Time Nick Message 00:22 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:22 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 00:44 wizzyrea dcook - see facebook 00:53 dcook wizzyrea: Hmm? 00:53 wizzyrea GO GO 00:53 dcook What is it that I'm looking at? 00:53 dcook Ah, there's another notification.. 00:53 dcook Haha 00:53 dcook I'm not allowed to leave the country :p 00:53 wizzyrea noooooo 00:53 dcook Otherwise... it would be oh so tempting 00:53 wizzyrea oh right. 00:53 wizzyrea curses. 00:53 dcook Is it the sort of thing trea would be interested in? 00:54 dcook Or is Mogwai too mainstream? :p 00:54 wizzyrea he doesn't know mogwai (neither do I) 00:54 wizzyrea LOL! 00:54 dcook O_o 00:54 dcook I thought trea knew everything about all music! 00:54 dcook Letting me down here trea 00:54 wizzyrea ... I'm sure he'd be flattered to know that you thought that. 00:54 wizzyrea he does know uncommonly much. 00:54 dcook I was led to believe in the past that he was a omniscient musically :p 00:55 dcook It was a good show 00:55 dcook Only time I've ever used ear plugs in my life though 00:55 dcook Of course, I probably should've used them for many many other shows when I was younger... 00:55 eythian I always use earplugs 00:56 dcook eythian: You're a wise person 00:56 dcook What on earth was I just doing... 00:56 * dcook can only think "Mogwai is playing in Wellington" now... 00:57 wizzyrea mua ha ha ha ha 00:57 dcook wizzyrea: Scottish post-rock for what's that worth 00:57 wizzyrea post-rock means next to 0 to me :P 00:57 dcook Good lights too. I usually dislike the light shows at concerts, but it was pretty good 00:57 wizzyrea < saw orbital once, not sure I've gone to a superior show since. 00:58 dcook Man I haven't listened to orbital in ages... need to revise my playlist 00:58 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlyjoBBCHU 00:59 dcook Man, KEXP is the best 01:00 dcook This is one of my favourites: http://grooveshark.com/s/Mogwai+Fear+Satan/2qhIZZ?src=5 01:00 dcook It's over 16 minutes long though... so it's a bit of a thing 01:00 wizzyrea *can't talk, listening to orbital* 01:00 dcook Much shorter but also great: http://grooveshark.com/s/Auto+Rock/4GeRtT?src=5 01:00 dcook Hehe 01:00 * dcook puts on orbital too 01:01 dcook Oh nose! 01:01 dcook Friend of a friend's radio show is going on right now... 01:02 wizzyrea also dj'ing from ipads. I may never get used to that. 01:02 dcook Boo FBi radio... why does your online music player fail me... 01:04 eythian anything that's not a link to a .m3u, .ogg, .mp3, or similar is probably a failure by default. 01:04 * dcook shrugs 01:04 dcook Found a different link which worked 01:04 dcook http://fbiradio.com/on-air-now/ 01:07 dcook Oh! C4::Auth... that's what I was going to look at 01:21 eythian https://mozilla.github.io/server-side-tls/ssl-config-generator/ 01:22 rangi oh cool 01:22 eythian on of these days we should use that to update the ssl config on our sites 01:22 rangi myup 02:15 eythian https://recode.net/2015/02/18/reactions-sonys-840-smart-glasses-are-too-dorky-to-be-believed/ <-- ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 02:16 wizzyrea lolllll 02:20 eythian 3.16.08 packages published 02:35 eythian http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-rival-gitorious-will-shut-june-1/ <-- what the shit 02:35 eythian oh, there's a migration path. 02:36 eythian new master packages uploaded 02:36 rangi annoying 02:36 rangi thats where i keep all my stuff 02:36 eythian yeah, me too 02:36 rangi ah well, at least its agpl3 02:37 rangi maybe ill just set up my own instance 02:37 rangi gitlab isn't horrible at least 02:37 eythian I've never actually used it 02:38 rangi they use it at waikato uni 02:38 wizzyrea aw 02:38 rangi its kinda opencore which i dislike 02:39 rangi and MIT expat license 02:40 rangi yeah i think ill set up my own gitorious .. or at least try 02:44 rangi also kinda glad we kept our own git server for koha 02:54 dcook Yeah, I'd been thinking about looking more at Gitlab and Gitorious... 02:54 dcook I use Gitolite at the moment for my own servers.. 02:56 dcook Ah, Gitlab runs on top of Gitolite? 02:58 rangi we run gitolite for git.koha-community.org 02:58 rangi its really solid 02:58 dcook I certainly have no complaints 02:58 rangi the only issues we run into is lack of ram 02:58 rangi but thats not it's fault 02:58 gmcharlt GARBAGE COLLECT ALL THE THINGS 02:58 gmcharlt ... tends to be its downfall :) 03:27 eythian http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/03/star-trek-fans-told-to-stop-spocking-5-bill <-- dcook 03:36 * Francesca_ waves 03:36 rangi hi Francesca_ 03:36 Francesca_ Virtual machine up and running now 03:36 rangi cool 03:37 Francesca_ mouse started working after managing to install ubuntu 03:37 Francesca_ any websites that need doing? 