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23:31 tcohen night everyone
23:29 dcook eythian: Still time for you to grab a ticket to see them :p
23:29 * dcook hasn't made his daily mogwai post yet... :p
23:28 dcook no doubt
23:28 tcohen mogwai++
23:28 dcook eythian: in case you want to hear the songs Mogwai played on Monday night ---> http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Mogwai+Sydney+March+2015/104579711
23:27 dcook Hehe. I had forgotten about this one -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWirGxV7Q8
23:24 dcook Slowly but surely I'm trying to push that way though
23:24 dcook Such a pity
23:24 tcohen ah, that's a pity
23:24 dcook We don't use packages though :(
23:23 tcohen dcook: maybe just upgrade them to 3.20 in may? =D
23:22 * dcook blames the upcoming full moon
23:22 dcook Just no time :S
23:22 dcook Plack*
23:22 dcook I keep thinking about trying to get a few of our sites set up on Plackc
23:21 dcook That's great :)
23:21 tcohen adminsitration scripts, default configurations, koha-create tweaks, koha-plack tool, etc
23:21 tcohen we are preparing the ground for it actually
23:18 dcook eythian: Any recommendations or is it all good?
23:18 dcook That would be awesome :)
23:18 dcook tcohen++
23:17 tcohen that's it
23:17 tcohen we are working on plack out-of-the-box plack support on packages installs
23:16 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
23:16 mtompset plack?
23:16 tcohen mtompset: thanks anyway
23:16 tcohen yes but that's not what I'm trying to do
23:15 mtompset plack set up by default.
23:15 mtompset tcohen: Why not use the kohadev box?
23:14 tcohen dpavlin: i've solved the configuration for plack
22:58 eythian https://tugboatannie.bandcamp.com/album/the-space-around-you <-- in case anyone likes the sort of easy-going alt/indie rock sorta stuff, this is pretty good.
22:26 dcook Poor unicorn..
22:26 dcook Oh snap
22:25 dcook O_O
22:14 eythian https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lonelywhale/help-us-find-lonely-whale
22:14 eythian damnit, pretend it was the one about the whale
22:14 wahanui i guess the saddest thing is http://i39.tinypic.com/14jz15f.jpg
22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:14 wahanui the saddest thing is http://careydraws.tumblr.com/post/74224444875/written-in-the-bones-new-comic-written-by
22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:14 wahanui the saddest thing is http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2014/02070836-isee-3.html
22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:14 wahanui the saddest thing is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itanium_Sales_Forecasts_edit.png
22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:13 wahanui hmmm... the saddest thing is http://careydraws.tumblr.com/post/74224444875/written-in-the-bones-new-comic-written-by
22:13 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:13 wahanui the saddest thing is probably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itanium_Sales_Forecasts_edit.png
22:13 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:13 wahanui the saddest thing is, like, http://cooleycooley.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/the-loneliest-unicorn.html
22:13 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing
22:12 wahanui rumour has it scoreboard is at http://scoreboard.koha-community.org
22:12 eythian wahanui: scoreboard
22:11 cait woohoo :)
22:09 dcook yo barton :)
22:09 rangi scoreboard updated
22:09 barton hi dcook!
22:08 barton eythian: w00t!
22:08 * dcook waves
22:08 barton evening tcohen!
22:07 tcohen hi barton
21:58 eythian I haven't built that yet :)
21:58 wizzyrea ;)
21:58 eythian that's because to count the number of biblios in use, koha actually goes and runs a search for each one.
21:58 wizzyrea I assumed that fit in under "many other things"
21:58 eythian yep
21:58 wizzyrea heh, "used in 0 records " clicked > comes back with a record
21:57 eythian (paging doesn't work yet, that's expected, along with many other things :)
21:57 eythian http://elasticsearch.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl?op=do_search&type=opac&operator=contains&value=robert&marclist=any&and_or=and&orderby=HeadingAsc <-- the beginnings of authority support in elasticsearch
21:55 jmsasse Viel Spass?
21:55 cjh_ :D
21:54 cait1 ja :)
21:54 jmsasse cait: Sind Sie im Frankreich?
21:53 cait1 :)
21:53 cait1 hi jmsasse
21:52 jmsasse Hi cait
21:39 cait1 hi
21:34 eythian hi
21:30 drojf good night #koha
21:01 wnickc hi cait
20:59 * cait1 waves
20:25 wnickc thanks rangi and drojf
20:21 drojf oh i should scroll down all the way. nevermind :D
20:21 drojf wnickc: do you have that in your icu file?
20:19 rangi wnickc: it's to do with the charmaps in the icu stuff
20:17 jmsasse no problemo
20:17 talljoy sorry about that.
20:17 jmsasse thanks : )
20:16 talljoy i just pinged her. i had her working on a project. my apologies. she is calling now
20:16 jmsasse talljoy: haven't heard from her yet.
