Time  Nick         Message
23:58 dcook        Or they just buy really fancy shoes as they always look great
23:58 dcook        Actually, him and everyone I know with 14+ feet might just get custom shoes done..
23:57 dcook        I have a friend with 14 wide, and I'm not sure how he does it
23:57 dcook        Dang, that does sound like it would be hard
23:57 pianohacker  dcook: 13 wide (in US)
23:57 dcook        Mine are about 11 or 12, and... I was just about to measure in centimeters, but I'm wearing boots today and there is no way I'm unlacing my boots just to measure my feet..
23:56 dcook        pianohacker: what size are your feet?
23:49 pianohacker  hrm, okay
23:41 dcook        I have pretty standard feet though I think?
23:41 dcook        I'd just go on Amazon, but it was usually through one of the shops on there which are just based in America
23:27 pianohacker  dcook: What was the place you got your shoes from? I'm ... blessed with large, strange-shaped feet and that sounds excellent
22:49 dcook        I like my hikers to last a bit longer than 6 months
22:49 dcook        To be fair, they did make it through an 18km hike on Crete, but...
22:48 dcook        I need to figure out one of those sometime soon. I've beaten my hikers all to hell.
22:45 eythian      I think someone was telling me about a good online shoe place here. I should figure out what it was.
22:41 dcook        Well, it's affordable, but not cost effective.
22:41 dcook        Shoes in Australia are rather expensive and shipping from overseas isn't always an affordable option :/
22:40 dcook        I measured my feet, they posted their measurements, it was great
22:40 dcook        yeah when I was in North America, I bought all my shoes online
22:40 dcook        Which Magic seems like it could do
22:40 eythian      oh ah
22:40 dcook        Yeah, but she needed same night delivery
22:39 eythian      a reasonable amount of people just buy them online these days, too
22:39 eythian      there are services around that ship you clothes and things
22:39 eythian      heh
22:38 dcook        She's in Canada though. The only magical delivery is from Santa there.
22:38 dcook        I wonder if I actually saw a reference when I was looking things up for her that day..
22:37 dcook        I have a friend who needed to get some clothing shopping done but didn't have the time to do it. This would've been perfect for her.
22:35 dcook        "Because I was a first-timer, they even threw in an extra joint, a brownie bite, and a sample vial of hash oil. America! I collected the weed and retreated back inside."
22:35 eythian      yes, it is :)
22:35 dcook        eythian: I'm not done reading yet, but that's magic
22:04 cait1        hi eythian
22:03 eythian      hi cait1
22:02 * cait1      waves
21:52 eythian      http://www.wired.com/2015/03/stump-magic/ <-- this is excellent
21:47 wahanui      hey, eythian
21:47 eythian      hi
21:44 wizzyrea     hiya
21:44 pianohacker  hi wizzyrea
21:44 pianohacker  :( there's been a winter storm warning in colorado for the past month almost...
21:41 wizzyrea     summer came late this year.
21:41 huginn       wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on March 04, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
21:41 wizzyrea     @wunder nzwn
20:07 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 7.0°C (9:00 PM CET on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
20:07 mveron       @wunder allschwil
20:07 * mveron     waves...
20:06 * wnickc     waves
20:03 wizzyrea     hi
18:53 drojf        hello again
18:30 charles      is there a bug filed in bugzilla about the humongous amount of time wasted in that library?
18:29 charles      I read the _FixPriority method after profiling the script ./misc/cronjobs/holds/cancel_expired_holds.pl, and I couldn't believe the time spent updating rows in the database
18:26 charles      anybody familiar with C4::Reserve?
18:26 charles      hi everybody
16:48 reiveune     bye
16:30 huginn       akafred: The operation succeeded.
16:30 akafred      @later tell larryb Using this you can actually measure the user experienced time from a user clicks a link until the next page is ready for interaction. That is pretty cool ...
16:29 vfernandes   is this normal?
16:29 vfernandes   they're taking about 5/6s to search in 140k records
16:29 vfernandes   one question: how i can improve my catalog searches speed?
16:28 vfernandes   hi :)
16:28 huginn       akafred: The operation succeeded.
16:28 akafred      @later tell larryb There is a javascript library (boomerang.js) that makes sending the data back to the server easier ( http://yahoo.github.io/boomerang/doc/ ). In addition you need a script/service on the server that accepts the data.