03:38 Francesca_ I might just go and do some stuff on the dashboard otherwise 03:38 rangi your first task would be to get hea running on the virtual machine 03:38 Francesca_ hmmm 03:38 rangi https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app 03:38 Francesca_ how would I do that? 03:42 Francesca_ Just gotta set up a ssh key first 03:42 Francesca_ and then I can clone it to my desktop in the vm 03:43 * wizzyrea is surprised you need an ssh key to clone 03:43 rangi well you'll want the key to push your changes eventually 03:43 wizzyrea I don't use gitorious though. 03:43 wizzyrea much. 03:44 rangi what you want to do is fork it in github first 03:44 rangi then clone your fork 03:44 wizzyrea oh github 03:44 * wizzyrea is doubly surprised 03:44 rangi https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app/network <-- like aleisha did 03:46 Francesca_ I have a fork in github 03:46 rangi cool 03:46 rangi so yep set up your ssh key 03:46 Francesca_ I already had one from last time 03:46 rangi and then clone it using that 03:46 Francesca_ just setting up the ssh key now 03:46 rangi sweet 03:46 * Francesca_ really needs to install irc in the vm 03:47 Francesca_ right key set up 03:47 Francesca_ just adding it now 03:48 eythian xchat is a pretty easy to work with IRC client. 03:49 Francesca_ yeah 03:49 eythian the vm will probably be most useful if you fullscreen it and pretend OSX doesn't exist. 03:49 Francesca_ I already have an irc client for mac 03:49 eythian http://time.com/12410/11-of-americans-think-html-is-an-std/ 03:49 Francesca_ so currently I am switching between mac and the vm so I can talk here 03:50 eythian yeah, I'd install xchat to stop hopping back and forth all the time :) 03:50 wizzyrea Francesca_: you should know that eythian gives very good advice. 03:50 wizzyrea :) 03:51 Francesca_ definantly 03:51 Francesca_ I'm just installing x-chat for the vm now 03:51 wizzyrea coolio 03:51 Francesca_ then I can fullscreen and pretend that mac doesn't exist 03:51 wizzyrea it's really gonna be easier on you that way :D 03:51 eythian also, that way you don't have to deal with OSX being annoying and maccy :) 03:52 wizzyrea hehehe 03:52 Francesca_ lol 03:53 Francesca_ I shall return when x-chat is installed 03:53 wizzyrea farewell, sweet francesca 04:00 * francesca waves 04:00 francesca I'm back 04:01 rangi and im leaving :) 04:03 francesca see you later 04:04 dcook I keep thinking I used to use xchat.. 04:04 dcook Then switched to Hexchat for some reason 04:05 francesca I had to use hexchat on windows cas x-chat isnt free for windows 04:05 dcook Ah, that's it 04:05 francesca but I'm using x-chat azure or something for mac 04:05 * dcook has a windows machine at work 04:05 * dcook waits for the boo-hiss 04:05 eythian boo-hiss 04:05 dcook :) 04:07 francesca I'm back on xchat now for my vm 04:08 dcook wizzyrea: I think you need to have a SSH key set up if you're using ssh to clone? 04:08 eythian http://i.imgur.com/dIUr2Hl.gifv 04:08 dcook I work with Github so infrequently that I can't recall my setup.. 04:08 dcook Maybe I do have it as HTTPS to clone and SSH to push.. 04:09 dcook bahah 04:09 francesca I thought you needed ssh to clone and push 04:09 dcook It's very possible 04:10 francesca but i usually work with gitorious so not totally sure 04:11 dcook Hmm, looks like I have it setup to use SSH for both 04:11 francesca thats what I've go I'm pretty sure 04:14 dcook Mmm left over quesadillas 04:15 eythian wahanui: sidewalk is a footpath for crabs 04:15 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:16 dcook O_o 04:16 * francesca is amused at what you can do with the bots 04:16 dcook Bots are pretty great 04:17 francesca definantly 04:17 mtompset No, you're great, dcook. :P 04:17 dcook Whoa, I almost confessed personal nerd stories about bots back in the '90s 04:17 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 04:17 dcook yo mtompset 04:17 eythian wahanui: boten anna 04:17 wahanui eythian: huh? 04:17 dcook Thanks for the compliment :p 04:17 * francesca waves at mtompset 04:17 mtompset Greetings, francesca dcook eythian. :) 04:17 dcook Actually, there was a trivia bot I used to interact with in the '90s which was rather great 04:17 dcook It's how I learned how to type quickly 04:17 * dcook got annoyed by everyone else typing the answers he knew before he could type them out :p 04:18 mtompset I know I could have written a better test plan, but adding "var and" to a bunch of things doesn't get my test plan writing juices flowing. 04:18 mtompset Anyone want an easy patch? :) 04:18 * francesca is waiting for brackets to install 04:18 mtompset bug 13787 04:18 eythian wahanui: boten anna is <reply>http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8 04:18 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13787 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Clean up noisy koha qa tool warnings 04:19 * dcook looks at his inbox and thinks that bugzilla is going to have to wait a while 04:19 eythian dcook: there's a video for you 04:19 mtompset I know a bot! 04:19 mtompset Great video. 