20:16 talljoy ok
20:16 jmsasse Dani and I were to have a conf call at 2 today.
20:15 talljoy whats up jmsasse
20:15 * talljoy listens
20:15 wnickc anyone know why searching for "Indridason" doesn't work to pull up "Indraðason"? I know they are different characters, but "Bronte" seems to pull up "Brontë"
20:15 jmsasse talljoy: you got your ears on?
20:11 drojf that's what i was thinking ;)
20:10 rangi that'll work well :)
20:10 rangi heh more bug statuses when people can't even use the ones we have consistently
20:08 drojf i'd blame hotmail
20:07 rangi you'd only get that if it had 10 bounces from you
20:06 drojf but on koha-devel, not on the main list
20:06 drojf yes
20:06 mtompset Did you reply to any list emails?
20:05 drojf (get such an email)
20:05 drojf hi mtompset. i didn't
20:05 mtompset Serves me right for upgrading my VirtualBox while on IRC. :)
20:03 mtompset "Your membership in the mailing list Koha has been disabled due to excessive bounces..."
20:02 mtompset Did anyone else get the you're disabled email message?
19:43 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:29 reiveune bye
16:14 francharb I'm going to comment and reassigne the issue to simith
16:13 wahanui perfect is the enemy of good
16:13 francharb Perfect!
16:13 khall francharb: that is exactly what we have in mind
16:10 francharb is it what you had in mind?
16:10 francharb khall, do you agree?
16:09 francharb if yes, we display the edit guarantor box on the patron edit page
16:09 francharb by default, we will have "yes" for child and professional categories
16:08 francharb On the patron category page, there will be a new button like "display the edit garantor information box" : yes | no
16:07 francharb I just have a last question to implement this correctly
16:07 francharb khall, do you have to go as well?
16:07 nengard must run
16:06 khall no, the switch was actually my idea. That will be more than satisfy our requirements.
16:06 francharb we should not have been able to save it
16:06 nengard that's exploiting the bug ....
16:06 francharb to me something was missing, we added it. to you, it was a bug from the beginning
16:05 francharb then, you can see the guarantor and guarantee information on each card
16:05 francharb It works on my installation
16:05 francharb save
16:05 wahanui francharb: that doesn't look right
16:05 francharb change the patron categorie to an adult category
16:05 francharb I click the "add children" button
16:04 francharb nengard, I'm on a patron card (adult)
16:04 francharb khall, like I said, we will add a swith in the patron categorie. What was worring me is that, I had the feeling we were about to do something that should have be done differently
16:04 drojf hi again
16:03 dpavlin tcohen: with some creative ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse it's possible to run just one plack for both opac and intranet
16:03 nengard it's a patch that's adding a feature that exploits a bug :(
16:02 dpavlin tcohen: WRT/ plack -- you will probably kill me (or something ;-) but I'm NOT running two plack processes for intranet and opac
16:02 nengard francharb, you can't link adults to adults now - not really. the 'feature' you speak of is a bug. if you link a child to an adult and then change the child to an adult the adults are still linked - but i see no other way to do it
16:02 khall francharb: the simple fact is that the patch negatively affects some users in a way that cannot be disabled. Until it can be enabled only for certain types of patrons it cannot pass qa.
16:02 bag wow jajm - that’s nice
16:01 francharb I thought you could't remove a block of information but just fields in this block...
16:01 francharb but like nengard said, we can already hide the other parts by hiding every field
16:00 francharb it's about, what sounds to me part of another feature
16:00 francharb khall, it's not about patching later
15:59 francharb ok
15:59 francharb I just learned something ahah
15:59 nengard yes
15:59 francharb nengard, does it remove the block title as well?
15:59 nengard and libraries want it on children
15:59 nengard i cannot remove the guarantor that way because it will remove it from children and adults
15:58 nengard i can remove the alternate address using the borrowerunwantedfields system preference
15:58 francharb I agree we should do something
15:58 khall francharb: unfortunately the qa standard for koha isn't "push now, patch later" it's "patch now, push when it's ready"
15:58 francharb I understand where it comes from
15:58 francharb I understand, I have the same query, could you remove the alternate address, etc.
15:57 nengard they will ask how to turn it off and right now I can't do that
15:57 nengard I see how it would be useful to academic libraries - but public libraries will find it confusing, unecessary, and in the way
15:56 nengard Adding that feature will cause a huge uproar as it stands now :( so it's an evil that many libraries can't afford
15:55 francharb adding small feature that should be maybe done on a bigger scale
15:55 khall in this example I had a perfectly functional feature, but it needed much extra work to make it into master ( which it hasn't yet )
15:55 francharb khall, as a developer, do you think its a necessary evil (if i may say so)
15:54 khall we can't let something into master in a half-baked manner
15:54 francharb I just want your point of view
15:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac
15:54 khall francharb: you can see an example of this on bug 9303
15:54 nengard okay
15:54 francharb on the development guide line
15:54 francharb because there is something for the community
15:53 francharb but can we just talk briefly on this
15:53 nengard cool!
