Time  Nick        Message
01:01 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13858: Datatables paging on Koha news tool page slightly broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3e02d2496a411b52304b4ade8b9594442993020> / Bug 13863: Fix Datatables paging on the cities and search history pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=031cccb6740cff2ec449f5fa219a872589d76974>
01:16 wizzyrea    @later tell barton I have heard of the reserve queue going dumb like that, yes.
01:16 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
02:42 * dcook     perks up
02:42 dcook       wizzyrea: What's weird about the reserve queue?
02:42 wizzyrea    that it only prints the first page from firefox.
02:42 wizzyrea    it's actually not weird, it's something to do with firefox and tables
02:43 wizzyrea    i.e. it doesn't like to split them across pages, so it just quits.
02:43 dcook       Boo-urns
02:43 wizzyrea    or it "thinks" that since it's put the table on the printable page, that it's only one page worth. or something.
02:44 wizzyrea    is a quirky thing.
02:44 dcook       I see I see
02:44 dcook       The only trouble I have with reserves lately is with the AutoIncrement
02:44 dcook       Apparently optimizing the table will reset the AutoIncrement to one higher than the number within that table
02:44 wizzyrea    ah
02:44 dcook       Which... can be bad for any table that moves from one table to another
02:44 wizzyrea    yes.
02:44 dcook       Like reserves... or items, biblios, biblioitems, issues, etc...
02:45 dcook       Of course, I would think the easiest solution would be not to optimize the database, but...
02:45 dcook       Well, easiest as in easiest short term
05:10 AmitG       hi chris
05:10 AmitG       chris around?
06:13 drojf       morning
06:37 * magnuse   waves
06:41 cait        morning #koha
06:43 magnuse     kia ora cait
07:03 cait        hi magnuse
07:31 andreashm   morning
07:37 magnuse     tjänare andreashm
07:37 andreashm   tjenix magnuse
07:38 AmitG       hi
07:38 AmitG       magnuse
07:40 magnuse     hiya AmitG
07:42 andreashm   I came in early to work today to watch a webinar from Ex Libris. it was to start at 7 gmt (40 min ago). I have yet to recieve any connection details. great.
07:43 alex_a      bonjour
07:45 magnuse     andreashm: sounds like fun
07:46 andreashm   magnuse: very
07:48 reiveune    hello
07:55 andreashm   morning
07:58 reiveune    !hgb
08:07 fridolin    hie poeple
08:09 kivilahtio  haie fridolin
08:12 marcelr     hi #koha
08:33 gaetan_B    hello
08:37 marcelr     hi gaetan_B
08:46 akafred     http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wiki.koha-community.org
08:46 akafred     --> It's not just you!
08:47 kivilahtio  what a nice web app!
08:47 akafred     :-)
08:48 marcelr     @later tell tcohen "Please revert bug 13793"
08:48 huginn      marcelr: The operation succeeded.
08:48 kivilahtio  helps ease the pain of kohawiki being downs
09:01 magnuse     hiya khall and Viktor
09:03 Viktor      Hi Magnuse!
09:11 Joubu       marcelr: you can modified the logdir entry in your koha-conf file to point to a directory writable by your koha user
09:11 nlegrand    Hiya #koha
09:12 Joubu       modify*
09:12 marcelr     yeah, but i should not have to do it
09:15 Joubu       marcelr: I agree, but there is an easy workaround. We can try to avoid to revert the patch before the release
09:15 magnuse     hiya nlegrand
09:15 marcelr     you could write your file to temp?
09:16 Joubu       marcelr: That's what I wanted to do, at the beginning. But it looked a good idea to keep a trace of the updatedb executions
09:16 marcelr     note that only the dir permission did not solve my problem, i also adjust selinux
09:19 nlegrand    o/ marcelr
09:19 marcelr     :)
09:19 nlegrand    I meant o/ magnuse but hey marcelr also ^^
09:22 magnuse     paul_p: small typo in http://biblibre.com/en/blog/koha-hackfest-2015-roundup "28 patches have been signed, 60 patches have been signed"
09:25 paul_p      magnuse thanks, i've fwd:: the hilight to pierre
09:33 magnuse     paul_p: yay :-)
09:48 cait        Joubu: could you maybe take a look at bug 13856? It includes some changes specific to unimarc
09:48 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13856 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Hard to translate strings on patron search results page
09:48 cait        hm,... and that was the wrong bug number
09:49 cait        bug 13859
09:49 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13859 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix item search result list - obsolete "by" and display of publication date for MARC21
09:49 cait        this one
09:49 wahanui     hmmm... this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement
09:50 magnuse     wahanui: forget this noe
09:50 wahanui     magnuse, I didn't have anything matching this noe
09:52 ashimema    is wiki.koha-community down?
