard so it's the default FA
14:27 nengard it's a fresh install
14:26 Joubu hum, weird
14:26 nengard it is FA
14:26 nengard Joubu you saw my video right? maybe it's something to do with other permissions? or something to do with marc21?
14:26 Joubu Could you confirm the frameworkcode for your "Fast Add Framework" is "FA"?
14:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7561 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , cannot fast catalog with fast cataloging permissions
14:25 Joubu nengard: Hi, I confirm you bug 7561 works for me... :-/
13:37 cait hm could someone confirm if html predue notices work in 3.18? or anything above 3.12.6 really?
13:24 cait hmm looking for a bug about html notices and advanced notices...
13:05 tcohen morning Joubu
13:04 cait maybe Joubu knows - i think it's a 'french' feature
13:04 cait tcohen: hm not sure - we don't use suspension days around here
13:04 cait wow
13:03 tcohen (first time)
13:03 * tcohen grilled a full lamb last saturday
13:03 * magnuse wanders off to re-heat yesterdays roasted leg of lamb
13:02 tcohen i need to understand the desired logic fr suspension days calculation when using hourly loans
13:02 tcohen anyone familiar with suspension days?
12:56 magnuse kinda hello, then ;-)
12:55 cait kinda back
12:55 cait hi all
12:55 ashimema_ cait!
12:54 magnuse i think cait is ignoring us
12:41 tcohen hi francharb
12:41 francharb good morning tcohen
12:40 tcohen hi cait
12:28 magnuse kia ora cait
12:28 magnuse well, look who's here!
12:25 tcohen oh, so I missed her
12:25 huginn tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 45 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <cait> @later tell khall could you take a look at bug 13380 please? it has a database update fix for master
12:25 tcohen @seen cait
12:23 magnuse wandering randomly about, looking for the API discussion?
12:21 wahanui cait is lookign forward to the API discussion
12:21 tcohen where is cait?
12:20 magnuse kia ora tcohen
12:19 tcohen momrning
12:16 magnuse sophie_m: ah
12:15 sophie_m magnuse: ^
12:15 sophie_m only monday after Easter is off in France. And school holidays that used to be on Easter are now often later (begining of May for us in Marseille this year)
12:10 magnuse ooh, ashimema_ got the cloning to work!
12:10 magnuse s/nots/lots/
12:10 magnuse nots of people take wednesday off to, which is what i am going to do
12:09 magnuse in norway half of wednesday is a day off for most people, as well as thursday, friday and monday
12:08 magnuse glad påsk!
12:07 Viktor Kia ora Magnuse
12:07 magnuse kia ora Viktor
12:07 magnuse sophie_m: huh?
12:05 sophie_m in France easter holidays are not on Easter :)
12:04 * magnuse is just busy
12:04 magnuse people might be off on their easter holidays?
12:04 magnuse in norway too
11:59 sophie_m In France we've lost one hour sleep last night ashimema
11:53 meliss Yes, it seems to be very quiet today.
11:50 ashimema it's quiet in here today
10:11 nlegrand :)
10:10 drojf looks like library germany left for holidays
10:08 mveron hi drojf :-)
10:08 drojf hi mveron
10:07 mveron droif++
10:07 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 7.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
10:07 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:06 * drojf feels loved
10:05 Sherbs thank you
10:04 Sherbs and it works, i love you internet!
10:04 Sherbs digital ocean instruction file... i am appolying the same steps to my koha instance.conf
10:01 drojf where did you find that?
10:01 Sherbs is there instructions on how to add the ssl data to that file? all the info i have found so far is just about adding to default-ssl?
09:59 drojf you should put that in the /etc/apache2/sites-available/yourkohainstance.conf file instead
09:57 Sherbs so i disabled that, but i was editing the default ssl file to enable the ssl connection to my staff access port?
09:54 drojf or have a look at /etc/apache2/sites-available to see what it is called
09:54 drojf try 'sudo a2dissite default-ssl'
09:53 Sherbs how do i do that? i'm fairly new to this linux world..
09:53 drojf Sherbs: disable the default ssl site
09:52 Sherbs i dont know what to replace this file with to allow the https connection to connect through to my koha install
09:52 Sherbs i have followed all the instructions i can find but when i connect only shows my the apache2 default page, telling me to " You should replace this file (located at /var/www/html/index.html) before continuing to operate your HTTP server.
09:51 Sherbs hello. looking for help setting up https for my koha install
09:37 magnuse ah
09:36 mveron magnuse: ...but rather wet and rainy :-)
09:35 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 28.94 in 980 hPa (Steady).
09:35 magnuse @wunder boo
09:35 magnuse 11!
09:35 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 11.0°C (11:30 AM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
09:35 magnuse in norwegian, that is short for "his/her royal highness" :-)
09:35 mveron @wunder Allschwil
09:31 mveron Welcome hkh!
09:16 magnuse yup, that was quite a long chain of deps...
