Time Nick Message
22:06 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
22:06 cait @later tell Joubu - could you take a look at Marcel's follow-up on bug 13876 maybe?
21:32 andreashm take care magnuse!
21:32 magnuse oops, running out of battery - have fun #koha!
21:30 andreashm (could be that I know to little of this stuff. quite a big possibility actually.)
21:29 andreashm we're kind of at the same place as Oslo, as Libris (union catalog) will be where the RDF stuff is happening. but if Koha could handle several metadata-formats that would help, so stuff doesn't have to be converted into Marc21 when harvested to the local systems. So I don't really see this as an either or thing.
21:27 magnuse yay
21:25 rangi im with magnuse
21:24 magnuse i want to semantify koha :-)
21:24 magnuse nope, they are going to build semantic things outside koha
21:24 * cait would totally attend that hackfest :)
21:24 andreashm magnuse: but this is not connected at all to the stuff Deichmanske are doing, I guess?
21:23 magnuse rangi: that would be utterly awesome
21:23 magnuse andreashm: yeah, it's been a while since i had the time to do anything about it...
21:23 rangi see if we can get some ES people there too
21:23 andreashm rangi: careful, or we'll have to take you up on that offer! =)
21:22 rangi we definitely should
21:22 magnuse we should have koha/catmandu hackfest/meetup some time
21:22 andreashm magnuse: the semantikoha live demo is not very live. just so you know.
21:22 rangi yay!
21:22 magnuse btw rangi: i tried rebasing dyrcona's ncip branch on master and only had a couple of minor conflicts
21:21 rangi invite me to sweden and ill tell you about it hehe
21:20 andreashm I have heard good things about Catmandu, but have absolutely no idea what it does. and am to lazy to go read up about it.
21:20 magnuse andreashm: i have noted down some thoughts here: http://libriotech.no/blogs/semantikoha
21:19 magnuse agreed :-)
21:19 rangi cos 1 its awesome and 2 the people maintaining it are awesome
21:19 rangi im waiting for the ES stuff, because it uses Catmandu and thats what I want to use
21:18 andreashm ah, the fabled next step.
21:18 rangi yup
21:18 magnuse we just need to actually get it into koha... :-)
21:18 rangi which should allow for doing some funky stuff
21:18 rangi yep, and we have both done POC showing we can do a marc2rdf transform
21:16 magnuse but rdf will also make browsing very cool :-)
21:16 wahanui it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
21:16 andreashm magnuse: interesting.
21:15 magnuse indexing the rdf with es is probably a good idea
21:15 magnuse andreashm: i have a cunning plan for semantifying koha, but not enough time...
21:12 magnuse kia ora eythian
21:11 cait AnonSuggestions = also allow suggestions for non logged in users (while logged in are treated as usual) OR force all suggestions to be anonymous?
21:10 wahanui hey, eythian
21:10 eythian hi
21:09 rangi etc
21:09 rangi then you can search title
21:09 andreashm sounds
21:09 rangi as long as they all have somethign that maps to say 'title'
21:09 andreashm rangi: sonds great
21:09 rangi so you can combine multiple formats
21:09 rangi because its a schemaless search system, you tell it what it is indexing when you send the data
21:09 wahanui somebody said RDF was just spinning round in circles on the water
21:09 andreashm RDF?
21:08 rangi then it's a lot easier to make it also handle less esoteric formats too :)
21:08 rangi once the ES support is done, for handling MARC
21:08 rangi yep
21:06 andreashm also interested in the comment on that bug from Galen Charlton about allowing Koha to support multiple metadata formats. also seem to remeber that something similar was mentioned with the Ebsco grant... anyone who knows what the plans/progress are with that?
21:03 andreashm rangi: I've seen that before, but thanks for reminding me!
21:02 rangi but also look at http://dp.la/info/2015/02/11/dpla-releases-krikri-0-1-3/
21:01 magnuse yeah, i think it is a question of time and tuits
21:01 rangi you'll probably want to talk to dcook about that
21:00 andreashm looking at bug 10662 right now.
21:00 andreashm magnuse: possibly. I hope a better solution will be around before we go live though.