16:26 huginn       akafred: The operation succeeded.
16:26 akafred      @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Navigation_timing
16:25 huginn       akafred: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:25 akafred      huginn: @later tell larryb I mentioned measuring actual performance in the browser on every request, here is the browser spec that enables it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Navigation_timing
16:19 codavid      re
16:19 * codavid    fr
16:16 dpavlin      we will have overview of taday's work in 15 minutes
16:15 akafred      Not sure if it is mature or anything, but at least it exists.
16:14 JesseM       Thank you akafred
16:12 akafred      https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::BDD::Cucumber::Manual::Steps
16:12 akafred      Joubu and JesseM : Cucumber in Perl? https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Test-BDD-Cucumber/README.pod
15:56 cait         akafred: i think he ran away :)
15:51 akafred      ashimema: did you use raisin?
15:41 indradg      hello #koha
15:39 ashimema     tis cool
15:39 ashimema     I've played with swagger..
15:27 khall        akafred: I've looked into swagger a bit. I think any tool that keeps our api standardized is something we should looking into using.
15:25 akafred      khall: Did you look at something like https://metacpan.org/pod/Raisin / https://github.com/khrt/Raisin ? Raisin supports http://swagger.io/ Any thoughts?
14:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too
14:56 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error
14:56 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup
14:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #82: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/82/
14:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12782 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/XISBN.t should work on DOM too
14:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: (followup) skip tests that fail because of provider's error
14:50 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12782: t/db_dependent/XISBN.t fails in DOM setup
14:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_D7 build #81: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_D7/81/
14:50 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:48 * drojf      feels waved at and waves back
14:48 * magnuse    waves randomly
14:42 * drojf      yawns
14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #82 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
13:49 cait         sooooo cute
13:49 cait         saw it now
13:48 ashimema     sna.gy doesn't work for me :(
13:47 ashimema     http://pbrd.co/1DORUxu
13:46 cait         I should make you pay for licensing it... but on theother hand we are working with free software here...
13:41 druthb       yep
13:40 cait         stealing my words again? :)
13:40 druthb       hmpfs back at cait.
13:40 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
13:40 cait         @later tell oleonard - could you please take a look at bug 13680 ?
13:39 cait         hmpf!
13:39 druthb       You're outvoted, cait
13:38 ashimema     indeed.
13:38 cait         hmpf.
13:38 druthb       our amazing cait should not hide!
13:38 druthb       :P
13:37 cait         or eeek heh
13:37 cait         eeew
13:36 * druthb     grabs cait and drags her out where people can see and admire her.
13:36 druthb       no hiding!
13:36 cait         druthb!
13:36 cait         actually.. she is hiding in the office *hides*
13:36 clrh         cait is having a walk outside looking at "notre dame de la garde" I think ;)
13:32 druthb       cait!
13:32 wahanui      cait is from germany. Ask me about germany.
13:32 druthb       cait?
13:23 cait         where is oleonard? :)
13:23 cait         atheia!
13:23 cait         ashimema? :)
12:50 akafred      khall, Joubu, fridolin, larryb and Alex – I am moving the "Koha in Docker"-session to tomorrow at 10 am - unless anyone objects :-)
12:27 jenkins_koha Mason James: Adding release notes
12:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #81: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/81/
11:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #81 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
11:41 ashimema     5010 that is
11:40 ashimema     it is indeed magnuse
11:40 ashimema     we've found a bug ;)
11:40 ashimema     I've got Joubu in pm now
11:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol
11:40 magnuse      wow, bug 5010 is scary
11:40 ashimema     indeed..
11:40 magnuse      ashimema: nope, but cheese lunch is approaching fast...
11:33 ashimema     i take it there's a talk on
11:32 ashimema     can anyone checkout master in a sandbox?
11:32 ashimema     is it just me, or is there a bug in the sandboxes now..
11:22 tcohen       dpavlin: not on wheeze I guess
11:21 dpavlin      tcohen: port for plack? Shouldn't we use file sockets instead?
11:17 Joubu        matts: All tests successful.
11:17 matts        Joubu, prove t/db_dependent/Serials_2.t
11:12 tcohen       matts: heh
11:11 matts        the vieux port ?
11:11 tcohen       dpavlin: the port! how do we know the port!
11:02 akafred      But on the other hand, lots of meetings today, perhaps we should move it to tomorrow...