15:53 francharb nengard, khall, we are going to add what you want
15:53 nengard It shouldn't be too hard to add an on/off option for libraries who don't want this
15:53 nengard I love your feature - but it can't be on for everyone, it's something i know will upset many public libraries in the USA
15:53 khall jajm: that's fantastic!
15:53 francharb khall,
15:53 nengard I'm confused francharb
15:52 jajm_ khall, tcohen, Joubu, ... here is a POC of a REST API implementation with Mojolicious and its Swagger plugin: https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/mojolicious-rest-api
15:52 khall that's just how it is, I've been in the exact same situation many times
15:52 francharb I tested on master
15:52 francharb nengard, I just did
15:52 francharb but it feels like we are trying to patch something quickly that should be done on a bigger scale
15:52 khall which cannot be turned off
15:52 nengard new functions need on/off switches
15:52 nengard and it will upset many libraries
15:51 nengard But it is. Right now Koha can't add adults as guarantees and so with this new patch you add new functionality
15:51 francharb a swith to display the guarantor information, why not
15:51 francharb it's not adding a feature to this feature
15:51 francharb what really bug me
15:51 francharb cool
15:50 khall me too
15:50 francharb :)
15:50 nengard i'm here
15:50 francharb ?
15:50 huginn 04Bug 12446: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, In Discussion , Enable an adult to have a guarantor
15:50 francharb hi nengard, are you available to talk about this : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12446
15:44 nlegrand :)
15:34 magnuse hiya nlegrand
15:26 nengard :)
15:26 nengard oh - you meant hey nlegrand
15:26 nengard hi
15:26 clrh hey nengard :)
15:22 nlegrand Hey #koha !
15:05 magnuse bag: HI
15:05 bag http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Current_state_of_plack_.28March_2015.29
15:05 wahanui kia ora, bag
15:05 bag magnuse: HI
14:47 * dpavlin ignore this -- it was part of commit message :-)
14:47 dpavlin really? irc bot now has a opinion about my patch?!
14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
14:47 wahanui hmmm... Bug 13789 is just XSS security hole for now. We are using [% SET foo = foo _ 'bar'
14:47 dpavlin Joubu: Bug 13789
13:51 talljoy hola magnuse!
13:51 magnuse bonjour talljoy
13:49 talljoy hiya cait!
13:49 cait1 morning talljoy :)
13:42 talljoy morning!
13:40 francharb Hi all
13:05 cait1 22nd usually or around that
12:55 gaetan_B around the end of may it seems ?
12:54 gaetan_B tcohen: do we have a release date for 3.20 ?
12:39 cait1 guess we don't have a lucky day today
12:36 huginn magnuse: ashimema was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <ashimema> ;)
12:36 magnuse @seen ashimema
12:36 dpavlin I was just wondering if word "port" should be part of filename, but it's probably not needed
12:35 tcohen you said you didn't like plack.${interface}
12:35 tcohen naming schema for the files
12:34 dpavlin tcohen: yap.
12:23 tcohen available?
12:23 tcohen dpavlin:
11:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, NEW , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
11:21 dpavlin Joubu: no, bug 13789 is just XSS security hole for now. We are using [% SET foo = foo _ 'bar' | url %] in our code, but it doesn't do anything :-\
11:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
11:20 dpavlin dsadasdsadsa
11:20 bag bug 11559
11:18 dpavlin Joub
11:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, NEW , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
11:08 Joubu dpavlin: does bug 13789 ready to be tested?
11:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13793 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The installer does not output the result of the update using Plack
11:08 Joubu dpavlin: patch sent on bug 13793
10:56 wahanui privet, tcohen
10:56 tcohen bonjour
10:18 magnuse_ dpavlin++ Joubu++
10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Plack out of the box
10:09 dpavlin Joubu: ok, plack bug 13791 is now live :-) attach your code there :-))
10:05 cait ...and we are back
09:30 cait it's been a bit of struggle to stay online this morning :(
09:19 ashimema ;)
09:19 drojf hm yes i see a lot of ping timeouts again when i scroll back
09:17 drojf i think phone line would have been possible :D never looked into that
09:17 ashimema unless of course anyone has a dial in phone conference thingy we could use to listen in ;).. but that still relies on someone's phone line
09:16 ashimema drojf, I think their internets isn't really good enough for that..
09:16 drojf asking again if someone in marseille would care to share their microphone for the presentations/discussions :P
09:14 dpavlin I got side-tracked by facets encoding problem today, but I will open it later today if nobody beats to to it....
09:13 dpavlin Joubu: not yet.