08:54 nlegrand art of choosing bugs to sign off
08:54 nlegrand magnuse: ho it depends on a bug that depends on a bug that depends on a bug that depends on a bug that depends on a bug..
08:47 magnuse :-)
08:42 nlegrand magnuse: ho right... Thanks, I thought I looked dependencies, but I was wrong :)
08:42 nlegrand magnuse: ><
08:28 magnuse Koha/Biblio.pm and Koha/Hold.pm are probably introduced by one of the bugs it depends on
08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13851 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Replace waiting holds logic in circulation.pl with Koha Objects
08:28 magnuse if you trace it backwards it depends on Bug 13851
08:28 drojf hei magnuse
08:28 magnuse nlegrand: look at the dependencies on the bug
08:27 magnuse moin drojf
07:57 drojf morning #koha
07:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13918 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add waiting expiration date to opac list of holds for user
07:53 nlegrand I'm a bit puzzled by Bug 13918, patches doesn't apply on Koha src, because I don't have Koha/Biblio.pm and Koha/Hold.pm files, what am I missing?
07:43 nlegrand Hey #koha
07:09 fridolin good morning
07:01 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui bonjour, matts
06:59 matts hi
06:57 mveron hiya magnuse :-)
06:56 magnuse hiya mveron
06:44 mveron Good monday #koha
06:22 * magnuse waves
04:40 dcook :D
04:40 dcook Oh yay... it was just a missing angle bracket
04:38 dcook Well, gotta earn my pay I guess :p
04:37 bag :P
04:36 dcook Nooo not the tag soup again...
02:39 dcook hehe
02:38 * wizzyrea snickers
02:36 eythian Sparticus was Thracian, not Italian.
02:33 dcook I'm Spartacus. No, I'm Spartacus!
02:33 dcook mtj: That is interesting :S
02:33 wizzyrea Wonder if it would be better to use their tech but on the koha-community.org server
02:33 wizzyrea oh the 3.14 one is there.
02:32 wizzyrea pdfs
02:32 wizzyrea also sad trombone, the PDF's seem to be missing.
02:31 wizzyrea it's frickin' huge though
02:31 wizzyrea Also possibly not loading the *entire* thing.
02:31 wizzyrea do not know, a question for bgkriegel or tcohen, I'd reckon.
02:30 eythian I wonder if it compresses it for transport, that'd make a huge difference
02:30 wizzyrea well it makes me laugh. ^.^
02:29 wizzyrea chief poo poo-er
02:29 wizzyrea so, pretty at the expense of speed :P
02:29 eythian yep.
02:29 wizzyrea eythian, poo poo-er that he is, noted it took 22s to wget :P
02:29 wizzyrea haha I said the same thing earlier
02:25 mtj gosh, koha manual is looking nice
02:23 mtj interesting /. -> http://slashdot.org/story/15/03/29/128253/arduino-dispute-reaches-out-to-distributors
01:53 wizzyrea no worries :)
01:53 irma thanks wizzyrea :-(
01:53 wizzyrea (sorry if you are)
01:52 wizzyrea Irma: you in the right channel there?
01:52 irma I usually like to add links to the exact relevant page/s. So for PIA <>
01:51 irma Then the body of the email:
01:51 irma it becomes: [CALYX #1324] PIA : Creating a new shelf location
01:48 eythian all packaging scripts come under packaging, until we get a separate maintainer for them.
01:48 eythian no, that's right
01:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13925 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-restore doesn't start Zebra
01:47 dcook I may have put bug 13925 in the wrong spot... just in a bit of a rush atm
01:47 dcook :)
01:47 eythian dcook: apparently I've changed my mind in the past two years :)
01:47 wizzyrea but for just reinstalling on the same machine better to do it a bit more manually (probably because I bumped into these sorts of things)
01:46 huginn 04Bug 9754: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-remove does not remove the stuff in /var/lib/koha/
01:46 dcook eythian: just noticed this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9754
01:46 wizzyrea my feeling on koha-restore was always "use it for moving to a clean server"
01:46 wizzyrea yarp
01:45 eythian I dunno, those things need a fair bit of love anyway
01:45 eythian possibly
01:45 eythian yeah
01:45 wahanui hmmm... something is sketchy
01:45 wizzyrea or something
01:45 wizzyrea like, it could give those messages, with the caveat "run koha-restore -f to force overwrite
01:45 eythian but, if you're running remove, it's to remove it, generally I think.
01:44 wizzyrea I wouldn't mind a -f to force though
01:44 eythian even if it runs koha-dump with some special file path or something so that it's backed up.
01:44 * wizzyrea feels funny assuming that
01:44 eythian yeah
01:44 eythian but almost everything in there is transient
01:44 wizzyrea it's not removed otherwise.
01:43 wizzyrea well koha-remove should definitely get rid of the stuff in /var/lib/koha/site
01:43 eythian I mean, it could be better to do a test and fail early if things are still around, and allow -f to go ahead anyway
01:43 eythian or backup restore, yeah
01:43 wizzyrea the core usage of koha-restore was for a server move ya?