11:02 akafred      4 pm is ok with me, actually i thought that was what i had put in there.
11:01 Joubu        do you agree to move it to 4pm or tomorrow?
11:00 akafred      Hm... then something must have moved.
11:00 Joubu        akafred: did you see the docker presentation will planned at the same time of the rest api?
10:55 cait         :)
10:54 bag          sweet :)
10:53 ashimema     colin is rebasing and fixing those issues now as it happens
10:52 bag          Basically I have tested all that and it works - just touch those things and it should be ready for QA and a bit easier in the QA stage :D
10:52 huginn       04Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality
10:52 bag          ashimema: if you could get anyone to work on this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7736
10:46 tcohen       *we are
10:46 tcohen       we using the "bug number"
10:46 tcohen       dpavlin: we are not using it
10:41 ashimema     it's been a while since I've spent any real time on them ;)
10:41 ashimema     I'm just checking our sandboxs are all up and running now..
10:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons.
10:41 fridolin     Bug 8107
10:41 ashimema     cheers both..
10:41 fridolin     but the patch is not in master yet
10:40 fridolin     ashimema: PDF:fromHTML
10:40 Joubu        ashimema: no, they are not
10:39 ashimema     ours are probabliy missing it too ;)
10:39 ashimema     which perl module fridolin...
10:37 fridolin     did you ask for integratio,n in commmunity repo ?
10:37 fridolin     Joubu: in sandfbox a perl module is missing
10:25 magnuse      yay me - finally signed off my first patch for the hackfest
10:19 * ashimema   goes to read it now
10:19 ashimema     dpavlin++
10:18 tcohen       dpavlin++
10:16 magnuse      dpavlin++
10:16 cait         :P
10:16 magnuse      cait: just don't do patches for the new bugs, so get the nso number down ;-)
10:16 dpavlin      and remember, "man in plack" rimes with "man in black" -- conincidence? I don't think so!
10:16 dpavlin      notes from plack discussion is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack
10:14 nengard      woo hoo
10:13 cait         but hey... hte patch works! :)
10:13 cait         filed 2 new bugs...
10:13 cait         tested oe small patch
10:10 ashimema     lol
10:09 magnuse      pizza lunch is on friday - i will miss that. so i'm up for pizza dinner any day!
10:08 ashimema     :(.. I want pizza
10:08 magnuse      pizza!
10:08 tcohen       shall we get a pizza together anytime soon?
10:08 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
10:08 tcohen       morning magnuse
10:08 tcohen       and jonathan will try to fix the issues with updatedatabase.pl on plack
10:08 magnuse      dpavlin was taking notes, i think
10:07 tcohen       dpavlin will work on syspref cache invalidation
10:07 ashimema     so we are all singing off the same hymsheet
10:07 ashimema     ;)
10:07 ashimema     lets have that agreement published somewhere :)
10:07 ashimema     excellent.. :)
10:07 tcohen       i'll be working on the debian scripts needed for this
10:07 tcohen       we just agreed on things to do to have plack support out of the box
10:07 ashimema     hi tcohen
10:06 tcohen       hi ashimema
10:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Patch doesn't apply , Syspref caching issues
10:05 Joubu        dpavlin: yes, it's bug 11998
10:04 akafred      The discussion just ended ... I think there well be an action plan written down somewhere ...
10:04 ashimema     wondered if there internet would be up to it..
10:03 ashimema     I was thinking similar drojf
10:02 drojf        would someone in marseille be willing to share their microphone during dev talks/discussions so we can listen in?
10:00 akafred      clrh: If you don't want to go down the virtual machine route the steps to install the necessary tools on Ubuntu are here (written in something called "salt states", but it shouldn't be impossible to interpret them): https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/vm-test-only/test/salt/cucumber.sls
09:58 clrh         thanks akafred !
09:57 akafred      clrh: If you just want to play around with it a little you could try the virtual machine I used yesterday. I isolated it in a branch of our repo: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/vm-test-only/README.md
09:55 akafred      Yeah, but you need a couple more things to do web-browser stuff
09:55 clrh         I read a little bit of documentation that's all, I'll try maybe more in the week
09:55 clrh         gem install cucumber
09:55 clrh         akafred: yep I tried yesterday evening looking at tv ;)
09:54 akafred      clrh: Did you get cucumber installed? I have a procedure of sorts you can follow ...