04:21 francesca question: does anyone know how you copy the contents of an ssh key to clipboard using a terminal window command? 04:21 eythian you just cat the file 04:21 eythian ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub most likely 04:22 francesca cat the file?? not sure I understand 04:22 eythian then select it with the mouse 04:22 eythian cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub 04:22 eythian assuming that's the filename 04:22 francesca that did it 04:22 pianohacker back 04:23 dcook Whoa! pianohacker: isn't it like bazillion o'clock? 04:23 pianohacker still 4 or 5 hours until bedtime :) 04:23 dcook 9:23pm, eh? Perhaps not bazillion... 04:23 dcook You go to sleep much later than I do O_O 04:23 dcook On a week day at least... 04:24 francesca pianohacker: I like your username 04:24 pianohacker joys of being a college student... both sarcastically in that I have a lot to do and non-sarcastically in that tomorrow begins at noon 04:24 pianohacker thanks francesca :) 04:24 francesca how does one hack a piano I wonder 04:24 eythian axe 04:25 pianohacker I always like to think the piano is electric 04:25 dcook hehe 04:25 dcook eythian: Or chainsaw 04:25 francesca ahhh I acidentally fullsized my terminal window 04:25 dcook My wife almost persuaded me to get a piano for our place, as it was being threatened by people with chainsaws 04:26 dcook Alas, I refused. I'm sure the piano never even knew it had been hacked. 04:26 francesca lol 04:26 eythian I helped move a piano once. It was quite a mission 04:26 francesca how do I make the terminal window shrink? 04:27 francesca oh its ok 04:27 francesca I unshrunk it 04:27 dcook eythian: My sympathies go to past you 04:27 dcook It looked like it would've been quite the ordeal 04:28 dcook We also have really narrow stairways 04:28 * dcook didn't want to go insane...er. 04:28 dcook Also, neither of us play the piano 04:28 dcook Just saying 04:28 pianohacker you don't see professional refrigerator moving companies, or professional mattress moving companies, but people can make good money moving pianos just because it's so much work 04:28 pianohacker (and so easy to mess up) 04:28 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker 04:28 pianohacker yo mtompset 04:28 francesca pianos are hard to move 04:28 francesca my piano came from auckland 04:28 pianohacker especially long distances, with humidity and whatnot 04:29 pianohacker what kind of piano? 04:29 mtompset I think dcook and pianohacker use the same greetings script. :P 04:29 dcook mtompset: O_o 04:29 francesca the poor movers then had to cart it up a steep path and several steps 04:29 dcook Ah 04:29 dcook I see 04:29 pianohacker mtompset: O_o 04:29 dcook lol 04:29 * mtompset laughs. 04:29 francesca pianohacker: piano is a bernstein 04:29 mtompset So which one of you is Anna? :P 04:30 pianohacker upright or grand? 04:31 francesca upright 04:31 francesca we don't have anywhere enough room for a grand 04:32 pianohacker yeah... or possibly the floor strength :) 04:32 francesca hmmm quite possibly 04:32 pianohacker My piano teacher had a Steinway concert grand that was a joy to play on (still the best piano I've ever played) but required special floor supports to be installed 04:33 francesca wow 04:33 francesca my dad has a kawai upright 04:33 francesca I prefer the bernstein which lives at my mums 04:33 francesca but theres a really nice grand (or baby grand) yamaha (I think) that lives at the music school 04:34 francesca thats the best piano I've played so far 04:34 pianohacker I haven't played on either brand, but there are definitely some uprights that sound a lot tinnier and harpsichordy than others 04:34 pianohacker yeahhhhh I've heard yamaha makes great grands 04:34 * francesca is installing git 04:34 pianohacker for now, I'm sticking to my halfway decent casio weighted electric... 04:34 francesca Sweet 04:34 francesca hea-app is all set up now 04:35 francesca sounds cool 04:35 francesca I have a keyboard in my room 04:35 francesca the piano at my mums was lucky. it was my grandfathers, left to my aunt but she didnt have the space at her flat in auckland so it came to me 04:36 pianohacker what kind? (and hea-app sounds cool, I heard mutterings about it at the last hackfest or kohacon '13 but that was a while back) 04:36 pianohacker very nice 04:36 francesca the keyboard is a yamaha 04:36 francesca non-weighted keys 04:37 francesca hea-app looks very cool 04:37 francesca I just have to figure out how to get it to run 04:37 francesca maybe I'll ask rangi tomorrow or something 04:38 pianohacker francesca: out of curiosity, are you a new contributor/librarian? Can't say I've seen you around these parts before (though I'm not here much these days) 04:38 dcook So I've been getting tons of phone calls and emails today... so I made a crack about it being a full moon out 04:38 pianohacker I'm Jesse Weaver, by the way, a programmer with ByWater Solutions and recovering college student 04:38 dcook Ah wait this is March 04:39 pianohacker we not allowed to have full moons in march? 