Time  Nick         Message
22:36 dcook        Hmm, Library Law #19 might have basis in reality..
22:35 * dcook      still would have preferred to wear his hat indoors though
22:35 dcook        The librarian there was super nice.
22:34 dcook        The rules were tough but fair :p
22:34 dcook        That was a great library actually...
22:34 dcook        I think it was off limits in the Catholic library I worked in
22:34 * dcook      shrugs
22:32 wizzyrea     defacing celebrities is funny? idk.
22:32 dcook        It wasn't librarians though as they don't touch the periodicals...
22:32 dcook        But so many libraries I've worked in... someone has put barcodes and stamps on celebrity foreheads
22:32 wizzyrea     because reasons.
22:32 dcook        I don't know why...
22:32 dcook        Slide 29 does appear to be a thing
22:32 dcook        Haha
22:32 wizzyrea     law
22:31 wizzyrea     las 24
22:31 wizzyrea     oh, and slide 26
22:31 wahanui      somebody said facepalm was a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.
22:31 * dcook      facepalm
22:31 wizzyrea     number 26
22:31 dcook        Slide 26, or #26?
22:31 * dcook      is scared just to click
22:30 wizzyrea     actually, after 26 it kind of goes into rude territory.
22:30 wizzyrea     http://www.slideshare.net/46144/the-laws-of-library-science-33574555 number 26 :(
22:22 eythian      haha
22:22 cait         heh
22:22 dcook        Unless they've just fetched me beer. Then we can laugh about it :p
22:22 eythian      cait: sure :) if I'm lucky, the SSO stuff I'm also working on will remain stuck at their end.
22:22 dcook        I really hope my progeny never lookup these IRC logs
22:22 * dcook      needs to breed so he has someone to fetch beer and to test patches
22:21 dcook        Need more students :P
22:21 cait         eythian: just let me know when you are ready for more testing ;)
22:19 wizzyrea     it seems to be a global shortage
22:19 cait         i have run out.. temporarily
22:19 cait         heh
22:19 wizzyrea     round ones are the best.
22:19 wizzyrea     if you could come up with a supply of tuits for him, that'd be great.
22:18 cait         tsk
22:18 eythian      maybe tomorrow
22:18 eythian      not yet
22:18 cait         eythian: so did you fix everything?
22:17 cait         dcook: i am not sure eythian would call it helping ;)
22:17 * dcook      is super glad that cait is doing it, as dcook has had no time to help with ES :(
22:17 dcook        cait++
22:17 dcook        She doesn't appreciate me correcting things all the time :P
22:16 dcook        cait: tell that to my wife
22:16 eythian      heh
22:16 cait         eythian: i am trying to be nice...
22:16 dcook        hehe
22:16 wizzyrea     <3
22:16 wizzyrea     ^.^
22:16 wizzyrea     You and your german notions of perfection.
22:15 eythian      I'm amused by your assumption that it will be at some stage :)
22:13 cait         you know it's not my fault that your code is not perfect yet
22:13 cait         :P
22:12 eythian      cait: you need to stop finding issues in ES, I think. How will it every get finished if you make me have to stop and fix things? :)
21:57 cait         hi eythian
21:56 eythian      hi
21:41 mtj          hiya, just pm-ed you a url
21:37 rangi        yep
21:37 mtj          ..i wanted to run a patch past you
21:36 mtj          hey rangi, have you got a tic?
21:35 mtj          hi all
21:25 rangi        cya magnuse
21:25 magnuse      have fun #koha!
21:01 magnuse      hehe, worth a try :-)
21:01 cait         hm what about...whoever is not talking in the moment has to report on irc? :)
21:00 andreashm    cait: not sure Viktor will see it the same way though.
21:00 cait         sounds like a plan :)
21:00 andreashm    I'll get Viktor to do that! =)
20:59 andreashm    magnuse: eh... probably not. bad at keeping notes and talking at the same time. so I'll stick to the talking. =)
20:58 magnuse      andreashm: will you report live on irc? :-)
20:57 andreashm    magnuse: indeed
20:57 cait         oh!