19:43 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
19:43 magnuse @later tell Dyrcona i rebased your ncip branch on master today, with only a couple of minor conflicts (as far as i could tell) - yay! https://github.com/Libriotech/NCIPServer/tree/dyrcona i will probably base my work on that
19:32 magnuse google image search for "round tuit" - tee hee
19:29 cait :)
19:28 magnuse yup, you'll get some too
19:27 wahanui it has been said that cait is looking for someone to qa the sip patches
19:27 cait and me?
19:27 * magnuse makes a mental note of sending dcook some round tuits when he finds some
19:26 drojf yup
19:26 * drojf cheers on dcook
19:26 magnuse t'would be awesome if dcook found the time to finish that :-)
19:26 drojf hm
19:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P1 - high, ---, dcook, ASSIGNED , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
19:24 drojf bug 10662
19:23 drojf that reminds me…
19:23 drojf at least for now
19:22 drojf would not help much for a koha instance receiving the data anyway
19:22 magnuse Viktor would know...
19:22 magnuse there has been talk of oai-pmh and pubsubhubbub, but i don't think that is live yet
19:21 magnuse yeah, apparently
19:21 drojf ah ok. libris uses ftp?
19:20 magnuse it is written for a swdish public library that gets records from something called Libris
19:19 magnuse something like a union catalogue
19:17 drojf what ftp servers would i get marc records from?
19:17 magnuse patches welcome
19:17 magnuse here's a little thing i wrote: https://github.com/Libriotech/ftp2koha get marc records from an ftp server, add dummy items and bulkmarcimport them into koha
19:15 magnuse yay
19:13 cait :)
19:13 * drojf joins
19:12 * magnuse gives the evening wave
18:07 * cait waves
15:42 tcohen1 I promise I already ordered a new Wireless Router for home
15:28 fridolin see u
14:43 rambutan http://www.kansaslinuxfest.us/
14:43 rambutan on Koha and/or Evergreen next year
14:43 rambutan But anyway, I'd like to encourage Koha users that might be able to attend to give a presentation
14:42 rambutan I would expect a very good attendance
14:42 rambutan Next year it will probably be held at Kansas State University in Manhattan, KS
14:42 rambutan Was a very good event, and I'd guess there were about 150 attendees
14:42 rambutan I attended the first ever Kansas Linux Fest 2015 over the weekend at the Lawrence Public Library
14:18 francharb thanks
14:15 Joubu and then... git bisect :)
14:15 Joubu you could try in 3.16.x
14:14 francharb but since we are not going to update this library to master, I still have the issue.. ahah
14:13 wahanui somebody said good news was it looks like it's running properly.
14:13 francharb good news
14:12 francharb Joubu, it works on master
14:02 francharb If anyone ever experienced this, any feedback will be very appreciated
14:01 Joubu yes, you should :)
14:01 francharb hold on
14:01 francharb i should test on master
14:01 francharb nope, on my installation which is 3.14
14:01 Joubu francharb: on master?
14:00 francharb it doesnt display
14:00 Joubu and what about the é ?
13:59 francharb you can see the quote on the "d"
13:58 francharb I have Blanc macul ď'une ombre
13:58 francharb The normal view (with xslt) and ISBN view is not
13:57 francharb The marc view is almost OK
13:56 francharb The breadcrumb is OK
13:56 francharb It doesn't display well on each screen
13:56 francharb If I catalogue the title "blanc maculé d'une ombre"
13:55 francharb I have a weird issue here
13:55 francharb How is it going?
13:55 francharb Hi all!
13:46 magnuse 16 - nice!
13:46 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.2°C (10:44 AM ART on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
13:46 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (2:20 PM CET on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
13:37 magnuse @wunder boo
13:25 wahanui mmm meat
13:25 cait meeting time
13:24 cait looking for a signoff for the last patch there - sorry, just reminded me of it :)
13:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13380 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Auto fill order cancellation reasons from authorised values
13:23 cait bug 13380
13:23 cait mveron++ thx for signing off!
13:15 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 17.1°C (2:15 PM CET on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
13:15 mveron @wunder Basel
13:05 * magnuse involuntarily thinks "ah, the wine guy"
13:03 mveron Hi #koha
12:53 Oak :-]
12:53 magnuse nom nom nom
12:51 Oak here, have an orange: O`
12:51 Oak magnuse
12:51 magnuse Oak
12:38 cait heh ok ;)
12:36 Oak no, don't answer. chit chat later.
