Time Nick Message 02:27 eythian jcamins: that's a fairly broad query, any specifics? 02:27 eythian jcamins: eg, desktop, server, development, command line, etc. 02:32 jcamins eythian: server, primarily. I have a junior developer who is interested in learning a bit about system administration. 02:34 eythian I haven't looked at it deeply myself, but this might be a good start: http://debian-handbook.info/ 02:35 jcamins She's never been exposed to a *nix, other than OS X, and doesn't have much experience with the command line. 02:36 eythian hmm, so depending on how she likes working from reference material, it might be good to use that second, after finding a nice intro to the command line type tutorial 02:37 eythian http://cristal.inria.fr/~weis/info/commandline.html <-- slightly facetiously :) 02:38 jcamins Heh. 02:38 eythian (though, if she likes tech history stuff, a good read.) 02:39 eythian otherwise, you can probably find some good tutorials with plain old google. 02:39 eythian http://linuxcommand.org/ <-- eg 02:40 jcamins Yeah, I'm finding there are so many options I don't know where to start. 02:40 eythian I'd pick a few, skim read them, and see which you like the best. 02:40 eythian I'd avoid the blog post style, 50% of the time they seem to be 25% lies. 02:41 eythian but the book format ones strike me as better in general. 02:41 eythian and then, once the command line makes sense, the debian admin handbook :) 02:41 jcamins Yeah, that was my plan if no one had particular suggestions. 02:41 jcamins Makes sense. 02:42 eythian After that, it's really just remembering that thing you read about 3 years ago, and that just comes with having read things 3 years ago. 02:42 jcamins Right. 02:43 eythian also, doing everything the crappy way the first time so you can do it better the next time, as I'm discovering as I try to move services off a server approaching its 10th birthday... 02:44 jcamins lol 02:45 * jcamins doesn't have to wait ten years to regret things. 02:46 jcamins It only takes a year to look back and go "what was I thinking when I configured this computer?" 02:47 eythian heh 02:51 eythian what I should be doing with the new ones is building them with ansible, but I'm not. 02:51 jcamins That's what I've started doing. 02:51 jcamins It's great. 02:52 eythian I need to get around to learning it 02:59 * eythian notes that a dist-upgrade to wheezy wants to remove koha-common 03:00 eythian It doesn't seem to be critical though, putting a hold on it doesn't appear to cause issues. 03:01 eythian good thing I was following the upgrade documentation closely, including its "just to be sure, run this and review" steps. 03:13 eythian ah, I see why that happened. It does cause minor upgrade breakage with mysql-5.1 -> mysql-5.5 03:50 eythian OK, first server upgraded and rebooted and it's happy. That's good. 03:53 eythian rocio_afk was temporarily in the AFL. Such a short career. 13:09 mveron Hi @koha 13:10 mveron @wunder Basel 13:10 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Attenschwiller, Sundgau, Attenschwiller, Switzerland is 9.9°C (2:10 PM CET on March 22, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 18:40 magnuse @wunder boo 18:40 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (7:20 PM CET on March 22, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling). 20:05 * cait waves at magnuse 20:07 rangi morning 20:07 cait morning rangi 20:08 rangi magnuse: did you see i made you a haiku? 20:09 rangi ah yep i see you reply :) 20:09 cait link? :) 20:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/quips.cgi?action=show 20:10 rangi scroll to the bottom, there are 4 there, for the 4 orgs/people backing on patreon 20:10 cait :) 20:11 cait hidden talents 20:11 * cait nominates rangi for the koha poet 20:11 rangi heh haiku are about the easiest form to write 20:31 cait hn not sure magnuse noticed us :) 21:01 BobB @later tell jcamins : check this out: https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2#.VQ8tj83yNC0 21:01 huginn BobB: The operation succeeded. 21:02 cait hi BobB 21:03 BobB hi cait 21:24 jcamins BobB: thanks! 21:50 eythian 3.18.05 packages uploading 21:50 eythian hmm, I'm trying and failing to get reprepro to keep old versions in a specific place. 22:49 * cait waves good night 22:49 eythian hi cait 22:49 eythian bye cait 22:49 BobB good night cait 22:50 * cait waves at aleisha and goes to sleep 22:50 aleisha night cait! 23:17 dcook Oh snap... finally thought about finding the Canadian Multilingual French keyboard on Debian 23:17 dcook This makes writing French about a bazillion times easier... 23:24 dcook Hmm.. 23:24 dcook Bah, that's not the keyboard I want! 23:25 dcook eythian: How many different keyboard layouts do you have? 23:51 wizzyrea he's afk 23:55 dcook But he's never afk!