20:57 magnuse      ah yes, that will be interesting!
20:57 * andreashm  is waiting for tomorrow and the Koha roundtable talks at the National Library.
20:57 magnuse      yeah, it is interesting
20:56 andreashm    magnuse: sounds like fun. =)
20:56 magnuse      andreashm: just getting started
20:56 magnuse      bag: HI & knuckles
20:56 andreashm    magnuse: how's the ncip/ill work going?
20:56 magnuse      yeah, we are a bunch of vendors trying to create interoperable systems - adherence to the xsd is one of the things we have agreed on
20:55 bag          magnuse  (nuckles dood) HI
20:53 Dyrcona      I played with 2 and 3 while testing, and found I preferred 2, but your vendor may complain.
20:52 Dyrcona      3) Add the namespace in the templates.
20:52 andreashm    cait: oh I'm perfectly innocent (*cough, cough*)
20:52 Dyrcona      2) alter the xsd so the namespace is not required.
20:52 magnuse      lol
20:51 Dyrcona      1) Don't validate the output.
20:51 magnuse      Dyrcona: you wouldn't happen to know how to fix it?
20:50 cait         andreashm: still fighting off the cold - you are still a suspect! :)
20:50 * cait       waves
20:50 * magnuse    loves it when people who have koha as their dayjob turns up outside office hours
20:49 andreashm    tjenare magnuse
20:49 magnuse      tjänare andreashm
20:49 Dyrcona      magnuse: It is a namespace thing.
20:49 andreashm    hi all
20:49 magnuse      it strikes me now that it might be a namespace thing
20:48 magnuse      unknown-1689440:0: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}NCIPMessage': The attribute '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}version' is required but missing.
20:48 magnuse      unknown-1689440:0: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}NCIPMessage', attribute 'version': The attribute 'version' is not allowed.
20:48 magnuse      i tried to validate the response from ncipserver and got what i thought was a weird result:
20:48 Dyrcona      heh.
20:47 rangi        cos im lazy
20:47 rangi        curl -X POST -d \@cancelrequestitem.xml http://website.goes.here/ncip --header "Content-Type:text/xml"
20:46 rangi        i just did this
20:45 magnuse      i have used HTTP::Tiny so far
20:44 Dyrcona      Right. I used LWP::UserAgent to smoke test the different requests during development.
20:43 magnuse      writing a client is not very hard though, just a bunch of templates that are POSTed to an endpoint
20:43 magnuse      i still have some time to figure things out :-)
20:42 magnuse      no problem
20:42 Dyrcona      That might be harder with a client. I haven't really thought about it.
20:42 Dyrcona      Well, like, how NCIPServer is supposed to work with Koha or Evergreen or whatever.
20:41 magnuse      ok?
20:41 Dyrcona      That might be harder to plug in different backends.
20:41 magnuse      ok
20:41 Dyrcona      Not sure. I'd probably start a new project.
20:40 magnuse      as part of the ils, or as part of ncipserver or as another free standing thing?
20:40 magnuse      any thoughts on how you would do it?
20:40 magnuse      i do
20:39 Dyrcona      Not right now, no.
20:39 magnuse      Dyrcona: do you have a need for having the ils as a ncip client, sending out requests to ncip servers?
20:38 magnuse      woohoo
20:38 rangi        and code until it passes :)
20:38 rangi        we can write the tests first
20:38 rangi        and with Test::WWW::Mechanize
20:37 magnuse      true
20:37 rangi        ie, its not a new feature, just a new interface
20:37 rangi        because we know how it should behave
20:37 rangi        its actually easier to write/test than it seems
20:37 rangi        i think it will
20:36 magnuse      opl are very interested, at least
20:36 magnuse      i hope the rest api has enough wind in its sails to really get somewhere
20:36 magnuse      hehe, yeah
20:36 rangi        that was always part of the plan, but not enough hours in the day to do the api and the ncip server
20:35 rangi        then it can sit on a sep machine etc
20:35 magnuse      ah, interesting!