12:35 Oak what's for lunch?
12:35 Oak okay. work now, chit chat later.
12:34 cait yep
12:34 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 10.7°C (1:34 PM CET on March 24, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
12:34 Oak @wunder konstanz
12:34 Oak at work?
12:34 Oak how are ya?
12:34 Oak :) cool. i better not forget it again.
12:33 cait march 2nd
12:33 Oak wait. i forgot yours was before me or after me
12:32 cait heh thx :)
12:32 Oak happy belated birthday to you too cait.
12:32 cait Joubu++ cleaning up old bugs :)
12:32 Oak oh man!
12:31 cait or happy belated wishes to your birthday? whatever makes sense :)
12:31 cait happy belated birthday Oak :)
12:28 * Oak waves
12:28 Oak congratulations NZ cricket fans.
12:13 cait :)
12:09 gerundio :)
12:09 gerundio I lack the knowledge to mess around with it, so I think I'll be safe
12:08 gerundio cait, I'm using a clean Koha installation
12:08 kivilahtio gerundio: no problem! I hope you enjoy your stay
12:08 gerundio kivilahtio++, thanks for all your help
12:08 cait Local-number needs to be unique,so be careful not to change it (i did and the results were no fun) :)
12:08 gerundio cait++, you're right on target :)
12:07 kivilahtio it makes cait :)
12:07 cait i missed the beginning of the conversation so hope that makes sense
12:07 cait marc21 has 999
12:07 kivilahtio then it is ok
12:07 kivilahtio ok
12:07 cait unimarc uses the 001 for the biblionumber
12:07 gerundio I'm using unimarc
12:07 cait and the mapping is different for unimarc and marc21
12:06 cait changing local_number i would not recommend
12:06 kivilahtio gerundio: Check the Field 999$c
12:06 kivilahtio so that indexes the Biblio number given by the cataloguing authority, that number is further identified by the Field 003
12:06 cait Joubu: did you see my follow-up patch for master? could you test maybe?
12:05 kivilahtio you might get some extra noise in your results if Local-number is not specific for the field you need
12:05 gerundio </index_control_field>
12:05 gerundio <index_control_field tag="001"><target_index>Local-number:w</target_index>
12:05 kivilahtio I think it is, but there might be a more specific index for the Field 999$c which is the koha-to-marc mapping for biblionumber
12:04 kivilahtio Is the Local-number -index indexed in the marc_defs/marc21/biblio-koha-indexdefs?
12:03 gerundio so basically http://opac:9998/biblios?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=rec.id=61849&maximumRecords=1 returns data for biblio id 61849
12:03 gerundio in etc/zebradb/pqf.properties there's a line for "index.rec.id = 1=12"
12:03 kivilahtio Sorry I missed your chat, because you didnät explicitly invoke my name :(
12:02 gerundio which relates to Z39.50 search by id
12:02 gerundio on etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att I found this attribute: "att 12 Local-number"
12:02 kivilahtio gerundio: wow! What is the answer?
12:02 gerundio kivilahtio, I've dug deeper into etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att and etc/zebradb/pqf.properties and I think I might have found the answer to my question
11:47 gerundio is there any query parameter format I could use so the search result would in fact be the record with that biblio id?
11:46 gerundio if I simply replace "water" by the id itself it returns a result, but not the one it should
11:45 gerundio what should the query parameter be in that case?
11:45 gerundio but I'm looking to search by biblio id instead of a string like "water" on that example
11:44 gerundio this query works on my environment
11:44 gerundio http://opac:9998/biblios?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=water&maximumRecords=1
11:43 gerundio my knowledge regarding Z39.50, SRU and CQL are very limited, hence my last question
11:43 kivilahtio gerundio: Maybe it works as is, you could give it a try
11:42 kivilahtio gerundio: I think there is already one field for some kind of "control no."
11:41 kivilahtio You need to substitute one of the Z39-50 search fields
11:41 gerundio kivilahtio, what would the biblio id parameter look like in the CQL query after that?
