Time Nick Message 19:11 mtompset a ha! Idea. Praise the Lord for Z39.50 and the Library of Congress. :) 19:07 mtompset If it is 711$a, what should the indicators be? 19:06 mtompset Asian Synod (1998 : Rome, Italy) 19:06 mtompset I need a library type. :) 19:06 huginn mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <jcamins> sftp [-1246Cpqrv] [-B buffer_size] [-b batchfile] [-c cipher] [-D sftp_server_path] [-F ssh_config] [-i identity_file] [-l limit] [-o ssh_option] [-P port] [-R num_requests] [-S program] [-s subsystem | sftp_server] host ... 19:06 mtompset @seen jcamins 19:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 17:04 Joubu have a good week-end #koha! 16:46 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 16:46 ashimema @later tell cait, have you ever looked at bug 12289 16:21 fridolin1 see u 15:11 nengard thanks joubu - will look in a second 15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New permission to allow staff to remove public lists 15:11 Joubu nengard: I answered you on bug 13417, let me know if I am not clear :) 15:10 gaetan_B bye 15:05 schnydszch hi all! regarding the RFID thing I posted a while back, changing the ip number in port="127.0.0.1:6001/tcp" to ip address of the server, we were able to telnet to the server. please try it out. 15:05 reiveune bye 15:00 Joubu gaetan_B: there are pref hide_marc + advancedMARCeditor, and for more fun, a cookie 14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not 14:59 Joubu gaetan_B: see bug 9366 14:56 nengard wow I've done a ton in the manual: 1,657 commits / 884,522 ++ / 831,969 -- 14:55 nengard thank you so much 14:55 gmcharlt nengard++ 14:55 nengard gmcharlt++ 14:55 nengard WOOO HOO 14:55 gmcharlt great, it's working 14:55 nengard yes 14:55 gmcharlt nengard: the "Execure" typo fix? 14:54 nengard pushed 14:54 gmcharlt nengard: OK, the mirror is now up to date, and I'm ready for you to try a push 14:49 nengard K, I have a webinar in about an hour 14:48 gmcharlt nengard: Ill need a few more minutes; I'll ping you when I'm ready for you 14:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add desk management 14:48 nlegrand I'm going to work on Bug 13881, if someone as comments don't hesitate :) 14:48 gaetan_B the preference description is sort of acurate though 14:48 nengard gmcharlt back 14:48 gaetan_B then it might be a bug 14:48 gaetan_B but it seems to only hide numbers in the marc views 14:48 gmcharlt gaetan_B: I think your recollection is correct 14:47 gaetan_B i think i remember it working this way at a time 14:47 gaetan_B was the "hide_marc" system preference ever meant to hide marc numbers when cataloging or did i imagine it? 14:44 nengard gmcharlt - letting beau out - brb 14:43 magnuse time to wander off and make pizza - have fun #koha! 14:39 nengard gmcharlt ready when you are 14:38 magnuse woohoo! 14:38 wahanui friday is pizzaday 14:38 magnuse friday? 14:38 bag happy friday 14:38 bag good morning magnuse 14:38 magnuse bag: HI 14:34 nengard sure, give me a sec 14:34 gmcharlt nengard: could you line up a commit to push to the docs repo, then push it when I say the word? 14:31 nengard :) 14:31 bag HA 14:31 gmcharlt ;) 14:31 gmcharlt bag: my body is, my heart and soul are timezone-less 14:30 bag gmcharlt: you are on east coast time now? 14:30 gmcharlt *gotcha 14:30 gmcharlt gotcah 14:29 nengard https://github.com/Koha-Community/kohadocs 14:29 nengard mirrors kohadocs git to github 14:29 nengard oopsie 14:29 nengard gmcharlt just emailed the Koha list ;) 14:28 gmcharlt (I can help with that, just need coordinates) 14:28 gmcharlt nengard: mirror what where? 