09:53 ashimema     if not.. that's the solution for https and serving of static content in a sensible way ;)
09:53 ashimema     magnuse.. are they talking plack behind apache/nginx...
09:50 clrh         I ll have a look
09:50 cait         i think pootle might use it to make suggestions - maybe there is something in the pootle manual?
09:49 clrh         it is to be sure everyone use the same word to translate "notice" or "item" or whatever special library word
09:49 cait         there is one for german... but i am not sure where this came from :)
09:49 clrh         ok cait
09:48 clrh         I was interested to know the practices of team work
09:48 cait         clrh: maybe drop an email on the koha-translate list?
09:48 clrh         it is terminology but we have a 500 server error when we generate it
09:48 cait         we = german translators as far as I know
09:48 cait         clrh: we don't... it seems poole has something called glossary - but i am not sure how that works
09:48 clrh         I am translating in pootle the po files
09:48 nengard      clrh I don't understand the question.  What are you translating?
09:47 clrh         what are the practices indeed
09:47 magnuse      ashimema: https seems to be an issue in the plack discussion now
09:47 clrh         and where is this glossary ?
09:47 clrh         nengard: hello, do you know how/if people use a glossary to translate from english ?
09:42 akafred      yep, they are still discussing ... hopefully someone else can fill #koha in on the action plan
09:41 ashimema     cheers
09:41 wahanui      i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:41 ashimema     interesting..
09:41 ashimema     those ar ethe big questions I'm interested in.. was hoping they'd come out with it in the end of the chat with a definative path to follow ;)
09:41 akafred      they are currently looking for volunteers to look at some of the core issues ...
09:40 ashimema     yeah, I've been tracking it closely.. there are at least three different thoughts on moving to plack (in terms of actualyl settitng it up,, using packages, multi-tenancy)..
09:40 ashimema     cheers akafred..
09:38 cait         akafred++
09:38 wahanui      okay, akafred.
09:38 akafred      ashimema: I think there are also unsolved questions regarding migration to plack for existing installations ... or at least about the recommended path ...
09:37 akafred      ashimema: There are also a couple of questions regarding how to run it in multi-instance installations (the scripts here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack doesen't support that). The solution mentioned is also apache-centric at the moment. [At this point I kinda faded from the disussion, but someone else might fill you in ...]
09:37 akafred      enable reuse of processes.
09:37 akafred      ashimema: dpavlin says they have run Intra on Plack for about a year. They run with max-workers=1 which means plack doesn't reuse processes, but you get the benefit of preforked processes. The reason why processes are not reused is that there are issues with caching of system preferences (and frameworks). Cache invalidation should be possible, and would
09:32 cait         but alex is sitting in on it
09:32 cait         sorry, they lost me
09:23 ashimema     it's one i would have lvoed to attend if I were there
09:23 ashimema     can someone make notes about the plack discussion..
09:17 nengard      a few wrong turns, but i made it ;)
09:06 akafred      Plack discussion now ... #hfk15
09:04 akafred      Joubu: If you want to play around with the setup I used yesterday, I've made a branch with only the virtual machine we use for testing: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/tree/vm-test-only The README has installation instructions for Ubuntu, Mac and ... Windo$.
08:49 akafred      Joubu: I haven't tried it, but it looks a little higher level than Selenium::Remote::Driver.
08:48 clrh         hello people
08:48 Joubu        akafred: not at all, but looks great :)
08:46 akafred      Joubu: Have you looked at https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::Lithium ?
08:43 mveron       Hi #koha
08:43 nengard      headed your way now
08:42 tcohen       akafred++
08:42 tcohen       akafred
08:41 * akafred    likes the wired network way better than the wireless from yesterday ... (I have also disabled my wireless just in case it helps those still on wireless) #hfk15
08:38 fridolin     akafred: perfect because my install is a 64bitss
08:30 mtj          hi all
08:29 mtj          rangi:  i aim to upload the 3.16 release stuff tonite
08:27 akafred      fridolin: Yes, I am.
08:27 akafred      Bonjour tous le monde! (literally :))
08:23 cait         #koha even :)
08:23 cait         morning koha
08:22 tcohen       morning #koha
08:20 sophie_m     hi #koha
08:20 gaetan_B     hello
08:17 fridolin     are you in a 64 bits en ?