20:35 rangi        exactly
20:35 magnuse      oh, to replace the direct use of subroutines with the rest api?
20:35 rangi        Dyrcona: it'll be fine, i rarely hate anyone :)
20:35 rangi        but thats a wee way away, so patching it now is good
20:34 rangi        magnuse: that whole Koha.pm will get rewritten when the restful api comes along further
20:34 rangi        yeah
20:31 magnuse      yup, we are using english for the content/actions. but it might not be the same words as others, of course...
20:30 Dyrcona      rangi will probably hate me, too, after he works out the merge. I changed a lot when it comes to the interfaces.
20:29 magnuse      i *think* we are sticking to english
20:29 magnuse      similar to line 159
20:29 magnuse      $result = { success => 0, messages => {'ITEM_NOT_FOUND' => 1} };
20:28 magnuse      http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=NCIPServer.git;a=blob;f=lib/NCIP/ILS/Koha.pm;h=43ef8339b27976bb361988e5b7f35a10d45e616f;hb=HEAD#l176 should probably be
20:28 magnuse      found another small problem too
20:28 Dyrcona      It's not the only reason, I'm sure. ;)
20:27 rangi        which is why i hate ncip :)
20:27 rangi        its perfectly valid according to the standard if they did
20:27 Dyrcona      I pondered that, like how to configure something like that for different vendors, etc.
20:27 rangi        i wonder if they will send the actions in norwegian instead of english
20:27 rangi        most likely
20:26 magnuse      looks like our norwegian version of ncip will need some tweaking - i am thinking maybe a separate set of xml templates will tke care of a good chunk of it
20:26 Dyrcona      yay!
20:25 rangi        yay!
20:24 magnuse      btw last thing i did on friday was i managed to turn a RequestItem call into a hold in koha - man that felt good :-)
20:24 Dyrcona      They seem to be in short supply.
20:24 Dyrcona      heh
20:23 * magnuse    will send some round tuits when gets around to it
20:23 magnuse      :-)
20:23 rangi        heh i probably should, its just a matter of getting time
20:21 magnuse      ooh, rangi and Dyrcona - now you get to argue about who should merge the Dyrcona-branch of NCIPServer into master ;-)
20:19 Dyrcona      afternoon. :)
20:19 magnuse      evening
20:16 rangi        morning
19:50 tcohen       bye #koha
19:40 magnuse      ooh
19:34 drojf        you
19:34 drojf        and now yo are one
19:29 * magnuse    likes memes
19:29 magnuse      yay
19:22 * barton     takes note of 'the evening wave'. This is a meme he will propagate.
19:21 * magnuse    gives the evening wave
19:04 JesseM       okay I have to run out . bbiab
18:57 drojf        or maybe that is something different
18:53 drojf        i think they are ordered by 'quality'. whatever that may be. completeness. what a weird way to sort
18:50 barton|lunch cait: I finally got a chance to test marc import -- it worked fine... so it looks like a configuation issue of some sort.
17:33 cait         bbiab
17:32 cait         i think it's a comma separated string
17:32 cait         i think it amends/removes or something
17:32 drojf        *neither
17:32 drojf        it's neithr alphabetical (name or code) nor order of installation
17:31 drojf        it looks like that, but how is the sequence from the pref determined then? :)
17:30 cait         drojf: hm i thimk it's the sequence from the pref
17:30 drojf        how is the order of available languages determined in the opac?
16:59 drojf        [off] "xxx offers VuFind professional support for implementing this open source tool. All the installations in Spain have been commissioned to xxx" <-- that's a funny thing to say about a free software product. how would you know that?
16:38 reiveune     bye
16:26 barton       well ... s/HEAD/master/
16:23 cait         barton: sounds good
16:20 barton       .. I'm going to upgrade that instance to HEAD and see if I run into the same issue, just to prove that it's not a configuration thing.
16:18 barton       cait: I just tested a khoadevbox that I brought up a couple of days ago -- I was able to import the same file under
16:17 jeff         WRITE "Good "; GREETING_TIME; ", "; LOGIN_NAME
16:14 bag          morning barton
16:14 barton       morning bag!