14:27 magnuse baga? huh? 14:27 magnuse gmcharlt, rangi, baga and chris_n are supposed to have shell access 14:26 magnuse oh looky, the git server is run by someone called bywater 14:26 nengard message to the mailing list it is :) 14:25 magnuse nengard: no idea - it sounds like something that would have to be setup by whoever runs the official koha repos 14:25 * magnuse never heard of a opac format 14:24 gerundio since there's no way to automagically convert from UNIMARC to USMARC, what is the OPAC format they mention and would that be a possible workaround? 14:22 gerundio and have upgraded in a few iterations to the current 3.18.x 14:21 nengard https://help.github.com/articles/about-github-mirrors/ 14:21 nengard magnuse I found out how to do it - i need to put a hook in the documentation git repo - do you know how I could find the hook that's in the koha repo to copy it? 14:21 gerundio we started using Koha at version 3.8 14:21 gerundio that would explain it 14:19 magnuse the changes around this happened around the 3.10 release 14:19 * drojf waves 14:19 magnuse could be 14:18 drojf so they used that as a feature? 14:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, CLOSED FIXED, Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB 14:18 magnuse i think it was bug 3087 14:16 gerundio magnuse, what Koha versions were affected by those changes? 14:15 magnuse there has been some changes to te z39.50 server 14:14 gerundio so I'd guess that would be the records' information 14:13 cait i think we can be quite sure that the data hasn't changed - only the way to query it 14:13 gerundio from a few emails that were sent back and forth I saw mentions of data being uploaded to them via FTP 14:13 cait if possible 14:13 cait i think maybe give them a call? 14:13 gerundio I'm only dealing with the infrastructure part of the process 14:12 gerundio good question... but I have that doubt myself 14:12 cait how does the ebsco index get updated if they don't support unimarc? 14:12 cait hm but not usre 14:11 cait holdings information for a record - i think the dispaly of the recordw ithin ebsco comes from their database 14:11 gerundio not clear for me 14:11 gerundio they mention mostly records but then they say "tracks if items are on available" 14:11 cait which should work 14:11 cait as long as they can find the record 14:11 cait hmmm i'd say only items 14:10 gerundio on. When RTAC functionality is implemented in an EDS Custom Catalog and a Record is loaded and displayed, our servers automatically query the z39.50 server (or other usable server), and display the holdings information returned for that Record." 14:10 gerundio "RTAC stands for Real Time Availability Checking, which is ensuring that the real-time holdings information for a Record is retrieved and displayed in an EDS Custom Catalog. This real-time holdings information is usually contained within a server, often a z39.50 server, which tracks if items are on available, checked out, on loan, etc... As items are physically checked out or returned, the server is updated with current holdings informati 14:10 gerundio from their explanation regarding RTAC, I'd say it looks into both 14:09 cait if they look at the items they are non-standard anyway 14:09 cait that would be my guess as well 14:09 gerundio so my thought is exactly as yours, it's been UNIMARC all along 14:08 gerundio nevertheless, the Z39.50 settings are now as they were before 14:08 cait or at the record? 14:08 cait the rtac service looks at the items? 14:07 cait (still getting unimarc anyway) 14:07 cait i think your koha always responded with unimarc data - but it might be that you could have asked for usmarc n the past 14:07 gerundio I can't point any other possibility as we didn't made any changes to the configurations ever since 14:07 gerundio probably when we upgraded Koha from sources to start using debian packages 14:06 gerundio in the meantime the Z39.50 server had been disabled 14:06 cait so something in our configuration changed maybe? did you update koha in between? 