09:53 kivilahtio  <akafred> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wiki.koha-community.org
09:53 ashimema    yup
09:53 ashimema    just did that
09:53 kivilahtio  :)
09:54 ashimema    that's an equinox one aint it
09:54 magnuse     ashimema: you can look it up on the wiki...
09:54 ashimema    ;)
09:54 kivilahtio  :)
09:54 cait        heh
09:55 indradg     hi!
09:57 indradg     is there a way to add a column from the items db table to the opac-detail holdings table in the NormalView?
09:58 indradg     one that does not involve digging into opac-detail.tt and .pl?
10:11 Joubu       cait: yep, will do
10:13 cait        Joubu: thx :)
10:13 cait        Joubu: i got lots of small patches... results of our testing and uer meeting
10:13 cait        indradg: sorry, not that i am aware of
10:14 indradg     cait: i see..
10:16 drojf       when i use matching rules for import, will it match only records already in the database before, or also those i import right at that moment?
10:17 cait        hm depends how fast your indexing is :)
10:17 cait        it uses zebra
10:17 cait        so normally only what is in there before i think
10:18 drojf       that's what i thought. thanks
10:21 kivilahtio  man it's hard to write Cucumber tests
10:21 kivilahtio  its hard to think like a Cucumber
10:21 magnuse     you can do it!
10:27 magnuse     sounds like lots of alcohol might be required to attain the cognitive level of a cucumber
10:28 drojf       that must be why hipsters throw cucumbers into their gin ;)
10:40 magnuse     ooh, interesting theory
10:44 marcelr     Joubu: about bug 11165: should your timestamp actually be called timestamp? note the previous discussion on irc in relation to bug 10459 (I wanted to add bortimestamp to make it unique, but found no support)
10:44 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , auth_header.datemodified should be updated
10:44 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10459 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , borrowers should have a timestamp
10:46 Joubu       marcelr: I don't know :) Kyle suggested something, let me check
10:49 Joubu       marcelr: bug 13421 comment7
10:49 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add the creation time for virtual shelves
10:51 marcelr     updated_on ?
10:52 marcelr     well, it would not be my suggested name, but what's in a name?
10:54 cait        marcelr: could i ask you to qa bug 13859 sometime? it's my patch and Joubu signed off - so already down with qa options a bit there :)
10:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13859 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Fix item search result list - obsolete "by" and display of publication date for MARC21
10:54 marcelr     cait: OK
10:55 marcelr     cait: you take 10480 :)
10:55 cait        bug 10480
10:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10480 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improvements for framework plugins in cataloguing/item editor
10:55 cait        i said i woudl test that -but not sure when
10:55 cait        i am trying to catch up - currently working ona serials patch (where i shoudl set the qa contact actually)
11:30 khall       mornin magnuse! mornin #koha!
11:33 gmcharlt    wiki back up
11:45 gerundio    hi everyone, good morning
11:46 gerundio    people at EBSCO are having some trouble retrieving R-TAC information using our Koha Z39.59 server
11:47 gerundio    I couldn't find any relevant documentation regarding this subject online
11:47 gerundio    is there any specific settings on Koha I should be aware in order to get this up and running?
11:57 cait        gerundio: i think koha has no rtac yet
11:57 cait        gerundio: what exactly are they looking for?