04:39 dcook I guess the full moon is tomorrow 04:39 dcook pianohacker: I thought it was yesterday, but I was looking at February :p 04:39 francesca pianohacker: yes and no. I've been doing stuff for koha as a volunter for almost a year now I guess 04:39 francesca but I've only just cloned into hea-app 04:39 francesca and I only switched to mainly irc work this year 04:40 pianohacker francesca: ah, okay. I have seen your name pop up a few times, come to think of it. Good to meet you :) 04:40 francesca you too 04:40 dcook francesca has definitely been around a while 04:40 francesca I did the academy back in 2014 04:40 pianohacker dcook: shows how much a ghost grad school has made me... 04:40 eythian pianohacker: francesca is one of our vict^Wacademy students who hung around :) 04:40 francesca or was it 2013.. 04:40 dcook Well, timezones and such too 04:40 pianohacker sweet! 04:41 dcook francesa: I'm thinking maybe it was 2013? 04:41 dcook Because wasn't there just a 2014 academy recently? 04:41 francesca makes more sense that way 04:41 francesca oh it was the 2013/2014 academy 04:41 francesca the recent one was the 2014/2015 academy 04:41 francesca I had a friend doing that 04:42 dcook Mmm 04:42 mtompset heintzman piano... That's what I played growing up. 04:42 dcook francesa: Did you do much with computers before the academy? 04:42 francesca I did computing at school 04:43 * dcook is so envious 04:43 francesca i was good at webpages and stuff 04:43 dcook I did a "computers" class in high school... and it was basically me just doing the administration's computer work 04:43 dcook yay free labour... 04:43 * dcook is from a rather remote country town though 04:43 dcook errr was* 04:43 mtompset The action was so light to the touch. These Yamaha and other pianos I played... I didn't like the touch. 04:43 francesca pianohacker: since you've introduced yourself its my turn 04:43 dcook Sydney isn't so remote.. 04:43 francesca I'm francesca (obviosuly) first year music student at Victoria uni in wellington 04:44 francesca also I like to build/fix/design websites for fun 04:44 mtompset performance or compositional, francesca? 04:44 francesca I wanted to do performance 04:44 francesca but i didnt get in 04:44 francesca so I do music studies 04:44 francesca and then I do all of the fun web stuff at koha 04:44 pianohacker mtompset: it's always a tradeoff; you're balancing between having such heavy action that your hands get tired and such light action that you can't precisely control loudness 04:45 pianohacker francesca: cool! That's why you're so familiar with pianos :) 04:45 francesca lol yeah 04:45 francesca its one of my instruments 04:45 pianohacker what else do you play? 04:45 francesca I also sing, and play the recorder 04:45 francesca i auditioned for classical voice at uni 04:46 pianohacker very cool 04:47 francesca where abouts in the world are you pianohacker? 04:47 eythian http://www.bash.org/?142934 <-- beware of talking to people who are far away 04:48 pianohacker hahahaha yup that's a classic 04:48 pianohacker on the same level as hunter2 imo 04:48 francesca hahaha thats funny 04:48 francesca pianohacker: i might also show up as Francesca_ 04:48 pianohacker francesca: I'm over in Colorado in America, thus dcook's comments about my bedtime :) 04:49 pianohacker you're in Australia, I'm guessing? 04:49 francesca Nope 04:49 francesca NZ 04:49 dcook hehe 04:49 mtompset pianohacker: You didn't scroll back. :P 04:49 eythian geez, pianohacker 04:49 wahanui pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. 04:49 eythian that's such an insult! 04:49 dcook Better than calling her Australian, I guess :p 04:49 francesca hold on I'm just gonna switch back to mac 04:49 francesca definantly 04:49 francesca never call me an australian 04:49 pianohacker dammit, shows what happens when I assume from vague knowledge of ISPs... 04:49 dcook francesca: I'm originally from Canada, so I sort of get it :p 04:49 pianohacker sorry :) 04:50 francesca my step-fathers from canada 04:50 eythian oh, you saw telstra :) 04:50 pianohacker yup 04:50 dcook pianohacker: I've made the same mistake 04:50 francesca pianohacker: all good :) 04:50 dcook Telstra is everywhere O_O 04:50 mtompset I'm Canadian and I'm in Canada (now) :) 04:50 eythian the brief history is saturn -> telstra -> telstraclear -> vodafone 04:50 eythian so now telstraclear doesn't really exist here any more 04:50 pianohacker mtompset: I'm in my home state, even, only two hours from my hometown... guess we're the boring ones 04:50 mtompset Well, I'm going to watch some netflix and go to sleep. 