08:16 fridolin     akafred: yep, small question
08:15 fridolin     bonjour tout le monde
08:15 bag          bonjour fridolin
08:15 nengard      ha
08:15 wahanui      rumour has it magnuse is a Norwegian giant
08:15 rangi        hey magnuse
08:14 magnuse      kia ora rangi
08:09 wahanui      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ
08:09 rangi        yeah buddy
08:07 wahanui      hola, nengard
08:07 nengard      hi
08:07 matts        hi #koha !
08:05 wahanui      ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>...
08:05 huginn       wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
08:05 huginn       magnuse: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
08:05 wahanui      @quote get 123
08:05 magnuse      @quote 123
08:01 bag          yeah take it slow nengard
08:00 nengard      I can particpate virtually for now :)
08:00 nengard      and then will head out
08:00 nengard      enough to get up and get some cereal - hoping some food in tummy will stop the burning :)
08:00 bag          heya nengard - feel better
08:00 * nengard    does back
08:00 * bag        holds out fist ;)
07:59 magnuse      bag: HI
07:56 bag          morning
07:55 magnuse      reiveune: :-)
07:54 reiveune     magnuse: hi, it's the first time I can say you "hello" on irc and see you irl
07:53 magnuse      bonjour reiveune
07:52 wahanui      kia ora, reiveune
07:52 reiveune     hello
07:17 drojf        working, thanks rangi
07:17 rangi        no 3.16 or 3.14 for feb eh?
07:17 rangi        hmmmm
07:16 rangi        try that now drojf
07:14 rangi        yeah it has max number of connections open, try again in a few minutes
07:13 rangi        its probably being hammered
07:13 rangi        patches dont touch the git server
06:54 drojf        i can apply patches though
06:54 drojf        when i do git fetch, i get fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
06:01 drojf        hey dcook
06:00 dcook        yo drojf
06:00 drojf        morning
05:57 dcook        Surely that second declaration is a mistake..
05:55 dcook        Not necessarily much of a bug, but certainly a bug..
05:55 dcook        we declare $sessionID twice in checkauth() :/
05:53 dcook        Especially when they're in master..
05:51 dcook        Auth.pm bugs are the blurst
05:51 dcook        Bleargh...
05:45 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
04:06 indradg      governmental funding compliance
04:06 indradg      college libraries in India are having problems migrating to Koha without this "feature" that I'm tinkering with
04:05 indradg      i was just writing out the use-case :-)
04:04 * dcook      was thinking about suggesting that as well
04:02 eythian      indradg: if you had to patch the source, then it's probably worth making a bug for it as it really shouldn't be necessary.
04:02 dcook        You can tell how often we add things to the items table, I guess :p
04:01 dcook        heh
04:00 indradg      since the update was looping through the keys, that was working :P
04:00 dcook        That should probably use DBIC these days
04:00 indradg      dcook: yep!
03:59 dcook        Ah, _koha_new_item
03:58 dcook        indradg: Which part of C4::Items?
03:58 dcook        :S
03:54 indradg      had to map the field into C4/Items.pm for the insert
03:53 indradg      wizzyrea, eythian: figured out what the problem was! :)
03:16 dcook        Yay! They fixed it!
03:11 * dcook      needs to find some time to fix some of his own mistakes on Bugzilla one of these days
03:11 dcook        Not that I don't make my own mistakes.
03:11 dcook        Highlighting lots of mistakes lately...
03:11 dcook        Well, I haven't attributed it to anything completely yet. I'm just puzzled.
03:10 wizzyrea     or at least think very hard before attributing such things to malice.
03:10 dcook        Oh well. I'll just be glad when the project is done.
03:10 dcook        Very much that.
03:10 dcook        Ahh, yes.
03:09 wizzyrea     "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence"
03:09 dcook        Well, I guess you don't know all the back history :p
03:09 wizzyrea     a mistake is a much more likely scenario
03:03 dcook        Or they didn't push to prod
03:03 dcook        I'm guessing that must be it :S
03:01 eythian      dcook: people are strange sometimes
03:01 indradg      wizzyrea: it is supposed to be spring... but we are sweating it out duing the day without air conditioning :)
03:01 dcook        I feel like there's a relevant Simpsons quote... I just don't know it
03:00 dcook        I would guess to save face in front of Y, except I'm going to now tell said person and Y that X hasn't been fixed...
03:00 dcook        Why would a person say X is fixed when X hasn't been fixed?