11:58 gerundio    cait, I have a screenshot from a YAZ client session they sent me
11:59 gerundio    they issued a "find @attr 1=12 61849" command followed by "show 1"
11:59 cait        sorry, i don't really speak yaz
12:00 gerundio    which resulted in "[239] Record syntax not supported -- v2 addinfo '1.2.840.10003.5.10' nextResultSetPosition = 2"
12:00 gerundio    bummer, I was hoping you would
12:00 gerundio    as I don't either
12:00 cait        think they might be missing something
12:01 gerundio    they told me they can connect and perform searches just fine in the Z39.50
12:01 cait        so what is 1=12 supposed to be?
12:02 gerundio    "At present, we are able to use credentials that have been previously provided to login and access the z39.50 server associated with your local Catalog. We use a program called Yaz to test accessing and searching a z39.50 server. After logging in and access the z39.50 server, we are able to search for and find Records from your Catalog that exist on the server. Unfortunately, we are unable to display any of the Records within the server,
12:02 gerundio    implying that is why our attempts to harvest and display holdings information is failing. Your ILS Vendor, Koha, does not require any special configuration to implement RTAC functionality. At this point, it would be most useful for you to consult your ILS Vendor, Koha, as they should have more information on the error shown in the previously sent screenshot. We do not maintain the z39.50 server, so unfortunately we do not know why it migh
12:02 gerundio    t be behaving incorrectly."
12:02 gerundio    this was their last email
12:02 cait        hm
12:02 gerundio    I think that as ILS Vendor, Koha, they might be thinking about LibLIme Koha
12:03 cait        are you running koha yourself?
12:03 gerundio    yes
12:03 cait        gerundio: or it's just an email text they copy a lot :
12:03 cait        :)
12:03 gerundio    cait, maybe
12:03 cait        gerundio: maybe best woudl be if you tested yourself
12:03 cait        it might be they need to select a record syntax
12:03 cait        like tell it to display marc21 or so
12:03 cait        a missing command
12:03 gerundio    I'm not familiar with Z39.50 server myself
12:04 gerundio    I performed some basic tests using MarcEdit Z39.50 client
12:04 cait        khall: are you friends with yaz?
12:04 cait        are you using marc21 or unimarc?
12:04 khall       as in yaz-client?
12:05 gerundio    unimarc
12:05 cait        khall: gerundio is working with ebsco and they say they can't display a record in his catalog
12:05 cait        gerundio: which version of koha are you using?
12:05 gerundio    3.18.02
12:05 khall       that's odd
12:05 cait        hm ok
12:05 cait        i know unimarc z39.50 was broken at some point, but that was ages ago
12:06 khall       so it's a record you've exported from Koha and sent to EBSCO? Or are they getting it via z39.50?
12:06 gerundio    they connecting via Z39.50
12:06 cait        (12:59:08) gerundio: they issued a "find @attr 1=12 61849" command followed by "show 1"
12:06 cait        (13:00:03) gerundio: which resulted in "[239] Record syntax not supported -- v2 addinfo '1.2.840.10003.5.10' nextResultSetPosition = 2"
12:07 gerundio    thanks cait++, I was just about to repost that info
12:07 cait        i think maybe they missed a command - telling what to display?
12:07 khall       gerundio: if you export that record from Koha, can you open it in another program like marcedit?
12:09 gerundio    khall, does 61849 stand for the biblio id?
12:11 cait        gerundio: maybe ask them what commands they exactly run
12:11 cait        they might be asking fur usmarc when it shoudl be unimarc or something like that
12:11 gerundio    exported the record to all 3 MARC formats available on Koha Save option
12:11 gerundio    upgrading MarcEdit, I'll get back in a minute
12:21 gerundio    khall, which koha export format should I use, none of the ones I chose seems to fit into MardEdit :s
12:22 khall       does the file end in marcstd?
12:22 khall       if so, change the file extension to .mrc
12:22 khall       marcedit should know to open that
12:26 gerundio    khall, changing the file extension from .marcstd to .mrc worked
12:26 gerundio    it shows fine in MarcEdit
12:26 gerundio    at least from what I can tell
12:32 gerundio    khall, any hint on what that find query is suppose to return?
12:32 khall       gerundio: I think it's safe to rule out a bad record at this point.