01:43 dcook I'd have to look at the scripts
01:43 eythian yeah, so it should create it.
01:42 dcook I'm guessing that koha_library@'%' doesn't exist?
01:42 dcook I'm not sure about the MySQL one...
01:42 eythian wizzyrea: I think so
01:42 eythian it'll be a 'user doesn't exist' message
01:42 wizzyrea should it be happy to do that?
01:42 eythian I think the mysql one is OK though
01:42 wahanui Also that is a giant undertaking
01:42 dcook Also that
01:42 eythian b) koha-restore should happily overwrite the stuff in there when it's extracting.
01:42 dcook I'll file them once I finish working on the task at hand
01:42 dcook Two bugs :D
01:42 dcook Yeah, koha-remove ought to remove it as well
01:42 wizzyrea yeah, that's definitely a bug.
01:41 eythian oh, that's probably a bug
01:41 eythian a) koha-remove ought to have remove /var/lib/koha/library
01:41 dcook Turns out koha-restore doesn't start up Zebra?
01:41 dcook Actually, I just tried restarting Zebra
01:41 dcook Ahh...
01:41 wizzyrea practically though, eythian's suggestion is probably the way to go
01:41 eythian you could carefully extract the files from the tar.gz too
01:40 wizzyrea example on a huge db it'd be much faster to restore than to reindex :/
01:40 eythian yes
01:40 eythian then do service koha-common restart
01:40 wizzyrea isn't one of the ideas though, that you could just restore the files and not have to reindex?
01:40 dcook Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of, but was hoping there might be a better way ::/
01:40 eythian then do koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v
01:39 eythian I'd delete /var/lib/koha/library and use koha-create-dirs to make them from fresh
01:39 eythian hmm, koha-remove and koha-restore don't really get enough stress testing.
01:39 dcook Most things seem to be restored OK, but no records come up :/
01:38 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-restore errors" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15
01:37 dcook (They're still going)
01:37 dcook Copying errors presently..
01:37 dcook Yeah, I did koha-remove then koha-restore
01:37 dcook I was working on a different computer. Doing it here now.
01:36 dcook Working on it ;)
01:36 eythian in fact, it might be bad
01:36 eythian I don't think that you need to koha-create first
01:36 eythian if you don't put the error message there, no one can help you
01:36 eythian dcook: you know to report bugs better than that
01:35 wizzyrea did you do a koha-create to create the new instance?
01:35 wizzyrea what are the errors?
01:35 dcook I've done a "koha-remove", but now when I try to do a "koha-restore", it gives me errors regarding Zebra indexes...
01:34 dcook Anyone around to answer some questions about koha-restore and koha-create?
01:08 wizzyrea ok mr smarty pants. :P
01:02 eythian and it has ~1,174 PNG files
01:02 eythian it takes 22 seconds to wget it :)
01:02 wizzyrea that was in the "before sleep" time.
01:02 wizzyrea ^.^ then yeah, I must have loaded sometime in the past, because it's definitely not slow for me
01:01 eythian it's 1.7MB of HTML alone, that's not going to load quick as a flash :)
00:59 wizzyrea I don't think I've seen it looking that flash before now.
00:59 wizzyrea mmm shouldn't
00:59 eythian I think it was just many images
00:59 eythian you maybe had everything cached
00:57 wizzyrea hm loaded quick as a flash for me
00:57 eythian does look good though
00:57 eythian that page takes forever to load
00:55 wizzyrea tcohen++ bgkriegel++
00:55 wizzyrea also it's looking quite nice online lately: http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/
00:55 wizzyrea mostly just wondering what I have to say in order to use a wee part of it.
00:54 eythian definitely
00:54 eythian yes
00:54 wizzyrea ^.^
00:54 jcamins Better than CC for source code.
00:54 eythian to a first approximation, GPLed docs end up being cc-by-sa more or less, give or take.
00:54 eythian GPL isn't usually the best thing for documentation, but not the end of the world.
00:54 wizzyrea def not CC-anything
00:53 eythian hmm
00:53 wizzyrea Published: 2014
00:53 wizzyrea Learn more about this license in the GPL3 Appendix
00:53 wizzyrea This manual is licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 3 or later
00:53 wizzyrea "
00:53 eythian also creative spelling...
00:52 eythian or even CC-SA for soemthing like documentaiton
00:52 eythian but I'm happy enough with CC-BY-SA
00:52 * eythian is unsure where he sits on this topic
00:52 wizzyrea oh, well that's a good reason.
00:52 eythian it's to do with the non-variant sections.
00:52 eythian Debian won't include it, for example
00:52 eythian GFDL does have some issues
00:52 jcamins And the reason definitely predated my involvement. I just seem to recall someone telling me there was a reason.
00:51 jcamins I think there was a reason, but I don't remember what it was.
00:50 rangi i can't remember why
00:49 wizzyrea it's GPL afaict
00:49 wizzyrea maybe we've talked about this before, but why isn't the manual the GNU Free Documentation License?