03:00 dcook        Also, riddle me this
03:00 dcook        That sounds like something which would be a thing here
03:00 eythian      which is (here at least) a combination of government rules and local council rules.
02:59 dcook        Fair enough
02:59 eythian      depends on the license
02:59 * dcook      always associated "curfew" with teenagers
02:59 dcook        Or they stop serving at that point?
02:59 dcook        Does that mean that people who are already in can stay in, and that new people can't?
02:59 eythian      usually depends on licensing
02:58 dcook        The bar/thing has a curfew of 11pm?
02:58 dcook        Don't really understand this "curfew" stuff though
02:58 dcook        Half tempted to fly to the Brisbane show tomorrow which may or may not go later :o
02:58 dcook        So that's why the show stopped before that...
02:58 eythian      they can't play after midnight
02:57 dcook        Also, mogwai mogwai mogwai :p
02:57 dcook        Hmm, it did feel a bit warm on the way in from the orthodontist..
02:56 huginn       dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 27.0°C (1:30 PM AEDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
02:56 dcook        @wunder syd
02:55 wizzyrea     is that warm or cool for kolkata? well I suppose it's early morning so...
02:51 huginn       indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 22.0°C (7:50 AM IST on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
02:51 indradg      @wunder kolkata
02:50 wizzyrea     get your togs, it's a swimmin' day
02:50 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on March 03, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
02:50 eythian      @wunder nzwn
02:49 indradg      wizzyrea: koha to marc mapping is there... bib framework test also gives out no error
02:46 eythian      that's the one
02:46 wizzyrea     the koha -> marc mapping tool in administration
02:46 eythian      (I don't really know what hte issue is, I'm just running through what I would have thought of to double check.)
02:45 eythian      but did you add the mapping in the thing that maps columns to marc fields? Not just in the framework?
02:45 indradg      eythian ^^
02:45 indradg      edit another pre-existing 952 field like say $e and linking that field to the authval picklist does not have this problem
02:44 indradg      first pass, data is submitted but not saved in the db, second pass (edit) data gets saved
02:43 indradg      sub field to items.fundsource
02:43 eythian      *as well as
02:43 eythian      and you added the extra mapping as well is just the framework?
02:43 indradg      yes... added a new column in items
02:42 eythian      did you make a special column for it or something?
02:42 indradg      and since it is 952 the data will go into items
02:41 eythian      odd
02:41 eythian      oh
02:41 indradg      however should I try to edit the item records (after saving it once), Ithe data gets saves
02:41 eythian      marc_subfields_xml or something
02:41 eythian      I would expect it to go in the other marc blob place
02:40 indradg      but it is not being saved  in the database
02:40 indradg      the data is getting submitted (i check with TamperData)
02:40 indradg      I can select a value and submit
02:40 indradg      the new field is is authval based dropdown
02:39 indradg      the field show up in the marc editor on additem.pl
02:39 indradg      i'm facing a curious problem after addinga new field in 952 :)
02:38 wizzyrea     :) maybe so
02:30 wahanui      hi, indradg
02:30 indradg      hi
02:24 mtompset     But we know the Daleks would destroy the Cylons. :P
02:05 wahanui      you are a Cylon, and they all have plans.
02:05 wizzyrea     wizzyrea?
02:05 wahanui      I love the 11th doctor!
02:05 wizzyrea     francesca?
01:50 Francesca    Yay!
01:50 Francesca    it works now!
01:50 jcamins      And the host key is the left command key.
01:49 jcamins      But not in the installer.
01:49 jcamins      I mean, once it was installed, yes.
01:49 jcamins      Francesca: when I've installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox, I don't recall there being any mouse.
01:41 eythian      and I haven't seen GPM installed on a computer for many years now.
01:40 eythian      you don't get a GUI if you're installing server.
01:39 mtompset     you may not even get it if you are installing server.
01:38 eythian      the mouse would be less important for server
01:38 mtompset     Are you installing desktop or server?
01:36 Francesca    fingers crossed the mouse starts working
01:36 Francesca    hmm well I'll see what happens when I get ubuntu installed in the VM
01:35 eythian      it's where you don't need to capture the mouse, it all just works like you'd expect any window to work
01:35 eythian      A CD is just a convenient place to put a disk image
01:35 wahanui      seamless mode is probably really cool!
01:35 Francesca    seamless mode?