12:32 khall       I'm afraid we've hit the limit of my knowledge. tc	ohen can probably help from here when he gets back
12:33 khall       I would say this must be a zebra issue
12:34 gerundio    ouch, I'll try to reach tcohen when he gets back then
12:34 gerundio    cait++, khall++, thanks for all your help
12:34 khall       np!
12:35 andreashm   humm... my 3.16 doesn't want to add holds. giving an error message saying there are no items added, which there is. weird. anyone stumble onto something similar?
12:36 andreashm   if I manually go and edit the item, and change the "koha item type" field to something else and then back again it suddenly works.
12:43 tcohen      morning!
12:43 tcohen      hi marcelr
12:43 magnuse     andreashm: weird! but at this point i would check if an upgrade to 3.18.x fixes it
12:43 magnuse     ¡hola tcohen!
12:43 marcelr     hi tcohen
12:43 andreashm   I'm wondering if it is a migration issue.
12:43 magnuse     andreashm: that could be
12:44 andreashm   or if we've screwed up with the circulation rules or something.
12:44 tcohen      i will consider your proposal, my first impression is that the log dir should in any case be owned by the apache process user
12:44 magnuse     that could also be :-)
12:44 andreashm   magnuse: gaaaah. =)
12:44 tcohen      so it seems to only affect people with dev installs (myself for example)
12:45 magnuse     but since changing the item type and chenging it back fixes it, it sounds like there is something that is missing, which is added when you edit the item
12:45 marcelr     tcohen: what about selinux too
12:45 andreashm   maybe we should have someone who's good at the koha administration come to stockholm and guide us through the ropes... anyone interested? =)
12:45 magnuse     andreashm: maybe check the item in the database before and after editing? and see if anything other than the item type changes
12:45 tcohen      what about it?
12:45 marcelr     it is part of the problem
12:46 marcelr     if you use it, he may not like you to write new files out there
12:46 tcohen      chown-ing the dir to www-data doesn't fix it?
12:47 marcelr     did not test that, but i guess i have to add an exception
12:47 marcelr     all by all, i rather have that file in temp
12:49 andreashm   magnuse: good idea.
12:52 cait        tcohen: what about other processes writing to the directory? i think some of the command line scripts log too?
12:53 tcohen      it is a mess
12:54 tcohen      on a packages setup everything is ru nby the right user
12:54 tcohen      we need a way to fix it for dev isntalls
12:54 marcelr     in a dev install you will run updatedatabase the most time
12:56 cait        marcelr: that didn't work for me either
12:56 cait        runnign the script directly
12:57 marcelr     yeah
12:57 marcelr     i would opt for reverting
12:59 tcohen      can u help me think of a workaround for dev setups instead?
13:01 tcohen      marcelr, cait: i have no problem reverting it at some point, but I'm not sure we should. we should as well find a workaround for dev setups
13:01 marcelr     move the file to temp
13:02 cait        is the file kept or deleted anyway? becuase then we can just use temp i think
13:02 marcelr     log files are temporary by nature
13:12 andreashm   magnuse: strange... if I allow onshelfholds in the circ preferences it works without the need of changing the item type.
13:18 * barton    waves the morning wave
13:18 khall       cait et al: I finally got around to fixing bug 9805 so now you can choose if you can renew lost items, and if that renewal marks the item as found via circulation rules
13:18 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9805 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Lost items are un-lost if returned, but not if renewed.
13:18 magnuse     andreashm: strange indeed. does that mean that earlier you were able to place a hold on a book that on the shelf, even with onshelfholds = don't allow
13:20 andreashm   magnuse: nope, that didn't work. but allowing that parameter suddenly made holds work, with no issues. setting it back to do not allow (and checking the book out of course), and I still have the problem of it claiming that there are no items connected to the record.
13:20 barton      what's the status on Bug 5534? It's marked as 'NEW' in bugzilla, but it was reported in December 2010.
13:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5534 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha does not ignore punctuation when searching
13:20 marcelr     there will be more :)
13:21 andreashm   I saw some other 3.16 bug with it claiming there where no items - but that was when several items where placed in the cart, and some not allowed to place a hold on. but that seems to have been resolved.