16:13 barton       cait yeah. that was my reaction too.
16:12 cait         ew
16:12 barton       I just tried and failed to import a marc file under head ( ... it tells me that the records imported correctly and are staged, but when I click on the 'manage staged records' link, the filename is blank, there are no staged records displayed, and the import_batches hasn't been updated.
16:07 barton       good $TIME_OF_DAY koha!
15:58 tcohen       Joubu: i've been on another stuff today, sorry
15:58 cait         Joubu: marcelr ran into the ame problem it looks like
15:58 cait         Joubu: hm don't think so
15:56 Joubu        (and Hi #koha!)
15:56 Joubu        tcohen, cait: Is the issue with permissions solved?
15:44 drojf        oh the meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then
15:43 drojf        looks like there haven't been much nominations http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising
15:41 bag          morning all
15:31 kivilahtio   tcohen: thanks for the tip!
15:31 kivilahtio   Test::Deep is very good
15:31 tcohen       kivilahtio: you could check what is_deeply does
15:29 chris_n      tcohen: tnx
15:27 mveron       Bye #koha
15:23 fridolin     (see u)
15:23 fridolin     sse u
15:17 kivilahtio   hmm got it http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=121559
15:15 kivilahtio   but I would rather not hack it on my own
15:15 kivilahtio   I guess I could add a subroutine to Koha::Object to do that
15:15 kivilahtio   a bit like java Comparable?
15:15 kivilahtio   and same object class?
15:14 kivilahtio   Does anybody know a good module for comparing two objects for sameness? eg. thay have the same array and hash values?
15:10 tcohen       chris_n: it uses a clean database with all the sample data
15:09 cait         Reserves.t should have some examples i think
15:06 * chris_n    hands cait a donut
15:06 chris_n      cool, thanks
15:04 cait         no need to clean up after your tests
15:04 cait         it makes things quite easy
15:04 cait         did you see the newer tests in db_dependent? they create the data in a transaction that is rolled back in the end
15:03 cait         some of the tests create records/items
15:03 cait         i thik that's correct
15:03 chris_n      those tables are empty
15:02 * chris_n    wonders what he did wrong
15:02 chris_n      cait: I just did a fresh install with the sample data, but it appears to have no biblios or items
14:49 cait         maybe some more than that, but that shoudl give you the basics
14:49 cait         chris_n: i think all the sample data from the web installer
14:45 * chris_n    goes off in search of a donut
14:44 chris_n      anyone else know?
14:38 chris_n      tcohen: what data does jenkins run tests over?
13:00 sophie_m     hi tcohen
12:58 tcohen       hi sophie_m
12:32 cait         jcamins: thx :)
12:32 cait         here now
12:30 tcohen       cait: around?
12:28 tcohen       hola magnuse
12:27 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
12:24 tcohen       morning!
12:01 jcamins      cait: 008/21
11:42 gaetan_B     bye!
11:12 cait         lunch time
11:09 cait         but i try to work through them bugs first then enh by age
11:08 cait         it's on my list
11:08 kivilahtio   cait: can you check Bug 12671 for everybodys sake
11:06 cait         the xslt checks for != m
11:06 drojf        do the index in elasticsearch ;)
11:06 cait         hm yeah seems so
11:06 drojf        monographic series vs. periodical?
11:05 cait         not indexed
11:04 cait         008 - for serials - pos 21 - type of continuing resource
11:03 drojf        :D
11:03 cait         sorry, i am language confused today
11:03 cait         im unterschied zu einer zeitschrift
11:03 cait         mehr sowas wie eine gezähte reihe
11:02 drojf        but do you mean something like herausgeberschrift by sammelwerk? or something else?
11:01 cait         and i also hope it's indexed.... might not be so ucky there
11:00 cait         that's my hope
11:00 drojf        i bet marc has a nice letter somewhere hidden in a control field ;)
11:00 cait         but it's ok... I am investigating
11:00 cait         serial and traced series? :)
10:59 cait         no :)
10:59 drojf        is sammelwerk an english word? :)
10:58 cait         ... does someone know how to differentiate between sammelwerk and zeitschrift by chance?