04:51 pianohacker eythian: ah but their tlds and ip blocks move on 04:51 eythian oh, I think there was paradise in there somewhere too. 04:51 * Francesca_ has switched back to mac 04:51 eythian yep 04:51 mtompset I'm in the house I was in during highschool! :P 04:51 pianohacker haha nice 04:51 mtompset I'm more boring than you, pianohacker. :P 04:52 francesca brb all, i'll talk to you all back on my mac os 04:52 pianohacker I guess I'll have to concede defeat 04:52 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. #koha francesca eythian pianohacker dcook even you silly bot, wahanui. :) 04:52 wahanui mtompset: excuse me? 04:52 mtompset You're excused, wahanui. :) 04:52 wahanui mtompset: excuse me? 04:53 dcook Hmm, yep, rather far from home these days 04:53 dcook And no idea when I'll be back O_O 04:53 Francesca_ right I'm back 04:53 Francesca_ hahaha I'm really pleased with my quit message 04:54 Francesca_ I'll have to set that on mac as well 04:54 pianohacker oh no, a doctor who fan in #koha 04:54 pianohacker whatever shall we do 04:54 Francesca_ you'll survive 04:54 Francesca_ when I was at the academy I explained the doctors regeneration cycle on here 04:55 pianohacker heh, nice 04:55 Francesca_ it was fun 04:58 * Francesca_ is surprised at how quickly everyone has gone silent 05:00 * Francesca_ waves goodbye 05:01 Francesca_ see ya later #koha, pianohacker it was fun talking to you 05:01 pianohacker bye Francesca_ :) 05:04 dcook Phone calls and emails 05:04 dcook They'll get a person every time 05:05 dcook I've said it before and I'll say it again, I need a minion 06:07 dcook Wow, apparently Firefox can't properly render some PDFs... 06:07 dcook Prints out gibberish :S 06:07 dcook Works fine if you use an Adobe plugin though 06:07 dcook Anywho, later folks 06:07 dcook pianohacker: Hope you don't have to stay up too late... even if the day does start at noon :p 07:45 reiveune hello 07:52 drojf good morning #koha 08:01 bag #accounts-rewrite 08:01 bag cait 08:01 bag khall: ^^^^ 08:01 bag ashimema ^^^^ 08:01 bag Joubu ^^^ 08:02 bag I don’t think we can have a hangout - internet is too slow 08:03 ashimema I'm here.. though not very awake.. Amelia kept me up all night (and most of yesterday for that matter), so i've not got very far with getting back up to speed 08:03 bag ok ashimema - rest up 08:04 cait @wunder Marseille 08:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 08:04 cait @wunder marseille 08:04 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 08:04 ashimema feels like there's a real lag here.. 08:04 cait i guess i am back 08:04 ashimema I'm happy to chat though.. perhaps squeeze in chat throughout the day if we're struggling with tinterweb 08:04 cait but not sure how stable this is 08:05 bag mainly what I was looking for - if anyone had any idea on how we could present the accounts rewrite - patch series etc - in a better manner 08:05 bag yes ashimema big lag here 08:07 cait ok, joining the chat room 08:07 cait should we kind of try to do it now... set a time after lunch? 08:07 ashimema Hows about we leave that #accounts-rewrite chat open today and talk as an when the connections get less laggy.. 08:07 cait bit worried if we do during the day it will get a bit hard to pay attention 08:08 cait dpavlin just promised working internets :) 08:08 ashimema at the moment for me, I'm getting 10 or so messages at a time.. or with relevant timestamps attached, but it aint half confusing trying to work out who was replying to who 08:08 ashimema lol 08:09 dpavlin 08:11 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 08:11 gaetan_B bonjour magnuse 08:11 gaetan_B ça va ? 08:12 bag amelia++ 08:13 magnuse cet bon! 08:20 matts hi ! 08:41 sophie_m2 hi #koha 08:50 matts hello ashimema ! I've seen that you wanted to QA Bug 12887... There's no patch for it yet, but you can QA Bug 13507, which is signed-off, if you want to :) 08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12887 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , User logged out on refresh after CAS authentication 08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , Add intranet support for CAS authentication 08:59 akafred Koha in Docker (with Docker intro): My slot at 10 am has been hijacked! :) Trying again at 2 pm. cc: fridolin, khall 09:05 Joubu dpavlin: did you open a new bug report for plack stuffs? 09:08 cait trying to give some notes about the elastic search presentation 09:08 cait please feel free to correct any mistakes 09:08 cait kind of introductory slides now 09:09 cait morning atheia 09:09 atheia morning :-) 09:09 cait koha gruppo italiano, 3 libraries in rome 09:10 cait lobbying for funding 09:10 cait and organize events 09:13 dpavlin Joubu: not yet. 09:14 dpavlin I got side-tracked by facets encoding problem today, but I will open it later today if nobody beats to to it.... 09:16 drojf asking again if someone in marseille would care to share their microphone for the presentations/discussions :P 09:16 ashimema drojf, I think their internets isn't really good enough for that.. 09:17 ashimema unless of course anyone has a dial in phone conference thingy we could use to listen in ;).. but that still relies on someone's phone line 09:17 drojf i think phone line would have been possible :D never looked into that 09:19 drojf hm yes i see a lot of ping timeouts again when i scroll back 09:19 ashimema ;) 09:30 cait it's been a bit of struggle to stay online this morning :( 10:05 cait ...and we are back 10:09 dpavlin Joubu: ok, plack bug 13791 is now live :-) attach your code there :-)) 10:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Plack out of the box 10:18 magnuse_ dpavlin++ Joubu++ 10:56 tcohen bonjour 10:56 wahanui privet, tcohen 11:08 Joubu dpavlin: patch sent on bug 13793 11:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13793 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The installer does not output the result of the update using Plack 11:08 Joubu dpavlin: does bug 13789 ready to be tested? 11:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, NEW , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links 11:18 dpavlin Joub 11:20 bag bug 11559 11:20 dpavlin dsadasdsadsa 11:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface 11:21 dpavlin Joubu: no, bug 13789 is just XSS security hole for now. We are using [% SET foo = foo _ 'bar' | url %] in our code, but it doesn't do anything :-\ 11:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, NEW , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links 12:23 tcohen dpavlin: 12:23 tcohen available? 12:34 dpavlin tcohen: yap. 12:35 tcohen naming schema for the files 12:35 tcohen you said you didn't like plack.${interface} 12:36 dpavlin I was just wondering if word "port" should be part of filename, but it's probably not needed 12:36 magnuse @seen ashimema 12:36 huginn magnuse: ashimema was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <ashimema> ;) 12:39 cait1 guess we don't have a lucky day today 12:54 gaetan_B tcohen: do we have a release date for 3.20 ? 12:55 gaetan_B around the end of may it seems ? 13:05 cait1 22nd usually or around that 13:40 francharb Hi all 13:42 talljoy morning! 13:49 cait1 morning talljoy :) 13:49 talljoy hiya cait! 13:51 magnuse bonjour talljoy 13:51 talljoy hola magnuse! 14:47 dpavlin Joubu: Bug 13789 14:47 wahanui hmmm... Bug 13789 is just XSS security hole for now. We are using [% SET foo = foo _ 'bar' 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links 14:47 dpavlin really? irc bot now has a opinion about my patch?! 14:47 * dpavlin ignore this -- it was part of commit message :-) 15:05 bag magnuse: HI 15:05 wahanui kia ora, bag 15:05 bag http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Current_state_of_plack_.28March_2015.29 15:05 magnuse bag: HI 15:22 nlegrand Hey #koha ! 15:26 clrh hey nengard :) 15:26 nengard hi 15:26 nengard oh - you meant hey nlegrand 15:26 nengard :) 15:34 magnuse hiya nlegrand 15:44 nlegrand :) 15:50 francharb hi nengard, are you available to talk about this : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12446 15:50 huginn 04Bug 12446: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, In Discussion , Enable an adult to have a guarantor 15:50 francharb ? 15:50 nengard i'm here 15:50 francharb :) 15:50 khall me too 15:51 francharb cool 15:51 francharb what really bug me 15:51 francharb it's not adding a feature to this feature 15:51 francharb a swith to display the guarantor information, why not 15:51 nengard But it is. Right now Koha can't add adults as guarantees and so with this new patch you add new functionality 15:52 nengard and it will upset many libraries 15:52 nengard new functions need on/off switches 15:52 khall which cannot be turned off 15:52 francharb but it feels like we are trying to patch something quickly that should be done on a bigger scale 15:52 francharb nengard, I just did 15:52 francharb I tested on master 15:52 khall that's just how it is, I've been in the exact same situation many times 15:52 jajm_ khall, tcohen, Joubu, ... here is a POC of a REST API implementation with Mojolicious and its Swagger plugin: https://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/mojolicious-rest-api 15:53 nengard I'm confused francharb 15:53 francharb khall, 15:53 khall jajm: that's fantastic! 15:53 nengard I love your feature - but it can't be on for everyone, it's something i know will upset many public libraries in the USA 15:53 nengard It shouldn't be too hard to add an on/off option for libraries who don't want this 15:53 francharb nengard, khall, we are going to add what you want 15:53 nengard cool! 15:53 francharb but can we just talk briefly on this 15:54 francharb because there is something for the community 15:54 francharb on the development guide line 15:54 nengard okay 15:54 khall francharb: you can see an example of this on bug 9303 15:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac 15:54 francharb I just want your point of view 15:54 khall we can't let something into master in a half-baked manner 15:55 francharb khall, as a developer, do you think its a necessary evil (if i may say so) 15:55 khall in this example I had a perfectly functional feature, but it needed much extra work to make it into master ( which it hasn't yet ) 15:55 francharb adding