11:36 kivilahtio I did that for component parts way back, but I added the 001 to some rarely used field
11:36 kivilahtio gerundio: Actually you have to configure Zebra to inlcude the biblionumber from Field 999 to one of the search indexes in the bib1-attrset
11:34 kivilahtio gerundino I think so
11:33 gerundio is it possible to query a specific bibliographic record by it's id using CQL on SRU?
11:30 gerundio I haven't uncomment the SRU block in config and just with the Z39.50 server part enabled SRU requests seem to work
11:29 gerundio hmm, I see a separate block for SRU but the Z39.50 server block has this comment <!-- This can be used to set up a public Z39.50/SRU server. -->
11:28 drojf there is a seperate config part in your koha-conf.xml
11:27 gerundio if we activate the Z39.50 server in our conf SRU will become available too, right?
11:26 gerundio it doesn't look that different
11:26 gerundio drojf, thanks for the tip, I'm looking into Koha's documentation regarding SRU at http://manual.koha-community.org/3.18/en/sru.html
11:23 drojf gerundio: sru is the successor of z39.50
11:20 gerundio does any of the items listed next to Z39.50 in this list provide a real alternative in terms of retrieving realtime bibliographic availability data?
11:18 gerundio I was looking into http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha#Bibliographic_data
11:18 gerundio hi all
10:20 cait blocking circ at the self check (sip)
10:20 cait anyone seen problems with fines blocking circ after updating to 3.18? :)(
10:20 cait hi #kha
09:44 gaetan_B salut nlegrand :)
09:43 nlegrand o/ gaetan_B
09:15 gaetan_B hello
08:54 nlegrand Hey #koha
08:35 Joubu good news :)
08:35 kivilahtio Cucumber
08:35 kivilahtio for ucumber tests
08:34 kivilahtio I'll share soon :)
08:34 kivilahtio Joubu: I have some good test setuppers and teardowners for borrowers, items, biblios, message_:queue, overduerules ...etc.
08:33 kivilahtio Joubu: so it is easy to sort, even by humans
08:33 kivilahtio Joubu: it could be float :)
08:33 kivilahtio Joubu: Writing tests for Koha and the OVerdues module is such a pain
08:33 Joubu kivilahtio: why a double?
08:33 kivilahtio Joubu: just planning ahead to the parallel holds stuff i need to do for Items
08:32 Joubu kivilahtio: worth at least a try :)
08:32 Joubu Hi #koha
08:00 alex_a bonjour
07:55 fridolin hie all
07:36 kivilahtio It works like BitCoin :)
07:23 kivilahtio just an idea :)
07:23 kivilahtio and we just smartly add the priorities in between the floating numbers
07:23 kivilahtio we could have 1, 2, 3, 3.5, 4, 5, 5.25, 5.5, 5.75, 5.825, 6
07:23 magnuse eythian++
07:22 kivilahtio instead of 1,2,3,4,5,6
07:22 kivilahtio khall, joubu, drojf,magnuse,tcohen: I got an idea, that if we used a Double for reserves.priority, instead of Int, we wouldn't have to readjust all priorities when altering the priority of a single hold? We could simply divide the priority to smaller pieces to establish a priority queue.
07:18 magnuse rangi++ gmcharlt++
07:10 * magnuse waves
06:07 drojf morning #koha
02:12 tcohen mtj, you are right
01:36 papa hi there!
01:36 eythian hi papa
01:06 mtj ($x) and do_stuff();
01:05 mtj hmm , thats not a great example
01:04 mtj ..the $y bit doesnt get executed?
01:04 mtj im sorta guessing that ($x and $y) means that if $x is not true..
00:57 mtj $resp .= add_field( FID_VALID_PATRON, 'N' ) if $protocol_version >= 2 ;
00:57 mtj or...
00:56 mtj ?
00:56 mtj }
00:56 mtj $resp .= add_field( FID_VALID_PATRON, 'N' ) ;
00:56 mtj if ( $protocol_version >= 2 ) {
00:56 mtj is it just another confusing way to state..
00:55 mtj and $resp .= add_field( FID_VALID_PATRON, 'N' );
00:55 mtj ( $protocol_version >= 2 )
00:55 mtj hi all, any idea what this perl does..?
00:10 * eythian starts building 3.18.5.1