10:56 wahanui      Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658
10:56 cait         gmcharlt: ping?
10:56 cait         i really miss huginn
10:55 marcelr      i will wait with my report 13839
10:55 marcelr      ok
10:55 cait         i think it's really a good and needed enh
10:55 cait         but it seems working very well now
10:54 cait         yeah this one has a long story
10:54 wahanui      passed qa is the queue jcamins should watch
10:54 marcelr      passed qa..
10:54 cait         bit different to your dev, but it will allwo to set opacitemholds in the circ matrix - so force item level holds by itemtype
10:54 cait         marcelr: bug 5786
10:54 wahanui      i think which one is that? The fixed navbar?
10:54 marcelr      which one?
10:54 cait         marcelr: did yu see the alllowonshelfholds bug?
10:46 mveron       cait: I tested with locale set to de_DE.UTF-8, prove t/Prices.t passes.
10:28 mveron       cait: I'm testing...   :-)
10:28 cait         mveron: i think that might be it - ch vs. de
10:27 mveron       Hi atheia
10:27 atheia       morning mveron
10:15 mveron       Hi #koha
10:02 Viktor       I do of course hope to have so many great candidates to chose from that it will be a bother :)
10:02 Viktor       Not yet :) But I've had at least one engineer (civilingenjör - don't know the english title) who has declared he will apply
10:01 Viktor       Hej Magnuse
10:01 magnuse      hired a koha hacker yet? ;-)
10:01 magnuse      tjänare Viktor!
09:42 cait         good morning :)
09:42 atheia       G'morning:-)
09:42 atheia       Yeah, I don't know how that happened :-)
09:41 cait         he must have sensed us talking about him :)
09:41 magnuse      and great timing too ;-)
09:40 magnuse      yeah atheia++
09:35 cait         atheia++
09:35 ashimema     very lucky to have him
09:35 ashimema     He's a real asset to my team.. can't sing his praises enough :)
09:34 magnuse      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module
09:33 magnuse      yeah alex seems do be doing a fine job on the ill
09:29 ashimema     the more I use it in my other project the more powerful I realise it is..
09:29 ashimema     dbic is awesome.. we should really be using it to it's potential :(
09:27 ashimema     I know I still need to do one for cash man
09:27 cait         yep
09:27 ashimema     I can't remember..
09:27 ashimema     did he submit an RFC yet?
09:26 ashimema     :)
09:26 cait         hope the fingers don't catch fire then
09:26 cait         :)
09:25 ashimema     we've got bugs coming in thick and fast on our github repo and he's fixing them as fast as his fingers can type code ;)
09:25 ashimema     the work is going fast on it..
09:25 ashimema     :)
09:25 cait         presenting it
09:25 ashimema     right now I'm still on cash management, online payments and our other product rebus:list
09:25 cait         he did a good job at the hackfest :)
09:24 ashimema     alex is my ILL man.. i've bascially left it to him for aobut 2 months now magnuse..
09:24 cait         i'd be ok to pass qa if colin says it's fine
09:24 cait         thx
09:24 ashimema     I'll try to get colin to squeeze it in.
09:24 magnuse      yeah, let ashimema focus on ill ;-)
09:24 cait         i understand, just throwing that out there
09:24 ashimema     I'm struggling to fit everything in :(
09:24 magnuse      bensinober++
09:24 ashimema     it's still crazy times here i'm afraid cait..
09:23 cait         written by khall, tested by bensinober
09:23 cait         bug 13411 for example
09:22 ashimema     morning cait
09:22 cait         those are a bit stuck (as usual)
09:22 wahanui      okay, cait.
09:22 cait         i am also looking for someone to qa the sip patches
09:22 cait         morning ashimema
09:21 ashimema     ack.. no huggin
09:21 ashimema     bug 13531
09:20 wahanui      http://youtu.be/B1BdQcJ2ZYY
09:20 magnuse      bots?