14:06 cait hmmmm 14:06 gerundio fast forward a year and they say it wasn't working anymore 14:05 gerundio after a few email exchanges then, I enabled the Z39.50 server on our Koha instance and got an OK from them 14:05 gerundio about a year ago I was contacted by our library staff saying that we would integrate with EDS 14:05 cait makes it sound more like a communication problem - if they worked successfully with your data beofre 14:04 gerundio cait, I'll try to give some context without going into excessive detail 14:03 cait hm the confusing bit is that they said it worked before 14:02 gerundio so basically what they're asking is not possible, right? 14:02 cait thre is no automatic conversion 14:02 cait it hink they might have used USMARC - but the data still was unimarc 14:02 cait huh, and they said it worked previously? 14:01 gerundio if our Koha installation is setup using UNIMARC can I simply publish the Z39.50 server with USMARC or OPAC format? 14:00 gerundio "Unfortunately, we do not support the UNIMARC format for Real Time Availability Checking. We do support the USMARC or OPAC formats. The USMARC format was used previously in a working configuration of RTAC for your EDS Custom Catalog. Could you change the format in your z39.50 server to either the USMARC or OPAC format?" 14:00 gerundio tcohen, I got a response from EBSCO's team regarding that Z39.50 server issue you helped me with yesterday 13:50 nengard and gerundio I am the one who pushes to the git repo for the documentation so I know all about it ;) 13:50 nengard I'll have to ask github :) 13:50 nengard :( 13:50 magnuse no idea how to do it, though 13:50 nengard yes i want to set up a mirror 13:50 magnuse i think mtj set up the other mirrors 13:50 magnuse and i think nengard wants to set up a similar mirror for the docs 13:48 gerundio I think Koha's repository @ github is a mirror 13:47 gerundio Koha has its own git repository 13:47 gerundio take a look at this http://koha-community.org/get-involved/for-developers/ 13:47 nengard https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha 13:47 nengard like the Koha report on github does 13:46 nengard https://github.com/Koha-Community/kohadocs - i want to set this up to pull from the official git repo regularly - I found a way to import a git repo but not how to keep it up to date 13:46 gerundio still more of a SVN user myself 13:46 gerundio nengard, not much, but ask away, maybe I can help 13:45 nengard anyone know much about github? 13:42 gerundio tcohen1, are you around? 13:15 wahanui i haven't a clue, kivilahtio 13:15 kivilahtio wahanui: do you like flowers? 13:15 kivilahtio Wanna go out with me wahanui? 12:44 wahanui what's up, tcohen 12:44 tcohen hi 12:25 cait tcohen1: ? 12:11 * magnuse waves 12:06 * cait waves 10:55 magnuse 108... 10:51 mveron Hi khall 10:49 khall mornin #koha! 10:41 mveron 126... Hmmm... 10:41 cait lol wahanui 10:40 cait my math is broken 10:40 wahanui rumour has it 98 is better than ME 10:40 cait or 98? 10:40 cait hm 10:40 cait 102 :) 10:38 kivilahtio I wonder what would happen if earth was 8 minutes without sun 10:38 mveron kivilahtio: 2021 then, a partial one... 10:36 kivilahtio bring it on 10:36 kivilahtio I will turn 94 that year 10:35 mveron cait: We have to wait until the year 2081 until it gets really dark... :-) 10:31 cait :) 10:27 nlegrand o/ cait 10:24 cait it got not quite dark, but noticeably darker 10:23 cait aah it's already over here 10:23 kivilahtio cait: the color of the world is a bit off 10:23 kivilahtio cait: It is happening as we speak 10:23 kivilahtio cait: nope 10:22 cait kivilahtio: did you watch the solar eclipse? 