09:10 cait and organize events
09:10 cait lobbying for funding
09:09 cait koha gruppo italiano, 3 libraries in rome
09:09 atheia morning :-)
09:09 cait morning atheia
09:08 cait kind of introductory slides now
09:08 cait please feel free to correct any mistakes
09:08 cait trying to give some notes about the elastic search presentation
09:05 Joubu dpavlin: did you open a new bug report for plack stuffs?
08:59 akafred Koha in Docker (with Docker intro): My slot at 10 am has been hijacked! :) Trying again at 2 pm. cc: fridolin, khall
08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , Add intranet support for CAS authentication
08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12887 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , User logged out on refresh after CAS authentication
08:50 matts hello ashimema ! I've seen that you wanted to QA Bug 12887... There's no patch for it yet, but you can QA Bug 13507, which is signed-off, if you want to :)
08:41 sophie_m2 hi #koha
08:20 matts hi !
08:13 magnuse cet bon!
08:12 bag amelia++
08:11 gaetan_B ça va ?
08:11 gaetan_B bonjour magnuse
08:11 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
08:09 dpavlin
08:08 ashimema lol
08:08 ashimema at the moment for me, I'm getting 10 or so messages at a time.. or with relevant timestamps attached, but it aint half confusing trying to work out who was replying to who
08:08 cait dpavlin just promised working internets :)
08:07 cait bit worried if we do during the day it will get a bit hard to pay attention
08:07 ashimema Hows about we leave that #accounts-rewrite chat open today and talk as an when the connections get less laggy..
08:07 cait should we kind of try to do it now... set a time after lunch?
08:07 cait ok, joining the chat room
08:05 bag yes ashimema big lag here
08:05 bag mainly what I was looking for - if anyone had any idea on how we could present the accounts rewrite - patch series etc - in a better manner
08:04 cait but not sure how stable this is
08:04 ashimema I'm happy to chat though.. perhaps squeeze in chat throughout the day if we're struggling with tinterweb
08:04 cait i guess i am back
08:04 ashimema feels like there's a real lag here..
08:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:04 cait @wunder marseille
08:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:04 cait @wunder Marseille
08:03 bag ok ashimema - rest up
08:03 ashimema I'm here.. though not very awake.. Amelia kept me up all night (and most of yesterday for that matter), so i've not got very far with getting back up to speed
08:02 bag I don’t think we can have a hangout - internet is too slow
08:01 bag Joubu ^^^
08:01 bag ashimema ^^^^
08:01 bag khall: ^^^^
08:01 bag cait
08:01 bag #accounts-rewrite
07:52 drojf good morning #koha
07:45 reiveune hello
06:07 dcook pianohacker: Hope you don't have to stay up too late... even if the day does start at noon :p
06:07 dcook Anywho, later folks
06:07 dcook Works fine if you use an Adobe plugin though
06:07 dcook Prints out gibberish :S
06:07 dcook Wow, apparently Firefox can't properly render some PDFs...
05:05 dcook I've said it before and I'll say it again, I need a minion
05:04 dcook They'll get a person every time
05:04 dcook Phone calls and emails
05:01 pianohacker bye Francesca_ :)
05:01 Francesca_ see ya later #koha, pianohacker it was fun talking to you
05:00 * Francesca_ waves goodbye
04:58 * Francesca_ is surprised at how quickly everyone has gone silent
04:55 Francesca_ it was fun
04:55 pianohacker heh, nice
04:54 Francesca_ when I was at the academy I explained the doctors regeneration cycle on here
04:54 Francesca_ you'll survive
04:54 pianohacker whatever shall we do
04:54 pianohacker oh no, a doctor who fan in #koha
04:54 Francesca_ I'll have to set that on mac as well
04:53 Francesca_ hahaha I'm really pleased with my quit message
04:53 Francesca_ right I'm back
04:53 dcook And no idea when I'll be back O_O
04:53 dcook Hmm, yep, rather far from home these days
04:52 wahanui mtompset: excuse me?
04:52 mtompset You're excused, wahanui. :)
04:52 wahanui mtompset: excuse me?
04:52 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. #koha francesca eythian pianohacker dcook even you silly bot, wahanui. :)
04:52 pianohacker I guess I'll have to concede defeat
04:52 francesca brb all, i'll talk to you all back on my mac os
04:51 mtompset I'm more boring than you, pianohacker. :P
04:51 pianohacker haha nice
04:51 mtompset I'm in the house I was in during highschool! :P
04:51 eythian yep
04:51 * Francesca_ has switched back to mac
04:51 eythian oh, I think there was paradise in there somewhere too.
04:51 pianohacker eythian: ah but their tlds and ip blocks move on
04:50 mtompset Well, I'm going to watch some netflix and go to sleep.