09:20 magnuse      yes, according to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
09:20 cait         hm not sure maybe gmcharlt
09:20 magnuse      who do we poke?
09:19 cait         aaah no huginn
09:19 cait         @later tell ashimema could you take another look at bug 13531 - i am not sure if i tested correctly
09:18 marcelr      hi cait
09:18 cait         marcelr: problem with the web installer
09:18 cait         marcelr: good to know it's not only me
09:09 wahanui      hello, gaetan_B
09:09 gaetan_B     hello
08:43 drojf        the mapping looks really handy, compared to what you have to do with zebra. (at least if it's really only the sql i am looking at right now)
08:42 magnuse      i guess part of the attraction is that once the basics are working, future tweaking will be easier and have more documentation
08:42 magnuse      yeah, it's early days
08:40 cait         yeah i guess there isa lot to test and find
08:40 cait         ah
08:37 drojf        looks like es only searches the title
08:36 drojf        searching for 'house': with zebra 17 result, with elasticsearch 8
08:29 drojf        but i had to start from scratch installing a jessie vm and all
08:29 cait         drojf: heh
08:28 drojf        cait: yes. only took like all yesterday evening and and some more this morning ;)
08:28 cait         Joubu: did you see bug 13836?
08:28 drojf        magnuse: meh :P
08:28 magnuse      drojf++ eythian++
08:28 cait         oh you got it orking?
08:28 magnuse      ;-)
08:27 magnuse      drojf: that it looks and works as identical to zebra as possible
08:27 drojf        so, now that i have that working elasticsearch branch, what is the fun part about it?
08:25 drojf        eythian++ #elasticsearch
08:25 drojf        what's wrong with my 'u'? :/
08:24 drojf        squeaks even
08:24 * drojf      sqeaks
08:24 drojf        978 records indexed.
08:24 drojf        Indexing biblios
08:24 drojf        mirko@jessie:~/koha$ sudo PERL5LIB=/home/mirko/koha KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml perl misc/search_tools/rebuild_elastic_search.pl -v -d
08:22 marcelr      :)
08:22 drojf        hi marcelr
08:22 marcelr      hi #koha
08:13 drojf        and i don't have time to fix all the wiki pages that annoy me
08:13 drojf        i would have put it on the wiki, but i fail to see what page it would go on, as we have something between two and hundred different pages dealing with git/dev setups but gitify is only mentioned for ubuntu
08:11 fridolin     hie all
08:09 sophie_m     hi #koha
08:06 drojf        yep. fixed
08:03 wahanui      hello, alex_a
08:03 alex_a       Bonjour
08:03 drojf        oh, maybe this http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Gitified_install_returns_403_errors
07:54 drojf        no regular instance worked fine and after gitify it#s broken
07:53 magnuse      or is it just the gitified instance?
07:53 magnuse      if you create a regular instance, does that have the same symptoms?
07:50 drojf        i chmodded all to 755 in the dev directory, did not help though. i can't recall having this before and that was as much patience as i can bring up on a monday morning
07:42 cait         bbiab
07:41 drojf        sounds like wrong permissions
07:41 magnuse      drojf: that sounds weird
07:41 magnuse      bonjour reiveune
07:40 wahanui      salut, reiveune
07:40 reiveune     hello
07:39 drojf        oh. it's a lot of 403 forbidden errors when i try to open koha
07:38 magnuse      what happens?
07:38 magnuse      can't think of any
07:37 drojf        any reason why koha-gitify would not work on jessie?
07:26 dcook        Oh man... yeah I still have hard disks from 2002...
07:24 dcook        The regular hours thing is interesting
07:23 dcook        hehe
07:22 dcook        Oh, I was just thinking of you, liw!
07:22 liw          http://lifehacker.com/linus-torvalds-home-office-with-walking-desk-and-3d-pr-1617261060
07:20 magnuse      google for "walk desk"
07:20 dcook        But need to focus a bit more when running or using arms
07:20 dcook        I occasionally go on my phone when I'm doing legs :p
07:19 magnuse      i have heard of people who have those walking machines in front of their desks...