13:25 cait        barton: i think icu does that
13:25 cait        remoing the punctuation
13:26 cait        but then you can<t search c++
13:32 barton      cait -- the issue that I'm working on is actually more convoluted: Searching using apostorophes doesn't work using kw, wrdl, but is necessary in an author search :-P
13:32 cait        ah interesting - not sure that's a zebra problem... might be our code
13:33 cait        have you tried searching without the apostrophe?
13:35 barton      yeah... in main > catalog, search results appear for searches where the apostrophe is ommitted (e.g. searching for OBrien returns results for O'Brien). In an author search, only O'Brien returns O'Brien.
13:38 cait        barton: i'd blame Search.pm
13:42 barton      oh, I do. believe me, I do.
13:45 tcohen      uff, this power outages are driving me mad
13:51 drojf       marcelr++
13:51 marcelr     :)
13:52 tcohen      @later tell dpavlin I will attach my plack-for-packages patch to the bug as-is, as I don't have enough time to finish it this week, and maybe someone else can take the lead with that basis
13:52 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:59 tcohen      Joubu: did biblibre change something on the git server? I cannot seem to fetch without user/pass anymore
14:12 gerundio    tcohen, I was told by cait and khall that you might be the right person to talk to conserning a problem in my Koha installation with EBSCO EDS integration via Z39.50 server
14:12 gerundio    can you spare a few minutes of your time to look into it?
14:12 gerundio    EBSCO's team issued a "find @attr 1=12 61849" command followed by "show 1" using yaz-client
14:13 tcohen      yes
14:13 gerundio    which resulted in "[239] Record syntax not supported -- v2 addinfo '1.2.840.10003.5.10' nextResultSetPosition = 2"
14:13 tcohen      i haven't used the integration
14:14 gerundio    khall told to try and export the Koha record and open it in MarcEdit, which I did successfully
14:15 gerundio    his feedback then was: "I think it's safe to rule out a bad record at this point.I'm afraid we've hit the limit of my knowledge. tc ohen can probably help from here when he gets back I would say this must be a zebra issue"
14:15 tcohen      gerundio, can u explain me slower what the problem is? the one you are trying to solve/debug using yaz-client
14:16 gerundio    sure
14:18 gerundio    our  library catalog is being integrated into EBS (EBSCO Discovery Service)
14:18 gerundio    we provided them our Z39.50 server settings so they could retrieve the information the needed
14:19 gerundio    in the meantime their team reported: "At present, we are able to use credentials that have been previously provided to login and access the z39.50 server associated with your local Catalog. We use a program called Yaz to test accessing and searching a z39.50 server. After logging in and access the z39.50 server, we are able to search for and find Records from your Catalog that exist on the server. Unfortunately, we are unable to display a
14:19 gerundio    ny of the Records within the server, implying that is why our attempts to harvest and display holdings information is failing. Your ILS Vendor, Koha, does not require any special configuration to implement RTAC functionality. At this point, it would be most useful for you to consult your ILS Vendor, Koha, as they should have more information on the error shown in the previously sent screenshot. We do not maintain the z39.50 server, so unf
14:19 gerundio    ortunately we do not know why it might be behaving incorrectly."
14:20 gerundio    the screenshot mentioned there shows that yaz client queries being submitted and resulting in that error message
14:20 tcohen      can u send it to my email?
14:21 gerundio    tomascohen <at> gmail.com ?
14:22 tcohen      yes
14:23 fridolin    gerundio: in yaz-client, try : "format usmarc" or "format XML"
14:23 cait        hi fridolin - he is using unimarc
14:24 cait        if that makes a difference
14:24 tcohen      usmarc and marcxml are serialization formats
14:24 fridolin    cait: hie, oh then easy : format unimarc
14:24 fridolin    thats what we use (since 3.10)
14:24 fridolin    show will use this format to display te record
14:25 tcohen      fridolin: my guess is that they are expecting the format to work out-of-the-box
14:26 tcohen      and unimarc is not kosher
14:26 tcohen      we shouldn't use it
14:26 fridolin    its configured in koha-conf.xml if im correct
14:26 cait        oleonard is back! at least on the mailing list!