small feature that should be maybe done on a bigger scale 15:56 nengard Adding that feature will cause a huge uproar as it stands now :( so it's an evil that many libraries can't afford 15:57 nengard I see how it would be useful to academic libraries - but public libraries will find it confusing, unecessary, and in the way 15:57 nengard they will ask how to turn it off and right now I can't do that 15:58 francharb I understand, I have the same query, could you remove the alternate address, etc. 15:58 francharb I understand where it comes from 15:58 khall francharb: unfortunately the qa standard for koha isn't "push now, patch later" it's "patch now, push when it's ready" 15:58 francharb I agree we should do something 15:58 nengard i can remove the alternate address using the borrowerunwantedfields system preference 15:59 nengard i cannot remove the guarantor that way because it will remove it from children and adults 15:59 nengard and libraries want it on children 15:59 francharb nengard, does it remove the block title as well? 15:59 nengard yes 15:59 francharb I just learned something ahah 15:59 francharb ok 16:00 francharb khall, it's not about patching later 16:00 francharb it's about, what sounds to me part of another feature 16:01 francharb but like nengard said, we can already hide the other parts by hiding every field 16:01 francharb I thought you could't remove a block of information but just fields in this block... 16:02 bag wow jajm - that’s nice 16:02 khall francharb: the simple fact is that the patch negatively affects some users in a way that cannot be disabled. Until it can be enabled only for certain types of patrons it cannot pass qa. 16:02 nengard francharb, you can't link adults to adults now - not really. the 'feature' you speak of is a bug. if you link a child to an adult and then change the child to an adult the adults are still linked - but i see no other way to do it 16:02 dpavlin tcohen: WRT/ plack -- you will probably kill me (or something ;-) but I'm NOT running two plack processes for intranet and opac 16:03 nengard it's a patch that's adding a feature that exploits a bug :( 16:03 dpavlin tcohen: with some creative ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse it's possible to run just one plack for both opac and intranet 16:04 drojf hi again 16:04 francharb khall, like I said, we will add a swith in the patron categorie. What was worring me is that, I had the feeling we were about to do something that should have be done differently 16:04 francharb nengard, I'm on a patron card (adult) 16:05 francharb I click the "add children" button 16:05 francharb change the patron categorie to an adult category 16:05 wahanui francharb: that doesn't look right 16:05 francharb save 16:05 francharb It works on my installation 16:05 francharb then, you can see the guarantor and guarantee information on each card 16:06 francharb to me something was missing, we added it. to you, it was a bug from the beginning 16:06 nengard that's exploiting the bug .... 16:06 francharb we should not have been able to save it 16:06 khall no, the switch was actually my idea. That will be more than satisfy our requirements. 16:07 nengard must run 16:07 francharb khall, do you have to go as well? 16:07 francharb I just have a last question to implement this correctly 16:08 francharb On the patron category page, there will be a new button like "display the edit garantor information box" : yes | no 16:09 francharb by default, we will have "yes" for child and professional categories 16:09 francharb if yes, we display the edit guarantor box on the patron edit page 16:10 francharb khall, do you agree? 16:10 francharb is it what you had in mind? 16:13 khall francharb: that is exactly what we have in mind 16:13 francharb Perfect! 16:13 wahanui perfect is the enemy of good 16:14 francharb I'm going to comment and reassigne the issue to simith 17:29 reiveune bye 19:43 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 20:02 mtompset Did anyone else get the you're disabled email message? 20:03 mtompset "Your membership in the mailing list Koha has been disabled due to excessive bounces..." 20:05 mtompset Serves me right for upgrading my VirtualBox while on IRC. :) 20:05 drojf hi mtompset. i didn't 20:05 drojf (get such an email) 20:06 mtompset Did you reply to any list emails? 20:06 drojf yes 20:06 drojf but on koha-devel, not on the main list 20:07 rangi you'd only get that if it had 10 bounces from you 20:08 drojf i'd blame hotmail 20:10 rangi heh more bug statuses when people can't even use the ones we have consistently 20:10 rangi that'll work well :) 20:11 drojf that's what i was thinking ;) 20:15 jmsasse talljoy: you got your ears on? 20:15 wnickc anyone know why searching for "Indridason" doesn't work to pull up "Indraðason"? I know they are different characters, but "Bronte" seems to pull up "Brontë" 20:15 * talljoy listens 20:15 talljoy whats up jmsasse 20:16 jmsasse Dani and I were to have a conf call at 2 today. 