07:19 dcook        I could see that leading to some sort of weird split personality thing though...
07:19 dcook        The body works out, and the brain does the programming :D
07:19 dcook        It would be sweet if we could train while programming...
07:18 * drojf      goes back to bed
07:18 drojf        orrr
07:18 drojf        *compters
07:18 drojf        are there compters at the gym?
07:15 dcook        is now debating* :p
07:15 * dcook      is not debating whether to go to the gym or play on computers at home after spending 9 hours on computers at work
07:15 dcook        \o/
07:12 magnuse      waiting for the old system to export the data
07:12 * magnuse    will probably finish a migration this week too
07:04 dcook        :)
07:04 magnuse      fingers crossed!
07:04 magnuse      ah, cool!
07:04 dcook        Have a system going live tomorrow as well so last minute touch ups..
07:03 dcook        Late in this morning due to long post office lines
07:03 dcook        You know it!
07:03 magnuse      time to pack up, eh?
07:03 magnuse      hiya dcook!
07:01 * dcook      waves
06:58 magnuse      moin drojf
06:57 drojf        hei magnuse
06:54 magnuse      kia ora cait
06:53 magnuse      eythian still around?
06:51 * magnuse    waves
06:42 drojf        morning
05:48 dcook        :O
05:48 eythian      missing huginn
05:48 eythian      oh
05:48 eythian      @wunder nzwn
04:52 mtj          my version is a bit hacky, atm - but basically seems to handle the responseive stuff ok
04:49 mtj          i wonder if its worth adding a working version back into koha?
04:49 mtj          [off] http://k316xfs.xen1.kohaaloha.com
04:48 mtj          ive attempted to add that style into a koha
04:47 mtj          hey, remember how the 'opacsmallimage' syspref was removed from boostrap..
03:26 twb          Yeah, no worries
03:21 rangi        hope that makes some sense
03:21 rangi        when 3.20 comes out in may, 3.14.x will be out of support
03:21 rangi        (we do six monthly feature releases and monthly(ish) maintenance ones)
03:21 rangi        so we currently have 3.14, 3.16, and 3.18 being supported
03:20 rangi        we usually maintain each major release for 18mths
03:20 twb          OK
03:19 rangi        however there have been a couple of security releases since 3.14.09 .. the latest is 3.14.13
03:19 twb          I'll mention it to $boss
03:19 rangi        3.14.x is still maintained but only for a few more months
03:19 twb          The site only has one librarian and they really only use it for OPAC, so koha doesn't get much love
03:18 twb          har har test server
03:18 rangi        3.14.09 is fairly old now
03:18 rangi        but id do that on a test server first
03:18 rangi        speaking of upgrades, one day in the future you'll want to upgrade koha itself too :)
03:18 twb          OK I will stop freaking out :-)
03:17 eythian      that is quite possible
03:17 rangi        most likely
03:17 twb          Maybe it was just that the cron job happened to run partway through the upgrade earlier
03:16 twb          OK I just ran "koha-rebuild-zebra -q k1" as root by hand and that didn't give an error.
03:16 rangi        you can check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
03:15 twb          OK, lemme try to remember how to get to koha...
03:15 rangi        thats fine, it checks everytime
03:14 twb          http://sprunge.us/ReAJ is that "corrupt" line normal?  I am used to postgres.
03:14 twb          I'll restart its service for good measure
03:14 twb          I can see mysql running in ps
03:13 eythian      I would also expect that your koha isn't working, with the same error
03:13 eythian      it probably went down for the updates, and for some reason didn't start up again.
03:13 twb          OK thanks, trying that now
03:12 eythian      oh, just mysql, not mysql-server
03:12 eythian      or something along those lines
03:12 eythian      sudo service mysql-server restart
03:12 eythian      you probably don't have mysql running
03:11 twb          http://sprunge.us/QIei
03:11 twb          I have a koha 3.14.09 server set up by some subcontractor, on debian 7.  I belatedly applied some security upgrades, and now I'm getting an email from cron that I don't know how to deal with.
00:32 dcook        gmcharlt++