14:27 fridolin    <retrieval syntax="unimarc" name="F"/>
14:27 fridolin    I think it is this line
14:27 tcohen      fridolin: it is
14:27 fridolin    but i dont know how to configure the defaut format used by yaz-client
14:27 tcohen      i'm just guessing their tools don't expect it
14:33 gerundio    fridolin, using "format xml" followed by "show 1" resulted in the biblio record being shown
14:33 gerundio    "format unimarc" followed by "show 1" works too
14:33 tcohen      gerundio: yes, and probably usmarc too
14:33 tcohen      the thing is, what EBSCO is using for retrieval, that doesn't match your configuration
14:34 gerundio    ..oO(tcohen, I've written the email but still haven't press Send)
14:34 gerundio    I'll send that information back to EBSCO's team
14:34 tcohen      that's the best option
14:34 gerundio    let's see what their feedback is
14:35 gerundio    tcohen++, fridolin++, cait++ thank you very much for your support
14:35 fridolin    your welcome
14:37 cma         hi everybody, can you tell me if there's a syspref that will let me set a hold's default pickup branch to the holding library?  I swear I saw it yesterday but now I can't find it.
14:38 tcohen      on the circulation matrix page?
14:38 cma         maybe...might explain why I'm not finding it.  :)
14:41 cma         I'm not sure that does what I need, but maybe I'm misinterpreting it.  I need to allow patrons to place holds on items from any library, but they must be picked up from the holding library.
14:42 cait        cma: i am nto sure you can do that
14:43 cait        hmmm
14:43 cait        ah
14:43 cma         we used to but it might have been a khall customization.  we finally just upgraded from a pretty customized 3.02
14:43 cait        you could say they can place holds, but items are not transported
14:43 cait        maybe that would do it
14:43 cma         ok
14:43 cait        sepaking of him, khall might know
14:44 cait        we only have 2 libraries with more than 1 branch, holds have so many options
14:44 khall       cma: yeah, that sounds like custom work. I can see if we can do it via javascript, otherwise I'll have to submit a bug and patch
14:44 cma         ok.  I'm liking this javascript thing.  Saves a lot of headaches.
14:45 khall       javascript++
14:50 paul_p      magnuse typo fixed on biblibre blog
14:54 cma         khall, I tried using the transport cost matrix with no transfers allowed and it won't let me place a hold on an item from another library, even with canreservefromotherbranches set to Allow.
14:55 khall       cma: so that serves as a workaround?
14:56 cma         no, it won't let me place a hold.  I need it to allow me to place a hold at another library but not transfer the item
15:00 cma         i figured I'd try it out and see if it would work as a workaround
15:01 cait        i was hoping it would let you, but i think maybe there is no logic for pickup locations yet hm
15:03 khall       cma: I'm having a hard time visualizing what you need. This is for the opac, right?
15:03 khall       and you need the pick up location fixed to that patron's home branch at the time the hold is placed, correct?
15:04 cma         I might be wrong, now I've disabled it and it still won't let me place holds on stuff at another library
15:04 cait        khall: the items home branch
15:04 cait        hm which might be difficult, when there are multiple
15:04 cma         i need the pickup location to be the item's home branch, yes
15:04 khall       cma: check your circulation rules. There are a number of settings in there that will help.
15:05 cma         yes, that can of worms.  :)  I'll have a look
15:07 khall       I hadn't thought of it until now, but the additional of a complete RESTful api would do wonders for the ability customize sites with javascript
15:10 cma         ah-ha, adding a default holds policy for an item type let me place a hold on it, now to test with the transport matrix.
15:12 cma         nope, still defaulted pickup library to mine.
15:14 khall       cma: the transport cost matrix only affects the holds queue afaik
15:14 cma         ok.  well, it was worth a shot
15:24 cait        drojf: datumsbereich erscheinungsjahr in advanced search- can we think of something better?
15:26 Joubu       marcelr: I don't understand the issue you described on bug 13864, could you please detail?
15:26 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Columns configuration - Late orders
15:27 marcelr     The admin page does not save my column config
15:27 drojf       cait: yes
15:27 marcelr     I mark information as hidden and I save, but no result?