04:50 pianohacker mtompset: I'm in my home state, even, only two hours from my hometown... guess we're the boring ones
04:50 eythian so now telstraclear doesn't really exist here any more
04:50 eythian the brief history is saturn -> telstra -> telstraclear -> vodafone
04:50 mtompset I'm Canadian and I'm in Canada (now) :)
04:50 dcook Telstra is everywhere O_O
04:50 francesca pianohacker: all good :)
04:50 dcook pianohacker: I've made the same mistake
04:50 pianohacker yup
04:50 eythian oh, you saw telstra :)
04:50 francesca my step-fathers from canada
04:49 pianohacker sorry :)
04:49 dcook francesca: I'm originally from Canada, so I sort of get it :p
04:49 pianohacker dammit, shows what happens when I assume from vague knowledge of ISPs...
04:49 francesca never call me an australian
04:49 francesca definantly
04:49 francesca hold on I'm just gonna switch back to mac
04:49 dcook Better than calling her Australian, I guess :p
04:49 eythian that's such an insult!
04:49 wahanui pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
04:49 eythian geez, pianohacker
04:49 mtompset pianohacker: You didn't scroll back. :P
04:49 dcook hehe
04:49 francesca NZ
04:49 francesca Nope
04:49 pianohacker you're in Australia, I'm guessing?
04:48 pianohacker francesca: I'm over in Colorado in America, thus dcook's comments about my bedtime :)
04:48 francesca pianohacker: i might also show up as Francesca_
04:48 francesca hahaha thats funny
04:48 pianohacker on the same level as hunter2 imo
04:48 pianohacker hahahaha yup that's a classic
04:47 eythian http://www.bash.org/?142934 <-- beware of talking to people who are far away
04:47 francesca where abouts in the world are you pianohacker?
04:46 pianohacker very cool
04:45 francesca i auditioned for classical voice at uni
04:45 francesca I also sing, and play the recorder
04:45 pianohacker what else do you play?
04:45 francesca its one of my instruments
04:45 francesca lol yeah
04:45 pianohacker francesca: cool! That's why you're so familiar with pianos :)
04:44 pianohacker mtompset: it's always a tradeoff; you're balancing between having such heavy action that your hands get tired and such light action that you can't precisely control loudness
04:44 francesca and then I do all of the fun web stuff at koha
04:44 francesca so I do music studies
04:44 francesca but i didnt get in
04:44 francesca I wanted to do performance
04:44 mtompset performance or compositional, francesca?
04:44 francesca also I like to build/fix/design websites for fun
04:43 francesca I'm francesca (obviosuly) first year music student at Victoria uni in wellington
04:43 dcook Sydney isn't so remote..
04:43 francesca pianohacker: since you've introduced yourself its my turn
04:43 mtompset The action was so light to the touch. These Yamaha and other pianos I played... I didn't like the touch.
04:43 dcook errr was*
04:43 * dcook is from a rather remote country town though
04:43 dcook yay free labour...
04:43 dcook I did a "computers" class in high school... and it was basically me just doing the administration's computer work
04:43 francesca i was good at webpages and stuff
04:43 * dcook is so envious
04:42 francesca I did computing at school
04:42 dcook francesa: Did you do much with computers before the academy?
04:42 mtompset heintzman piano... That's what I played growing up.
04:42 dcook Mmm
04:41 francesca I had a friend doing that
04:41 francesca the recent one was the 2014/2015 academy
04:41 francesca oh it was the 2013/2014 academy
04:41 francesca makes more sense that way
04:41 dcook Because wasn't there just a 2014 academy recently?
04:41 dcook francesa: I'm thinking maybe it was 2013?
04:40 pianohacker sweet!
04:40 dcook Well, timezones and such too
04:40 francesca or was it 2013..
04:40 eythian pianohacker: francesca is one of our vict^Wacademy students who hung around :)
04:40 pianohacker dcook: shows how much a ghost grad school has made me...
04:40 francesca I did the academy back in 2014
04:40 dcook francesca has definitely been around a while
04:40 francesca you too
04:40 pianohacker francesca: ah, okay. I have seen your name pop up a few times, come to think of it. Good to meet you :)
04:39 francesca and I only switched to mainly irc work this year
04:39 francesca but I've only just cloned into hea-app
04:39 francesca pianohacker: yes and no. I've been doing stuff for koha as a volunter for almost a year now I guess
04:39 dcook pianohacker: I thought it was yesterday, but I was looking at February :p
04:39 dcook I guess the full moon is tomorrow
04:39 pianohacker we not allowed to have full moons in march?
04:38 dcook Ah wait this is March
04:38 pianohacker I'm Jesse Weaver, by the way, a programmer with ByWater Solutions and recovering college student
04:38 dcook So I've been getting tons of phone calls and emails today... so I made a crack about it being a full moon out
04:38 pianohacker francesca: out of curiosity, are you a new contributor/librarian? Can't say I've seen you around these parts before (though I'm not here much these days)
04:37 francesca maybe I'll ask rangi tomorrow or something
04:37 francesca I just have to figure out how to get it to run
04:37 francesca hea-app looks very cool
04:36 francesca non-weighted keys
04:36 francesca the keyboard is a yamaha
04:36 pianohacker very nice
04:36 pianohacker what kind? (and hea-app sounds cool, I heard mutterings about it at the last hackfest or kohacon '13 but that was a while back)
04:35 francesca the piano at my mums was lucky. it was my grandfathers, left to my aunt but she didnt have the space at her flat in auckland so it came to me
04:35 francesca I have a keyboard in my room
04:35 francesca sounds cool
04:34 francesca hea-app is all set up now
04:34 francesca Sweet
04:34 pianohacker for now, I'm sticking to my halfway decent casio weighted electric...