10:22 cait hi nlegrand :) 10:07 nlegrand Hey #koha 09:39 mveron Hi #koha 09:35 kivilahtio http://rogerpacker.com/blog/needs-isbn-invisible-indies/ 09:30 kivilahtio Rakuten buying OverDrive 09:29 kivilahtio jcamins: so what does it mean? 09:26 cait really looks funny 09:19 drojf magnuse: using the front camera of my smartphone while turned away (filming the sun behind me and looking at the display) works a little better than the camera obscura 09:16 cait someone eats the sun! 09:08 magnuse yay 09:06 cait some of the coworkers brought in the old glasses from 2009, taking turns here :) 09:06 cait don't hurt your eyes! 09:02 magnuse i'm gonna try the trick with a cardboard box and aluminum foil 08:59 drojf if you give me a pair… 08:45 cait who else is watching the sun with special glasses? 08:31 fridolin hie all 08:24 magnuse bonojur gaetan_B 08:23 gaetan_B hello 08:13 wahanui kia ora, codavid 08:13 codavid Bonjour 08:10 drojf :/ 08:10 drojf hi Joubu 08:10 Joubu drojf: same here in UK and in France... 08:09 Joubu Hello #koha 08:03 drojf magnuse: yeah. but then it's probably more exciting to just watch it online ;) 08:02 paxed magnuse: imo, mysql xml handling is so bad, it makes impossible to write proper sql reports... 08:01 magnuse http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/make-pinhole-projector.html 07:59 magnuse drojf: it looks quite easy to make an eclipse-viewer from a cardboard box and some aluminum foil... 07:57 reiveune hello 07:54 alex_a hello 07:52 magnuse ouch 07:52 drojf they sold them on ebay for a few hundred euro in the end. they are usually like… 2€? 07:51 magnuse wow 07:51 drojf and the optometrists said they don't care, they want to make real money with real glasses 07:50 drojf school kids are locked inside because schools are too stupid to buy such things ahead of time and hand them out 07:50 magnuse we bought some a couple of years ago, but we have no idea where they are after we moved last year... 07:49 magnuse :-( 07:49 drojf at least in berlin and a lot of germany 07:49 drojf and there are no protecting glasses available anywhere 07:40 magnuse and there is a solar eclipse! 07:40 magnuse as of today i have more sunlight than y'all - mohahahah! 07:40 magnuse happy spring equinox, #koha! 07:39 drojf hei magnuse 07:38 magnuse moin drojf 07:37 drojf morning 07:27 magnuse woohoo! 07:27 wahanui somebody said friday was pizzaday 07:27 magnuse friday? 07:25 mtompset Have a great day, #koha schnydszch paxed magnuse laurence. :) 07:20 magnuse my pleasure :-) 07:13 laurence thanks 07:13 laurence oulà 07:13 laurence helle magnuse 07:12 magnuse bonjour laurence - someone needs to give the server that runs http://www.biblibre.com/ a kick :-) 06:58 magnuse paxed: because noone felt the need for it strongly enough? 06:49 paxed why doesn't koha have a table that contains the extracted biblioitem marcxml, split into separate fields. 06:48 paxed blah. 06:35 mtompset Same problem, schnydszch 06:12 schnydszch telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused 06:12 schnydszch im trying it out from another server I'm getting v" 06:11 schnydszch hi! were trying out RFID in our institution, can somebody try to telnet to our server: telnet 54.169.225.223 6001 04:27 dcook Apparently they own kobo too. That's neat. 04:12 jcamins_ Wow. Rakuten bought OverDrive. 02:32 mtompset Greetings, dcook wizzyrea. :) 02:31 mtompset dcook++ # decent Java sarcastic humour. :) 02:19 wizzyrea no you're not 02:11 pianohacker oh jeez I'm still logged in 00:51 dcook Of course, feeling like I'm freezing really probably indicates that I should've stayed in bed this morning... 00:23 dcook I've definitely had a few "Bleck, this Java is terrible" moments though 00:22 dcook Nah, that was the one about it being full of beans 00:22 dcook But I'm sure it's in other places 00:22 wizzyrea oh I thought you were making a sly joke about java. 00:22 dcook Ghost in the Shell, Lost Girl, and Seinfeld. 00:22 dcook Of course I only have 3 examples off the top of my head... 00:22 dcook Or... I just noticed with all the shows I watched around a given time period :p 00:21 dcook There's always a joke or a second or two spent on a character going "Bleck, this coffee is terrible" and they throw it out 00:21 dcook Yep 00:18 wizzyrea bad coffee?