Time  Nick      Message
02:27 eythian   jcamins: that's a fairly broad query, any specifics?
02:27 eythian   jcamins: eg, desktop, server, development, command line, etc.
02:32 jcamins   eythian: server, primarily. I have a junior developer who is interested in learning a bit about system administration.
02:34 eythian   I haven't looked at it deeply myself, but this might be a good start: http://debian-handbook.info/
02:35 jcamins   She's never been exposed to a *nix, other than OS X, and doesn't have much experience with the command line.
02:36 eythian   hmm, so depending on how she likes working from reference material, it might be good to use that second, after finding a nice intro to the command line type tutorial
02:37 eythian   http://cristal.inria.fr/~weis/info/commandline.html <-- slightly facetiously :)
02:38 jcamins   Heh.
02:38 eythian   (though, if she likes tech history stuff, a good read.)
02:39 eythian   otherwise, you can probably find some good tutorials with plain old google.
02:39 eythian   http://linuxcommand.org/ <-- eg
02:40 jcamins   Yeah, I'm finding there are so many options I don't know where to start.
02:40 eythian   I'd pick a few, skim read them, and see which you like the best.
02:40 eythian   I'd avoid the blog post style, 50% of the time they seem to be 25% lies.
02:41 eythian   but the book format ones strike me as better in general.
02:41 eythian   and then, once the command line makes sense, the debian admin handbook :)
02:41 jcamins   Yeah, that was my plan if no one had particular suggestions.
02:41 jcamins   Makes sense.
02:42 eythian   After that, it's really just remembering that thing you read about 3 years ago, and that just comes with having read things 3 years ago.
02:42 jcamins   Right.
02:43 eythian   also, doing everything the crappy way the first time so you can do it better the next time, as I'm discovering as I try to move services off a server approaching its 10th birthday...
02:44 jcamins   lol
02:45 * jcamins doesn't have to wait ten years to regret things.
02:46 jcamins   It only takes a year to look back and go "what was I thinking when I configured this computer?"
02:47 eythian   heh
02:51 eythian   what I should be doing with the new ones is building them with ansible, but I'm not.
02:51 jcamins   That's what I've started doing.
02:51 jcamins   It's great.
02:52 eythian   I need to get around to learning it
02:59 * eythian notes that a dist-upgrade to wheezy wants to remove koha-common
03:00 eythian   It doesn't seem to be critical though, putting a hold on it doesn't appear to cause issues.
03:01 eythian   good thing I was following the upgrade documentation closely, including its "just to be sure, run this and review" steps.
03:13 eythian   ah, I see why that happened. It does cause minor upgrade breakage with mysql-5.1 -> mysql-5.5
03:50 eythian   OK, first server upgraded and rebooted and it's happy. That's good.
03:53 eythian   rocio_afk was temporarily in the AFL. Such a short career.
13:09 mveron    Hi @koha
13:10 mveron    @wunder Basel
13:10 huginn    mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 9.9°C (2:10 PM CET on March 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
18:40 magnuse   @wunder boo
18:40 huginn    magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (7:20 PM CET on March 22, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling).
20:05 * cait    waves at magnuse
20:07 rangi     morning
20:07 cait      morning rangi
20:08 rangi     magnuse: did you see i made you a haiku?
20:09 rangi     ah yep i see you reply :)
20:09 cait      link? :)
20:10 rangi     http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/quips.cgi?action=show
20:10 rangi     scroll to the bottom, there are 4 there, for the 4 orgs/people backing on patreon
20:10 cait      :)
20:11 cait      hidden talents
20:11 * cait    nominates rangi for the koha poet
20:11 rangi     heh haiku are about the easiest form to write
20:31 cait      hn not sure magnuse noticed us :)
21:01 BobB      @later tell jcamins : check this out:  https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2#.VQ8tj83yNC0
21:01 huginn    BobB: The operation succeeded.
21:02 cait      hi BobB
21:03 BobB      hi cait
21:24 jcamins   BobB: thanks!
21:50 eythian   3.18.05 packages uploading
21:50 eythian   hmm, I'm trying and failing to get reprepro to keep old versions in a specific place.
22:49 * cait    waves good night
22:49 eythian   hi cait
22:49 eythian   bye cait
22:49 BobB      good night cait
22:50 * cait    waves at aleisha and goes to sleep
22:50 aleisha   night cait!
23:17 dcook     Oh snap... finally thought about finding the Canadian Multilingual French keyboard on Debian
23:17 dcook     This makes writing French about a bazillion times easier...
23:24 dcook     Hmm..
23:24 dcook     Bah, that's not the keyboard I want!
23:25 dcook     eythian: How many different keyboard layouts do you have?
23:51 wizzyrea  he's afk
23:55 dcook     But he's never afk!