04:34 * francesca is installing git
04:34 pianohacker yeahhhhh I've heard yamaha makes great grands
04:34 pianohacker I haven't played on either brand, but there are definitely some uprights that sound a lot tinnier and harpsichordy than others
04:34 francesca thats the best piano I've played so far
04:33 francesca but theres a really nice grand (or baby grand) yamaha (I think) that lives at the music school
04:33 francesca I prefer the bernstein which lives at my mums
04:33 francesca my dad has a kawai upright
04:33 francesca wow
04:32 pianohacker My piano teacher had a Steinway concert grand that was a joy to play on (still the best piano I've ever played) but required special floor supports to be installed
04:32 francesca hmmm quite possibly
04:32 pianohacker yeah... or possibly the floor strength :)
04:31 francesca we don't have anywhere enough room for a grand
04:31 francesca upright
04:30 pianohacker upright or grand?
04:29 mtompset So which one of you is Anna? :P
04:29 francesca pianohacker: piano is a bernstein
04:29 * mtompset laughs.
04:29 dcook lol
04:29 pianohacker mtompset: O_o
04:29 dcook I see
04:29 dcook Ah
04:29 francesca the poor movers then had to cart it up a steep path and several steps
04:29 dcook mtompset: O_o
04:29 mtompset I think dcook and pianohacker use the same greetings script. :P
04:29 pianohacker what kind of piano?
04:28 pianohacker especially long distances, with humidity and whatnot
04:28 francesca my piano came from auckland
04:28 francesca pianos are hard to move
04:28 pianohacker yo mtompset
04:28 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker
04:28 pianohacker (and so easy to mess up)
04:28 pianohacker you don't see professional refrigerator moving companies, or professional mattress moving companies, but people can make good money moving pianos just because it's so much work
04:28 dcook Just saying
04:28 dcook Also, neither of us play the piano
04:28 * dcook didn't want to go insane...er.
04:28 dcook We also have really narrow stairways
04:27 dcook It looked like it would've been quite the ordeal
04:27 dcook eythian: My sympathies go to past you
04:27 francesca I unshrunk it
04:27 francesca oh its ok
04:26 francesca how do I make the terminal window shrink?
04:26 eythian I helped move a piano once. It was quite a mission
04:26 francesca lol
04:26 dcook Alas, I refused. I'm sure the piano never even knew it had been hacked.
04:25 dcook My wife almost persuaded me to get a piano for our place, as it was being threatened by people with chainsaws
04:25 francesca ahhh I acidentally fullsized my terminal window
04:25 dcook eythian: Or chainsaw
04:25 dcook hehe
04:25 pianohacker I always like to think the piano is electric
04:24 eythian axe
04:24 francesca how does one hack a piano I wonder
04:24 pianohacker thanks francesca :)
04:24 pianohacker joys of being a college student... both sarcastically in that I have a lot to do and non-sarcastically in that tomorrow begins at noon
04:24 francesca pianohacker: I like your username
04:23 dcook On a week day at least...
04:23 dcook You go to sleep much later than I do O_O
04:23 dcook 9:23pm, eh? Perhaps not bazillion...
04:23 pianohacker still 4 or 5 hours until bedtime :)
04:23 dcook Whoa! pianohacker: isn't it like bazillion o'clock?
04:22 pianohacker back
04:22 francesca that did it
04:22 eythian assuming that's the filename
04:22 eythian cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
04:22 eythian then select it with the mouse
04:22 francesca cat the file?? not sure I understand
04:21 eythian ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub most likely
04:21 eythian you just cat the file
04:21 francesca question: does anyone know how you copy the contents of an ssh key to clipboard using a terminal window command?
04:19 mtompset Great video.
04:19 mtompset I know a bot!
04:19 eythian dcook: there's a video for you
04:19 * dcook looks at his inbox and thinks that bugzilla is going to have to wait a while
04:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13787 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Clean up noisy koha qa tool warnings
04:18 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:18 eythian wahanui: boten anna is <reply>http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8
04:18 mtompset bug 13787
04:18 * francesca is waiting for brackets to install
04:18 mtompset Anyone want an easy patch? :)
04:18 mtompset I know I could have written a better test plan, but adding "var and" to a bunch of things doesn't get my test plan writing juices flowing.