15:27 Joubu       ha
15:27 Joubu       ok will tr
15:27 Joubu       y
15:27 cait        drojf: the library says date range and years don't fit together
15:31 drojf       erscheinungsjahr eingrenzen
15:31 drojf       datumsbereich is a weird word :D
15:33 drojf       or erscheinungszeitraum eingrenzen
15:33 drojf       but it's too long for the display ;)
15:34 drojf       maybe just erscheinungszeitraum
15:36 drojf       i'd go with the last. and it fits in the display too
15:44 Joubu       cait, marcelr: did you open a bug report for the updatedb permission issue?
15:44 marcelr     no
15:44 marcelr     see the report itself
15:58 Joubu       ok patch submitted on bug 13876
15:58 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13876 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Permission issues on updating via installer - dev installations
16:09 reiveune    bye
16:10 fridolin    bye
16:43 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
16:43 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 32.2°C (1:40 PM ART on March 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
16:51 tcohen      @later tell marcelr could you please take a look at jonathan's solution? bug 13876
16:51 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:51 tcohen      Joubu++
17:20 cait        Joubu++
17:20 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13836: Does not separate symbol and value if symbol is not displayed. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15468615f9c5c427cc819bf833c2df58d13c5080> / Bug 10703: Add more serial table DB documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a886aed2928b619826b5e2cd435998f7d2b276> / Bug 10703: Update Patron DB Documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
17:38 gaetan_B    bye
18:12 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13709 - Patron cards creator utf-8 encoding and ttf fonts broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d149cd1d977ab796edd5da9881f08bac251c54e1> / Bug 13021: Reintroduce the name column for guarantor search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bceac94f0a64b826413baecc82a690fca58a46f8> / Bug 13021: guarantor search - guarantor_search.tt is useless <http://git.koha-co
18:15 tcohen      @later tell dcook I left a comment on bug 12739 but couldn't provide the followup because I have to leave
18:15 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:27 tcohen      bye #koha
18:47 p_vdk       Hello Koha community
19:02 * magnuse   gives the evening wave
20:16 Brooke      o/
20:18 Brooke      squeee
20:18 * Brooke    hugs pianohacker
20:18 pianohacker hi Brooke!
20:19 Guest136    oleonard++
20:19 Guest136    heh
20:19 Brooke      I always knew Rangi had a sekrit id but I didn't suspect it was guest 136
20:20 rangi       hi Brooke
20:20 Brooke      howdy
20:30 nengard     hi brooke
20:32 Brooke      squeeeee
20:32 * Brooke    hugs nengard
20:32 * nengard   hugs back
20:59 Brooke      tko
21:22 rangi       be rangi
21:22 wahanui     Send a patch!
21:39 pianohacker cool site: http://experimental.worldcat.org/marcusage/246.html
21:39 tcohen      hi rangi
21:41 rangi       hey tcohen
21:49 mtj         hi #koha
21:49 mtj         pianohacker: nice link ^ :0)
21:50 mtj         hey, i recently bumped into a nice discourse.org site... -> http://hub.jmonkeyengine.org
21:51 mtj         i think its the 1st site, ive seen
21:52 mtj         http://hub.jmonkeyengine.org/t/project-rts-game-engine-map-editor-implemented/29983
21:52 mtj         http://hub.jmonkeyengine.org/t/how-to-type-code-blocks/31155
21:53 mtj         embedded images and video, and code snippets too
21:58 mtj         i think ill config a discouse in the weekend :)
22:01 rangi       can't hurt to give it a try
22:02 * cait      waves
22:07 mtj         yep, totally
22:10 mtj         also, hi cait :0)
22:11 * dcook     waves
22:11 dcook       bug 12739
22:11 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12739 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Passed QA , SendAlerts function does not take care of "html" format or UTF-8
22:18 eythian     http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1426775844-20150319.png
22:23 dcook       hehe
22:24 dcook       You know... I used to have a theory about references to things in media
22:24 dcook       For instance, I think every single tv show I've ever watched has had a reference to bad coffee
22:24 dcook       I think every single web comic I've ever read has had a reference to librarians in some way.
22:24 dcook       Although not as specific as the bad coffee thing...
23:49 dcook       Oh, Java. You're just full of beans...