01:35 Francesca    ok
01:35 eythian      that's the same thing
01:35 Francesca    I downloaded a disk image to boot from
01:35 Francesca    right I don't have a cd
01:35 eythian      I'm just wondering - if you get it installed, it may then run in seamless mode which is better anyway.
01:34 eythian      the CD you can boot from and use it there.
01:34 mtompset     rangi: I figured out how to revoke the access token, but that doesn't sign out of Google.
01:34 Francesca    what's a live image?
01:33 Francesca    but using my arrow keys I managed to open the installer
01:33 Francesca    currently its set to try ubuntu
01:33 Francesca    Virtual box is installed
01:32 eythian      Have you installed it, or is this still the live image?
01:32 mtompset     out of curiousity...
01:32 Francesca    but that doesnt unfreeze the mouse
01:32 Francesca    To capture the mouse I can use left command
01:31 mtompset     Not sure what the meta key for MAc is.
01:31 mtompset     Oh... different meta key.
01:31 Francesca    and I'm trying to set up the vm to run ubuntu
01:30 Francesca    mac yosemite (10.10) I think
01:30 mtompset     (i.e. viritual box is running under...)
01:30 mtompset     What's your host OS?
01:30 Francesca    nope still not working
01:29 mtompset     Did you solve your problem, Francesca?
01:29 mtompset     And right ctrl is usually the toggle key for mouse capturing.
01:29 mtompset     Did you install the guest plugins?
01:13 rangi        that any help?
01:13 rangi        http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#keyb_mouse_normal
01:11 rangi        you should be able to hit tab and enter
01:11 Francesca    but when I try to hit install the mouse is frozen in place
01:11 rangi        theres some trick with virtualbox to make it grab the mouse then release it again
01:11 Francesca    it works outside of the install window
01:10 rangi        try clicking inside it
01:10 Francesca    hmm can't seem to move my mouse inside the vm
01:10 rangi        install yep
01:09 Francesca    hey rangi do I hit try ubuntu or install or ubuntu? its install right?
00:35 wizzyrea     yay?
00:35 rangi        they all make relevance work differntly or not at all
00:34 rangi        its all of them
00:34 eythian      it's autotruncation I think
00:33 wizzyrea     yes. exactly.
00:33 wahanui      something is sketchy
00:33 wizzyrea     or something.
00:33 wizzyrea     relevance is out the window?
00:33 wizzyrea     isn't there a bug with stemming/fuzzy
00:32 eythian      yep
00:32 wizzyrea     designated masochist *and* the zebra expert - something about these seems to go together.
00:31 rangi        2 secs
00:31 wizzyrea     yeahh
00:30 rangi        hmm in that case, all you can really do is switch on the authority see also thing
00:30 wizzyrea     hah
00:30 eythian      there
00:30 wahanui      dcook is, like, a zebra expert now
00:30 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui      dcook is, like, the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
00:30 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui      hmmm... dcook is the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
00:30 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:30 wahanui      dcook is probably the designated masochist
00:30 eythian      wahanui: dcook
00:30 eythian      fuzzy isn't the best solution to that. Some thesaurus type system would be, I don't know if zebra can do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it can.
00:30 wizzyrea     it's already on tho.
00:30 wizzyrea     yeah.
00:29 rangi        it might be ok for them, they only have a few thousand titles eh?
00:29 wizzyrea     heh
00:29 rangi        but it will mess up the rest of the searching
00:29 rangi        fuzzy would get that
00:28 wizzyrea     we are talking color/colour
00:19 rangi        yeah
00:19 eythian      fuzzy would probably get some, but it'd lower their rankings
00:19 rangi        it does, but it's a bit too overzealous
00:19 rangi        fuzzy
00:19 wizzyrea     no, not did you mean
00:17 wizzyrea     koha doesn't look for alternate spellings - or is that "did you mean"
00:03 mtompset     it wouldn't be hard to add, if there is.
00:03 mtompset     Is there an API way to log out of Google?
00:02 rangi        it'd be a good feature to have i think
00:01 rangi        and then a big note if you switch on the syspref or something
00:01 rangi        basically it should be a consistent thing
00:01 mtompset     Yes.
00:01 rangi        it's the OAuth one?
00:01 mtompset     Actually, this patch doesn't log out of Google.
00:01 rangi        yeah probably have to fail it in that case
00:00 mtompset     I got the second.
00:00 rangi        what does it do when they don't .. pick the first?