04:17 * dcook got annoyed by everyone else typing the answers he knew before he could type them out :p
04:17 dcook It's how I learned how to type quickly
04:17 dcook Actually, there was a trivia bot I used to interact with in the '90s which was rather great
04:17 mtompset Greetings, francesca dcook eythian. :)
04:17 * francesca waves at mtompset
04:17 dcook Thanks for the compliment :p
04:17 wahanui eythian: huh?
04:17 eythian wahanui: boten anna
04:17 dcook yo mtompset
04:17 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
04:17 dcook Whoa, I almost confessed personal nerd stories about bots back in the '90s
04:17 mtompset No, you're great, dcook. :P
04:17 francesca definantly
04:16 dcook Bots are pretty great
04:16 * francesca is amused at what you can do with the bots
04:16 dcook O_o
04:15 wahanui OK, eythian.
04:15 eythian wahanui: sidewalk is a footpath for crabs
04:14 dcook Mmm left over quesadillas
04:11 francesca thats what I've go I'm pretty sure
04:11 dcook Hmm, looks like I have it setup to use SSH for both
04:10 francesca but i usually work with gitorious so not totally sure
04:09 dcook It's very possible
04:09 francesca I thought you needed ssh to clone and push
04:09 dcook bahah
04:08 dcook Maybe I do have it as HTTPS to clone and SSH to push..
04:08 dcook I work with Github so infrequently that I can't recall my setup..
04:08 eythian http://i.imgur.com/dIUr2Hl.gifv
04:08 dcook wizzyrea: I think you need to have a SSH key set up if you're using ssh to clone?
04:07 francesca I'm back on xchat now for my vm
04:05 dcook :)
04:05 eythian boo-hiss
04:05 * dcook waits for the boo-hiss
04:05 * dcook has a windows machine at work
04:05 francesca but I'm using x-chat azure or something for mac
04:05 dcook Ah, that's it
04:05 francesca I had to use hexchat on windows cas x-chat isnt free for windows
04:04 dcook Then switched to Hexchat for some reason
04:04 dcook I keep thinking I used to use xchat..
04:03 francesca see you later
04:01 rangi and im leaving :)
04:00 francesca I'm back
04:00 * francesca waves
03:53 wizzyrea farewell, sweet francesca
03:53 Francesca_ I shall return when x-chat is installed
03:52 Francesca_ lol
03:52 wizzyrea hehehe
03:51 eythian also, that way you don't have to deal with OSX being annoying and maccy :)
03:51 wizzyrea it's really gonna be easier on you that way :D
03:51 Francesca_ then I can fullscreen and pretend that mac doesn't exist
03:51 wizzyrea coolio
03:51 Francesca_ I'm just installing x-chat for the vm now
03:51 Francesca_ definantly
03:50 wizzyrea :)
03:50 wizzyrea Francesca_: you should know that eythian gives very good advice.
03:50 eythian yeah, I'd install xchat to stop hopping back and forth all the time :)
03:49 Francesca_ so currently I am switching between mac and the vm so I can talk here
03:49 eythian http://time.com/12410/11-of-americans-think-html-is-an-std/
03:49 Francesca_ I already have an irc client for mac
03:49 eythian the vm will probably be most useful if you fullscreen it and pretend OSX doesn't exist.
03:49 Francesca_ yeah
03:48 eythian xchat is a pretty easy to work with IRC client.
03:47 Francesca_ just adding it now
03:47 Francesca_ right key set up
03:46 * Francesca_ really needs to install irc in the vm
03:46 rangi sweet
03:46 Francesca_ just setting up the ssh key now
03:46 rangi and then clone it using that
03:46 Francesca_ I already had one from last time
03:46 rangi so yep set up your ssh key
03:46 rangi cool
03:46 Francesca_ I have a fork in github
03:44 rangi https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app/network <-- like aleisha did
03:44 * wizzyrea is doubly surprised
03:44 wizzyrea oh github
03:44 rangi then clone your fork
03:44 rangi what you want to do is fork it in github first
03:43 wizzyrea much.
03:43 wizzyrea I don't use gitorious though.
03:43 rangi well you'll want the key to push your changes eventually
03:43 * wizzyrea is surprised you need an ssh key to clone
03:42 Francesca_ and then I can clone it to my desktop in the vm
03:42 Francesca_ Just gotta set up a ssh key first
03:38 Francesca_ how would I do that?
03:38 rangi https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app
03:38 Francesca_ hmmm
03:38 rangi your first task would be to get hea running on the virtual machine
03:38 Francesca_ I might just go and do some stuff on the dashboard otherwise
03:37 Francesca_ any websites that need doing?