20:16 talljoy ok 20:16 jmsasse talljoy: haven't heard from her yet. 20:16 talljoy i just pinged her. i had her working on a project. my apologies. she is calling now 20:17 jmsasse thanks : ) 20:17 talljoy sorry about that. 20:17 jmsasse no problemo 20:19 rangi wnickc: it's to do with the charmaps in the icu stuff 20:21 drojf wnickc: do you have that in your icu file? 20:21 drojf oh i should scroll down all the way. nevermind :D 20:25 wnickc thanks rangi and drojf 20:59 * cait1 waves 21:01 wnickc hi cait 21:30 drojf good night #koha 21:34 eythian hi 21:39 cait1 hi 21:52 jmsasse Hi cait 21:53 cait1 hi jmsasse 21:53 cait1 :) 21:54 jmsasse cait: Sind Sie im Frankreich? 21:54 cait1 ja :) 21:55 cjh_ :D 21:55 jmsasse Viel Spass? 21:57 eythian http://elasticsearch.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl?op=do_search&type=opac&operator=contains&value=robert&marclist=any&and_or=and&orderby=HeadingAsc <-- the beginnings of authority support in elasticsearch 21:57 eythian (paging doesn't work yet, that's expected, along with many other things :) 21:58 wizzyrea heh, "used in 0 records " clicked > comes back with a record 21:58 eythian yep 21:58 wizzyrea I assumed that fit in under "many other things" 21:58 eythian that's because to count the number of biblios in use, koha actually goes and runs a search for each one. 21:58 wizzyrea ;) 21:58 eythian I haven't built that yet :) 22:07 tcohen hi barton 22:08 barton evening tcohen! 22:08 * dcook waves 22:08 barton eythian: w00t! 22:09 barton hi dcook! 22:09 rangi scoreboard updated 22:09 dcook yo barton :) 22:11 cait woohoo :) 22:12 eythian wahanui: scoreboard 22:12 wahanui rumour has it scoreboard is at http://scoreboard.koha-community.org 22:13 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:13 wahanui the saddest thing is, like, http://cooleycooley.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/the-loneliest-unicorn.html 22:13 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:13 wahanui the saddest thing is probably http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itanium_Sales_Forecasts_edit.png 22:13 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:13 wahanui hmmm... the saddest thing is http://careydraws.tumblr.com/post/74224444875/written-in-the-bones-new-comic-written-by 22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:14 wahanui the saddest thing is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itanium_Sales_Forecasts_edit.png 22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:14 wahanui the saddest thing is http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2014/02070836-isee-3.html 22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:14 wahanui the saddest thing is http://careydraws.tumblr.com/post/74224444875/written-in-the-bones-new-comic-written-by 22:14 eythian wahanui: what is the saddest thing 22:14 wahanui i guess the saddest thing is http://i39.tinypic.com/14jz15f.jpg 22:14 eythian damnit, pretend it was the one about the whale 22:14 eythian https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lonelywhale/help-us-find-lonely-whale 22:25 dcook O_O 22:26 dcook Oh snap 22:26 dcook Poor unicorn.. 22:58 eythian https://tugboatannie.bandcamp.com/album/the-space-around-you <-- in case anyone likes the sort of easy-going alt/indie rock sorta stuff, this is pretty good. 23:14 tcohen dpavlin: i've solved the configuration for plack 23:15 mtompset tcohen: Why not use the kohadev box? 23:15 mtompset plack set up by default. 23:16 tcohen yes but that's not what I'm trying to do 23:16 tcohen mtompset: thanks anyway 23:16 mtompset plack? 23:16 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. 23:17 tcohen we are working on plack out-of-the-box plack support on packages installs 23:17 tcohen that's it 23:18 dcook tcohen++ 23:18 dcook That would be awesome :) 23:18 dcook eythian: Any recommendations or is it all good? 23:21 tcohen we are preparing the ground for it actually 23:21 tcohen adminsitration scripts, default configurations, koha-create tweaks, koha-plack tool, etc 23:21 dcook That's great :) 23:22 dcook I keep thinking about trying to get a few of our sites set up on Plackc 23:22 dcook Plack* 23:22 dcook Just no time :S 23:22 * dcook blames the upcoming full moon 23:23 tcohen dcook: maybe just upgrade them to 3.20 in may? =D 23:24 dcook We don't use packages though :( 23:24 tcohen ah, that's a pity 23:24 dcook Such a pity 23:24 dcook Slowly but surely I'm trying to push that way though 23:27 dcook Hehe. I had forgotten about this one -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtWirGxV7Q8 23:28 dcook eythian: in case you want to hear the songs Mogwai played on Monday night ---> http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Mogwai+Sydney+March+2015/104579711 23:28 tcohen mogwai++ 23:28 dcook no doubt 23:29 * dcook hasn't made his daily mogwai post yet... :p 23:29 dcook eythian: Still time for you to grab a ticket to see them :p 23:31 tcohen night everyone