03:37 Francesca_ mouse started working after managing to install ubuntu
03:36 rangi cool
03:36 Francesca_ Virtual machine up and running now
03:36 rangi hi Francesca_
03:36 * Francesca_ waves
03:27 eythian http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/03/star-trek-fans-told-to-stop-spocking-5-bill <-- dcook
02:58 gmcharlt ... tends to be its downfall :)
02:58 gmcharlt GARBAGE COLLECT ALL THE THINGS
02:58 rangi but thats not it's fault
02:58 rangi the only issues we run into is lack of ram
02:58 dcook I certainly have no complaints
02:58 rangi its really solid
02:58 rangi we run gitolite for git.koha-community.org
02:56 dcook Ah, Gitlab runs on top of Gitolite?
02:54 dcook I use Gitolite at the moment for my own servers..
02:54 dcook Yeah, I'd been thinking about looking more at Gitlab and Gitorious...
02:44 rangi also kinda glad we kept our own git server for koha
02:40 rangi yeah i think ill set up my own gitorious .. or at least try
02:39 rangi and MIT expat license
02:38 rangi its kinda opencore which i dislike
02:38 wizzyrea aw
02:38 rangi they use it at waikato uni
02:37 eythian I've never actually used it
02:37 rangi gitlab isn't horrible at least
02:37 rangi maybe ill just set up my own instance
02:36 rangi ah well, at least its agpl3
02:36 eythian yeah, me too
02:36 rangi thats where i keep all my stuff
02:36 rangi annoying
02:36 eythian new master packages uploaded
02:35 eythian oh, there's a migration path.
02:35 eythian http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-rival-gitorious-will-shut-june-1/ <-- what the shit
02:20 eythian 3.16.08 packages published
02:16 wizzyrea lolllll
02:15 eythian https://recode.net/2015/02/18/reactions-sonys-840-smart-glasses-are-too-dorky-to-be-believed/ <-- ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
01:22 rangi myup
01:22 eythian on of these days we should use that to update the ssl config on our sites
01:22 rangi oh cool
01:21 eythian https://mozilla.github.io/server-side-tls/ssl-config-generator/
01:07 dcook Oh! C4::Auth... that's what I was going to look at
01:04 dcook http://fbiradio.com/on-air-now/
01:04 dcook Found a different link which worked
01:04 * dcook shrugs
01:04 eythian anything that's not a link to a .m3u, .ogg, .mp3, or similar is probably a failure by default.
01:02 dcook Boo FBi radio... why does your online music player fail me...
01:02 wizzyrea also dj'ing from ipads. I may never get used to that.
01:01 dcook Friend of a friend's radio show is going on right now...
01:01 dcook Oh nose!
01:00 * dcook puts on orbital too
01:00 dcook Hehe
01:00 dcook Much shorter but also great: http://grooveshark.com/s/Auto+Rock/4GeRtT?src=5
01:00 wizzyrea *can't talk, listening to orbital*
01:00 dcook It's over 16 minutes long though... so it's a bit of a thing
01:00 dcook This is one of my favourites: http://grooveshark.com/s/Mogwai+Fear+Satan/2qhIZZ?src=5
00:59 dcook Man, KEXP is the best
00:58 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlyjoBBCHU
00:58 dcook Man I haven't listened to orbital in ages... need to revise my playlist
00:57 wizzyrea < saw orbital once, not sure I've gone to a superior show since.
00:57 dcook Good lights too. I usually dislike the light shows at concerts, but it was pretty good
00:57 wizzyrea post-rock means next to 0 to me :P
00:57 dcook wizzyrea: Scottish post-rock for what's that worth
00:57 wizzyrea mua ha ha ha ha
00:56 * dcook can only think "Mogwai is playing in Wellington" now...
00:56 dcook What on earth was I just doing...
00:56 dcook eythian: You're a wise person
00:55 eythian I always use earplugs
00:55 dcook Of course, I probably should've used them for many many other shows when I was younger...
00:55 dcook Only time I've ever used ear plugs in my life though
00:55 dcook It was a good show
00:54 dcook I was led to believe in the past that he was a omniscient musically :p
00:54 wizzyrea he does know uncommonly much.
00:54 wizzyrea ... I'm sure he'd be flattered to know that you thought that.
00:54 dcook Letting me down here trea
00:54 dcook I thought trea knew everything about all music!
00:54 dcook O_o
00:54 wizzyrea LOL!
00:54 wizzyrea he doesn't know mogwai (neither do I)
00:54 dcook Or is Mogwai too mainstream? :p
00:53 dcook Is it the sort of thing trea would be interested in?
00:53 wizzyrea curses.
00:53 wizzyrea oh right.
00:53 dcook Otherwise... it would be oh so tempting
00:53 wizzyrea noooooo
00:53 dcook I'm not allowed to leave the country :p
00:53 dcook Haha
00:53 dcook Ah, there's another notification..
00:53 dcook What is it that I'm looking at?
00:53 wizzyrea GO GO
00:53 dcook wizzyrea: Hmm?
00:44 wizzyrea dcook - see facebook
00:22 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
00:22 eythian @wunder nzwn